How to make realistic wargaming cliffs & outcrops (Pt2 - fixing the rockfaces)
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- čas přidán 13. 09. 2024
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We're stepping it up in realism with our latest hill tutorial by using rock face molds. In this second part, we'll look at fixing the rockfaces using Woodland Scenics molds.
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Mel really is the Bob Ross of terrain building - I could watch his channel for hours, even if I'm not working on a terrain project
i agree, except instead of "happy little accidents" his catchphrase is "Yea?"
nooo it's whatyamacall-it haha
I agree, he has a lot of the same teaching traits as bob ross, i was just cracking the joke because bob had "beat the devil out of it" and "they aren't mistakes, just happy little accidents" or some variation as his catchphrases or things he said a ton.
You are the only other crafter that I have seen that uses water to smooth out the filler. I painted walls for years. This is something I learned then. Great job!. I really like watching your builds. Keep them coming :)
+Max Havic Cheers, so how do the others smooth it?
Mel you REALLY are a GENIUS !!!!!! Love the way you work Buddy!!!!!!
+terrainaholic Cheers buddy :-D
I'm digging the follow along bits.
+5 in1 Glad you are matey
Good stuff,Mel. The transformation from cladding to filled and stippled is terrific.
+Elric Kinslayer Make a hell of a difference doesn't it :-D
Love how the Board is coming together Mel! Cant wait to see it done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+Exidous96 me neither mate!
Thank you for the generosity of sharing all this detail: a superb tutorial, it will become a classic text :) This board is looking absolutely splendid and, if I may say so, you've reached a new level in landscape construction: you deserve a large Bragdon mould as your next birthday present.
+Vikki Wilson oh, that would be nice, they do look good
thanks for all the vid Mel!! A plethora of ingenious information
Killing it. Just getting into legion and tabletop games. Perfect vid for endor ideas. Thanks for posting all your work.
same. I'm trying to build a Tatooine terrain and this seems perfect for some dry desert cliffs
Bob Ross of terrain building! 👏👏✊
i was just thinking that!
I love your videos. I will have to try to do this myself. and about you saying yeah all the time, it is just you being you and you shouldn't have to change to make anyone happy. keep up the great work!!!!!!
Mel, This tutorial along with the D-Day Board series have been particularly motivating. Not that the Battlefield Basics weren't equally so and of course I knew nothing before watching the Back to Basic s & Rock series. Thanks. I'm constructing a large 1\72 scale diorama (no wargaming) with my take of the Atlantic Wall on steroids. Starting at the beach and progressing up through trenches, tank & artillery encasements, bunkers & towers & more bunkers of different sorts all at a modest slope probably 20 degrees tops. I am contemplating putting in a sheet rock face similar but wider than say the one at Point Du Hoc. This would give me the altitude to put in my large naval gun emplacements. I also need altitude for the backside of the mountain. Thank you so much for everything. Regards
Sounds like an awesome project mate
The board is looking fantastic! Great work and helpful tips, as usual.
+drblasphemy thanks bud
Great stuff,Mel. Adding the molded pieces does create some irregular faces and mix things up. I like how you show ways of fitting the pieces in and blending them with the polystyrene. Looking forward to more progress on the build.
+Stronghold Crafter Kev It's a lovely effect mate, plenty more to come ;-)
Bloody hell, Mel's good, isn't he? Amazing tutorials - Thank you!
+GrumpyZhukov Thank you! ;-)
Brilliant Mel, really enjoying these build adventures!
+Brad Davidson Me too!
You definitely have come a long way from your early videos in techniques and materials! Been a subscriber for a long while.
It's been a hell of a journey mate
Looking good Mel, it's really coming to life and I can't wait to see the finished article.
Well done mate!
+jjab99 I'm a lot happier with it now mate :-)
At 12:05 when you started to put the grey goop in between the stone and the foam and put the wedge of foam in there in architecture that wedge is technically called a gallet and that technique called galletting. Galletting: The process in which the gallets or small splinters of stone are inserted in the joints of coarse masonry to protect the mortar joints.
They are stuck in while the mortar is wet
Thanks bud :-)
Great video , lots of info. transition pics really help show off the progression through the stages. Rock on.
+Steve Fletcher Cheers buddy, slowly getting better!
Really enjoying these in depth tutorials.
+Geeks40kchannel Glad you are mate
Absolutely amazing. You are such an inspiration!
thanks
This project is coming along great!
+Republiken It's getting there!
To answer your question, it's a caulking (call-king) gun. Greetings from North Carolina, USA, home to pigs, cows, and men who know how to jury-rig up some crazy contraptions OSHA would throw a fit over with a few strands of duct-tape and not much else.
+austin hall LOL, cheers buddy
Yeah, in America, there is a type of sealant used in building called caulk that we use those applicators for. Thus, caulking gun. Don't know if you chaps across the pond call it something else.
Awesome work will be definitely trying some of your technics
I'm planning on trying a similar build, however, I won't be using nice rocks designs because I can't afford molds and plaster at the moment. I'll try to use foam rock face techniques from other videos. Great tips!
Looks great as usual, great tips, if you're bristles on your brush are too soft you could always put some masking tape around them leaving some of the ends free as I do
You rock, and you're nice. Cheers, extremely helpful for a noob like myself.
I'm here to help bud
I Love the mug in the background at 10:30! Keep calm and eat Cupcakes!
Rule to live by
Awesome vid! I have learned so much! This is making me want to get some tools together and have a crack at this lot!
Do it!
Honestly I haven't got the infrastructure, privacy, space, or basic means to do it! When I eventually get my own place and god willing a spare room to use as a studio then yes I will do many things! My situation is not good for something as messy as terrain building! :D
LeSadW666
Use this time as research time and experiment refining your techniques on small pieces ;-)
Hi!! i thank you for all your awesome ideas and your tutorias because im starting making props for my D&D rol party.
I found that is useful to take the little pieces of durlok and use it to make solid floors like stone, but i dont know how to improve it to look better, the paint to make it look real or at least a little better that pure material.
Im working in a place with a LOT of material being throwing to the trash, and I try to use it for some useful proupose like my sessions or some for my friends.
Thank you, again!!
this is just what i needed mel, thanks mate
Hope it helps matey
hell yes, ive been to B&Q, and homebase, buying all the stuff you said, i've been out walking the dog getting stones and rocks for the bottom of my cliffs, i think im almost there for my army on parade board, when i do a video, ill link it for you, then you can give me some tips maybe
Crack on buddy!
2:21 (it's a caulking gun)awsome video I have an idea for something you could build you could build a German soldier firing a Panzerfaust which is a german rpg in WW2 at a M4 Sherman or firefly tank. Really cool videos
Love how energetic you are when speaking. Although I would say you use the word "yea" a bit too often
If I could, I would!
Caulking gun ;)
+captainkavi Cheers!
Nice job Mel!
+Tobyn Manthorpe thanks buddy
lol That girls bit at the end had me rolling. Great tutorials TTT. I really appreciate you taking the time to make them. :{J
Hope it helps you buddy
Sir its called a putty gun or adhesive gun. that for the video,you sir had a great talent ,thank you so much.
Caulking Gun.
More interesting stuff. Thank you.
+Euan Smith You know me, I like to share ;-)
like what u have done with cladden and loved the stipling effect. also I think your glue gun is leaking at nozzle rewatch vid and u will see a lump of grey glue coming out not from nozzle
+gmangaz2007 Yeah, I dropped it, I consider it a dual applicator ;-)
Buncha a-holes in the comment section that can't just enjoy the craft you present. They have to tell you things like "trim your nails" or whatever their hangup happens to be.....this is not a fashion/hygiene video and go watch fake television PROGRAMMING if you want the Kardashian experience. Great stuff once again, New sub....cheers.
You sound a lot like Neil Buchanan. Art Attack!
Had to stop the video to congratulate you on overcoming the severe sound issues :)
+Vikki Wilson you wait till the next update! ;-)
In america we call that a caulking gun, but considering diapers are nappies and cookies are biscuits are scones, I can't be sure if that translates :)
+Jonathan de Bruyn I think it's a caulking gun here as well mate
Great done!!
+Brabo Painter Cheers bud
Might give tile nippers a shot
I'll take a nose mate
Great stuff mate, not sure about the new Avatar though ha
+IDICBeer I figured it was more my style bud ;-)
Why not using abundant filler to attach the cast rocks to the p-styrene? you can immediately take off the excess
Great video as always! Common name for them is a goo gun..... Kind regards
Tim
+BR Blues Cheers buddy
I'm very eager to see how you transition from the rock cliff face to the ground/dirt and then grass at the top. I'll be posting my sundial on Terrainiacs shortly and I'd like to know how to avoid the harsh line of stone straight into the grass. If you see it you'll know what I mean.
Oh, its a caulk gun and yeah knapping is the right word for "shaping stone with a sharp blow" per Mr. Webster. Thanx for another great vid! :-)
+Bill D. in Iowa I've told you before, wire brush!
+Bill D. in Iowa czcams.com/video/r79HuWyU0ic/video.htmlm31s
+TheTerrainTutor Yeah, I tried that but it scuffed up and made the PVA whitish. I was being careful too. But I'm a little ham-fisted sometimes. If you do the wire brush thing on this build maybe you can re-visit that technique? I've watched the tutorial you did on it and it looks like it scuffed a little bit on you too. Maybe it needs going over with a matching green wash? Maybe I used too much PVA? I flocked it twice to get full coverage.
+Bill D. in Iowa I'll film it mate, it'll be out in two weeks ;-)
Awesome video. I'm planning to build some rock formation too. What exactly is the "filler" you use? Thank you for your video
This is Great Stuff!
+Geoffrey Wing thanks
+TheTerrainTutor what do you use as filler?
Geoffrey Wing
B&Q own brand mate
As Borat would say... "Very Nice Indeed!, Very Nice!"
+Von Erker I likes that
Brilliant!
+OttomanScribe thanks!
It's a caulking gun @2:20
What did you use as the base material? Doesn't need extra rocks, just carve it up? Or, when pouring rocks, use cement & sand, plaster is too fragile for my taste 😸
I see you got a pair of helping hands available.
+Kevin Fischer I'm not sure about helping lol
Looking good :)
+Norman Avery Cheers
What was the actual tube you used, Latex Caulking, Silicone or something else?
Grip adhesive bud
Never heard of that before, seems like it's the same as liquid nails/ construction adhesive in the US. Thanks for the response, your channel has been a wealth of information.
loking good daer fred flinstone like it part 3 ;;;;;]]]]
+redgreen09 A flintstones board would be epic mate
your a legend !
Cheers
very nice ... I can't say that enough :). is there a possibility of a materials estimate on a project such as this? I might consider doing a D day board sometime if it's not too $ on materials alone (funds are pretty tight). I realize there are outside costs like hotwire cutters/tools...I'm just wondering about materials mainly so I know how much I might need to buget for a project like this b4 I just start going to town lol :).
+Sgt Oddballz I included it in Sat's vid, think we're around £110 at this point mate
What are the pros and cons of using cork bark vs the molded plaster you use here?
Well as most of the cork bark producing trees burnt down in North Portugal , the pros of molded plaster is you can actually get it at the moment mate
Nice!
+Evolved Creations Cheers
Hello Mel I watch you for hours and enjoy your vids very much I want to join Patreon but have a problem picking my country it won't let me go past Andorea is there something wrong with Patreon.
What do you use for the filler? Is it just moulding clay mixed with some water?
+Keenan Thornton B&Q own brand ready made filler mate
Ok, I know this video is year old. But this may a basic questions, but what are these games that your playing on these awesome boards?
This board was for Bolt Action mate
wow
+Milhouse Van Kouten thxs
What is the cream coloured foam? And where do you buy it?
Same question for the black and white polystyrene?
Thanks
So to be difficult , I want to make a large modular jungle board for a game Im writing I could use this type of idea to make a sheer cliff face with a water fall in the middle of it ? if so any chance of a vid on making a waterfall ? or have you made one that I missed lol ?
+Andy Buckland Yep, no reason why not, soz bud, haven't done a waterfall video yet
No problem mate gonna be a while before I get that far along anyway, just planning ahead, and from what iv seen water falls ate not easy to get looking good
What kind of adhesive did you use? Any other alternative for that? Can i use hotglue for it?
Mastic gun there are loads of names for em haha
What is it that you are using for the 'filler'. I've looked at a few videos and I am not sure what it is. seems to have a long working time.
It call a cocking gun.
Sounds like Neil Buchanan
here in freedom land its a chaulking gun
it's the same here in dampland mate
well for once the king's English and Washingtongue are the same
I thought freedom-land was the Netherlands
MonkeyBoyDrinksVat69 no, Freedomland isnt invaded by Muslims, and doesnt throw people in jail for defending themselves from said Muslims
Are you saying it's a good thing to be attacking Muslims?
I assume said Muslims didn't have guns, etc. otherwise I assume they would be jailed and not the contrary, but indeed, that is iffy, but I have to tell you, the best countries in the world be something like Germany, EU in general, CA, UK, and then USA. (Give or take, from every listing I have ever seen, USA clearly still one of the best places in the world, but not the best whatsoever, this is clear across all fronts.)
Also, Brass, you are joking? Calling D.C freedom land or am I missing something? Half-irony, to say the least.
So obviously you don't paint up the backdrop then with a first an second coat. It's a silicon gun
caulking gun
Masking gun :)
lol caulk gun
STOP FUCKING BEGGING FOR PATREONS PLEEEEEASE
+DeepBass75 I only do it at the end of the vids, so it's it bothers you, just stop the vid when I start talking about comments and likes etc mate
Gonna be honest, I was absolutely bladdered and decided to go on CZcams that night, bad move :/.
I'm sorry mate you have a right to do whatever you do and I'd be lying if I said I didnt enjoy your videos, I do sneaky watch em :).
Apologies mate you didn't deserve an all caps comment like that.
Keep up the good work and you do what you do man.
DeepBass75
We've all done it, no worries bud ;-D
You copied Epicscenery builders
Who are they?
+TheTerrainTutor type their name in the search bar, but they are basicly the youtube channel that started making these specific videos.
why do you talk so much, I love the things you do but I would love to see u do much and talk less mite
caulking gun
+BIZKIT Cheers bud