I was just pondering a "glowing recesses" effect for some Infinity models and searched youtube with very low expectations. This video is great, and the technique is so accessible I could see it being used for all kinds of models in the future. Keep up the great work!
For slowing down the alcohol evaporation, there are other alcohols than the iso-propyl one. I would suggest iso-butanol, or more common iso-pentanol (also called iso amyl alcohol). The will have the same effect on the surface tension but as they have higher boiling point, they will evaporate slower. These should be available in very good decoration center as they are use to thin some paints and varnishes.
I got myself a long thin brush for panel lining at a local art shop. I was able to panel line with acrylic ink and flow improver without the dots with it easly enough.
As a chemist in a past life, I really enjoyed this more scientific/experimental approach where you detailed your thought process and hypotheses. Keep up the great educational content Vince!
I like the last one, too. The colors seem punchier, and the process seemed easy. I don't like oils because the clean up is nasty and smelly, and it takes forever to dry. Acrylics are water based and non-toxic, so being able to get the benefit of oil without the drawbacks is great. Thanks for this! :)
As the kids say, this is lit AF. It'd be really interesting to see an approach like this on something like a primarch to show some inner light radiating out.
Was very glad to see you go for alch and pigment. Had a feeling it would be the final choice too. The result seems more vivid, so the process and result seem better!
I already typed a comment going like ''well if ink and alcohol dries too fast try oils'' but of course, Vince was a step ahead of me and it came up in the video.
Glad to see some one else had the same idea! Tron is one of my favorites and I'm talking about the classic tron! All the energy on my tau does the same thing! I love this all the way great job vince!
This was so cool! I can't wait for more of the Tron themed Tau. It's difficult to find simple ways to paint cyberpunk themes and I feel like this is a great step forward. Hope when it comes to the tau infantry you'll have some cool techniques to show
Thank you for sharing your secrets. I did try the AK titanium white ink with lots of flow improver and airbrush thinner and I did have the capilary effect. Maybe I've been lucky and the kind of reccesses was good for it.
I use white oils often on my Tau. I don't have a tron style, but it's very nice for things like shield generators glow and on shield drones/etc. Then I'll use either regular acrylic, flou, or both. Mix in some airbrush with white ink, and you can get a great glow. Even though I've developed a steady enough hand. Id much rather have more wait time than cleanup time. I can just use that wait time for another project.
There's a CZcamsr Barbatosrex who has a neon panel liner range that might be worth a test as well. I have only seen him demonstrate it on white plastic.
The Barbaros Rex channel does tons of paint testing for model cars and Gundam kits. He has made a line of florescent panel liner paints under the Mecha Empire brand. He made them for Gundam kits, but it works perfectly for this application as well. That's how I made my brother's Kill Team Tau.
I've been looking for Tamiya White Panel Liner but can't seem to find it in stores or on their website, they do have white primer, though. I find it's too thick for panel lining.
Very cool, only wish this had come out a month or two earlier as I'm working through my own Tau army right now. Been using ink + a heavy dose of flow improver with decent results so far, looks like I'll try adding some alcohol to the mix for my next batch!
This is wonderful. I love it when people create these kinds of fun, unusual color combinations. I'm a kinesthetic/visual learner, and watching your videos to simply learn about painting is both helpful and fun - it takes me back to my childhood, watching my art professor Grandpa and my equally talented Nana paint and draw.
This video gives me a lot of ideas to try on upcoming projects…..thanks for demonstrating the three different approaches - I think I like your third approach best and will give it a whirl! Thanks again for your tutorials and time and effort - all appreciated greatly!
Vince, I’ve had a blast experimenting with this technique. I had to get brave to try something new, but your video gave me the confidence to try it. My skill and ability as a painter have increased a ton as a result. After using this technique to fill in the runes on Trugg with fluorescent pigment, I made a little slurry of the pigment, airbrush thinner, and a very small amount of white primer to add some easy (and beautiful) glow to Trugg. I tagged you on IG on my WIP shot, but I wanted to comment separately to thank you for your amazing advice and encouragement!
Once you showed the comparison, the 3rd version stuck out the most and was vivid. This was the perfect video for a question I was asking myself. Thanks for the information, and the last version it shall be for me.
I've been working on just this sort of thing! I have found that "inner glow" effects do great if you use extremely bright recesses, and then shading in backwards from what one would normally do. (light to dark as opposed to darks to highlights). As always, thanks Vince! You're a wonderful teacher, and I love watching science happen :3
I have been using alcohol as part of my painting process for years. But, never thought of adding it to inks, paints and pigments. Usually I self administer if 12 oz at a time.
I would have been tempted by using a white oil wash instead of the iso plus white ink mix. Would be a really easy cleanup. White oil paint tends to dry even slower than most other oil paints though, so that would be an downside. Edit: I jumped the gun, since you compared your first method with oils later... Also good to note is that the oil paint you used dries faster than most artist brands.
Since this video I started using Airbrush thinner to do panel-lining (because I believe it has alcohol in it) and it works very well! better than contrast medium I think.
mention of my favorite movie and my favoite 40k faction in the same title? how could I not click on that video?? excellent work, and cool idea...will have to give that a try!
Cool seeing multiple methods. I just started this same style on my Arc Troopers for SW Legion using the oil method. I used pure white to give it a bit more punch and then came in with AP speed paints. Got some cool effects. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
I let my Necrons sit unpainted for 5 years until someone pointed out that you could panel line with white oil paint. What's funny is that I used black oil paint to panel line on some of the same models that would have benefited from doing the same for the energy glow effects lol. I just did not make the connection because my sense of what oil paints could be used for on miniatures was very narrow.
Enjoyable video! A .05 or .005 rapidograph pen with white ink will also do the trick. If you use one that can be filled/refilled, you can also use it for the pink. Knew a fellow 35+ years ago that used to blackline EVERYTHING! Ancients, Renaissance, Thirty Years War, English Civil War, Napoleonic, Colonials, all the artillery, wagons and draft animals- EVERYTHING - all in 25mm - thousands of miniatures! As well as 1/1200th Age of Sail and WW2 Naval - all with a refillable rapidograph pen with permanent India ink.
4:15 Golden High Flow Fluorescents have been my favorite until Arnau Lazaro put me on Amsterdam Fluorescent inks during one of his workshops. I directly compared the two for opacity, brightness, tone etc and I have to give the nod to the Amsterdam inks. The Golden paints could very well be easier available in the US, but here in the Netherlands, it's the other way around (Royal Talens that makes the Amsterdam inks being a Dutch company).
Wow, what a coincidence, I was just struggling with the same problem and I'm even also using pink! Granted, it's on a very different miniature, but still... This really helps, thanks!
Very neat! GSW Pigments are a pain and a half to get, so I'm thinking I'm going to try laying down some high-flow fluo over an oil paint pinwash and see how that turns out. It might come out a little brighter with a snow white oil paint. Still plenty of room to experiment in this space. Still, I wonder if the effect of #3 would work with gold metal pigments. You could maybe get a bit of that 'porcelain broken and repaired with gold' look going on.
Mecha empire, he makes colored panel liners, and he got fluo once. And they are acrylic. He also has a CZcams channel, its Barbatos Rex and he got links for the vendors in the videos
I got good results in getting capillary action from white ink, by first painting on water, mopping that up, then painting on Liquitex Airbrush Medium, then mopping that up, then applying the white ink. Followed by colouring with Contrast paints is how I did the energy lines on my Necrons.
If this would be "guess the technique before watching the video", I'd wager a guess, that it's white oil paints to establish a crisp canvas in the panel line, then going over that with some artist's inks + flow improver. 😊
Thanks, Vince. Very helpful and timely video! I’ll try option 3, I think. I’m lucky enough to have a Rotring pen, so I’ll try that for drawing in the lines, rather than a brush, though.
Yep, in this case, I didn't want to gloss first, as I didn't want to change the satin finish of the black, getting it exactly back to soft satin is tough with varnish alone.
Liked and subbed. I've been working on my first tau army (first 40k army) and was also going with Tron style... only my method is taking me forever. I prime in black, base coat a layer of aquamarine, then manually paint each panel black twice over. The effect is clean but it takes so stinking long. I'm going to try this with my crisis suits.
I've been considering a similar scheme for my necrons, just in a florescent blue. The gauss rifle glow is a real pain to paint, and this may be just the trick I need for that. Thanks!
Awesome. I've been trying to work through something similiar, so it's exactly what I needed :) My wife makes resin tumblers, so I'm going to raid her supplies for Fluo pigments and alcohol inks :p
What a fantastic video!:) I think I'd personally go for white oil panel lining for ease of application/clean up and then the pigment and alcohol mix for the fluorescent step. I've seen a few artists like Juan Sanz use an airbrush with white oil washes very effectively to achieve a similar effect with more 'glow'. As an aside, I wonder if not using a pure white contributed to the less vibrant end result? Also, I wonder if it would pop even further with the selective addition of some more white at the end, maybe as a more thinned wash?
cool man, I just got some Tau to paint as well. I'm sticking with the style of scheme on the current boxes though, some weathered up, white plates. I have an idea for like a nightworld forest, themed base to contrast against the white of the armour, but then the black sections will be closer in tone for some unity, then with some luminous flora (kind of like pandora from avatar, at night, but just not quite as crazy as don't want to over power the minis) I do feel like this kind of base is gonna work though, and I might even start from a black basecoat, so everything is really dark, and then maybe try and do some OSL effects from the flora, so it really does look like it's a plan et with little to no sunlight. I did also think that it could be inside of a giant cave system, so it's more like it's just cut off from the majority of sunlight, but you can still explain highlights without having to get totally crazy with the paint scheme. I think if you really did a darkworld, that was only lit from the luminescant wildlife, the light sources on your mini and environment would be totally different to how you'd typically approach painting a mini. I think trying to tackle this would be a great project, but maybe a bit too advanced for me. I haven't done OSL before, so just want to start with something small. having some glow coming off my blue bushes will be a cool way to tie the minis into the base. not sure if it'll work, but gotta try it (I could just have the glow effecting the base as well though, it doesn't have to shine on the armour as well.
It is a very complicated scheme you're describing and pretty advanced OSL. That being said, it will be fun to do and I am confident you would learn a great deal doing the project.
@@VinceVenturella yeah, if I was to go full darkworld with only light from the luminous sources, but I don't think I'm going to go that far in to start with. just want to have a dark base with some bright plants on it. I think I would like to tackle the full idea one day though, once I learn to do OSL.
Odd about the drying time with the oil wash. I've never had to wait more than an hour. The mineral spirits evaporate fast taking most of the oil with it leaving mostly just the pigment to dry. Barbatos Rex just came out with a line of enamels for doing panel lines. Enamels might be another option.
Now that's some effective lining 😍Quick question, I've been painting for about a year and a half, various 3D printed minis from Etsy, all sorts of shapes and sizes, all fantasy based. I don't play Warhammer or anything like that. I'm just painting one-offs all off the time. Is there anything I could be missing (practice/experience/technique-wise), due to *not* painting armies? Thanks for everything btw, my painting has greatly accelerated due to your videos 😁
tried a similar method of an oil paint white panel line and an iso+pigment pink panel lining thinking I could just wipe off the pink on the raised bits nope. stained hard. next I'm gonna try making an oil wash out of the pigment since I know that comes off ok at least
How about using a tiny drop of dish washing soap in the water used to thin the paint with? That ought to break the surface tension too. I have a quite large Tau army. Yellow Ochre with black panel lining and I used a thin brush.
Hey Vince, I've been searching CZcams for awhile trying to find a video about painting glows in recesses. If you ever find the time, could you do one for eyes? Ex: painting a red glow affect in the eyes of a chainrasp for AoS. Since they don't have the "ball" of the eye, I haven't been able to do it with other eye glow tutorials.
Love it! I'll have to try out your method some time! Out of curiosity, if you wanted extra capillary action, why not gloss varnish the mini first and satin varnish when you're done painting?
Nice experiment; the 3rd method definetely looked the best. Just wondering if the fluorescent pigment's intensity would get knocked back down by a matt varnish or not.
God, the capillary action of the pink pigment and alcohol brush dipped in the recesses felt so satisfying to watch, amazing chemistry mixtures.
Also… Vince please say ‘giant robots’ again 😂
I was just pondering a "glowing recesses" effect for some Infinity models and searched youtube with very low expectations. This video is great, and the technique is so accessible I could see it being used for all kinds of models in the future. Keep up the great work!
Always happy to help. :)
Love video's where you compare different methods. Love the problem solving part of our hobby.
Glad you enjoy it! more to come for sure.
For slowing down the alcohol evaporation, there are other alcohols than the iso-propyl one.
I would suggest iso-butanol, or more common iso-pentanol (also called iso amyl alcohol).
The will have the same effect on the surface tension but as they have higher boiling point, they will evaporate slower.
These should be available in very good decoration center as they are use to thin some paints and varnishes.
Isopropyl alcohol might remove acrylic paint. Don't know if isoamyl alcohol would.
I got myself a long thin brush for panel lining at a local art shop. I was able to panel line with acrylic ink and flow improver without the dots with it easly enough.
As a chemist in a past life, I really enjoyed this more scientific/experimental approach where you detailed your thought process and hypotheses. Keep up the great educational content Vince!
I like the last one, too. The colors seem punchier, and the process seemed easy. I don't like oils because the clean up is nasty and smelly, and it takes forever to dry. Acrylics are water based and non-toxic, so being able to get the benefit of oil without the drawbacks is great. Thanks for this! :)
As the kids say, this is lit AF. It'd be really interesting to see an approach like this on something like a primarch to show some inner light radiating out.
I’m going to try this with a neon green to fill in the grouves of my seraphon weapons. Glowing cosmic Celestite weapons.
Thanks for showing 3 different options. Very nice comparison.
My pleasure!
Was very glad to see you go for alch and pigment. Had a feeling it would be the final choice too. The result seems more vivid, so the process and result seem better!
I already typed a comment going like ''well if ink and alcohol dries too fast try oils'' but of course, Vince was a step ahead of me and it came up in the video.
Some cyberpunk terrain would really look nice like this 👏
Glad to see some one else had the same idea! Tron is one of my favorites and I'm talking about the classic tron! All the energy on my tau does the same thing! I love this all the way great job vince!
Couldn't agree more!
This was so cool! I can't wait for more of the Tron themed Tau. It's difficult to find simple ways to paint cyberpunk themes and I feel like this is a great step forward. Hope when it comes to the tau infantry you'll have some cool techniques to show
This is such a great Idea. I will definetly try it when painting runes on Leviathan's librarian
Have fun!
Another great tutorial I didn't know I needed. Love the look of the bright panel lines.
AK Interactive has a new line of enamel washes for wargames and I think there’s some fluorescent colors in there. Would be worth a shot.
THANK YOU for making this video. i was having some issues with the Librarian from the Leviathan box and #3 did the trick!
Thank you for sharing your secrets. I did try the AK titanium white ink with lots of flow improver and airbrush thinner and I did have the capilary effect. Maybe I've been lucky and the kind of reccesses was good for it.
Just in time for my cyberpunk crew for Stargrave and Majestic 13!
This was so cool! Thank you for helping us cheat!
I use white oils often on my Tau. I don't have a tron style, but it's very nice for things like shield generators glow and on shield drones/etc. Then I'll use either regular acrylic, flou, or both. Mix in some airbrush with white ink, and you can get a great glow.
Even though I've developed a steady enough hand. Id much rather have more wait time than cleanup time. I can just use that wait time for another project.
Awesome tips and tricks, thanks for sharing👍🏻😁
looking good vince!
them minis look sharp too
Love it! Saving this for the future.
There's a CZcamsr Barbatosrex who has a neon panel liner range that might be worth a test as well. I have only seen him demonstrate it on white plastic.
The Barbaros Rex channel does tons of paint testing for model cars and Gundam kits. He has made a line of florescent panel liner paints under the Mecha Empire brand. He made them for Gundam kits, but it works perfectly for this application as well. That's how I made my brother's Kill Team Tau.
I’ve done something similar with Necrons. Tamiya actually offers a white panel liner
I've been looking for Tamiya White Panel Liner but can't seem to find it in stores or on their website, they do have white primer, though. I find it's too thick for panel lining.
@@thevuntzer I’ve also used thinned white oil paint. It works just as well, and won’t react with acrylic
Very cool, only wish this had come out a month or two earlier as I'm working through my own Tau army right now. Been using ink + a heavy dose of flow improver with decent results so far, looks like I'll try adding some alcohol to the mix for my next batch!
This is wonderful. I love it when people create these kinds of fun, unusual color combinations.
I'm a kinesthetic/visual learner, and watching your videos to simply learn about painting is both helpful and fun - it takes me back to my childhood, watching my art professor Grandpa and my equally talented Nana paint and draw.
Thank you so much!
@@VinceVenturella You're very welcome!
this video needs to let me give it more than 1 like. What an amazing discovery! Thanks for sharing and explaining!
This video gives me a lot of ideas to try on upcoming projects…..thanks for demonstrating the three different approaches - I think I like your third approach best and will give it a whirl! Thanks again for your tutorials and time and effort - all appreciated greatly!
Glad it was helpful!
Man, you can really tell the difference in the vibrancy with number 3. Great video as always Vince
Vince, I’ve had a blast experimenting with this technique. I had to get brave to try something new, but your video gave me the confidence to try it. My skill and ability as a painter have increased a ton as a result. After using this technique to fill in the runes on Trugg with fluorescent pigment, I made a little slurry of the pigment, airbrush thinner, and a very small amount of white primer to add some easy (and beautiful) glow to Trugg. I tagged you on IG on my WIP shot, but I wanted to comment separately to thank you for your amazing advice and encouragement!
So happy to have this video. I've had an extremely similar idea for some Battletech Mechs but zero idea how to do it. This is going to help so much.
I just finished some Tau! This is just in time
Once you showed the comparison, the 3rd version stuck out the most and was vivid. This was the perfect video for a question I was asking myself. Thanks for the information, and the last version it shall be for me.
Glad it was helpful!
I'll use this for glowing runes and such. Thanks for trying different methods!
I've been working on just this sort of thing! I have found that "inner glow" effects do great if you use extremely bright recesses, and then shading in backwards from what one would normally do. (light to dark as opposed to darks to highlights).
As always, thanks Vince! You're a wonderful teacher, and I love watching science happen :3
Massive agree on the Golden High Flow Florescent Pink. Using it on my synthwave Tau.
I have been using alcohol as part of my painting process for years. But, never thought of adding it to inks, paints and pigments. Usually I self administer if 12 oz at a time.
I would have been tempted by using a white oil wash instead of the iso plus white ink mix. Would be a really easy cleanup. White oil paint tends to dry even slower than most other oil paints though, so that would be an downside.
Edit: I jumped the gun, since you compared your first method with oils later... Also good to note is that the oil paint you used dries faster than most artist brands.
Good stuff Vince!!
Thank you Vince, I've been trying to do this effect on my Eldar, and this is just what I needed!
Learned something again.
These are all amazing! Great look! A whole army would be stunning on the game board
Since this video I started using Airbrush thinner to do panel-lining (because I believe it has alcohol in it) and it works very well! better than contrast medium I think.
Love me some robits too, great work Vince
mention of my favorite movie and my favoite 40k faction in the same title? how could I not click on that video?? excellent work, and cool idea...will have to give that a try!
Cool seeing multiple methods. I just started this same style on my Arc Troopers for SW Legion using the oil method. I used pure white to give it a bit more punch and then came in with AP speed paints. Got some cool effects. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
I haven’t watched a vid in a while. You’re looking very healthy at the start!
Thanks! Been working hard on it. :) (And also, welcome back!)
That was awesome!! Makes me wonder where else it could be useful to make a good, bright recess. Would certainly be something fun to play with!
Welcome to the Tau family buddy! Learning how to make recesses bright, is super tough, thank you for the tutorial!
Happy to help! Hope you're doing well sir and look forward to catching up at NOVA.
YEEESSS absolute banger!
Vincey V bringing the gems as always!!! I can see so many other applications to apply this to!
Hmm perfect timing as I do some fluorescent trim and panel lines on my chaos knights
yess ive been waiting for this one (I also have tron tau but orange/black)
I let my Necrons sit unpainted for 5 years until someone pointed out that you could panel line with white oil paint. What's funny is that I used black oil paint to panel line on some of the same models that would have benefited from doing the same for the energy glow effects lol. I just did not make the connection because my sense of what oil paints could be used for on miniatures was very narrow.
Enjoyable video!
A .05 or .005 rapidograph pen with white ink will also do the trick. If you use one that can be filled/refilled, you can also use it for the pink. Knew a fellow 35+ years ago that used to blackline EVERYTHING! Ancients, Renaissance, Thirty Years War, English Civil War, Napoleonic, Colonials, all the artillery, wagons and draft animals- EVERYTHING - all in 25mm - thousands of miniatures! As well as 1/1200th Age of Sail and WW2 Naval - all with a refillable rapidograph pen with permanent India ink.
I've never been a first comment.....is this how it feels? Great video Vince as always!
Cool. I'm planning a Tau army soon. Probably not this scheme (wanting a very RoboTech inspired force), but can see others things to try this with.
Awesome video, Vince! Really loved the effect of the alcohol+pigment, can't wait to give it a try myself!
Have fun!
4:15 Golden High Flow Fluorescents have been my favorite until Arnau Lazaro put me on Amsterdam Fluorescent inks during one of his workshops. I directly compared the two for opacity, brightness, tone etc and I have to give the nod to the Amsterdam inks. The Golden paints could very well be easier available in the US, but here in the Netherlands, it's the other way around (Royal Talens that makes the Amsterdam inks being a Dutch company).
Yeah, harder to get here.
Was planning to try this on some Infinity minis, glad to see it really works!
Wow, what a coincidence, I was just struggling with the same problem and I'm even also using pink! Granted, it's on a very different miniature, but still... This really helps, thanks!
Very neat! GSW Pigments are a pain and a half to get, so I'm thinking I'm going to try laying down some high-flow fluo over an oil paint pinwash and see how that turns out. It might come out a little brighter with a snow white oil paint. Still plenty of room to experiment in this space.
Still, I wonder if the effect of #3 would work with gold metal pigments. You could maybe get a bit of that 'porcelain broken and repaired with gold' look going on.
Awesome as usual, Vince! Gonna have to try this on some plasma weapons.
Really love this video. Would like to use this on T'au stealth suits.
Go for it! I am about to do the same as I am typing this. :)
Mecha empire, he makes colored panel liners, and he got fluo once. And they are acrylic.
He also has a CZcams channel, its Barbatos Rex and he got links for the vendors in the videos
I got good results in getting capillary action from white ink, by first painting on water, mopping that up, then painting on Liquitex Airbrush Medium, then mopping that up, then applying the white ink. Followed by colouring with Contrast paints is how I did the energy lines on my Necrons.
I think this method would be great for my Leviathan Terminator Librarian. Thanks Vince
If this would be "guess the technique before watching the video", I'd wager a guess, that it's white oil paints to establish a crisp canvas in the panel line, then going over that with some artist's inks + flow improver. 😊
Thanks, Vince. Very helpful and timely video! I’ll try option 3, I think. I’m lucky enough to have a Rotring pen, so I’ll try that for drawing in the lines, rather than a brush, though.
Great video and awesome to watch, I can imagine a few younger viewers asking what's Tron? Lol
Right?!
A new way to blackline!
I’ve been using SMS fluro green lacquer paint on necrons and I’m loving it but was struggling with getting the white down so this is perfect
Would be very curious to test out method number 3 using Vallejo Gloss Primer🤔 just to conserve time for a whole army.
you can improve the capillary action bij first putting on a layer of gloss coat. afterwards put on a coat of matt varnish
Yep, in this case, I didn't want to gloss first, as I didn't want to change the satin finish of the black, getting it exactly back to soft satin is tough with varnish alone.
Liked and subbed. I've been working on my first tau army (first 40k army) and was also going with Tron style... only my method is taking me forever. I prime in black, base coat a layer of aquamarine, then manually paint each panel black twice over. The effect is clean but it takes so stinking long. I'm going to try this with my crisis suits.
Awesome! Glad to have you along on the hobby journey!
I've been considering a similar scheme for my necrons, just in a florescent blue. The gauss rifle glow is a real pain to paint, and this may be just the trick I need for that. Thanks!
Good one mate
Thanks 👍
Awesome. I've been trying to work through something similiar, so it's exactly what I needed :)
My wife makes resin tumblers, so I'm going to raid her supplies for Fluo pigments and alcohol inks :p
I do this with my eldar grav tanks using cadmium orange.
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Very cool! Maybe need to revisit some Tau
What a fantastic video!:) I think I'd personally go for white oil panel lining for ease of application/clean up and then the pigment and alcohol mix for the fluorescent step. I've seen a few artists like Juan Sanz use an airbrush with white oil washes very effectively to achieve a similar effect with more 'glow'. As an aside, I wonder if not using a pure white contributed to the less vibrant end result? Also, I wonder if it would pop even further with the selective addition of some more white at the end, maybe as a more thinned wash?
I think there is definitely even more experimenting that could be done. :)
Who doesn't love giant robuts?
cool man, I just got some Tau to paint as well. I'm sticking with the style of scheme on the current boxes though, some weathered up, white plates. I have an idea for like a nightworld forest, themed base to contrast against the white of the armour, but then the black sections will be closer in tone for some unity, then with some luminous flora (kind of like pandora from avatar, at night, but just not quite as crazy as don't want to over power the minis)
I do feel like this kind of base is gonna work though, and I might even start from a black basecoat, so everything is really dark, and then maybe try and do some OSL effects from the flora, so it really does look like it's a plan et with little to no sunlight.
I did also think that it could be inside of a giant cave system, so it's more like it's just cut off from the majority of sunlight, but you can still explain highlights without having to get totally crazy with the paint scheme.
I think if you really did a darkworld, that was only lit from the luminescant wildlife, the light sources on your mini and environment would be totally different to how you'd typically approach painting a mini.
I think trying to tackle this would be a great project, but maybe a bit too advanced for me. I haven't done OSL before, so just want to start with something small. having some glow coming off my blue bushes will be a cool way to tie the minis into the base. not sure if it'll work, but gotta try it (I could just have the glow effecting the base as well though, it doesn't have to shine on the armour as well.
It is a very complicated scheme you're describing and pretty advanced OSL. That being said, it will be fun to do and I am confident you would learn a great deal doing the project.
@@VinceVenturella yeah, if I was to go full darkworld with only light from the luminous sources, but I don't think I'm going to go that far in to start with.
just want to have a dark base with some bright plants on it.
I think I would like to tackle the full idea one day though, once I learn to do OSL.
Odd about the drying time with the oil wash. I've never had to wait more than an hour. The mineral spirits evaporate fast taking most of the oil with it leaving mostly just the pigment to dry.
Barbatos Rex just came out with a line of enamels for doing panel lines. Enamels might be another option.
Damn.. i wish i saw this before painting 2k points of Tau
1) that is the correct and morally right way to pronounce robot
2) you say Tron, but those look like Bret Hart Tau
I wonder how the liquid pigment from AK would work. Maybe that's another way to panel line lighter colors.
Now that's some effective lining 😍Quick question, I've been painting for about a year and a half, various 3D printed minis from Etsy, all sorts of shapes and sizes, all fantasy based.
I don't play Warhammer or anything like that. I'm just painting one-offs all off the time. Is there anything I could be missing (practice/experience/technique-wise), due to *not* painting armies? Thanks for everything btw, my painting has greatly accelerated due to your videos 😁
Army painting can help build up endurance, but no, no reason you couldn't gain the same skillson single figures.
tried a similar method of an oil paint white panel line and an iso+pigment pink panel lining thinking I could just wipe off the pink on the raised bits
nope. stained hard. next I'm gonna try making an oil wash out of the pigment since I know that comes off ok at least
How about using a tiny drop of dish washing soap in the water used to thin the paint with? That ought to break the surface tension too. I have a quite large Tau army. Yellow Ochre with black panel lining and I used a thin brush.
That's effectively what the flow improver is, it's all a surfactant. :)
Hey Vince, I've been searching CZcams for awhile trying to find a video about painting glows in recesses. If you ever find the time, could you do one for eyes? Ex: painting a red glow affect in the eyes of a chainrasp for AoS. Since they don't have the "ball" of the eye, I haven't been able to do it with other eye glow tutorials.
Love it! I'll have to try out your method some time! Out of curiosity, if you wanted extra capillary action, why not gloss varnish the mini first and satin varnish when you're done painting?
I was aiming at the specific slight satin finish and I don't think I would have been able to get it back to exactly where I wanted. :)
Nice experiment; the 3rd method definetely looked the best. Just wondering if the fluorescent pigment's intensity would get knocked back down by a matt varnish or not.
I think it would a little, but I really didn't want to change the slight satin on the black.