Does the 14 inch M3 Max MacBook Pro have a problem??
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The new M3 Max MacBook Pros are here and they pack a TON of power and performance! But with dramatic size differences between the batteries, cooling solutions, and displays of the 14 and 16 inch MacBook Pro, how much of an impact will that make on performance? In today's 14 vs 16 inch MacBook Pro comparison benchmark test, we'll find out!
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I think the sweet spot might be grabbing the 30 core M3 Max 14"... What do you think? You can already find them for $200 with Best Buy, not bad! howl.me/ck1AfejUeSM (affiliate link)
I think you mean $200 off, not $200 total.
Have you tested the 30 core version? Is the fan noise and throttling significantly less? Do they offset the performance gains of the 40 core?
Yup. 14/30
$200 is a steal wow
And if you need more than 64 GB of RAM, the 14-core CPU / 30-core GPU M3 Max with 96 GB is just $100 more than the 16-core CPU / 40-core GPU M3 Max with 64 GB.
Apple's memory and storage prices are literally criminal.
Then don’t buy one. They aren’t price gouging something that you need to survive like corporations that produce food.
Look I get that 8GB of Ram in a $1,600 pro laptop is utterly ridiculous, but… we had this problem for almost 10 years! Why are people complaining just now?
I agree, and it's the people who literally defend this who are in part to blame for why Apple carry on doing it. No point having a quality product on the outside if it's half baked on the inside really. Nothing with a Pro name on the outside of the box should have entry level storage and memory from a decade ago, and that's before you even get to the insane price tags nowadays on the Apple store.
@@TacosCannedwe’ve been complaining ever since.
It's absolutely insane that they still get away with those prices
As someone who travels for months at a time with carry-on only bags, every inch of packing space matters. I feel the 14in is plenty, and with my primary focus being FCP, I don't have any concerns versus the 16in. Thanks for the comparison!
for me, the extra screen estate as a second monitor for holding palettes in adobe apps, and the better thermals in summer (always a killer where I live) are worth the extra bucks for the 16. just wish i could say the same for the obligatory ram and storage upgrades!
Fantastic review, this was a huge help in picking. Going with the 14" for my use case.
nice video man was considering buying a 14 inch over the 16 because it was a little big and now this just confirms it.
16” MBP made me pissed lugging it around internationally. I’m so happy to be back on a 14” for when I’m not at my desk. My old 16” M2 Max is now a “desktop” and won’t move.
Impressive series of tests!👏
great video man, really helped me solidify my decision in the 14 inch. The portability is worth it. My main use case will just be final cut pro. Thanks for making this video fr fr.
Thank you so much for these tests!
As a commercial video editor/motion designer who went from a 15" to 14" MBP, the portability of the 14" is so noticeable and IMO unbeatable. If you're serious about doing client work for graphics, you'd best use an external monitor regardless. And you'd eventually invest in a dedicated studio setup with more horsepower.
Not even in the market to replace my M1 Pro 16 inch. I just love your videos.
I imagine that the benchmark, fan noise, and thermal differences between the 14 inch and 16 inch MB Pros will be less for the 30 core Max and certainly the Pro. Separately, I fired up my 2018 15 inch MB Pro with its depleted battery to evaluate notebook computer size. Having the larger screen and equally the larger trackpad when compared to my wife's 13 inch M1 MB Air machine makes the larger machine such a pleasure to use when situated, not constrained by a tight work area, and not moving the computer around often when situated. However, it is about being able to freely move the computer throughout the day not only from place to place but in place without noticing it that is a major draw of the 14 inch. I would much more likely want to bring the 13 inch MB Air with me and use it rather than the larger 15 inch MB Pro. My thoughts right now are to wait for the M3 Mac Studio or possibly the M3 Mac Mini since most of what I do is at the desk and then possibly complementing it with a forthcoming M3 based iPad Pro or iPad air.
Thanks for the video. Help to convince me pulling trigger for the 16” MBP M3 Pro 🎉
The 16” comes with a couple of bonuses: the display is larger, you will get more of that beautiful mini led display, the bezels look slimmer due to the ratios, the notch looks smaller for the same reason. The 16” gets a larger trackpad which is more convenient to use and the speakers are better giving richer sound. As far as battery life the 16” gets three hours more in terms of web browsing, and also gets a more powerful 140 watt power supply.
Are you recommended getting the 16 MacBook Pro M3 Pro with 512GB 18 Ram i guess this is the base model 16 inch
As someone who went from 16 inch to 14 inch for work, this video misses the biggest difference of all between the two machines. Performance for my job has been great, but the devices are just so different based on how big the 16 inch model is. It's thicker, heavier, taller. The screen and trackpad and speakers are all the best on any portable device. It's hard to communicate through pictures or video, but the experience of using them is a way bigger difference than some mild benchmark differences.
He literally talked about just that at the end of the video. You just didn’t watch until the end.
This is the best post. All the youtube channels do this. I even think the 15” air feels FAR more portable than the 14”. The 16” is basically an atx full tower in comparison.
I’m also switching from 16 to 14. The 16 is just way too heavy and bulky
I have a 14” MBP but would love to move to the 16”!
I think the assumption is that this (and other) videos is trying to isolate purely on performance and battery life. Think it's clear that what size fits your lifestyle best between a 14" or 16" should be one of the most important factors one considers when deciding between the two. That being said, you're right, the 16" pro is hefty - a big consideration. I'm happy w/ my 2021 14" M1 Pro.
It's interesting that unlike the M1 Max and M2 Max, the M3 Max GPU isn't power limited in the 14" this time, meaning the only performance differences come from the thermals
It actually does become power limited only as a result of being thermals limited. So it's essentially the same thing. 16 has far more powerful cooling.
@@andreyyankovsky1090 indeed you're right. Personally I would rather have a powerful but portable M3 Max 14" and use it on a cooling stand when at home which allows me to reach continuous desktop performance of M1 Ultra.
@@hardaqa I wonder how much of a difference a cooling stand makes. That would be an interesting experiment.
@@andreyyankovsky1090 Well, yeah, but the two sizes are at least identical in performance for short bursts
Somebody should try to liquid metal the 14
@lukemiani One thing that I consistently see regarding comparison between the 14in and the 16in or base M3Max vs Top M3Max are rendering benchmark tests of small projects. I believe the disparity of performance of the models will show better if a more intense tasks were involved. For example, 1 hour long timeline of 5k, 6k, or 8k footage and effects. Also how do they handle ProRes Raw, BRaw, or RedCode Raw. Since the Max chips M1, M2, M3 all have the same amount of encoders/decoders a test like what I expressed should expose what all of those GPU cores are actually doing.
Will a cooling pad help to bring the 14" macbook pro to be on par with the 16"? If this helps, then it's probably good to have a 14" for the portability sake.
Just a shout out to how perfectly the light reflects on the Space Black wrist rest to blend into the same colour of the table
I retire the M3 Pro without take it home. Got the base M3 Max. can't be more happy than that. Thank you all for the advise.
Nice video and thanks. Looking at the heatsink on a disassembly of the 14', will you consider using some heatsink tape/foam..etc to try and limit the throttling ?
Luke, you should also add the Logic Pro benchmark. That test will give the CPU performance difference in a much more real way. And also we audio guys feel left out! 😊
Yep, I want to know if the fan noise ramps up on the 14" with an 'average' project...say 40 - 60 VI's, usual battery of mix plugs etc
Really curious whether there's a meaningful difference in thermal performance (and to a lesser extent battery) between the binned & unbinned M3 Max in the 14" MBP.
That secret $2999 M3 Max 14" MBP seems like a compelling value for software development, where you don't need a lot of SSD space.
which one is the $2,999 config?
Im guessing Max 30 core with 36GB and 512GB @@BrendenBishop
Select the M3 Pro 512GB first, then just upgrade the chip and it ens up at 2999.
here is a binned 14" M3 Max test. 14 cpu 30 gpu czcams.com/video/dvdM84x98Ic/video.html
The 16” just makes me feel much more focused on my work. When travelling for a few weeks for work I don’t feel as productive with the 14” and subsequently bought an identically spec’d 16” despite the 14” being much better for weight and café work.
Same.
@@lameloball7644 and yours feels unnecessary
@@lameloball7644it doesn’t
Luke, I have an idea that might interest you. In light of Apple filming their entire max event on iphone 15 pro max, what if you tried something similar just as a fun video about something maybe retro? I think they used black magic design pro camera app, and leveraged the apple logo prores support for color grading and dynamic range. just to see how far you can stretch the legs of the format and the hardware? might be fun
Hey Luke could you please test if the MacBook Pro 14” with M3 Max have also thermal issues when using low power mode. And will it be worth over the M3 Pro.
Got the 30GPU one, want to see those tests before I decide on opting for the 16 or even just getting a lower spec regular pro 14 with 32GB.
I’m still wondering if the base level max would fare better in the battery and thermal throttling tests with the 14” - vs the 14 max 16/40. Is it a sweet spot for the 14” or is the pro a better option?
Same confusing.... Did you get answer?
I like the 14" size and while this M3 Max is tempting, I really cannot complain about the performance of my 14" non-binned M1 Pro (not MAX) w 32 GB RAM from 2021. It still performs awesome. Something that always holds me back from updating is the cost of Apple SSD storage. While nVME storage is coming down in price, it is not on Apple products. I'll stick with what I have for a while.
Same here. I bought my 10 core M1 Pro 14" with 32GB RAM at launch two years ago and it's held up excellent. I'll definitely be keeping it a while longer.
M1 Pro is excellent and many overlook this great machine because it’s older.
How much is apple offering you on trade in? Getting 1055 on my non binned m1 pro 16 gb ram
@@psysword Is your M1 Pro is stuttering and crashing with your workflows because it can’t handle them?
@@psysword Out of curiosity, I looked and was offered 1055 as well for my non-binned M1 Pro w 32GB RAM. Not tempting me at all. The M1 Pro is not even broke in yet. Heck, my daughters M1 Air is pretty solid still as well for her student needs.
One day I'll have that 14 inch MBP as my sweet spot for the on the go use. 16 inch is a monster but it stays on my desk. It's a giant powerhouse but that's just it.
Most people don't do video editing on their computers. I do, but not all the time. They use it for running office software. People make a deal over benchmark numbers on a computer.
Can you do this with the base model m3 max? I think that would solve some of the heating issues
A pretty decent review! Thank you Luke, I think you managed to convince me on the 14"
Returned the 14" m3 max 16/30 model after experiencing thermal and fan noise for some of my video editing tasks and even blender rendering. Will look at a 16" down the road.
Do you mean 16/40 or 14/30?
Nice confusion 😕
I'd like to see a similar comparison between a Mac Mini and a Studio. I bought my M1 Studio mostly because my Intel Mac Mini all too often was slowed down when the temps went up.
Oh, and what's them name of this temp indicator app again?
Thank you for this! Please can you make 16" M2 Pro vs 16" M3 Pro? (Both 12core)
Do you have a google drive with all the results of your tests across multiple machines?
Like a place where I can see what the m3 the m3 pro m3 max did in blender, passmark, etc and at what temps and stuff?
will apple try to do a update to control the high temps on the 14 inch
Based on the differences being minor even in the worst cases. It would be fair to say a cooling pad would resolve any performance difference?
Got the 40 core, I max out the gpu pretty regularly with ray tracing, and tbh even the M3 Max 40 core is not really enough for my work, but it's definitely good enough for a year or two.
I have an expensive MBP and have no plans to replace it soon. Yet, I enjoy watching these videos. Is there something wrong with me? Is there a cure?
That BenQ monitor looks like its the same panel as my ASUS ProArt PA279CV I've had for 2.5~ years now. Appears nearly identical, save for the stand and some different USB port routings. Big if true.
16inch - max runs quiet so far. I do video editing, color grading, (DaVinci) music production with multiple plugins (arturia , sonible) in ableton and logic, never throttled neither heard the fans yet. hope that helps folks.
Hi Luke, can you please make a video comparing M1 Max vs M3 Pro? Thanks!
The M3 max 14/30 with 36 GB memory 14 inch does not have thermal issues. I own one and it is great to carry around with you and get work done.
My m3 max 14 inch 128 gig has been rocking just fine even under high load.
do you use Da vinci, premiere pro on it ?
So no crazy thermals?
Can we please get an M2 Air 13 and 15 ich vs the baseline M3. I want to know your opinion on weather the larger screen on the air is worth it over the baseline M3.
Luke, I had the MacBook Air M2 but I am getting into more video editing and I went with the 16 inch MacBook Pro with the M3 Pro, For what I do it is absolutely amazing and quiet. My windows gaming laptop is so loud when doing. anything.
How is the battery-life-difference between the M3 Pro and M3 Max with usual - mixed usage?
Would love to see the binned M3 Max on the 14", maybe its a much better fit for the thermal capacity of the smaller mac
Same. I have a 16/40 with 64GB on order but now I'm wondering if I should have gone for the 14/30 with 36GB.
Ordered the exact same spec ... hope it will be ok ;)@@bladerealm124
@@bladerealm124 I have the 16/40 64GB and it's a beast!
here is a binned 14" M3 Max test. 14 cpu 30 gpu czcams.com/video/dvdM84x98Ic/video.html
Would be awesome if you covered fan noise as well, as that seems to be the primary concern for folks@@LucasCreativeTech
I might be the only one... but 16" all the way! I love my 16" M1 Pro especially for longer work session when I do not have the opportunity to plug it into external monitor.
Yes, the 16” is a better option.
Is there any chance you can do a thermal paste replacement for any of the 14 or 16 since M1? Doesn't matter which one. I find it interesting and weird that no one has a single step by step video for this...
I love the form factor of the 14 (typing on the binned 14 now, as I am giving it a trial run), but I wonder what could have been if they had kept it the same thickness as the 16. Would the thermals have been significantly better? I do love the form factor, but at this price, it's not worth sacrificing performance.
Also, I have loved the 16-inch MacBook Pro for a couple of years due to the better speakers when not using headphones and more screen real estate, but it just doesn't run Windows on Parallels as snappily as I need. So, I am definitely staying with the MacBook Pro M3 Max on either the 16-inch or 14-inch model.
I will say that my binned 14 gets pretty hot while running Windows on Parallels on the 14, even though it is the 30 core. I am running the LG monitor with the 5k panel used on the 27" studio display along with another 1080P side monitor.
The same as on The M1 and the M2. They haven’t fixed the constraints of a smaller chassis and cooling system with the same chipset. Let’s be honest though most of the time on real world use these 14 inch MacBooks will be bloody brilliant.
Just bought new 14'' m3 max 36/1tb for $2600 (sale price+bank's cashback). An only drawback was a thought that 16'' suits my work better (video edit) but just as I guessed -when in office I use external monitor, when in trips would have to get used to it ^) but then it's when the portability kicks in and not that outweighs but contributes to the balance against benefits of 16'' inch. Your comparison is a soothing balm to my wound as frankly wished I bought 16'' (I have not touched it yet in transit but really hope I won't regret the purchase).
How it going now
@@boganx1291 just got it. Frankly was piled with various chores. The MacBook is still in the box unopened. I still can't believe I got it at such a bargain price. I checked the box looks like it wad made for India..:) I guess that is the low price market.
@@xtAqHNpFg 14 inch base 36 gb and 48 gb top really confusing. As 3D artist it's really confusing as I don't want 16 inch as it is really big for me
Do the differences in temperature affect longevity of the laptop? Does it affect CPU thermal glue melting over time? Kind of why I switched away from laptops and only use a desktop Mac Studio. More adequate room for cooling. Mac Pro we used to have NEVER got that hot.
It does. Those laptops is not meant to be used in such a scenarios. I mean max in an option if you have plan tu use this laptop for 5 years or more, in short for future proofing not for ultimate performance
Peak core temperature is not going to affect anything but the CPU itself, which is rated to run at that temperature. A heatsink will spread the heat output out evenly, meaning that total power draw ultimately determines how much heat the rest of the system experiences. That's to say, you could have a CPU at 90C drawing 50 watts, or you could have a CPU at 105C drawing 25 watts, and the one drawing 50 watts is generating twice as much heat. I think lot of reviewers don't really fully seem to comprehend this. Temperature is not the same thing as heat. You can pass your finger quickly through a lit flame, which is 600 C, and experience no real damage. But you can get burns if you submerge in 50 C water. Ultimately, how much heat your system produces is a simple matter of how much power it uses. It's simple thermodynamics. I personally believe that most of these newer Macs will have a very long life thermally speaking because ultimately their power draw is very low, meaning even if their core temps might be high at times, especially at bursts, the system is not generating much heat over long periods of time. Low core temps are so overrated, IMO.
Heat can destroy the electronic materials in mac logic board.
Apple is happy if the board reach 100 celsius. Users are so dumb that they think that if the fans dont spin is because there s no heat😅
@@ashley-paulno. Its not that way 90 celsius is hot everywhere. Do you think the cpu will hit 90 celsius by a split sec?
@@ashley-paulfunny how you defend all apple shortcomings. Google M1 fried logic board , Do you think it was bad luck?
Smth looks wrong with the battery test results: the battery in 14 is significantly lower in capacity. Max tech got quite different results in their test for the reference.
I just noticed this too. Was very surprised by this. Not sure which channel to trust on this one.
Yeah, probably due to max power vs auto power mode. I think testing the M3 Max 16c on the 14" at full load is a bad benchmark.
Silly question 🤔: but the fans kick in/higher temperature in the 14inch is because of those """limited""" specs? if you upgrade the ram with 64 or even 128gb, would you have the same issue? 🤔
Even tho, if we consider those specs of the model you're using and more importantly the price of that machine, you shouldn't have any issues in the first place and everything should run smoothly 99,97% of the time!
I need Windows for development purposes. A workmate said to me, "always spec it out." I was lucky, in 2015 I got a 2015 15 inch and I ran band camp natively, smoothly and without issues. Absolutely loved it. Luke has done a great CZcams to show how the 2015 a5 inch hits the sweet spot.
The 15 inch is only now starting to chug, and the alternatives are confusing. Windows laptop hardware always seems to involve some kind of compromise with build quality and speed. Windows 11 requires security hardware, and this looks to me like a trend to make Windows on Mac "uncomfortable". Virtual machines on the Mac do not seem to be a solution.
What about keyboard issues on mac ? Arent they quality iissues?
I am having a hard time deciding which one to buy. Either a 512 GB-36 GB RAM M3 Pro 16" or a 1TB-36 GB RAM M3 Max 14". Is there that much difference in battery? Is M3 Max really much better than M3 Pro? I would be missing battery and big screen, but better performance I guess. Any advice?
I don't think you mentioned it, was the 16" in high power mode for the test?
This to me is why the 12/18 M3 Pro is the best among the 14-inch models. There’s plenty of power available for all but the absolute most demanding tasks (said users should get the 16-inch anyway) while also not compromising on thermals, battery life, and acoustics.
That’s why that’s the model I opted for even with all the “experts” on CZcams claiming it makes no sense
@@iFkNxLegend They're saying that because the M3 Pro is objectively a paltry upgrade over the M2 Pro. It literally has less bandwidth and less transistors on the chip than the M2 Pro. Apple added two more performance cores and took away two efficiency cores to balance it out so it didn't actually be a DOWNgrade from M2 Pro. It's literally a side step and not an upgrade. Still is an "ok" upgrade if you're coming from M1 or Intel, but just on principle it's not worth what they're charging. Apple is charging "big 30% upgrade over M2 Pro" money for M3 Pro, but the chip is not that, and that's why it doesn't really make sense to buy if you care about your dollar. No one's saying it's un-useable, it's just a bad deal for how much it doesn't deliver what it should have compared to M3 over M2 and M3 Max over M2 Max. So that's why most of the tech reviewers are shitting on the M3 Pro. Just because it's "enough" for you doesn't mean the tech reviewers don't know what they're talking about or are wrong.
The 14/30 M3 Max may not throttle in the 14" unless you're hammering both simultaneously. Therefore it is an option for those who want the smaller form factor but still more performance than an M3 Pro
I just received my 14" Macbook Pro M3 Max. Yeah, there's some thermal throttling, the fans ramp up...but it's faster at Redshift rendering than my 4 month old maxed out Mac Studio M2 Ultra. It's crazy that this kind of power is in a 14" laptop. I'll take it all day long.
Also...the fan noise on the 14" Macbook Pro is like a WOOOSH, the frequency doesn't annoy me. Unlike the HOWL of high end PC-based laptops with big internal GPUs. Can't stand that for doing 3D production work all day long.
Which config did you get? Does low power mode significantly decrease fan noise?
@@bladerealm124 It's the fully loaded 14" M3 Max with 16 CPU cores and 40 GPU cores. The fans only run when either the CPU or GPU are running full blast for things like rendering. Not sure about gaming. Otherwise, it's pretty much silent.
@@lucas6700 so bizarre. Half the users of the 14" M3 Max I've asked have said theirs is nearly silent most of the time then the other half say theirs is so loud and annoying constantly that they're planning on returning it. There are several discussions on it on macrumors and reddit r/macbook. I'm not sure what to believe. I guess I'll just have to test mine when it comes in.
You should have bought the 16” with the same specs, no thermal throttling for me.
sooo tempted to get the 14 pro max. We will see. Have to pay for braces and getting Br augmentation. so I am pretty much spending all my money. Maybe I'll do vids of the progress for both. That might offset a couple dollars. Not really liking the idea of putting my face or chest on the inter webs though. As a production person I have "a perfect face for radio" lol.
could you please do the comparison of the 14 inch and 16 inch M3 max MBP, but with the BINNED version (14c/30c)?
Very helpful
Hi Luke, is there any fan control program that you may advise?
was this video shot on an iPhone? I noticed some strange HDR art effects or something like that
The 14” is yes a fantastic portable MacBook Pro for those that are travelling around but it’s also not comfortable to use without some form of additional hand/wrist support. Whereas the 16” is just simply pure joy to use and totally agree about larger screen trackpad speakers etc it’s just all round better if you can afford the extra cost.
the 16 inch is too large to be comfortable portable
@@another_turtleFor you maybe.
When Mac Studio M3 Max comes out it would be amazing to see this test:
MBP14
MBP16
Mac Studio
All with the same chip: equal cores and RAM.
The thermals would be very interesting:
Fans speed
Fans noise
Thermal throttle
Performance
I've seen this 16 inch boy in stores since the last one with Intel and my first impression is always: "this boy is too large". MBA15 M2 is much better in size but that boy got not HDMI and no SD card slot...
So is it worth spending the extra $300 on the 16” just to get better cooling performance?
luke we are more interested in real life experience. tests than sinthetic.. and can you make a video editing dedicated video about the evolution fo mchip.. but with the timeline.. and what do you use for your channel.. the new m3max?
I wish if you mentioned if the BenQ monitor includes a built in speaker
Or no
What do you mean seamless Mac integration? it’s a 4K 27 inch the scaling is going to suck on that thing
As expected. The 14" has a smaller battery. And will thermal throttle running Cinebench. I don't care about that. The 14" is what I bought, but only the base model M3 Max. I love it and the portability outweighs the benefits of the bigger screen for me.
How is the fan noise?
@@bladerealm124 no fan noise on my 14” MacBook Pro M3 Max. It is handling everything I throw at it.
Does the base m3 max thermal throttle on 14 inch like the 40 core m3 max does on the 14 inch chassis?
What if you prop them up for better airflow?
Have you tested the 14 core M3 Max on the 14”, is it significantly better in terms of noise/battery?
I'm still searching for this comparison
@@bladerealm124 I cannot find a single review for 14" with M3 Max 14/30, not one. Let alone a comparison!
Hey Luke that was a really good test. I think between you and Max Tech, the tests you guys did, the 16” has enough of a performance increase to warrant the extra money for me. So that’s the one I’m getting, even as a college student - it’s still portable enough I can take it to class in my backpack. But for a lot of people, such as my dad, I can see he’d be best off with the 14” because he needs the extra portability for his job, on flights and stuff.
The chance you are actually buying this computer is almost 0.
@@robertleidner9703 Actually I just placed the order at Best Buy 😁
We need a 14 binned vs non binned test. Does the max base run cooler, with less fan noise, probably but how much?
I'm not cross shopping the 14 vs 16, I don't want to carry a boat anchor around. So which 14 the is the question. Apple has limited the memory in the Pro and base Max to push people to the binned Max. The 14 max 64GB is $100 cheaper than the 14 base 96GB. If the binned max throttles, then it may be worth getting the base with 96GB.
I've been looking everywhere but still can't find this comparison
@@bladerealm124me too
If losing GPU is not an issue, base 96gb would be it 👍
buy the 14 inch and on the way home buy a fire extinguisher that you put next to the computer, it will be the cheapest alternative
maybe apple will develop a fire extinguisher in matching color as an accessory for 1000 dollars but i had bought a regular red one for 30 dollars
Confused between the 14 inch m3 pro, 512 gb, 18gb vs 36gb or the 16 inch m3 max 14c/30c,36 gb 1 tb ssd. My needs are 4k video editing, lightroom and photoshop. I want the max but if m3 pro is enough, I don't want to overspend. Please help me make the right decision.
Thanks, this is just another confirmation I should take the 16” M3 Pro over the 14”.
I don’t fly so much anymore, but even if, I would take out my iPad to watch a movie, and not worry about the table 😉 Folks on CZcams worry too much about plane trays 😅
Anyway, all those synthetic tests show that any M3 chip will benefit from a larger chassis. However, most people will not push those laptops to their limits as benchmark tools do.
Were these tests in automatic mode or high power mode? The conclusions seem to be the complete opposite to Max Tech's recent video, and I assume that is the x factor giving the two different perspectives. I have a 14" M3 Max, and so far the fans seem to kick on a LOT! Debating whether I should switch it out for a 16"
Have you tried low power mode? Do the fans kick in less? I've read that you can achieve M3 Pro level performance in low power mode while keeping the fan noise down.
I've not really - I don't see the use. Having paid for the top speed, it seems strange to run it slow. I guess if I was in a very quiet location it might be useful, but 99.9% of the time I need the speed.@@bladerealm124
I was intriguged by the Max tech video. I have a very good experience with my 14" M3 max 64Go 1T and my tests (Xcode and Webkit) are very comparable (even better) than the other 16" reviews
@@MusicZtorm 14/30 core or 16/40 core?
@@MusicZtorm how is the fan noise?
Well, this was not the biggest surprise I've seen, but at least it was an informative video, like I expected but I am off to buy the old macbook
Good testing those two sizes of M3 max MBPs. Do people weigh up which size of MBP in terms of possible speed differences? Maybe previous M1 and M2s were different power in size. I tend to choose the form factor first, so for me 16" first. If I traveled more I would probably go with 14". Having said that I could only go for the M2 pro as the Max was overkill for me. Interesting the M3 Mac MBP has the more efficiency cores. But if you need that power M3 Max MBP is a fantastic machine.
You should do the thermal pad mod on the 14 and see how that affects it against the 16
THANK YOU ! I have requested that in so many videos
Completely unnecessary is why they don’t. This is just made up loads you’ll never see. Set custom fan curves and poof everything is solved. I’ve tested many machines since the m1 none match these videos
Make a comparison between 16 inch M3 max and rtx 4090 like what you did previously😊
will the battery life be affected if I max out the 16 inch specs?
does m3 max macbook pro 14 only have one fan? Is the setup a lot weaker than the m2 max 14 iin terms of the fan?
Luke when you maxed the fans how much that cost battery wise
Is it me or does my Midnight 15" MBA look way darker than that Space "Black" 16"?
Yo! please do a M3 Max vs A laptop with i9 rtx 4090 comparison video editing workflow. There are no videos on youtube doing this comparison.
And what about the 14inch 14c Mac, will it also trotlle
Can you try with thermal pads on the 14 ?
As someone who wants to get a 16 inch laptop anyway, and I said laptop, not MacBook, I see this as an absolute win.
1:56 i actually looked up Delta E. what it means, and what score the M2 Pro MacBook Pro has. just for shits & giggles.
um.... holy crap. 0. friggin 2?!?!? are you KIDDING me?!!??! insane. that is absolutely bonkers color accuracy. that is color accuracy so good, it would give a lot of experts trouble noticing the differences. you might even call it overkill.
If you are going to run a Blender test, when looking for thermal performance differences, and one render takes only 18 seconds, consider rendering a complete animation. I believe the classroom project you are using is an animation.
I bought 14” m3 max (30 gpu cores) knowing it runs slower than 16”, just for more compact package
and honestly I’m very happy with it
It’s really worth using apps like tg pro to spin up the fans for heavy tasks to keep cpu cooler and mitigate my anxiety from seeing 100+ degrees temperatures 😅
14” does not like when all cpu cores are loaded, internal fans can’t cool it down under 100°C
but for full gpu load there’s another detail
I use topaz video ai a lot.
It likes to eat all available gpu power and I leave it working overnight with fans full blasting
yet macos prefers to throttle gpu clock from 1.4 to 0.9 ghz for workloads this long even with temperatures lower than 90°
I also noticed that gpu clock goes down if there’s no user interactions with macbook while topazing videos
still I conclude 14” handles heavy loads extremely well and not much to worry about
Cooling would be easier if the GPUs could somehow be separated from the CPUs. Apple seemingly could really dominate desktop CPU performance if they cared about it.