TaylorMade Kingdom Fitting With Tour Player Jason Gore | TrottieGolf
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- Former PGA Tour Winner Jason Gore was gracious enough to allow me to film his SIM 2 Driver fitting at The Kingdom Carlsbad CA.
Living at mid 160 MPH Ball Speed, hitting 300 yard total drives on demand he demonstrates the consistency top players bring to the table when searching for the optimum ball flight.
Bouncing between a Fuji Ventus Black & Blue Model we talk in detail about the desired " WINDOW " to create endless " HIGH BOMBS "
Huge thank you to Jason for allowing the camera to roll, sit back, SUBSCRIBE n enjoy.....
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Trottie is what every golfer needs. He is straight up with whoever he’s fitting. “ This is what you need to beat your buddies or this is what you need to compete on the Senior Tour”.
More please... this was awesome! Thanks Jason Gore for letting us tag along!
Best CZcams suggestion I’ve had in a while
You are an excellent communicator with great people skills and I sense the caring of the person you are fitting! True professional, Big Fan Trottie, no smoke!
Thanks man appreciate you & the comment.... Just edited a solid vid on the 46" Driver shaft, it'll drop next #TOURTRUCKTUESDAY
I grew up playing golf with Jason in Southern California. He was a great player than, he still is a great player now. I want to see him succeed on the Champions Tour!
Total unit, still has unreal speed, seems like a great guy!
Many thanks that was really interesting and demonstrated the range of skills need to Fit players at the Pro level, part coach, part caddie, part mind coach and part diplomat with a touch of tough love thrown in for results.
Oh, and all the tech knowledge to actually fit the player, with what he needs rather than what he likes!
NAILED IT.... What he said
@@trottiegolf 👍
That was an absolute gem need more of them plus the fact you said he could use two different shaft. soft for days he isn’t feeling it was magic
With today’s average player they should look at different possibly softer shafts that gains them launch and distance
Please make more like this
Trottie, you've truly taught me so much watching these videos! Golf has been fun for me again after taking some time off. One day when I get the money, I want to get fitted by you!! Thanks for the quality videos and effort for us.
Much Respect from a loyal fan!
Great news.... glad you're loving it again. Tough game, stay patient and have fun (if you can)
Absolutely amazing content. Trottie has a brilliant direct style of communication, straight to the point.
More content like this please Trottie!!!! Love it
I hear ya brotha.... I'll do / film what I can for ya
What a great video. Chris is top of his craft. The one dislike on this vid is from the Callaway rep.
🤣 prolly fella
I could watch this type of video all day long, probably your best video yet sir 👌
I have a fitting for the SIM 2 on Wednesday with Jason at golf principles and as you can imagine I’m buzzing for it
Had my Taylormade fitting today and definitely felt a lot like Jason…both with the feel and visuals. I can’t argue with the results however.
This was really fun and interesting to watch!
So much knowledge fantastic video wish I could have a fitting like this 👍👍⛳⛳
Yo Trott - Great video bud! Gore is reluctant to modernize his driver. Reminds of Tiger, of old. They are the same generation, after all. The lower spin balls and heads have changed everything, so have to change with the times or else you're just giving your competitors free strokes on the first tee.
AGREED
I’d love to see a full tour player fitting with woods, irons, wedges and putter.
Completely agree with the mental visual apex height issue from days gone by.
Back in the day I always struggled with too much height off the driver, which was coupled with lots of spin.
Coming back to the game 20 years later I was trying to get an apex of around 100ft, but didn't appreciate with new tech you can flight at 120-30 with a spin profile that won't compromise, even into wind.
I still keep finding myself gravitating to lofts that are to low in modern drivers for the exact same reason.
This is awesome, love this insight. Would love to see more fitting videos like this, keep up the great work! 👍
This is absolutely golden! Love it. Only thing keeping it from pure epicness would be some shot tracer too. Would love to see more videos like this!
Amazing video, keep the pro fitting videos coming!!!
My man looks like he's smuggling two holiday hams in those calves lol
Awesome fitting ! Yes like to see more of these instead of club building (not bitching, club building is great too !)
So much passion here
Hey Jason, My father Vince from Valencia used to love watching you Play !
I’m newly subscribed to this channel this is great viewing
This video with Jason gore was excellent
Great to see the procedure you go through for a fitting
I have to say the sound of the driver sounds so good they hit so well it’s on the money
Thx for the feedback fella & don't hesitate to chime in down the track as I'm always looking to tweak and improve where possible
Keep them coming trottie. The insight from this type of video is up there with the boys at TXG.
Absolutely brilliant video
Brilliant love to see more of these.
Such an awesome video. It would have been nice to have Jason mic'd up to hear what he was saying more clearly but still very interesting!👍
Yeah I hear ya.... low budget man.... I gotta get me another mic set up.... I'm on it pro
Fabulous video with great insights and knowledge.
Great video....such small changes make a big difference
Outstanding video! Thank you for posting this!
Definitely enjoyed this. Would love to see more like this
Yes please more like this 👍👍👍👍
wow... that's a club fitter!!! A master!
The player is almost like every golfer in the world. Likes the look of a certain thing that’s obviously not better for him. Shows you should trust the fitting process more and realize sometimes the actually best thing is listening.
Love these. Us golfers are all head cases. We know what’s best for us but sometimes cannot commit to it. It’s just Jason’s good enough to compensate and still play well but the average golfer needs to give up what they like to see or take the ego out and go by the numbers.
The title of the video should be “ Chris Trott genius at work “
Jeez. Trottie dishing harsh love in there.
Great video, so interesting.
Gore is a unit but has a very smooth swing. Which Iam glad about because in his prime he ripped it so hard and so far, no wonder he has had surgery.
I don't think I have seen many people that extends the index finger on their right hand that much, it's odd to look at.
Great stuff Trottie! Would love to see more like this!
I LOVE my R7 Quad!! I still bomb it with this driver. Interesting watching a fitting for a guy struggling after surgery. Have to strike a balance between how you are hitting it today and how you want to hit it...
Just told him how it is. Love that
Great watch!
Would love to see more!
Man can you imagine if every fitter was as dedicated as Chris? Looks to me the a lot of them out there look bored when they are fitting you and I'm taking about some high end well known places.
This amazing stuff
Loved this
Trott is an amazing fitter, love his honesty. Far too often fitters sugarcoat and the fitting is rubbish.
Sugarcoating hasn't got me this far, it's a balancing act... my style has evolved based on experience I don't recommend this approach for a newbie
@@trottiegolf that’s why your content is the best! I used to be a fitter, I feel like I was a great fitter, but some of my clients did not like to hear that blades were not the best for them, or that they needed a softer flex. But that is golf. Keep it up! Cheers!
@@JonDodd81 ego can be a killer
More fitting videos!
I hear ya PLYR... I have one more recorded (not edited yet).... AND I will confess now it's the same mic set up.... apologies in advance
Loved that! What head was he hitting? What did he end up getting? This would be a cool new series.
I hear ya , SIM2, Fuji Ventus Blk 6x, 9.5 on lower, 2° sleeve
Good stuff man!
Absolutely fantastic video. As someone that wants to be a fitter these kind of insights are so helpful. Keep the 🧅 coming #tourtrucktuesday
#TTT
Great. Really enjoyed it. Question: can you give more explanation on how sleeve changes the perception of closed and open face?
sure...
less loft (lower) = open
more loft (higher) = closed
each turn on a 1.5* sleeve to keep it simple is roughly .5* face angle
Hope that helps
@@trottiegolf thank you.
Big fan of Jason Gore. Hope to see him on TV playing great golf. I am getting fit on Sunday for a SIM 2 driver. I will be hitting range balls outside. Should I hit 3-5 good balls to insure the driver is giving me the right spin? I play a grip that weighs 57 grams. Should I be concerned with the grip that I am using during the demo if it is lighter? This was a great video! Thanks!
Yes hit 3 - 5 good balls for certain & "no" on the grip question provide someone is balancing the swingweights up correctly when building your club & ensuring you have the exact loft to match the demo you used
11:06 Uhh everyone okay over there 😂
What confused me a little bit about this fitting, was the landing angle. You've talked about wanting to see this type of speed at about a 38* land angle. That's where Jason was when his spin was down closer to 2000, with the higher launch angle you want to see him with. When his spin got into the mid 2000's his land angle was about 42*
38* on hard fairway conditions, he would have been carrying it further with more spin on the ball.
very good.
I'm living here
Wish I could have a fitting like this
Love to see shot trackers.
Drops tomorrow with tracer
Love it!!
So blue was 7x tipped 1.5”
And black was 6x? Tipped how much?
🧅🧅🧅
1.5" I think we finished on
The one day we need pro tracer technology.....
Great video would love to see more content like this. Whats the best advice you would give an amateur who who as a very quick swing with a big slice?
He'll tell you the same thing most people will, get lessons. It shouldn't take many to fix your slice. My buddy had his fixed in his first lesson.
Loved that Trottie. If you ever get to come to Northumberland May be for the British Masters, give me a shout 😆 Going off what I’ve just watched, I’m no where near as good as Jason but I’m 47, with around 112 speed, bad miss is a pull. My set up is a 9 degree SIM with a 6.5 mid spin project x set in upright. Am I right in thinking it’s time for a softer shaft? Or May be more loft as sometimes I get the dipping flight
You got speed pro.... the dip is gonna be a toe, high in the blade flight
Newcastle, borough or Sunderland???
@@trottiegolf Newcastle for my sins 🙈 who do you follow?
@@johneden3810 oh gees #ynwa 🔴 fella
@@trottiegolf great team, great coach. I’ll not mention the 1-1 draw 😉
This is my dream job! Love the content and channel man! I am a club fitter and builder with a local retail company in the states. How can I learn and be better at this?
Just keep reading stuff you like & gain experience. I don’t know if a masterclass I’d recommend. Sorry pro
Great video. Although for some reason it kind of made me sad.
"I wanna compete but cant keep up with these kids"...mate, just activate those monstrous calves and youll be in the pga in no time.
Amazing - How much would a driver fitting cost at Taylormade
Yes. More of this. You need GC Quad to show strike to him. Why trackman?
Habit I guess... TrackMan is my go to as a fitter but I do like the quad too
Hi Trottie, which launch monitor do you prefer using TrackMan or Foresight GC Quad for fitting? Is one better for outdoor and one better for indoor? I see a lot of pros now using both on the range at the same time, why would they do that? Thanks
Sometimes they one calibrated to the clubhead and the other studying the ball numbers, other times it's a comparison. Honestly both monitors are great, indoor is tough as seeing ball flight is always key. Personal preference and habit but personally I like TrackMan but its more habit and an honest answer opposed to maybe a fair one.
Trootie I'm a huge taylormade fan. All clubs are taylormade brand! Where can I find the taylormade tour truck in charlotte for quail hallow! I'll be there Thursday and would like to meet you in person
Wheels up, Wade will have left town
Be fun if Jason just played a few rounds with his normal driver, lower trajectory ball 1 from that spot...then walked 20 yards further along the line of flight and played ball 2 from the forward position...see howbhis scores vary....if he consistently scores lower from the 20 yard forward balls then maybe worth revamping his swing and opinion re. Old school flight....he would see the benefit of that period of discomfort required to get a more Rory-like flight.
So I got the 9 degree SIM 2 Max and a 10.5 SIM Max. I want to hit the ball higher but my misses are to the right - so I should go w/ the 9 degree SIM 2 Max, up the loft, which will close the face and stop me from losing it right? GO MAX VERSTAPPEN!
You got it! Max V.... no no no, Hamilton all the way fella
Starts at 5 Left and 2 down and peels a low 272 carry spinner into the fairway. If I'm caddying for you, I need to see if you can hit 'that' shot (2up, neutral path, 13 launch, 2200 spin, 110-120 height, 285 carry), otherwise, we're not making money. He hits the shot - but doesn't like seeing it. Go home, play some golf - and learn to like it. Awesome
need to see it
These guys are amazing, you have truly seen the skill behind the PLYR in this video..... honestly working with the best PLYR's in the game I have to position the fitting this way. Nice comment, I'm glad you saw the point behind what we try and achieve to improve ball flight... top man
Hi Trottie - I am hovering around 170-175 ball speed. I really like the ventus shafts that I have tested. what are your recommendations for shaft tipping on the blue 6x and black 6x
With that speed 1”
@@trottiegolf got the blue 6x tipped and it feels great! Thank you for the insight. Also I love the content. Always look forward to Tour truck Tuesday’s
@@coythomas91 B O O M
If back weight is 8 grams, what is the front weight? Thanks for the great video
All depends on swing weight you’re looking to achieve and finished length
why do you use trackman instead of GCquad which seems to be the launch monitor of choice now on tour?
Always used TrackMan but have nothing against GCquad, just habit & preference
@@trottiegolf fair enough! Thanks for the reply
I thgiuth the loft sleeves came standard at a 2 degree increase and decrease
I am using a tour loft sleeve, I don't know 100% what they offer at retail. Sorry pal
@@trottiegolf all good boss. Love your content man.
Flight track needed
Now do this with an LPGA player who lives in that 97- 102 club speed range.
Easy enough the numbers required for the player change.... that's all. The LPGA Players are just as talented & will hit the center face just as often. All Tour Pro's are legit to be fair
Anyone else been there tension the whole time? Felt like Jason didn’t want to change and Trottie was trying to give him advice.
I don't think it was tension as much as it was Jason being reluctant to accept what he knows he needs to accept. He said he used to be in the 180s and right now post surgery he's in the 160s. He even said he knew Trottie was right, just takes time to accept getting older
Sorry if I missed it but what loft did he end up with and what size weights.
9.5 head , 16g back I think from memory
Trottie or anyone who has the knowledge to help i'm looking at getting a new driver probably sitting around 113 swing speed and high 160s ball speed on average, load early in my downswing any recommendations on flex and shaft brand to try so much out there it confuses me at the best of times
X Flex, Ventus Black not a bad place to start & if it feels to stiff then back off to Ventus Blue or find other manufacturer equivalents
@@trottiegolf amazing cheers man that gives me a great starting point and if Taylor made works with them they must be a top quality brand
So what was he fit into head wise vs his old setup?
SIM2 PLYR
@@trottiegolf head loft and setting? 9 or 10.5 opened up?
@@thinch4972 9.5 on lower I think we ended up at
So what did he end up getting?
More loft than he's played in the past & a stronger tip cut shaft
Whats a good dynamic loft for a 7 iron?
34-degree 7-iron with 10-degrees forward shaft lean but with 3 degrees forward shaft deflection at impact equals 27-degrees. Hitting down on ball by 3-degrees = 24-degrees - down by 5-degrees = 22-degrees. The launch will be pulled down another 5-degrees by the friction of the face on the ball so launch = 17-19 degrees. I made this all up but it's basically correct. Pro-impact with short irons is 10-15 degrees forward shaft lean & 2-6 degrees down. Forward shaft deflection at impact is a complete guess but it's ballpark for sure. Friction is a complete guess but it's my approximation looking at launch monitors. I stand to be corrected on any or all of the above - but taken all together, you will end up in a similar spot. I play a 32-degree 7-iron, launch 19-20, 120 ball-speed, 6000 spin - put that in an online launch monitor and I get my 170-175 carry range - so it all jells
@@wallstreetoneil I think your spin number is too low but otherwise I like everything else that you said you made up :0)
@@trottiegolf Thanks! I'm a stats/math guy who has built a lot of models professionally - also happen to live in Toronto and I'm a customer of Ian at TXG and been following their videos for 3 years & been there to have my clubs bent for loft & lies. With my interest in the subject I've put the rest together watching & listening - I'm basically by professional at estimation and pretty good at getting approximate answers Loved the video
What head did he end up with and what loft
9.5* ... Sim2
@@trottiegolf that’s awesome. So with 2 degree sleeve he opened it to 7.5 loft and open face? Cheers for great videos
Come on, I’m not buying that he’s buying (Paying).
Hey Trottie I'm looking to get some new irons. I'm 5'6" and my local store says standard length is good for me. The clubs still feel a bit too long for me. What's the best way to determine what club length is right?
Strike point on the blade, can you center the strike with the length they are recommending?
@@trottiegolf only after I choke up on the grip
@@Dominooch Seems like you got a case to change the length
He is "buying" a driver? Really, he has to pay?
Yes USGA policy, trust me I wanted to give it to him but he was adamant
Purchase a Sim 2 , Don't think so...