Thrustmaster vs Logitech T248 vs G923 Force feedback racing wheels
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- čas přidán 23. 12. 2021
- Thrustmaster T248 vs Logitech G923 Racing wheel review
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This is it folks, I decided to lift the curtain and direct compare the offerings of Logitech and Thrustmaster with the Thrustmaster T248 and Logitech G923 all having their highs and lows described, as well as compared to the T150 the T300 and the G29 and G920 force feedback wheels.
Sim racing, casual racing, you just sit in a cardboard box making vroom vroom sounds? All are welcome.
No punches held back, just an honest review to help you decide what force feedback racing wheel set is the right choice for you. Race you to the finish!
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if its g923 vs t248, i think the t248 has more pros. better ffb, magnetic sensor on the pedals, the pedals are also well built. not to mention on the fly settings (ffb levels, rotation) with the lcd. but for the price, i think the g29 is still great.
the t248 is in a tough spot lacking swappable wheels. i guess thrustmaster isn't planning to discontinue the t300 anytime soon, or at least they may have plans releasing an update to the t300.
The magnetic paddles is a must ... I did that upgrade on my g29, it's loud but it feels more realistic than the plastic ones.
Thanks for the detailed review. Definitely helped me make a choice between these two for my first wheel!
Glad to help Scott! Thank YOU for letting me know you found it helpful :D
Round 2 of Thrustmaster vs Logitech. No holds barred, no punches pulled - just an honest review hoping to help our viewers decide which might be right for them.
This is such a hard call. Why couldn’t Thrustmaster make the wheel leather then it would have been a done deal. I’m after a wheel and pedals for GT7 and I’m guessing the T248 was designed for the PS5 and future proof. More on the fence than I was now! Ha
I'm glad I could help add to your confusion JukaVW...lol. I never said I'd make it easy, I only promised honesty :D
Yeah, weird decision. Thrustmaster could've just wrapped the plastic wheel with leather and changed those noisy plastic shift paddles with aluminum then called it a day. Would have been an instant buy over G29 for most beginner driving sim. Its just saving couple of bucks on their end
I ended up getting g the t248 and added a lace on steering wheel wrap from Amazon. Feels way better now
@@FXLRS_Karno is the steering wheel wrap relatively cheap?? & How are the paddle shifters? Im still deciding between this & the G923..
@@wolfboy20 I think the wrap was around $15. And I don’t mind the paddles. Usually wearing a headset so don’t notice it that much
Based on this comparison video and others I've watched I just pre-ordered the t248 Xbox version. It seems the bottom line is the t248 has better ffb which will make for more enjoyable driving and better gameplay. While there are other pros and cons it's impossible to overlook that one.
That's always the trick. Rarely is one a runaway "this one is the best" product, but hopefully the video did help you with what you were looking for. I hope you have a blast with you T248 Jamie!!
Funny iracing states 2.2nm for G923 and only 2nm for T248.
Even if they were both 2 I don't know... Pretty close to be the difference maker, my reason was build quality and feel so I went opposite g923
T300 has 4nm of ffb
@@taylorbertrim7625 you just cant beat the built quality and reliability with the g923
Thank you for your reviews. I am in between the two wheels now. But I think I will chose Logitech because of their durability. My old DFGT is still working after 10 years and I bought it second hand.
I'm glad you enjoyed the reviews, and honestly you can't really go wrong with either brand. I hope you enjoy the Logitech and get even more than 10 years out of it going forward Turbo Racing!!
I went with the g923, I'm loving it so far.
Great review.
Thank you kindly Burt! Very appreciated :D
im really hooked with that trueforce but i still cant decide whether or not i buy the g23 or t300rs gt becuase i really do like both
G923*
Hello, great video, very helpful. Are these wheels compatible with HTC Vive, Valve Index, and Oculus Rift?
Thank you very much Zen, and you can absolutely use any kind of wheel with your VR set, no matter which one you have :)
@@barefootgaming6265 Thank you! :-D
I returned my T248 after two weeks. I despised the paddle shifters which I'm surprised you didn't show a recording of. The feel of the wheel was also just not what I expected for $500 CAD. The cheap feeling materials and the pedals lacking a solution for carpet really put me off. FFB felt.. fine, I guess. Not fine enough to make the other cons worth it though.
I’m looking to get my first wheel for PS5. Currently Amazon have the G29 for £200 and the Thrustmaster T248 for £230. I’m seen negative review about the break on G29 and the noise and shifters on the T248. Would T248 be the better choice?
I have the G29... it s a bad steering wheel... My pedals are broken and the steering wheel statred to making plastic sounds from first days I bought it. It s broken and i sell it with 100 EUR and now i want to buy the T248.
These are the two I’m stuck between. Lol.
I have a ps5 so will be playing on there, I like both wheels but I feel like I’d prefer the leather of the g293 instead of the plastic of the thrustmaster..
Which one would you think would be better for ps5, the g293 or the thrustmaster?
Get 'em both Prij!
I joke of course. Honestly it really depends what is most important to you. They are both good wheels, and in the end all I've tried to do is show you the differences :)
Get whatever you can find on sale.
How are you driving rally in VR? It is impossible to my mind, feel very sick after 1 minute in VR in Dirt 2.0
fantastic review ! g923 is currently $250 and t248 is $340 while t300rs is $440 - is g923 the best deal pit of these or is the t248 or 300ra worth the extra money ?
Too bad Logitech makes almost the same Wheel basically since g27 at least.
You're not wrong Vakich! Although the G27 is definitely louder (or mine was at least)!
London Drugs currently has the T248 on sale for CAD $399... I hope the loud gear shifts don't drive me up the wall....
Worst case scenario you can get noise cancelling headphones from them as well with all the money you're saving Max! :D
I'm sure you'll love it!
Turn rubber bands around them...
Hello, I’m late to the party. What rally game are you playing?
i got the t248 for my partner since it was 100 dollars more than buying the upgraded pedals for my t300 and its better than the t150 it replaces.
Can you use the cheap Logitech H gear shifter with the t248 ?
Yeah with an adapter though
I was choosing between the TX and the 248. The TX is the Xbox version of the T300. I won't say you're wasting money on the 248. It is a good setup but for a $100 more, you can get the TX or T300 and be able to upgrade the steering wheel. You can't on the 248. Just thought I would throw that info in there. Great video!
I dont know where you live .. but in ontario a t248 is 469 cad , the t300 is 700 . . . Quite the difference
@@Redwrx20 I'm in Texas. If you can order from the states or go to N.Y. B&H Photo has the upgraded T300 for $399 I think.
@@PJDobbs you can get lucky and find the t248 for 299 and at the price it's hard to say the t300 is worth it for 200 more.
@@Ryan-re1rs I broke down and bought the TS-XW. It's been a great base so far. Don't know how it compares to sim cube or fanatec ( I've never had the opportunity to try one) but I think it could hold it's own.
I own a tx and trust me, it’s just so good. The force feedback is adequate and it’s quiet too!
2 questions, what rig do you use and how much money is it? 2 question, which wheel do you use more?
That would be the DOF Reality H6 in the video that I'm using. LOTS of ways it can be configured but I've got a full review of it (one video using racing and one using flight if you want to see more czcams.com/video/vARsvZARyvM/video.html).
As to the wheel I myself settled on? Honestly, I use the Thrustmaster T300 the most over either of these, but between the two I spend more time with the G923. I hope that helps Parsash2! Any other questions fire them my way as I'm always glad to help :)
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Witch one is better for nascar heat 5 ps5
I'm looking for a new setup and I'm in Canada and can pick one of these up.I can get one for $350.
Do you game barefoot when NOT on camera? Curious minds want to know, and you offered @10:28.....
Only when I want to win/get the highest of scores Fish ;) - as gaming barefoot is the secret to do so!
@@barefootgaming6265 then I don't want to know what you do in real life when you find yourself at a football game, drink a few too many, and decide it would be funny to go run on the field, but you also decide you want to get a big laugh while doing it.
Have a g29, have a opportunity to get a trustmuster for a good price. Should I get it?
It REALLY depends what you're looking for in a wheel Con James - as well as which model of each. For me personally, the Thrustmaster T300 scratches all of my itches, but mileage will vary depending on what is most important to you. In these wheel reviews I do my best to just list highs and lows of each, and hope that helps you decide which is right for you :)
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I wish Logitech would man up and release a premium wheel setup. My G27 is so legendary I put the G923 back in the box and keep it as a back up. It did not feel worlds different or quieter....
I have both g27 and g29/g923. I've opened both up and the internals are identical. Imagine if Logitech released a hybrid but kept the same nice build quality, what a missed opportunity.
they just did! A grand for 11 newtons and true force, dual mag clutch and shift paddles.
@@timothyjudsontaylorofficia9786 Yes, probably going to be my next wheel. I've researched everything out there and I like this new beginning.
@@labounti Logitech has put a lot of value into that! I am taking delivery of a g923 today, and will spend time sorting sim racing out. Once I have it down, evaluate if an extra grand is worth it to me. Very intriguing!
@@timothyjudsontaylorofficia9786 if my dad is rotschilds i can buy it maybe.
What's the sound at 10:06 for?
THAT was supposed to be the shifters on the Thrustmaster. I had them in the video twice. The first time CZcams turned it to static (so I edited it out), and the second time my video editing software masked it with the background music. I apologize...I'm thinking what I will do is upload JUST the sound of the shifters and put a link in that spot :s
Figure it's about 4-6x as loud as the Logitech
Which one feels more real?
I’m after my first wheel for gt7, I could not bear the noise of the flappy paddles on the t248 and the shifter puts the price WAY up… I also hate the design, much prefer a t300, the FFB and belt drive is a pro though…. the pedals seem better on the Logitech now, but is a noisy wheel, yet the H pattern shifter can be had for pennies… now they have sorted the pedals i am swaying more toward the g923… but they both seem toy like… and I don’t really have more than £300 to spend on a racing wheel for a game 🤷♂️ I’m seriously considering getting a used t300 off eBay 😕
I bought a surplus unused g923 and am awaiting the AXC upgrades for the pedals along w mag shifter upgrade and h gate. having driven it stock, the wheel feels really quite good. the leather and metal feel good. The stock pedals do not shine, and the upgrades are cheap. You do the upgrades and you have a good solid platform. Maybe not the best, but very good.
@@timothyjudsontaylorofficia9786 he should just buy a g29
Wear gloves with the t248 and problem s9lved. Thats what i do. Cant hear the paddles with headphones either..
Thank you for this comparison video, and the most important part of this is the build quality comparison, that a lot of videos (specifically G923 vs T248 comparisons) seem to neglect on talking about it.
You saying that the T248 feeling like a toy compared to the G923 confirmed my suspicions on whether or not the T248 feels great-had suspicions because of how it's built mostly on plastic-and with that, I think I'll go with G923 for my first sim-wheel, I'd rather go for quality build than feedback accuracy because whenever I hold something that feels like a toy, I always worry that I might break it, especially with that kind of peripheral that makes you go full ham on and fight against a powerful motor.
Again, thank you for this, I decide on getting a G923 in the future-or maybe an updated version of it, because it'll take a long time for me to get that amount of money haha.
Edit: Also, that beauty and the beast intro was awesome lol.
I'm SUPER glad you found the review both useful and entertaining Cirque Alvis! Thank YOU for the kind words and I wish you luck with your future purchase :D - and who knows what will be out when you've got the cash for the purchase! ;)
My first setup was Logitech g29. But had to sell it for family reasons and now I've had a tmx(Xbox version of t150) for the couple years now. I much prefer thrustmaster cuz or the pedals. But when it comes down to it all budget setups are crap. I can't wait to get the moza r9 and either the moza pedals or the vnm pedals but prolly moza.
G29/G923 torque: 2.1 nm
T150 Torque: 1.9 nm
T248: 3.23
Those are peak numbers, holding the peak is another thing… the T150 is pretty bad on holding the peak and speed, also fails to deliver details. The G29 was better at this.
Never tested the T248. Sold my T150 a while ago and got a stronger wheel. CSL Elite .
Imo I would say get neither. For the same price, you can find a T300 or TX in good condition and those are better in every way. I really wish that Thrustmaster would've just kept making the T300 and TX instead of spending resources on making an inferior wheel in the T248
All the wheels I've used and reviewed still has me coming back to the T300 Samuel, and that's till the one I have mounted on my motion sim as it's my preference as well.
Depends on what the person wants. Just stating and getting into it or going hard core and wanting the best. I think alot of people forget some just want to fave fun with a decent wheel and not have to bolt it to a dedicated rig.
A lot of waffle.
The trick with an honest review is there are generally pros and cons on all sides. What might be the best buy for me may not be what the viewer is looking for, and in the end my only goal is to make sure the viewer has all the info they need to decide what's the most important to them Martin :D