Franco Battiato- La voce del Padrone FULL ALBUM REACTION & REVIEW
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this record is pretty much revered religiously in Italy. you could put it on even nowadays and most people would recognize it and sing it by heart. lyrics are a very important part of Battiato's music, the translations you read weren't perfect but the meaning wasn't lost in translation, I think you got most of the core themes of the record. easily one of my favourite new wave records of all time, there's nothing like it and in terms of pop appeal there's not a single melody in here that isn't crafted to perfection. it seems easy to write songs like these but if you pay attention to the arrangements and conceptual development of motifs in the songs it's clear as day just how brilliant Battiato's pop songwriting is
That's what I was coming to say. I'm from Spain, and I remember the 80s when I first heard Battiato's songs. They were sung in Spanish and they were mysterious, poetic and beautiful. I memorised a lot of Italian lyrics over time, I did the same with Zucchero. :)
Capolavoro di Franco Battiato, ha segnato un'epoca! 'Autentico Genio musicale!
Battiato always had great musicians as session men, like Gavin Harrison (Porcupine Tree) on drums
His entire discography is exceptional.
He had an amazing career, moving from Prog to classical minimalism, through to electronic pop as here. My favourite tracks from this are the first and Bandiera Bianca.
What a pleasant end-of-year surprise I've ever gotten from Just. I shouldn't have paid the necessary attention and I had forgotten that you would release this album in its entirety. My most sincere thanks for that. Franco Battiato, whose name you pronounce very well, was a true musical genius. I play basically all styles. Sinty pop, rock, opera, since he has composed 3, electronic music, experimental music, psychedelia, progressive rock, etc. He also painted. He was a musical prophet, a mystic who admired Sufi philosophy, spoke several languages and sang in them. Many, many languages. English, German, French, Arabic, Spanish, etc. And although many lyrics are complex and sometimes their meaning is not well understood, some tell us almost forgotten facts of history, such as the Jesuit who went to the court of the emperor of the Ming dynasty, with Christianity under his arm. The Master's Voice was the first album to sell more than 1 million copies in Italy. Franco achieved worldwide fame with it, especially in Europe. He has published about 50 albums, some of them, like those from the 80s, are true musical gems. He got into politics and was soon expelled from parliament for saying that Italian politicians were like prostitutes who sold themselves to the highest bidder. He died of Alzheimer's about two years ago, after several years of retirement. In the last concerts he had to have a screen with the lyrics so he wouldn't forget them and although in some concerts he made mistakes and got lost, people were always very generous with him, because of the love and respect they had for him both as a person and as to his music. You have to be a very good singer and lyricist to, for example, in the song La cura, (care), say I love you a thousand times, without even pronouncing that word. A hug and a very happy 2024 to everyone. And I hope, Just, since you liked this album so much, that I have seen it in your face, that you do more reviews of the great Franco Battiato with those incredible albums from the 80s, 90s and 2000s that are waiting for you with open arms. Ah... as a curiosity, Franco Battiato had a birthday on the same day as me. On March 23. Ciao.
Good words, but one thing I missed in them: what about his seventies records? They are not so good?😊
@@Eduardo-Ferreira1982 Franco Battiato at that time was terribly experimental. He has some good albums like fetus, La Convenzione-Paranoia, Pollution, Sulle Corde Di Aries. But he now imagines a record in which he plays the same chord on the piano every 2 or 3 seconds for 20 minutes. The album is called Za, and this track takes up the entire album side A. He also has L'Egitto Prima Delle Sabbie where he does an ascending scale with the piano every few seconds for half an hour. That's on side A. Side B is similar. An unbearable hour. Unless you like minimalist music or want to leave your mind blank.
@@Nidels I don't like minimal music very much, to put it nicely. I have Sulle Corde di Aries and I like it, I think it's a good album. 😊
Your translation of "Centro Di Gravità Permanente" was more correct.
And "Sentimiento Nuevo" is Spanish (he liked to use different languages, he even made a song in Sicilian language and Arabic and another one in Sicilian and Latin). In Italian "sentimiento nuevo" is "sentimento nuovo".
This was an early Battiato song when he was into serious electronic prog czcams.com/video/lKNeiNaglGY/video.html - then he decided it was time to surrender and "Bandiera Bianca" (White Flag) is about him surrendering to the sistem and presenting a more poppish side of his music to the world....and he became rich and famous.
Battiato's lyrics are genial unpredictable and often dadaist...Like Fellini's films I don't like spending time trying to understand or deciphering what he wanted to tell us - I just enjoy it.
One of the best italian artists, and one of the best selling italian albums ever (my parents in 1981 had the 45rpm Bandiera bianca/Summer on a solitary beach, I was 4 and I was hypnotized by that disc. I have to suggest two great albums by a more recent italian artist: DIE and IRA by Iosonouncane.
It's great finishing the year with this reaction. Thank you Justin, and happy 2024
Hai avuto molto coraggio ad ascoltare questo autore e questo LP, Franco Battiato è unico nel panorama musicale italiano, non trovi nessuno in Italia che scrive e compone come lui. Egli è assolutamente atipico e complesso nei testi, che sono spesso adornati di introspezione, crisi esistenziale, crisi spirituale e tanta conoscenza generale e religiosa. Voce non potente ma unica nelle modulazioni. La bellezza delle melodie e la sua specificità vocale è il motivo del successo avuto in Italia durante la sua intera carriera. In Italia solo un altro autore ha rivelato una tale complessità, Fabrizio De Andrè, il quale era molto diverso nella musicalità rispetto a Battiato.
Great pick! Don't know why but Kate Bush crossed my mind while listening to this album. He is using that choir in few songs like Kate Bush did with Trio Bulgarka in The Sensual World album. I love his unique voice and the ambience he creates in his music.
SEI UN GRANDE
One of the best record from Italy. Franco Battiato is called maestro and he was very popular in Europe specially in Spain and Greece. He miss us so much ❤️
Well, this was definitely unexpected! Never I would have imagined to hear Battiato (With a full album nonetheless!) on your channel, Justin. I like him very much, to me he is the Italian David Bowie (Conceptually more than music-wise). I highly recommend his first albums Fetus and Pollution, a sort of prog rock/proto-electronica synthesis, as well as his "real" first pop/synthpop LP L'Era Del Cinghiale Bianco, which preceded La Voce Del Padrone by two years
excellent reaction (as always)! La Voce del Padrone (translated The Master's Voice) is a classic and very beloved Italian album. Easily Battiato's best (although there are other great ones).
Recommendation for another full album reaction: Moonmadness by Camel
Ty Fabry!
masterpiece
That was equal parts cheesy and fascinating. I have to admit I was thoroughly entertained throughout by it.
Justin, if you don't get bored I would like to write you a summary of the immense career of Maestro Franco Battiato, Sicilian like me and always one of my favorite artists, together with King Crimson and Pink Floyd. Franco worked and studied with Stockhausen, studied the German and French experimental musicians of the early 70s, played with giants such as Gavin Harrison (porcupine tree, pink floyd), Tony Levin, Jakko Jakszic (King Crimson again), Holger Czukai ( Can).....his musicians are always at the top and in his 40 year career he has crossed so many genres that it is a pleasure to discover his discography. When you read his texts keep in mind that Battiato is a mystic, interested in philosophy and committed to the liberation of the oppressed. A great man. I repeat: if you like, I'll write you a short guide to the Maestro's discography (in Sicily and Italy we simply call him that, "The Maestro".... but he obviously hated this nickname! 😁) Beautiful reaction, congratulations for your channel!
P.S. This album is the third of a great trilogy, called "the pop trilogy" (L'era del cinghiale bianco, Patriots e La voce del padrone)
Personalmente, mi piacerebbe che tu facessi questa breve biografia, dato che sono un grande ammiratore del suo lavoro ed è sempre molto piacevole leggere di lui e scoprire nuovi aspetti sconosciuti della sua vita. Un saluto dalla Spagna.
@@Nidels se sei spagnolo (,o italiano trasferitosi in Spagna?)....complimenti, fantastico italiano! Si, la faccio con piacere, mi servirà un po' di tempo perché nei prossimi giorni/settimane sono un po' incasinato tra lavoro ed altro, ma quanto prima la pubblico qui,, come risposta al post
@@arnesaknussemm7294 Sono spagnolo.
well how about that! I only ever heard "I Treni di Tozeur". Never too late I guess
Happy NY!
The first track was giving me 'Future Islands' vibes (apart from the vocals of course)
La differenza è che questo disco è stato fatto 40 anni fa...
I would recommend Giuni Russo - Energie. Produced by Franco Battiato an Alberto Radius.
love how Giuni's voice is mixed with their sounds. Very avant-garde and a little bit similar to Nina Hagen.
Battiato's lyrics are hard to understand even for us italians.... Nevertheless, one of the best singers and songwriters we ever had...
Completamente
Non è semplice ascoltare Battiato, la sua musica e i suoi testi non sono semplici da capire e apprezzare per noi italiani figuriamoci se non sei madrelingua
Grazie 🙏🏻
I know a bit of time has passed since this video was posted, but I found it funny that not long before you posted it I actually made a full translation of Bandiera Bianca, the second song you listened to. I share it here hoping you'll see it considering most internet translations can be tricky. I tried my best to also keep the musicality and to convey the meaning, which is a bit complex
Mr Tambourine Man, I don't feel like playing around
Let's put our shirts back on, because the times they are a-changing
We are children of the stars,
descendents of His Highness The Money
Luckily, my racism doesn't let me watch
those idiotic TV broadcasts made of electoral tribunes
And you want to drown your body in perfumes and deodorants
you look like sinking quicksands stripped bare
There are people who wear shades
to look more charismatic and symptomatically mysterious
How difficult it is to remain fathers
when the children get older and the mothers whiter
How many sleazy characters roaming in this country
how depressing is one's life inside of abuses of power
(Chorus)
Upon the bridge a white flag is waving,
Upon the bridge a white flag is waving (X2)
To Beethoven and Sinatra I prefer a salad
To Vivaldi eating rasins that give me more nutrients
How difficult it is to remain calm and indifferent
while everyone around you is making noise
In this time of crazy people, the idiots of horror were just what we needed
I've heard gunshots in a street downtown
how many dumb chickens bickering about nothing
(Minima Immoralia, Minima Immoralia)
And most of all, submerged by musical rubbish
Appreciate you putting in that effort g4ppy! Thank you for that
A little note. In the Spanish version the phrase says:
How difficult it is to continue "being" a father
When the son grows up and the mothers get old. A hug.
Without understanding the words it has less sense to listen to Battiato. He's very ironic, caustic towards tradition and often uses fragments of old songs in a dadaist function.
'Let me tell you about Sweden. Only country where the clouds are interesting'.
Yes we need some more Stranglers for the new year
@@musicdroog7666 Thanks for the recognition! 👍
@@musicdroog7666 Gonna drop a lyric every couple of days. Some will pick up, not so much The prog king!
From the comments it sounds like those of us who don't know Italian are missing quite a lot of this, but, taken as synth pop (with some nice features you don't normally get from that) it's a pretty good album.
If you want to hear something good (but very different), you might want to listen to the first five minutes or so of the Steve Morse interview Rick Beato has just done, where he plays an introductory piece, using a magic guitar. czcams.com/video/_Jxp9k72M1c/video.html
I believe it's because anglo-pop has lost touch with other kinds of traditions and thought it could survive by itself.
I mean, I've been relistening to the sweedish sung album that Fryda Hyvonnen has in the last weeks and you think: had she made that album in English and it could reach worldwide recognition. It's pop but so rich and diverse you won't find easily in the mainstream pop...
@@Eduardo-Ferreira1982 To my ears the anglo-pop of recent years has lost touch with just about everything, at least as far as "radio music" goes.
That's OK, though. There's a nice, big world out there, and plenty of music (which consumers of at least some anglo-pop are managing to find through things like CZcams.)
From what I read in the comments, as far as this artist goes, his lyrics are very important, and tended to be current, so requiring a knowledge of Italian, and also what was going on in Italy at the time. I was able to enjoy it without that (we often make do without the context).
Yes, the music has a lot more than you get in a "standard dose of pop". Anyone not hearing that here is just not listening. And it's the music that matters most in the end. Lyrics are always just a bonus to me. I'm happy to forgive lyrics I don't find irritating, and that's about where my expectations rest as far as that goes.
Battiato is great but I’m not sure his songs can appeal to non-Italian listeners, he’s unlike anyone else, totally
Suggestion:
Ange / album: Émile Jacotey
Yes, Ange he has to explore. Emile Jacotey is a good suggestion.
Great to hear you listening to a non-English language artist. Can I suggest a Turkish artist, Cem Karaca, Öbür Dünya, the 1973 version with Moğollar? it's a great introduction to Anatolian rock by one of its greatest voices?
Or Erkin Korai 1971 album. Or Selda first two albums. Impossible not to be amused.. 😊
@@Eduardo-Ferreira1982 I love Selda Bağcan. Fantastic voice. Yaz Gazeteci, Yaz' or 'Ince Ince bir Kar Yağar' are excellent.
@@boq780_2.0 As you might imagine I don't know which songs are these at this moment (got to check them) but Selda is great. She is a National treasure. She should be international too.
@@boq780_2.0 I went back, now I know what the songs are. Both from her 76 album, if I'm not mistaken. I also love - perhaps even more - her soft sad ballads previous to her first album. They should be available internationally too (only singles, aren't they? Put together on two compilations, as far as I know)
Ecco come ti fa sentire la musica di Battiato Estasi
Better not hide this in the usual manner (21 hours later). For a song with lyrics made entirely of Beatles titles you might enjoy *Song for Elliot* by Roman band *Sterbus* . I'm pretty sure Emanuele Sterbini must have taken the idea from the "Beatles part" of this. (He also often uses the "pop, but with spices" idea when making an album, himself.) czcams.com/video/1WE7r8CM7iw/video.html
And now back to the record to see if I'll be disturbed again.
Many influences and interesting lyrics perhaps, but not very listenable for me. Thanks for the opportunity, JP.
For reasons long forgotten, I've acquired two copies of his debut 'Fetus' and one of his second 'Pollution'. They're not very good either. I think that I was persuaded that he was a forerunner of RPI bands like Banco and PFM. He wasn't. What you suggest is a catchy chorus, Justin, is the very worst sort of Euro-cheesy disco. No thanks.
Franco Battiato has never really done a disco. The greatest representative of Italian disco music or Italodisco is Giorgio Moroder, to whom Daft Punk made a magnificent tribute in their song Giorgio and Moroder.
I quite like and recommend both Fetus and Pollution. Very much enjoying this one so far as well. This second track reminding me of Sergey Kuryokhin's cheesy pop stuff, which I also enjoy.
@@Nidels Giorgio Moroder was indeed, the best type of Euro disco. I was thinking more of the horrors that were Baccara, Silver Convention, Amanda Lear, Cerrone. Awful, awful cheesy stuff that regularly made the UK charts in the late 70s and were directly responsible for Brexit. 😁
@@kenl2091 Man hahaha I don't think they caused Brexit. Hey... but I still really like Amanda Lear. Well... it was what was popular at that time. The same thing also happened with disco music in the US. And yes... Baccara were a little cheesy hahaha
I think Fetus and Pollution are great albums, and I think they belong in the same league as the most important Banco and Area works. They have a hint of electronic music more than classic Italian prog bands, but it's a nice blend, I think
Great thanks for that and don’t be surprised to discover alternative rock from Italy ..Eugenio Finardi for example bye