FYI Jin-Gitaxias doesn't see the spells cast from chapter 3 of The Great Synthesis. The spells are cast as a part of the ability resolution, and the saga only exiles and returns after all the spells have been cast (but before they resolve).
As Foretold is definitely under rated, especially with even a little bit of proliferate effects. It's basically free counter spells on each of your opponents turns.
Nice idea! there are so many good enchantments in red/blue that I always wanted to run, originally I tried Keranos for the commander but Obika is a really good fit, much more explosive.
An interesting (budget) replacement for Rhystic Study that i've found is [[Insight]]. It's definitely worse, but in an average pod, there is usually a green player to feed the card draw, and you don't annoy the table with the "do you pay the 1". really cool decklist tho
I created the other version of this and loved it, but yes it's a bit hated in the play group so I don't play it anymore. I'll definitely give this a try
I love Ovika too I challenged myself to make the deck with 0 creatures outside of Ovika but I might have to give this version a spin it looks like great fun
Your video reminded me that I had a similar experience! I was feeling that my standard Ovika spellslinger deck was too consistent and hence too strong for my playgroup. So I also decided to rebuild it into more of a gimmicky deck: Ovihicles, an Ovika deck centered around vehicles. It's actually very fun and pretty decent, although it comes with a few intricacies you have to play around, like the goblins you create off casting your vehicles entering with haste but the vehicle itself not having haste. Additionaly in the last few sets there were always a few new vehicles fitting the color identity, so the decks keeps evolving.
I just wanted to say thank you for the recommendation of Hurkyl, Master Wizard! I've been working on an esper enchantment deck with the new Arna Kennerud in Moxfield, and primarily wanted it focused on Auras, enchantments and counters. It's been a tough balance figuring out how many 'modification spells' I should include, while keeping the gas on. I still carry my mana rocks for ramp, so there's no short supply of artifacts with the enchantments in tow. A consistent draw card, that allows me to sift through the top five cards for selection in the moment is great for curating, and I could (If I'm reading it right), pull up sorceries etc that I happen to cast that turn as well if I'm lucky. I've been trying to find card draw that isn't just mesa enchantress, that just sits back and does nothing-- but forwards the deck whenever I happen to draw it, given the colour spread available. This card looks like a good fit! I already have the usual culprits, like pearl-ear, sram and kor spiritdancer that handle the casting side along with auras that draw. Breena and Raffine have been alternative methods to draw, while modifying the counters for doubling. Recently found you last week, been loving the vids! :) Will be tuning in for the next~
Been watching and you're building some great decks with unique cards. I also feel like I'm learning a lot even though I'm an experienced EDH player. For example Exchange of Words is hilarious and potently powerful.
god i love ovika! ive built it like 4 different times and every time, its a blaasssst. my favorite is a ton of mana rocks and then big splashy spells that i tend to rotate out
I'm surprised you're using manaform hellkite...it not only doesn't trigger your commander when you cast it, but if you're discounting your spells (like with as foretold, sunbirds, cascade, etc) it is not very useful as it only makes a dragon as big as the amount of mana actually spent rather than the straight mana value. Also, recommendations: Struggle for Project Purity - obviously not as good as Rhystic, but a great budget replacement that doesn't generate nearly as much hate. Connect the Dots - Functions similarly to Tamiyo's draw mechanic as it triggers for each goblin you attack with (which means it can also pile up over the course of a couple turns if your board state is struggling). Lost in the Maze - Instant speed, clears blockers, lets you make as many goblins as you want, and can protect your board.
Part of me is looking at swapping Phyrexian alter (mainly because I don't have one) for an Artificer Class since it should be able to get me a mana rock and to start copying my mana rocks. Normally most people I play against don't target it until I have like 10 sol rings. Also Court of Emberth seems like it could deal with opponents if you stay the monarch
i've been looking for inspiration to build my first commander deck (i only own two precons right now) and i clicked on this video because the thumbnail seemed interesting. i probably won't build this specific deck, but i wanted to ask since it seems like you have some experience: how do you come up with an effective, unique, original idea for a deck? i don't want to scroll through edhrec's most popular commanders and just build an average netdeck, but i'm having a hard time getting the ball rolling with a single commander/archetype/ability/engine/etc. to build around? any advice? or any resources you could point me to?
I was working on a custom commander for Izzet enchantments, then they printed ole boy here and I felt like the custom commander was no longer necessary. This guy is crazy
I might have to build this deck lol (after I finish building my Nekusar, Henzie and Norin decks), I was never interested in enchantress decks, the ones I've seen are always some Sythis deck, but this one got me interested, I was already interested in Ovika before, but this looks like a fun and different deck. Just wondering if I can break the "yeah trust me dude, this is not like the others" when people see Ovika, but we'll see
I'd like to ask how much success you've had with Mirage Mirror? What has been the best use of it? Have you ever copied an actual enchantress for card draw?
I am pretty sure Jin gitaxias does not draw you cards on the spells you cast on his 3rd chapter. You cast the spells and THEN flipp him back. His frontside is there when they resolve but not while casting
Heeeey lookie that im no longer the only enchantress storm ovika player now, wonder if ya put the sluggishness with a ruby medallion and a skirk prospector or any sac outlet that makes you red, theres so many auras that go back to hand when hitting the grave, so many ways for infinite gobos
Saw the list, lowkey, id try to find room for skirk prospector, Thermopod. For auras Draconic Destiny, fiery Mantle, Sluggishness, these go infinite with ovika and a cost reducer and are in theme for enchantress
Jin is to slow, better run omnisience instead, you prob also need more effective card draw, i use faerie mastermind or sea gate restauration for more draw and handsize, and city on fire with goblin bombardment should be in here aswel tbh
This doesn’t feel like an enchantress deck as it feels like a permanents only gimmick deck. I was hoping to see any type of enchantments matters cards 😢 That said, I’m all for playing the game on hardmode by imposing novel restrictions on deckbuilding and have done so with over a dozen Ovika lists. A a fan of Ovika, I’m a fan of the list, just not within the enchantress context
"You had my interest, but now, you have my attention"
FYI Jin-Gitaxias doesn't see the spells cast from chapter 3 of The Great Synthesis. The spells are cast as a part of the ability resolution, and the saga only exiles and returns after all the spells have been cast (but before they resolve).
I was just going to comment about this. I learned this the hard way while playing my deck with him as the commander.
Yep. If you got a Jin copy though, it will see every spell you cast with chapter 3.
I think invasion of segovia would go crazy in this deck
Invasion of Segovia is my favorite secret tech. People don't realize how powerful convoke is when it's stapled onto non-convoke cards.
As Foretold is definitely under rated, especially with even a little bit of proliferate effects. It's basically free counter spells on each of your opponents turns.
I see Ovika, i click
@14:44 yes i had a shark typhoon i had to remove exactly for this reason in my ovika as well.
Nice idea! there are so many good enchantments in red/blue that I always wanted to run, originally I tried Keranos for the commander but Obika is a really good fit, much more explosive.
An interesting (budget) replacement for Rhystic Study that i've found is [[Insight]]. It's definitely worse, but in an average pod, there is usually a green player to feed the card draw, and you don't annoy the table with the "do you pay the 1". really cool decklist tho
I created the other version of this and loved it, but yes it's a bit hated in the play group so I don't play it anymore. I'll definitely give this a try
Got that other list?
I’ve been holding off building an Ovika deck for a while now; this is just the inspiration I needed to finally do it!
You've inspired me to finally build my Izzet Familiar deck with Red Lizard and Blue Bird.
Literally started making an izzet enchantress deck ever since they revealed Bria from Bloomburrow. Will be taking notes!
I love Ovika too I challenged myself to make the deck with 0 creatures outside of Ovika but I might have to give this version a spin it looks like great fun
Top content. Top content creator. Really enjoying your channel. Your style and your ideas are great
This is amazing. Love the content.
I have a typical Ovika deck. But now I kinda wanna play this!
This was my first build fo Ovika. No one expects it, but one Kindred Discovery into a City on Fire and everyone starts groaning and burning.
Your video reminded me that I had a similar experience! I was feeling that my standard Ovika spellslinger deck was too consistent and hence too strong for my playgroup. So I also decided to rebuild it into more of a gimmicky deck: Ovihicles, an Ovika deck centered around vehicles. It's actually very fun and pretty decent, although it comes with a few intricacies you have to play around, like the goblins you create off casting your vehicles entering with haste but the vehicle itself not having haste. Additionaly in the last few sets there were always a few new vehicles fitting the color identity, so the decks keeps evolving.
I just wanted to say thank you for the recommendation of Hurkyl, Master Wizard! I've been working on an esper enchantment deck with the new Arna Kennerud in Moxfield, and primarily wanted it focused on Auras, enchantments and counters. It's been a tough balance figuring out how many 'modification spells' I should include, while keeping the gas on. I still carry my mana rocks for ramp, so there's no short supply of artifacts with the enchantments in tow. A consistent draw card, that allows me to sift through the top five cards for selection in the moment is great for curating, and I could (If I'm reading it right), pull up sorceries etc that I happen to cast that turn as well if I'm lucky. I've been trying to find card draw that isn't just mesa enchantress, that just sits back and does nothing-- but forwards the deck whenever I happen to draw it, given the colour spread available. This card looks like a good fit! I already have the usual culprits, like pearl-ear, sram and kor spiritdancer that handle the casting side along with auras that draw. Breena and Raffine have been alternative methods to draw, while modifying the counters for doubling.
Recently found you last week, been loving the vids! :) Will be tuning in for the next~
Very creative build, I love it!
Been watching and you're building some great decks with unique cards. I also feel like I'm learning a lot even though I'm an experienced EDH player. For example Exchange of Words is hilarious and potently powerful.
So happy to hear that!
I'm glad you like ovika it was the first commander deck I built myself. I think the enchantress idea is neat but seems incredibly slow.
god i love ovika! ive built it like 4 different times and every time, its a blaasssst. my favorite is a ton of mana rocks and then big splashy spells that i tend to rotate out
I'm surprised you're using manaform hellkite...it not only doesn't trigger your commander when you cast it, but if you're discounting your spells (like with as foretold, sunbirds, cascade, etc) it is not very useful as it only makes a dragon as big as the amount of mana actually spent rather than the straight mana value.
Also, recommendations:
Struggle for Project Purity - obviously not as good as Rhystic, but a great budget replacement that doesn't generate nearly as much hate.
Connect the Dots - Functions similarly to Tamiyo's draw mechanic as it triggers for each goblin you attack with (which means it can also pile up over the course of a couple turns if your board state is struggling).
Lost in the Maze - Instant speed, clears blockers, lets you make as many goblins as you want, and can protect your board.
love the warhammer setup you got there. jealous
I would love to see your approach with artifacts, I'm working on a mana rocks tribal budget deck with a bunch of card draw to get to my wincons.
Thank you for your service! This is delicious 🤤
My thoughts on Shark Typhoon are the same. I had it in a few decks before I built Ovika. It was a struggle to use.
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Also I love Ovika, but once she's online, it's basically over
Awesome idea!
I tried playing Ovika / Iconoclast with Artifacts. Will have to look at doing this with Enchantmente
This is hilarious and cool, about the most interesting thing since I heard about Magar but no creatures. And I built that, it rules.
Part of me is looking at swapping Phyrexian alter (mainly because I don't have one) for an Artificer Class since it should be able to get me a mana rock and to start copying my mana rocks. Normally most people I play against don't target it until I have like 10 sol rings. Also Court of Emberth seems like it could deal with opponents if you stay the monarch
Also The Sound of Drums has to be one of my favorite recent time red enchantments for surprise damage
Have you thought about brudiclad in your deck list?
Estimated cost 570dollar. Puh my decks tend to be in the 200 bucks range.
Casts tranquility* watches you seeth and loathe*
i've been looking for inspiration to build my first commander deck (i only own two precons right now) and i clicked on this video because the thumbnail seemed interesting. i probably won't build this specific deck, but i wanted to ask since it seems like you have some experience: how do you come up with an effective, unique, original idea for a deck? i don't want to scroll through edhrec's most popular commanders and just build an average netdeck, but i'm having a hard time getting the ball rolling with a single commander/archetype/ability/engine/etc. to build around? any advice? or any resources you could point me to?
I was working on a custom commander for Izzet enchantments, then they printed ole boy here and I felt like the custom commander was no longer necessary. This guy is crazy
But how do you survive until you're able to cast Ovika?
Saw the sweater and my first thought was, “Huh, looks like the Country Club version of a wife-beater shirt”.
I’m sorry.
Thanks
I might have to build this deck lol (after I finish building my Nekusar, Henzie and Norin decks), I was never interested in enchantress decks, the ones I've seen are always some Sythis deck, but this one got me interested, I was already interested in Ovika before, but this looks like a fun and different deck. Just wondering if I can break the "yeah trust me dude, this is not like the others" when people see Ovika, but we'll see
Love me some Henzie. It's gonna be a good time.
I'd like to ask how much success you've had with Mirage Mirror? What has been the best use of it? Have you ever copied an actual enchantress for card draw?
I am pretty sure Jin gitaxias does not draw you cards on the spells you cast on his 3rd chapter. You cast the spells and THEN flipp him back. His frontside is there when they resolve but not while casting
Ha i made this deck type as well a while back
Heeeey lookie that im no longer the only enchantress storm ovika player now, wonder if ya put the sluggishness with a ruby medallion and a skirk prospector or any sac outlet that makes you red, theres so many auras that go back to hand when hitting the grave, so many ways for infinite gobos
Saw the list, lowkey, id try to find room for skirk prospector, Thermopod. For auras Draconic Destiny, fiery Mantle, Sluggishness, these go infinite with ovika and a cost reducer and are in theme for enchantress
Jin is to slow, better run omnisience instead, you prob also need more effective card draw, i use faerie mastermind or sea gate restauration for more draw and handsize, and city on fire with goblin bombardment should be in here aswel tbh
INTERESTING !
but so expensive...
just having rhystic is a NO for me.... NO RHYSTIC. ITS A BAN FOR ME. :)
This doesn’t feel like an enchantress deck as it feels like a permanents only gimmick deck. I was hoping to see any type of enchantments matters cards 😢
That said, I’m all for playing the game on hardmode by imposing novel restrictions on deckbuilding and have done so with over a dozen Ovika lists. A a fan of Ovika, I’m a fan of the list, just not within the enchantress context
Please put a shirt on so I can pay attention to what you're saying
People sleep on 'noncreature'
I wasn't listening to the whole video. Great watch though.
I genuinely hate how much I want to build this deck. In a good way.
I love a good Izzet spellslinger and Selesnia enchantress deck, maybe its time to flip those around