Suguri's beautiful freeskate at the 2006 Winter Olympics in Torino. Music is Piano Concerto No.2 by Rachmaninoff. She placed 4th overall. (English NBC commentary; higher resolution)
Fumie doesn' t have great positions or step sequences, but she moves my emotions with her speed, artistic expression, grit and jumps and that is something that doesn't happen often. Well done. She shows her soul when she skates.
I' m So glad to see the comments to cheer up Ms. Fumie Suguri 's performance. Recent her skating is not good for ages compare to this , But I respect her challenges. Her spins are So speedy, and another choreograph are So attractive, I really respect to be a many Japanese skateers' model. And Thank U So much to have good coments toMs. Fumie Suguri .
HERMOSO PROGRAMA Fumie merecia,desde mi perspectiva una medalla Si no hubiera doblado el 3flip (de su segunda combinación) SIN DUDAS hubiera estado en el podio. Es una de las grandes patinadoras del periodo comprendido entre los Juegos de Salt Lake City y Torino, junto a Irina Slutskaya y Michelle Kwan Lamentablemente sus ultimas temporadas no fueron buenas. Si ella sigue compitiendo, será la unica gran figura de ese periodo aún en competencia, ya que las demás al parecer se retiraron ¡Fuerza!
The adding of a level 4 before this season (with such strict requirements to reach level 4 compared to what it is now) and having four spins did Fumie no favors as it forced her to work against her strengths. Compare this simplistic routine to Fumie's past programs (like her brilliant Carmen the year prior) and you'll see how the new technical demands affected her. It's a shame this LP turned out the way it did as Fumie was known to be quite artistic and musical as evidenced by her SP.
BINGO, hit the nail in the head, one thing I've always lappreciated about her is her consistency,, she was always on the podium during the golden Age of figure skating. To be sharing the podium consistently with legends like Michelle Kwan and Irina Slutskaya is a testament to Fumies fighting heart and competitive mindset, for me she's one of the best.
The reason why Fumie couldn’t take the Bronze medal was that Slutskaya had a less stellar performance due to vascular problems, but she was brave enough to hold on. And yes, it was at times life threatening.
Watch Fumie's performances just a month later at 2006 Worlds - her spins were a lot better there. That was her problem at these Olympics...her spins being weaker than the top 3 ladies meant that she was losing those technical points AND the impact of her performances was a bit lessened as a result of the spins not having enough "WOW" factor.
I thought this was really good... I dont know what the commentators are talking about. She skated much better than sasha and deserved to be on podium .Sasha and Irina fell and one of them should have been off the podium
Haikal Danial And sk8ingcoach1 well, it counts as a deduction though it doesn’t mean an automatic disqualification. A multiple chain of falls throughout the program should automatically disqualify the skater when it is done intentionally since it often result from a combination of using poor techniques, lack of practice and poor coaching skills by the coach of the skater. A case of the nerves is not often the reason for the skater to perform poorly. It is often the result of using poor techniques and the lack of practice. One can start a skate with confidence and determination , but a simple fall often makes a skater very nervous.
she did score higher than slutskaya, but she wasnt robbed. the overall scores has both the SP and the FS. Irina was 5 points ahead of Fumie going into the the free skate. in the overall score, slutskaya did enough to stay in 3rd place, but it was close.
Sasha deserved Silver. Her performance was far more detailed and far-reaching, her Spiral is immensely better, and her Spins are much better. Even though Sasha made two big mistakes on the jumps she still wasn't far behind Fumie in that area either because her jump layout was harder and Fumie did double one of her Triples.
How about both programs she skated here, particularly her short program. She DESERVEDLY received the highest program component score, with 8.00s on interpretation. Also, her Malaguena SP from 2004 and her Swan Lake FS stand out as highlights to me, as well as her 2002 Olympic Short Program to My Sweet and Tender Beast. Suguri's technical mastery here is obvious, especially the jumping, but she is far from the Top 2 on artistry, and honestly, behind Slutskaya too.
@idolfan9495 She did not skate clean. She doubled her triple flip. Irina and Sasha each had 2 mistakes over the 2 programs, so to say Fumie deserved a medal is to say Fumie is less than 1 mistake close to being the skater Irina and Sasha are over 2 programs which is not the case.
it seems to me that she's more into 'ticking the boxes' rather than delivering a performance. Although she did all the jumps, there wasn't a wow factor in her program. I'm sorry she didn't win a medal, but it seems like an accurate judgement..
StewNT Let us put it this way as to how Sasha ended up waaayyyy ahead of Suguri: While Cohen did a 3F2T, 3T Steps into3S, and 3S on the second half, Suguri did a wonderful 3L, 2F2T, 3T, and a squeaked out 2A. Plus, if you tell me that Cohen's Spins and Spirals weren't superior to Suguri's, plus, their grade of execution, you may have to see both performances side-by-side. Did you notice that Suguri did the same spins? 1 Sit Spin, 1 Flying Sit Spin 1 Camel-Combo Spin, 1 Flying-Camel Combo Spin all of them in the same positions. As a matter of fact, 1 thru 4 placements, had the same number of jumps, except Arakawa and Suguri didn't fall. However, out of the four ladies, Suguri had the weakest spins, positions, transitions, and lower PC.
Argue? If you feel that Suguri had better overall packaging than Cohen; then that's personal opinion. I thought someone may like a clarification as to why or how come. If still unsure, I'm sure CZcams has the tv explanation of who won what part of the segment and how Suguri faired against the Top 3 ladies. Thanks.
Sasha and slutskaya were in the panic from their falls and they were going "my goodness! not now!" and messed up rest of the program. Sasha fell twice, Slutskaya fell and her last spin travelled so badly. Fumie wasn't my favorite, and I expected Sasha and Slutskaya to win. Afterall, figure skating should be a sport. PCS and GOE should've been valued less than TES.
@lichiyeordiastro Sure, she has the right to, no doubt about that. I'm just wondering if she really WANTS to go on, because she looks so unhappy when she skates. I mean look at her, she's so different from, say, the 2002-2003 season. I'm not saying she should retire because she's mediocre, I'm just saying she needs to find the love for the sport again. She looks so miserable now, and it's not that pleasant to watch, don't you think? Thank you for your opinion though! ^__^
Overall a great performance, but watching it again I can see the reason why she did not make the podium. Things went a little downhill after she got her second triple lutz out of the way: doubling out of the triple flip, a couple shaky landings, and her straight line footwork seemed to lack passion and finesse. I agree with Dick's remarks about some of the spin positions and her spiral sequence is just not there! She might have been able to sneak into a medal position if she had landed that second triple flip with a +GOE, but it looks like she ran out of steam... Nevertheless, 4th in the Olympics is a remarkable achievement!
The only person who Robbed Fumie was Lori Nichol. Fumie has speed flow, technique and a great feeling for the music, YET Lori gave her NO choreography, there was nothing wow about her performance, despite the fact that she went clean, at the olym,pics. The judges would have had to give her the medal had she any sprt of a complete program...but she didn't! Lori should be jailed for this!
@rbred378 I totally agree, her spins, spirals, her arms...the quality's just not there. And she wants to keep competing.....gosh, she has no artistry at all, and now her jumps are all gone. She REALLY needs to retire.
@wobbles610 Actually Sasha has terrible skating skills. She is slow and has weak edges. Suguri is better than Sasha in that area for sure. However Sasha is better in most other things.
![[HD] 村主章枝 Fumie Suguri 2002 SLC Olympics FS - Moonlight Sonata 月光 ソルトレイクシティ五輪](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/-vbKVaOPaIA/mqdefault.jpg)
完璧な演技とジャンプの高さ、回転、そして一番好きなのは表現力です。
顔の表情もすごく好き。
フィギュアスケートに関連した世界にずっといてほしい人です。
この時、村主さんは惜しくも４位でメダルには届きませんでした。
対して荒川さんは、トリノオリンピックで唯一の金メダルを手にして、さぞ悔しかっただろうと思います。
それでも村主さんの演技の美しさは、いつ見ても唯一無二の素晴らしさだと感じます。
このラフマニノフが1番好きです‼︎
最後のスピンが最高‼︎
最後のスピンすごいよね！！！
この演技をリアルタイムで観てました。
フィギュアスケートで感動して涙が出たのは後にも先にもこの時だけでした。
今までこの村主さんの滑りを超える演技は私の中ではまだ出て来ません。
素晴らしく今でも何回も見返してます。
Have you ever enjoy Michelle kwan's performance ?
真央ちゃんと同じ曲、同じ佐藤コーチ！
村主さんも真央ちゃんも、それぞれの良さが出ていて、どちらのラフマニノフも大好きです♡
真央のラフマニノフと章枝のラフマニノフは構成内容や難易度に違いこそあれどそれぞれの魂の滑りがあってどちらもそれぞれの色が出ているな
素敵な演技なだけに新採点方に対応できなかったのが悔やまれる...
荒川さんは演技はもちろん新採点方の対策が凄かった...
当時、この演技をDVDに録画して何度も見てた
スケートなんてしたことないのに、ただただ感動したんです
Her dress is so beautiful, one of the prettiest I've seen.
トリノの魔法はいつとけるのだろう…
How can anyone be as perfect as Fumie Suguri ?
Not just she is pretty...but she is SUPER wonderful when skating in front of people ! :D
このシーズンの始まりで股関節の大けがをして十分トレーニングを積めなかったのを覚えています。
それでも表彰台一歩手前まで力を戻してきて、本当にあと一歩だったと思います。
スタミナとスピードは他の選手に負けない選手だったけど、ケガのせいで調整は不十分だったのでしょう。
珍しく後半はスタミナが切れています、それでも表彰台目指して懸命に舞う姿は美しいです。
荒川さんは壮大なバイオリン曲が似合うけど、村主さんには繊細なピアノ曲が似合うと思います。
たられば論だけど、後半の2回転になってしまったフリップをちゃんと3回転で跳べて、3トゥーループ、2アクセル+2トゥーループを綺麗に着氷してGOEでもっと加点を貰えて完璧にまとめて、演技構成点も上がっていたら表彰台に上がっていたかもしれない…。トリノの魔法にかかることもなかったかもしれない…。
Fumie doesn' t have great positions or step sequences, but she moves my emotions with her speed, artistic expression, grit and jumps and that is something that doesn't happen often. Well done. She shows her soul when she skates.
I' m So glad to see the comments to cheer up Ms. Fumie Suguri 's performance.
Recent her skating is not good for ages compare to this ,
But I respect her challenges.
Her spins are So speedy, and another choreograph are So attractive,
I really respect to be a many Japanese skateers' model.
And Thank U So much to have good coments toMs. Fumie Suguri .
3フリップが本当に惜しかった
美しいです。
真央ちゃんは貴方のオマージュとして素晴らしい演技をしたよね。あなたがいて後のスケート界があったと思ってます。八歳の頃からずっとフィギアスケートだいすきでした。今のフィギアスケートの歴史を５０年前から見守っています。いまどうされてるのでしょうか？あの頃のあなたは不滅です。
HERMOSO PROGRAMA
Fumie merecia,desde mi perspectiva una medalla
Si no hubiera doblado el 3flip (de su segunda combinación) SIN DUDAS hubiera estado en el podio.
Es una de las grandes patinadoras del periodo comprendido entre los Juegos de Salt Lake City y Torino, junto a Irina Slutskaya y Michelle Kwan
Lamentablemente sus ultimas temporadas no fueron buenas. Si ella sigue compitiendo, será la unica gran figura de ese periodo aún en competencia, ya que las demás al parecer se retiraron ¡Fuerza!
If Irina were from any other country, she would never have won a major title. Fumie deserved the medal.
BINGO.
that spin at the end is the craziest thing i've ever seen
I don't understand how the bronze and silver medalists both fell and she ended up in fourth after skating two clean programs.
racism
@@starfox1 That and politics, US and Russian Feds got too much influence.
she deserved a medal, in Torino and Salt Lake too
Fumie should be 3rd ,but not 4th.
@idolfan9495
I agree, she should have got the bronze!
She didn't win a medal.
But her performance made me happy...
gotcha. Thank you
The adding of a level 4 before this season (with such strict requirements to reach level 4 compared to what it is now) and having four spins did Fumie no favors as it forced her to work against her strengths. Compare this simplistic routine to Fumie's past programs (like her brilliant Carmen the year prior) and you'll see how the new technical demands affected her. It's a shame this LP turned out the way it did as Fumie was known to be quite artistic and musical as evidenced by her SP.
BINGO, hit the nail in the head, one thing I've always lappreciated about her is her consistency,, she was always on the podium during the golden Age of figure skating. To be sharing the podium consistently with legends like Michelle Kwan and Irina Slutskaya is a testament to Fumies fighting heart and competitive mindset, for me she's one of the best.
この時代ってPCSが割と消極的な出し方だったし実績が大きかったよね
今みたいにPCS積極的に評価してくれてたら順位ガラッと変わってそう
wow she looks even younger these days
i hope she will win a medal in 2010
It is the same piece of music as Mao Asada used at the Olympics 2014!!! :)
Poor Fumie. She was cheated out of a medal at Torino. She skated her heart out and had two clean programs. She should have had bronze.
The reason why Fumie couldn’t take the Bronze medal was that Slutskaya had a less stellar performance due to vascular problems, but she was brave enough to hold on. And yes, it was at times life threatening.
@samanthacheng
I agree. At least the bronze.
衣装がすてき！
Watch Fumie's performances just a month later at 2006 Worlds - her spins were a lot better there. That was her problem at these Olympics...her spins being weaker than the top 3 ladies meant that she was losing those technical points AND the impact of her performances was a bit lessened as a result of the spins not having enough "WOW" factor.
4th? she was so close to 3rd!
очень зрелищное сильное артистичное катание просто молодец
I thought this was really good... I dont know what the commentators are talking about. She skated much better than sasha and deserved to be on podium .Sasha and Irina fell and one of them should have been off the podium
sk8ingcoach1 Falling doesn't automatically mean off the podium
Haikal Danial And sk8ingcoach1 well, it counts as a deduction though it doesn’t mean an automatic disqualification. A multiple chain of falls throughout the program should automatically disqualify the skater when it is done intentionally since it often result from a combination of using poor techniques, lack of practice and poor coaching skills by the coach of the skater. A case of the nerves is not often the reason for the skater to perform poorly. It is often the result of using poor techniques and the lack of practice. One can start a skate with confidence and determination , but a simple fall often makes a skater very nervous.
旧採点システムなら銅メダルだね
It's OLYMPICS.Sasha made 2 mistakes ,she didn't deserve a silver medal.
she did score higher than slutskaya, but she wasnt robbed. the overall scores has both the SP and the FS. Irina was 5 points ahead of Fumie going into the the free skate. in the overall score, slutskaya did enough to stay in 3rd place, but it was close.
Sasha deserved Silver. Her performance was far more detailed and far-reaching, her Spiral is immensely better, and her Spins are much better. Even though Sasha made two big mistakes on the jumps she still wasn't far behind Fumie in that area either because her jump layout was harder and Fumie did double one of her Triples.
@USAGymnast Which of the medalists was she better than in SLC. Sorry she was never a medal threat there.
How about both programs she skated here, particularly her short program. She DESERVEDLY received the highest program component score, with 8.00s on interpretation. Also, her Malaguena SP from 2004 and her Swan Lake FS stand out as highlights to me, as well as her 2002 Olympic Short Program to My Sweet and Tender Beast. Suguri's technical mastery here is obvious, especially the jumping, but she is far from the Top 2 on artistry, and honestly, behind Slutskaya too.
even 2nd !
@idolfan9495 She did not skate clean. She doubled her triple flip. Irina and Sasha each had 2 mistakes over the 2 programs, so to say Fumie deserved a medal is to say Fumie is less than 1 mistake close to being the skater Irina and Sasha are over 2 programs which is not the case.
she just deserved something everyone knows that sadly that never happens =S but she is a great skater am i right that 2008 is her last season?
I love Sasha Cohen but Fumie should be bronze medalist (or maybe silver) instead Sasha Cohen. Sasha shouldn´t be on podium
村主さんはもっとスピンのポジションの種類みたかったです。
Yep, she should've gotten a 120. She should've been in second place.
このできなら、村主が2位ですね。113点はあり得ない・・・。
ジャンプの難易度が低かった（３－３回転や３連続は無し）のと、
ステップ・スパイラル等でも、高得点が取れなかったのでね…
柔軟性が必要とされる、ビールマンスピンも出来ませんでしたし。
新採点方式が初めて採用されたトリノ冬季五輪での村主章枝選手に
とって、かなり不利な状況になったのは今でも不運過ぎて残念です。
taka 1972 この頃にI字スピンを習得していればね・・・
taka 1972 これもあるし、後半のトリプルトウループの回転不足も痛かったと思う
新採点方式に対するコーチ陣の対策の差なのかな。荒川陣営はそこをきっちり押さえて練習に取り入れてたって、後のドキュメントでやってた。村主の得点が出たとき、うちの一家はともかく、会場からもすげえブーイングが上がってたくらい、凄い出来だった。ホント残念。
3連続ナシ、体勢を変えながらのスピンも
必要な要素を獲得できませんでした。
この演技は素晴らしい。彼女にメダルをあげるべきだったよね。
it seems to me that she's more into 'ticking the boxes' rather than delivering a performance. Although she did all the jumps, there wasn't a wow factor in her program. I'm sorry she didn't win a medal, but it seems like an accurate judgement..
StewNT Let us put it this way as to how Sasha ended up waaayyyy ahead of Suguri: While Cohen did a 3F2T, 3T Steps into3S, and 3S on the second half, Suguri did a wonderful 3L, 2F2T, 3T, and a squeaked out 2A. Plus, if you tell me that Cohen's Spins and Spirals weren't superior to Suguri's, plus, their grade of execution, you may have to see both performances side-by-side. Did you notice that Suguri did the same spins? 1 Sit Spin, 1 Flying Sit Spin 1 Camel-Combo Spin, 1 Flying-Camel Combo Spin all of them in the same positions. As a matter of fact, 1 thru 4 placements, had the same number of jumps, except Arakawa and Suguri didn't fall. However, out of the four ladies, Suguri had the weakest spins, positions, transitions, and lower PC.
wow you did not really want to argue with someone who posted something 7 years ago. XD
Argue? If you feel that Suguri had better overall packaging than Cohen; then that's personal opinion. I thought someone may like a clarification as to why or how come. If still unsure, I'm sure CZcams has the tv explanation of who won what part of the segment and how Suguri faired against the Top 3 ladies. Thanks.
@USAGymnast
To say that Suguri has better skating skills and choreography than Sasha Cohen is laughable.
Robbed of a medal!
Sasha and slutskaya were in the panic from their falls and they were going "my goodness! not now!" and messed up rest of the program. Sasha fell twice, Slutskaya fell and her last spin travelled so badly. Fumie wasn't my favorite, and I expected Sasha and Slutskaya to win. Afterall, figure skating should be a sport. PCS and GOE should've been valued less than TES.
very beautiful but the flips could've been better. She had a mistake on one.
@lichiyeordiastro Sure, she has the right to, no doubt about that. I'm just wondering if she really WANTS to go on, because she looks so unhappy when she skates. I mean look at her, she's so different from, say, the 2002-2003 season. I'm not saying she should retire because she's mediocre, I'm just saying she needs to find the love for the sport again. She looks so miserable now, and it's not that pleasant to watch, don't you think? Thank you for your opinion though! ^__^
nope. I think that she would've won bronze if she had a little more height on her flips.
Overall a great performance, but watching it again I can see the reason why she did not make the podium. Things went a little downhill after she got her second triple lutz out of the way: doubling out of the triple flip, a couple shaky landings, and her straight line footwork seemed to lack passion and finesse. I agree with Dick's remarks about some of the spin positions and her spiral sequence is just not there! She might have been able to sneak into a medal position if she had landed that second triple flip with a +GOE, but it looks like she ran out of steam... Nevertheless, 4th in the Olympics is a remarkable achievement!
수구리 후미에가 쇼트와 프리 스핀 레벨만 3,4만 받았어도, 동메달이었을텐데.....프리 덤블링도 아쉽고.아마 구채점제였다면, 충분히 은메달!!
그러게요. 아라카와가 채점제 경향을 잘 파악해서 금을 땄다면, 수구리는 그런게 좀 부족했어요. 구체점제였다면 충분히 은 따고도 남았겠죠
The only person who Robbed Fumie was Lori Nichol. Fumie has speed flow, technique and a great feeling for the music, YET Lori gave her NO choreography, there was nothing wow about her performance, despite the fact that she went clean, at the olym,pics. The judges would have had to give her the medal had she any sprt of a complete program...but she didn't! Lori should be jailed for this!
sh did two lutzs
She was robbed of the bronze. There was doubt all over Cohen's face, and it reflected in her skating. Fumie was better.
真央ちゃんのラフマニノフ！！
村主さんも使ってたんですね！！
@rbred378 I totally agree, her spins, spirals, her arms...the quality's just not there. And she wants to keep competing.....gosh, she has no artistry at all, and now her jumps are all gone. She REALLY needs to retire.
@wobbles610 Actually Sasha has terrible skating skills. She is slow and has weak edges. Suguri is better than Sasha in that area for sure. However Sasha is better in most other things.
The way she moves... just not polished. Fumie does all the work but the quality is not the level of the top three...
今思うと、上半身の薄いパープルの色で、全部まとめて欲しかった😁
もっと濃い紫で統一したら、さらに素敵だったかも。
荒川さんと比べて、衣装のキラキラ感が少ない😓
完璧な演技は荒川さん、完璧ではないけど素晴らしい演技は村主さん、非常に残念な演技はスルツカヤさんとコーエンさんだったと思います。
素晴らしい演技だっただけに、村主さんは本当に残念でした。
Boring performance! So many years, she never improve, but
she enjoying by herself.
最悪だ
何が最悪？