Nissan 370z Intake Test Shootout!!! ADMINTUNING VS STILLEN VS Z1
Vložit
- čas přidán 23. 12. 2018
- Hold on tight and bring out the popcorn, this has been a video in the making for four months now. I have been dying to test and see which intakes make the most power. Which is why I've been running K&N drop in filters for the longest time now. I made this video to help inform the Z community the best way I possibly could.
Car parts on my 370Z
Intakes: www.z1motorsports.com/air-int...
Airguide: www.dewladezign.com/product-p...
Exhaust: www.thaitaniumperformance.com
--------------------FOR MORE JpCharisma GOODNESS!!!!!!!!!-------------------
Amazon wishlist: www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls...
FACEBOOK: / jpcharisma
INSTAGRAM: / jpcharisma
SNAPCHAT: @JpCharisma
TWITTER: / jpcharisma
OTHER CHANNEL: / @rainforest212 - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Numbers without the Dewla air guide were:
*Stillen* 323.75 WHP 265.24 TQ
*Z1* 323.23 WHP 266.37 TQ
*Admin* 322.46 WHP 265.34 TQ
great video thank you for your research to the z community!
z1 = no cutting of radiator support needed
But Z1 are not CA (CARB) compliant.
Is this with a tune ?
The admin intakes need a spec custom tune - with that it should bring higher number than the others.
Ryan Scanlan that doesn’t make any sense, how are you going to change one of the variables for only 1 of the intakes?
Really good comparative, I'm.gonna install *
Z1 intakes
Z1 all day
Keep up the hustle !!
Should have shown what the K&N drop ins were at
you're only 20 subs away from getting that ad revenue. keep hustling.
Hey bro nice video, would u recommend stillen light weight pulley
Heads up: For cleaning/refreshing - the K&N filter cleaner spray works wonders for those that live in the SW where you get that finer powder like sand in the air + the separate oil that comes in a can that you can spray from K&N (they do not come together in a kit). I've found that combo to work really well. I didn't like/enjoy the bottle of oil methodology (this is the cleaning kit)...so get the spray (they make you buy separately), as it's much easier to get even with using the correct amount in order to avoid any MAF issues down the road.
I drove through monument valley in a crazy wind storm (apocalypse mad max style!) - When I got home, the next day, popped the front bumper and both intakes were just covered. No amount of washing in the sink or even using a bucket/water method really got them super clean. Using the K&N spray cleaner, then letting them sit for about 15 mins, then back in the bucket with water = looked like new again!
Then let sit in sun to dry out for a hour or so, then hit with a light coat of K&N oil spray conditioner
I just replace it every 5k miles
Thanks for saving me a lot of time and money.
Thanks for this. I got the Z1 race intakes and we'll worth it. Easy to put in and you basically get the same results as everything else 🤙🏽
So much for admin lol such a hassle and big price. I had gen 3 but will get those Z1s
Nice bro 😍
Dude do the z1 3” intake sound better/louder than the stillen gen 3 ?
I have read some forums and people say the stillen gen 3 is actually a bit more quiet than the stock intakes?
Whats the exhaust setup on this car? Sounds awesome, I see a thaitanium right there in the passenger but what Y pipe or headers/test pipes u running bro
As said in the beginning of video
Stock headers
Thaitanium Performance Exhaust
Thaitanium Dual Resonated Y pipe
Berk Non resonated Test pipes
I wanted to know if you guys know any aftermarket struct bar that would fit The AdminTuning" LongTube Cold Air Intake Kit?
Thanks for the comparison . What CAI made the most power is what I said . Was that the Z1 Motorsports Race CAI or the Standard kit is what I said .
Anytime bro
The only thing keeping me from getting the admin is having to tune the car and cutting the core. I’ll most likely go for the Z1’s since they made the most torque and they’re the best bang for your buck.
More torque right wuich intake made more Hp
Rodrigo Guzman torque is more useable than HP... HP only matters in the top end, you aren’t maxing the speedo on the streets especially in an N/A vq.
Which is the best intake?
Unless you port the stock Throttlebodies from 60mm to 61mm or buy the daytona non oem with 70mm which is 2.75 inches you wont benefit too much from 3" intakes... you will still have the restriction from the throttlebodies mate :)
Ported throttle bodies won't make that much of a difference unless you change out that plastic manifold.
@@sleepervq605 Bingo - and even when doing that - I've seen all three of the following: gains, losses, no changes.... Is there a specific proven combo that you've found?
Just out of curiosity, did you do the 3 procedures for air volume and idle after each change?
We tuned each intake to make the most power accordingly without changing any variables that would cause the test to be false or mess its performance.
It shocking that so many from a "first world country" do not understand the principles detailed by Bernoulli. You go off buying intakes because a popular tuner sells them.
What wheel tyre combo you running 👍😎
Damnn son!!
Where did u get the tune?
So ... Basically the z1 intakes made the most power, we're the cheapest, and we're the easiest to install? Fuck yeah man, z1 for the win!
Yeap!!!!! The most difficult part about those intakes if removing the stupid stock "snorkus" things (there's one bolt that sorta blends in/easy to miss)
AAM R-Line is a nice setup too. I've run it on my 2015 Nismo over a year.
True we would have tested a set if they sent them to Z1
Have you had it dynoed with the aam setup?
No and honestly it won’t make much a difference all long tube intakes perform 99% relatively the same
@@il2rock i get 345
by r line , isr lth , 3 inch single exit. 93 gas.
Next year add e85
I’ve tried z1 and stillen gen 3 intakes, definitely good intake system, but it is a little bit more difficult and time consuming to install. One intake that I’m trying right now is the k&n air intake system with the heat shield, and tbh with you it’s actually quite good, because the heat shield does quite a good job, and there so much gap for air to flow in from the bottom.
Throw the K&N kit in the trash and go back to long tubes. I had the K&N and then switched to Z1. My oil temp was 5-7 degrees cooler and stayed lower when riding it hard. They make more power and they keep your car cooler. There's nothing beneficial to the K&N other than price. They heat soak quickly and then you're losing power.
Will I took them off because they were to good. The gains those long tube intake makes in my opinion requires a tune, and unfortunately I don’t live close to any tuner, so all I have is E-tuning only.
@@johnnyboi5661 If your tuner can't remote tune for the intakes, I'd find another tuner. Call Jon at Z1. He'll get you fixed up.
Which did u like better the stillen sir the z1?
What if u pair the stillen gen 3 or z1 with the velocity stack air intake upgrade from z1?
Good question but its been proven that Velocity stacks will increase power by 5WHP
I would like to see the z1 vs stillen with those velocity stacks pls make a video for that
I wouldn’t take the time to make a video of Stillen VS Z1 with velocity stacks. Unless it’s convenient for me. Since there is no significant difference in Horsepower between any intakes.
So, wait, you’re telling me that stock diameter intake and larger diameter intake produces about the same power without tuning (I’m aware scaling needed, but that’s not really a tune)?
I’m telling you comparing 3” vs 2.5” intakes power margins are insignificantly different. Ultimately debunking that 3” intakes perform better than 2.5”.
What you think it's the difference between this intakes from takeda afe long tube intakes?
Not much a difference when it comes to power for long tube intakes. Other than instillation, features, and sacrifices.
got set of Z1 intakes $100 local😬
Flames are just sexy never gets old😁👍
Thanks man!!!
What you need to do is create an after burner setup by drilling and tapping a port for an additional fuel injector that will spray fuel into the exhaust pipe just after the test pipe. The extra thrust will lower your 0 - 60 times and 1/4 mile E.T.s.
what. 😂
The z1motorsports intakes were regular and not race filters?
So there really isn't no performance difference just basically just choosing what brand you want?
Great video👍 definitely helped me decide what intakes im gonna go with. The pricing is ridiculous though when you think about what they're made of and the gains you get with them. Even $450 for the Z1s is crazy expensive for what they are. I mean if you didn't care about looks you coupd easily make your own set for probably less than $100.
How would you be able to make 2 intakes for less than 100$? Just in material/filter/maf flange you have more than 200-250$ + welding.
I just personally care about quality . and 450 isnt alot in my opinion
Would this relate to an 2008 350z hr as well?
Yes. I have an hr
Do i need to get my car tuned to run a Z1 intake , i daily drive my car
Not required
Yeah but no air filter ads 10hp
So all the intakes are within 5hp of each other, who knew? In other news water is wet..
No, all the intakes are within 1-2hp
@@JpCharisma even better. So that proves the vq37 is not intake flow limited.
@@nighthawk0077 Proves pipes are constrained in the same way. Doing a proper test with tunes and including the stock box would have told us something.
😂😂😂
Que hubole, quien anda hay
I'll do you all a solid. Want power and have a 350z or a 370?
Go Boost.
Every other bolt on is a waste of money and time. The VQ platform sucks with bolt ons. Save your money for boost or nitrous.
Tony M For 3-4 bolt ons,they make a decent amount of power. It’s not really a waste. But definitely force induction is the way to go!
@@fastingmedia1205 different opinion is all. I have a FBO 04 350z and i think for the money, i would have rather saved and gone boost.
Im running, Ebay test pipes, HKS exhaust, plenum spacer, jwt pop charger and still unturned.
Just putting that out there so no one thinks I dont know what im talking about
Tony M I would only recommend FBO on HR/VHR platforms. When it comes to DE’s I’d go boost.
@@fastingmedia1205 completely agree with you
@@licensetosend8551 I'd never take advice from anybody who buys Ebay parts😂 but, you have a DE, the red headed step child of the VQs. HRs and VHRs have shown to make a lot of power from bolt ons. There are several NA VHR cars out there putting well over stock crank numbers to the ground.
Can we get a list: {intake1: ###hp, intake2: ###hp, ...}?
Tune the timing and everything after the intakes, a proper tune not just slap them on and call it a day by doing a simple maf adjustment
I do not care for your opinion, each intake was tuned individually. To produce the perfect AFR’s. We did multiple dyno pulls. If you know anything about dyno numbers. Not every pull on the dyno will show consistent numbers. Since air temperatures and humidity levels fluctuate. A lot of tuners like to show false gains. By providing the lowest Dyno numbers for before and the highest numbers after. Making it easy to manipulate people into believing 3” intakes are better.
JpCharisma preachhhhh now question for you my guy should i go for velocity stacks first or the air guide??
@@sauceyyy_z7740 They both go hand and hand with each other. The Airguide will be a simple install and improve torque. While the velocity stack will require you to modify your crash bar.
What about Takeda?
Hello, I'm trying to find dyno number with similar mods as my car, right now I have ported upper&lower intake manifold, 09 maxima throttle bodies, air longtube intake, Kinetix HFC, my car made only 303whp and 271wtq...I seen people with exhaust system and air intake and it made 330whp, I think porting does nothing to the VQ37VHR
Your High flow cars are restricting power replace with test pipes. What year is your car?
@@JpCharisma 2012, though not much difference in terms of power HFC vs test pipes
It’s a significant difference, plus are you tuned?
@@JpCharisma Yes I am but I believe the tuner isn't very good...planning on getting remote tuning, because i have seen people with just exhaust setup having more whp/wtq than me on youtube.
Get remote tuned by my tuner he specializes in Z’s. His name is Jon Parham he works at Z1 Motorsports tell him I sent you he should be able to set you up right within 48 hours. Shoot him an email at tuning@z1motorsports.com
Do you know how much you dyno with the k&n drop ins? Asking because I hit 305whp with the stock air box tuned on ecutek. G37x Sedan
I have a video of me not tuned with Drop ins
Drop ins will give about 8 to 10hp on a stock G37 no tune. What was your stock numbers before your tune?
@@justhere4721 287whp with test pipes and CB exhaust.
@@JpCharisma if you were to tested the k&n drop ins with the oem stock boxes on that same day with those other intakes how much difference does it make in terms of power? I'm not sure if it's worth the money for long tubes
So stock the horsepower rating of 332 from the factory is a lie ?
They’re talking about crank horsepower not to the wheels
I seen oil changes having more effect on power then the difference of these intakes lol
Those must be some poorly maintained cars then.
LMAO 😂
See I’m up in the air with either AAM or z1 I takes 😩
Just buy Z1 intakes you’ll be good
Hi dose these intakes really work a
motors
3' intakes don't make a difference in power compared to 2.5" intakes
JpCharisma depends on your support mods aswell. How much power does make your z stock? 330 hp or more to the crank obviously.
I got motordyne long tube headers and their CBE, I have stillen gen 3 intake now I’m gonna get it tuned how much power u think I can get? I have a G37s
@@srodri14 what numbers did you end up getting? That's a solid set up. I wouldn't be surprised if you got 340+ whp and 285+ lbs ft torque.
Justin Magyar i don’t know cuz I didn’t dyno it yet. Its etune. It’s really impressive numbers, cuz usually to get these numbers u need full bolt on, headers, test pipes, intake, exhaust and intake manifold. Was it dyno jet or mustang dyno?
So 2.5 didn’t have any cons?
Depends what you consider a con, Stillen requires to cut the core support Z1 does not.
Stillen for me. Californa..
I’m rocking rabbit hole 3” here in Cali lol
Same. I just bought mine. Going to carve up my 2020 370z in a few weeks.
Nice pretty simple install
Great video, really enjoyed it. Just slow down your talking, felt like you were incredibly fast speaking.
All runs with a tune ?
Yes
What year is your car
It’s a 2012 🤙🏾
I’m a noobie, is a pcv delete bad?
Do I do it on my Infiniti G37 sedan, or you got to do it since you got a smaller car
The PCV is on all VQHR/VHR cars, usually you do a PCV delete when you run 3” intakes. If not you can always get a catch can.
Z1 FTW
Inb4 admintuning fanboys claim it’s photoshopped
Your car is slow :)
Genji_370z that’s an understatement 😂
Admin is the only 3in product that does not utlize the PCV inlet.... EVERY other 3in product utilizes it... so to correct... thats not a con to go 3in but a con to go ADMIN. quick resolution to that is to just put on two breather filters from your local parts store. cutting the core support is not a con for 3in intakes but to ALL intakes. cut is a cut... regardless of how big it is...
I don't think the takeda long tube intakes require cutting
@@l2iceboy takeda as well as Z1 don't REQUIRE cutting, but if you know about air flow, you'd want consistency throughout.
So which 3in intake utilize the POV inlet because I think upton and rzg both recommend catch cans or breathers....
if you don't want to cut the core support you can just purchase the admin intakes without the metal tubes( and its cheaper ) that go through the core support and use silicone 3 inch couplers from z1 or injen.
simple solution get a oil catch can. Plus the 3inch intakes are pointless with the stock Throttle body's if you really want to get the full power you gotta upgrade the TB to 70mm plus it been proven the Admin one put the most power out of the 3 when its tune by Moncef Faik
which intake does not require a tune bro
Stillens & Z1’s
@@JpCharisma hey bro, I have a g 37 coupe I wanted to get stillen gen 3 intake, but am not interested in getting my car rite na , what u still recommend them with out a tune , and also will you feel any difference
You’ll still feel a difference without a tune can’t go wrong with either or. Just remember to reset your ECU after the install so your car can relearn it’s AFR’s.
@@JpCharisma thanks bro
@@JpCharisma am currently using k&n drop in filter , i wasnt sure if I would feel any difference from my current setup , I will save up for stillen gen 3 intake
y'all forgot about mike upton 3in takes that's better than all of them
I didn’t forget about Mike Upton there was a miscommunication. So I never got a set to test out sadly 😞
😂 oh ok I feel you on that bro but you should do a video on those to brody 👊🏽🔥
There’s really no need to test out Upton’s intakes. They should perform pretty similar to the admins. Kinda like how the Z1’s were just as good if not better than the Stillen Gen 3’s.
Just make your own. Chop the stock air box and leave about an inch or so from the maf holder. Add piping of your choice and some Apexi filters place them directly behind the front grill. You are done, the sizing / silicone hoses blah blah blah make negligible gains. Have the car fitted with test pipes only and get a tune. All the other crap is just simply a waste of money
that’s a huge pain in the ass compared to just buying a kit though
Ok.. Soooooooooo.. that's a lot of money only to drop the stock horsepower from 332 to 329 and up your torque from the stock 271 to 282 a +11 gain for over 2000 dollars in parts not labor.. I'm not sure that's worth the money my guy.. It's really hard to squeeze power out of a non aspirated engine.. I ran some 3-in exhaust on my 96 z and lost low end torque. I snatched those things off the next day.. my horse power went from 222 HP stock down to 156 hp.. Wasn't worth with it, lost 800 bucks for nothing.. want more power ? The New 400 hp Z is ready from factory 🎤🎤🎤👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I just subbed fam go checkout my G! I just ordered a Motordyne Shockwave exhaust and I'm still undecided on intakes. I'm currently deciding between Z1 and Stillen. I'm not sure if z1 not having splash guards will be a deciding factor.
Thanks man either one works I’m running Z1 on my car. The stillens can be annoying when it comes to cutting and fitment for the core support. Since there is more steel piping.
@@JpCharisma No problem bro I try to support the Infiniti/Nissan community. My concern about the z1 intakes are them not having splash guards and as far as Stillen goes I would not mind getting them installed.
@@JpCharisma I'm just getting my channel started but stay tuned bro I have some good content coming soon!
Awesome man I’ll check it out 👌🏾
Non biased.. And yet your thumbnail wants to hate on admin which is the ONLY 3" intakes. Smh dude u hate so much its crazy u don't have more haters then u already have currently