Why I Own It: Jurassic Park DTS DVD
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- čas přidán 1. 05. 2024
- This is the first video in a new series called "Why I Own It." In this series of videos, I talk about a single media item and the reason why I own it. My aim is for these videos to be short and to the point. In this first edition, I talk about why I own the Jurassic Park DTS DVD released in 2000.
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These DTS DVDs were the 4K of their day. Still cherish my Saving Private Ryan DTS DVD. They were especially cherished abroad because these Spielberg films only got DTS in The US. We had to import them. DTS was something really special back in the DVD days
DTS was always the better audio option on DVD…bass was tighter and sound was more spacious…still love DTS still on blu ray
sehe ich genauso 👍🏻 DTS macht einfach mehr Spaß
I TOTALLY have this DTS disc, too - I got one that had the faulty LFE track, but Universal sent me a replacement. I never understood the extreme fanaticism over this title's audio track, though; it was aggressive and loud, sure, but even the T Rex stomping sequence never really shook my windows to pieces... and that was with the correct disc replacement.
I don't get rid of DVDs that I don't have to - I also have the DTS editions of Apollo 13, Jurassic Park III, Jaws, Saving Private Ryan, U-571... there's nothing wrong with them.
In the DVD era, DTS was always the preferred audio track - in the Blu-ray/4K era, I find that Dolby TrueHD is a "stronger" codec than DTS Master Audio.
I wish 4K Blu-rays and remastered Blu-rays would start bringing back the theatrical audio mixes. Even in plain old Dolby Digital or DTS, they often sound better than what we got on Blu-ray or 4K Blu-ray.
Can't agree there. True they are neutered versions like War of the Worlds (Cruise version) and the Thing where they screwed up the surround and bass, but Superman or the Matrix....heck no. Atmos all the way!
A pivotal movie in more than one category; I saw this in the theater 3 times. I still have my first edition Laser Disc release of Jurassic Park (1993). I purchased it when they first became available. It's hard to believe that it's been over 30 years since the movie premiered on the silver screen.
Jurassic Park was the very first film to showcase DTS surround when it premiered. I still remember seeing that “DTS Experience” trailer before the most started and it blew my mind. Still love it today, but you rarely see it anymore. In the earlier DVD days from ‘97 to 2000, I used to deliberately seek out the stand-alone DTS DVD’s. They were really hard to find, and when I did it was like winning a scavenger hunt. I always loved DTS mixes the most though. Some discs took forever to find for me. Like the DTS only copy of Daylight for instance. I still have all of my various JP copies though, from VHS to 4K blu-ray today. Including both pan-scan and letterboxed copies on VHS, unopened and still in there plastic from Suncoast in late 1993 when it first came out on home video. I bought copies to watch, and second copies to hold on to for nostalgia, I love the movie so much.
I just stumbled upon your channel. Great choice for a series of videos. I have several movies in my question that are head scratchers for some, but they serve a purpose for me. I remember having to go to Suncoast to grab this title because the "DTS" exclusives were so hard to find. Now I am going to go and see if I can find this one again.
Oh I stumbled across your video by accident. Thank you so much on this one. First off man, you couldn't be more right. Jurassic Park is one of my favorite movies too. I love this movie and again thank you cuz you learned something new everyday. And I am definitely going to be on the hunt for that copy now because I would love to hear the sound as it's supposed to be seen. I don't have a 4K TV yet but I would love to get one to go with. Some of my 4ks and dresses Park is on my list just like Halloween. I mean the John Carpenter Halloween 🎃👻 and dude what a good score. One buck and that DVD was in great condition. Well done🎉🎉🎉
Great, another version of this movie to add to my collection.
Thanks for the heads up! Subbed because of this video and the 2006 Star Wars, which I own copies of.
I bought this DVD from Best Buy the week it came out back in the day. It's always been one of my favorites for all the reasons you listed. 👍🏼
This disc had two pressings. The original had a lackluster bass. In the second Pressing they fixed the Bass. The way you can tell them apart is to look at the actual disc near the center.
the original had in small print: PEMC - D2R1
the second and corrected one had: PEMC - D2R2
Hope everyone has the right one.
Since you brought this up, I had a look and I have an original pressing. Despite that I'm still happy with my purchase. However, if I come across a second pressing I'll probably want to pick it up. Thanks ks for the info.
Yes be on the lookout. When you find one, ask the seller to check for you, and if it is the 2nd pressing : GRAB IT. Good Luck
@@2ndHandHomeTheater Guess you prefer light bass?
@@patrickmiller4987 Not necessarily, it depends. I like my bass to be present but not to the point of taking over the entire sound stage. I'm definitely not a "bass head." To be fair, at least in my room, there seemed to be enough bass from the disc I own. However, I'm interested in finding the corrected DVD down the road.
You could also look for the japanese region 2 superbit DTS DVD. It beats the US DTS DVD in every way.
The DTS:X track on the UHD Blu-ray is phenomenal, one of the best tracks in the format. I know it’s not the original track, but I think it’s just as good
Have you ever ripped your discs? You can take the DVD audio and put it on the Blu-ray. You can even time align it with software in case it's different.
I've never done it, because I don't have the equipment to do it, but I've read through forums where people have done it for several films. It would be an interesting project to cut and paste various video & audio files together. Maybe down the road but at the moment I'm happy with what I have.
@@2ndHandHomeTheater if you're ever interested, I could hop on a Zoom call and show you how I do it. It's actually very simple for Blu-ray and DVD. 4K discs require flashed firmware, but it's the same process after that.
Swapping audio tracks is easy, but time alignment is not. There are multiple different apps you could use to do it, but you can also eyeball it like I originally did :p. Audacity (free) works too. Once you have the offset value, the rest is drag 'n drop simple.
Some people re-encode videos and use Handbrake. That's super confusing. I don't touch that stuff unless I'm doing an inverse telecine or AI upscaling DVDs (this is where you find yourself in hell).
Why would you want to do this when the Blu-ray has Lossless audio?
@@bradavon Because you might want the original soundtrack. Also, he has a 5.1 system, and those tracks are designed by hand. An Atmos mix-down might not sound as good as something someone designed.
@@Saturn2888 That would be my only reason. Much like the fan restorations of the Star Wars films, you can mix whichever video source you want with whichever audio mix.
The way I watch "Jurassic Park" now is a fan preservation that uses the UHD regraded to better match the colors of the original 1993 prints with actual theatrical DTS, directly ripped from the theatrical CD-roms, with proper level adjustments for surround activity and LFE, that retains the dynamics of the farfield mix, not those nonsense nearfield remixes that ruin the historical value of the first ever DTS mix that the official releases have deprived us from for so long. Maybe one day this title will finally have a proper UHD restoration with proper film grain structure and colors plus original audio. Fingers crossed. I also have a 35mm scan with theatrical DTS as an alternative to the several botched official editions.
Curious if they were level matched. We tend to prefer what is louder/has more bass studies prove. I watch 2k/4k over standard DVD everytime cause even if I just used my system in 2.1 mode it rocks. I always use DTS Neural X even if disc is Atmos. Also a very robust front stage with or without center and multi subs is the win IMO no matter how many small badly placed speakers one tries to use to chase surround sound. To me by far the biggest jump in quality is usually SD to HD.
Yes sir I have the DVD and got it specifically for the DTS track
I had the DTS laser version of this, I borrowed my friends Dolby digital version and did a few scene comparisons and also saw a difference or heard a difference. The DTS was fuller and a little bit more richer. I didn’t realize the first movie was the actual soundtrack from the theaters? I would’ve kept my DTS DVD, but now I own the 3-D Blu-ray, Blu-ray, boxset and the 4K which is now in Atmos, which I believe, is the superior soundtrack for all of them. Just my opinion but you’re right still. This is my first time watching your channel and I’m a new subscriber.
Thanks for the sub. Everyone has their own options and tastes, I don't think anybody is wrong for liking a certain version of a film or audio track. For some movies I just enjoy having as close to the theatrical audio / video as I can. Other movies I don't mind as much. It's just up to your wants & tastes.
My 4k versions have DTS:X, but I use a Sonos system which doesn’t support it 😭 there’s so many variables with home cinema I’ve just learned to enjoy the film and not worry too much about it, just remember they’re all better than anything streamed over the internet 😅
Thanks Chad, I definitely had the DTS versions back in the day - I might have to find JP and the LW again so I can rip out the DTS track and add it to the 4K-
I used to own the DTS DVD but gave it away when I "upgraded" to Bluray. I regret it now
I have that DTS version of JP in my closet. Never knew itneas sought after. Good to know. Yeah, this version is absolutely badass in the audio department for sure.
These DTS DVDs were the 4K of their day. Still cherish my Saving Private Ryan DTS DVD. They were especially cherished abroad because these Spielberg films only got DTS in The US. We had to import them. DTS was something really special back in the DVD days
@@bradavon Awsome, man! Could any of you upload this dvd to the internet archive? It really would help us out 😀
That's super interesting, you should try to play both at the same time and sync up the audio so you can get the best of both XD
Love these old odd ball DVDs. 👍
Great content, sir. New sub.
I bought the same ultimate trilogy set like yours because I wanted the visual portion of the movies to resemble what I grew up with as a kid, this time being 1080p blu ray VS the VHS tapes I had. Night and day difference.
I don't usually refer to myself as an audiophile because it's just another word for "nerd" that people will use to make fun of but I have records, tapes, CD's, and digital copies of plenty of things and each have their strengths, weaknesses, and proper applications.
All that being said, I never fully branched out into sound mixes for movies because I still lack a proper surround sound set up in my home, still rocking 2 channel in 2024.
What I have noticed though, is that, like a record pressing in different regions/countries, they are by no means the same quality or have the same sound signature. So with multichannel digital mixes, those are best represented by the times in which they were released and the technology/engineers that mixed them.
Since I don't have a proper surround set up I can only conjecture that a 5.1 DTS mix from previous years "up channeled" to 7.1 DTS in the modern day may not sound as great as the 5.1 mix for whatever technical or subjective reason. It's the same kind of argument about original analog pressings of certain records compared to modern remastered pressings. To me, the originals sound more life like, where as the remasters sound clean, correct, but sterile with no soul.
I'm glad the algorithm did its job and led me to this video, it's nice to know that my record argument can apply to movie mixes as well and that the newest mixes aren't always better than the originals, unless the most tender loving care goes into them or the dynamic range remains intact and stellar even on a newer system. Thanks for the vid, cheers!
Is this a NTSC version. I have the LaserDisc but it’s not the DTS edition. So I would like to get this. I like DTS discs in general.
Yes. I remember these Region 1 imports for DTS only editions from back in the day. I still have a copy of Saving Private Ryan and Galaxy Quest which were early DTS only discs before the bitrate got compressed further after being halved.
Jurassic park I think is still only 768kbs on DVD vs the Laserdisc full "Core" 1.5mbs ? But from Bowfinger onwards DTS was crushed down again to fit a Dolby Track and DTS track on one disc, which meant no more choosing as these early versions oftentimes had no bonus materials and were $5-$10 more than there Dolby counterparts.
I remember Apolo 13 was $34.99 vs $24.99 and had no bonus material. Dolby outsold them 10-1 so these were often re released as special edition sets with both soundtracks but always watered down DTS versions.
@@jefffan171 interesting. I wonder if a list of these DTS only releases exist. Think I would like to collect them. Any ideas?
Update I found it at a thrift store today $4, now i'm searching for other DTS only releases :)
@@WattTheTech oh wow!! Well done. Will look at see if anywhere like the LDDB has them listed
@@WattTheTech found an old discussion thread about the early universal releases. Out of Sight, Nutty Professor etc. So looks like late 2000 to early 2001 titles from Dreamworks and Universal, makes sense, given the three way Stephen Spielberg connection to all three companies
I don't mind the remix that much, but I do mind the fact that they added a seemingly random sound effect in one scene. As someone who's watched this hundreds of times since the 90s, the added raptor snarls in the kitchen scene REALLY stick out like a sore thumb. It's when they're crawling on the floor just before the toe tap. The sounds were put in with the first blu ray version and kept for subsequent re-releases, DVD does not have them. And it's the only real modification in terms of content throughout the entire movie.
Ok I knew I wasn’t going crazy. I’ve seen this movie a million times times but when I rewatch it on the 4K released version I heard new raptor noises in the kitchen. So odd
I purchased a DVD DTS copy of Jurassic Park because of this video. Have you considered doing a video on the X-Files DVDs? I kept mine because the HD releases use the incorrect font and ALL the up-converted effects shots have a frame rate stutter.
I only own the original X-Files movie, I sadly don't have any TV show DVDs. Not sure if you mean the shows or the film. Thanks.
The 2023 4k uhd of Jurassic Park is a billion times better. Actually, so is the 1994 DTS Laserdisc -- that has the original theatrical DTS encoded and packs a punch.
Own this film about five or six times.
Coming from laserdisc side I decided to buy DVD’s with DTS since prices are way cheaper compared to LD. Jurassic Park DTS is the 1st one I bought at a thrift store for $2
Just subbed to your channel , man
Awesome thank you!
Eh, I used to have that edition, I don't miss it much, I've got the films on 4K UHD with DTS X tracks and, to my ears, it buries every edition I've ever had of the film on any previous format.
I keep all my dvds even though I've replaced a lot of them with blu ray. However I have yet to make the jump to 4k. When a 4k tv and player will up-res the image to 4k, I don't see the point though maybe I'm wrong🤔
Oh, there's a definite improvement over up-scaling through the television alone! However, when it comes to 4K, it's a little more than just buying a new player. If you're using a receiver for surround sound, you'll need to upgrade that as well because a 4K signal can't pass through your old one.
I found out the hard way and had to wait a wee bit longer before I could witness UHD picture and sound, but, for me personally, it was worth the money and the wait. (The up-res with a 4K player is even better!)
I think the DTS laserdisc version hits a little harder but the DTS audio on dvd still very good
1:42 “I couldn’t pass it up”
Oh let me tell you the ways I could. This guy is the real life On Cinema Gregg.
I appreciate it. Gotta do whatever gets the views. Am I right? 👍
Fascinating. Especially when the Jurassic Park Blu-ray will be Lossless audio vs the 768Kbps DTS. But as always with audio the mastering is key. I'd never think they'd mess with the original audio placement when remixing for 7.1. We only got the DD5.1 version of these Spielberg films in The UK. Any idea if the Saving Private Ryan DTS DVD sounds superior to the Blu-ray? Thanks.
I appreciate the feedback. I can't comment on Saving Private Ryan, as I don't own the DTS DVD, only the Blu-ray. If I find that version somewhere, I might pick it up to have a listen. Thanks.
To my Knowledge and Hearing, Saving Private Ryan has a "Brick-Wall" LFE Filter at around 30hz on Blu Ray.
So much less Bass than DVD sadly, but Surround Sound itself is way better.
Same for Master & Commander and U-571.
@@2ndHandHomeTheaterthanks.
@@tydendurler9574thanks too. I've still got the Master and Commander R1 2 Disc DVD Limited Edition because the Blu-ray is one of those early Blu-ray releases with only a few of the extras the DVD got. I'm not big into extras any more but it screamed "this will get a re-release" but it never did bizarrely. I guess it'll be the 4K now.
I got it in August 2022.
I downloaded a 1080P version with a 35mm video version that includes the original DTS mix. I also own the Jurassic 4k 5-pack, with 4Ks and Blurays. I also have Jurassic Park on DVD but it wasn't the DTS version.
I know there was an open matte 35mm version floating around the internet / CZcams years ago. I'm not sure if it's still around. I've never owned the 4k releases and I've read mixed reviews about them online. I'm happy with the versions I own, but would be interested in seeing an actual film version at some point. Thanks for watching.
@@2ndHandHomeTheater I think the only Jurassic Park I saw in the theater was Jurassic Park III. I think the 4k version of the first three films are all good. The second three films are not quite as good to me overall but I've seen them all.
@@frommatorav1 will second this. JP on 4K blu ray is a visual delight, it doesn't pop with colours the way a new movie would but it's quite beautiful at times. Lost World also looks a lot better, the nighttime scenes benefit the most surprisingly enough. JP3 was always dull to look at. Mileage varies with the visual effects, since they were originally rendered at lower resolution, main issue is a bit less colour depth compared to the purely live action shots. I feel they blend well enough since the film grain is still there.
nice to think of the length of your video!!! (i "drop" lengthy yt videos).
I'm trying to mix it up. I have some 5 min or less videos and some longer form ones. I tend to ramble and I'm working on keeping a variety of video times. Thanks.
I brought the first 3 jpark films in dts from america to oz in the 2000's , i still have them & use them for testing these days , at the time oz only had 5.1 dolby digital which wasnt as good as dts back then , i think all 6 films look the best on bluray coz 4k make the dinosaurs look fake , they sound the best in the dts:x i think now , i use to buy a lot of movies back then from the states just for the improved audio tracks
Dude, this is an interesting topic but I think you needed to showcase why this is worth it by showing and comparing the audio from the films. Show, don't tell.
I appreciate the feedback. I've heard that from a few people. I'll look into it for future videos. I'm also looking into the copyright rules for this kinda thing. Thanks.
Did they fix this on the 4K?
I don't even have an AC3 demodulator my player doesn't even have an output for one on laserdisc, it also doesn't have a optical out for DTS. It has RCA audio only. I want to get into DTS but the equipment is expensive and i'm in a shoebox sized apartment. 4K tv with soundbar if i can get it to work, if not its getting returned.
I'm not an A/V expert, but you should be able to at least get everything to work (so long as the laserdisc player isn't broken). You'll just get stereo sound instead of 5.1 but at least it's something. The price is one of the reasons I've been waiting so long to figure and a good deal. I'm not one to rush out and pay more than I think I should pay. Thanks.
@@2ndHandHomeTheater , the only good thing about laserdisc now is the price. But players are super expensive and no parts or repair anymore. I generally only go for the good deals, except for my Star Wars sets those can get pricy.
I like my 4k of Jurassic park
I've never seen the 4k release but read mixed reviews. I'd give it a watch at some point just to check it out. Outside of not having the original DTS sound mix, I think the Ultimate Blu-Ray edition is pretty good. Thanks.
I understand.
@@2ndHandHomeTheater a/b it next!
W R A S S L I N!
If you think this sounds good, you should heard the DTS Laserdisc. Yowsa.
I agree !
It's already on my list for after I get a laserdisc player. Thanks.
Why not get the Lazer disk and the players🤔
I'm actually wanting to get a laserdisc player. Just waiting to find a good enough deal. Thanks ks for the comment.
hi mat
Yeah but why would you sacrifice picture quality of blu ray and 4k for a trash dvd quality for the sound.
That's a fair point, honestly in my home theater DVDs look pretty good. Yeah it's not the same as a Blu-ray or 4k disc, but by no means is it unwatchable. It's just a matter of preference. Thanks.
4k blu ray has it
Good to know, I'll have to check it out. Thanks.
No it doesn't. I checked just now, the 4K release has a DTS 7.1 track which folds out to a DTS:X mix if you have the right hardware. It's not the original theatrical mix.
Subbed I'll have to check this out
Hey dude, just some constructive criticism this video has about 2.5 to 3 minutes of actual content. If you go back and review this you’ll notice that almost everything you’ve stated here you say at least twice and the question you pose in the title isn’t answered until halfway through the video.
I think if you keep those things in mind, it will help you make more compelling videos that more people will enjoy watching and come away with the informative information you’re attempting to address. The DTS mix thing was something I didn’t know about and I’m sure a lot of other people found that informative useful too, but it can be stated in a more efficient and effective way.
Cheers
I appreciate the feedback. I only do this as a hobby so I'm always trying to get better at my editing and staying on topic. Thanks.
@@2ndHandHomeTheater right on, dude. Like I said, you have some solid information in this video that I think is valuable to a lot of enthusiasts. Finding ways of improving things is always a fun challenge.
2001 called they want their disc back lol get the 4K and move on 😂
Time to upgrade to 4k. Picture quality outweighs sound.
That's fair. I think each person has their own opinion on it and I'm somewhere in the middle. Thanks.
Bit snobbish of you Jason.
@@mistermoo7602 not really. $4k has gone down in prices and is worth the investment. In the long run, it’s well worth it.
Time to dump that thing back in the thrift. Store and buy a 4K player. You wanna see the movie as it was supposed to be seen
I already have a 4k player, just not this movie. Maybe I'll check it out some day down the road, but right now I'm happy with what I have. Thanks for the feedback
I feel the same way about my elm street collection in dvd.👍@2ndHandHomeTheater
4K isn't how Jurassic Park "was supposed to be seen". 4K didn't exist until 9 years ago.
@@bradavon true, but high resolution film did exist in 1993, 4K allows us to watch the film at near film print resolution at home, that's what that comment was getting at.
@@bradavonwhat an ignorant comment
I don't like the Jurassic park movies.
That's fine, everybody has their own tastes. I appreciate the comment anyways. Thanks.
I buy duplicate of movies I love just for alternate covers🫣