Sony XAV-9500ES mobile ES Car Stereo Review, headunit with wireless Apple CarPay and android auto.

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  • čas přidán 22. 04. 2022
  • In this video we go over the new Sony XAV-9500ES 10” Car Stereo headunit. This radio has great features like wireless apple carplay and andriod auto and has many great audio features to ensure the best music reproduction on the market. If you have been looking for a great sounding headunit this is the one! Many car stereo headunits are on the market but not too many focus on sound quality quite like this headunit does.
    To find out more about this headunit or to purchase it click the link below..
    breakersstereoandperformance....
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Komentáře • 115

  • @IcedAssault
    @IcedAssault Před 2 lety +14

    I like that mostly black minimalist UI.

  • @JamesOKeefe-US
    @JamesOKeefe-US Před rokem +1

    Wow, I had a CDX-U8000 and the accompanying full din EQ. Seeing the old school EQ look brings it right back. Really enjoyed this video. Fantastic job!!

  • @j2hott23
    @j2hott23 Před 2 lety +56

    Those bezels in 2022 is a no no. Edge to Edge the screen and get with the times.

    • @Vinh616
      @Vinh616 Před rokem +8

      Lmao name one aftermarket touchscreen stereo doesn't have a benzel...even the Tesla model 3 touch screen have a benzel...

    • @j2hott23
      @j2hott23 Před rokem +4

      @@Vinh616 lmao that’s the point. Why continue to follow trends instead of setting them. Billion dollar corporation and decides to put bezels larger than the ones on my tv on a head unit. 😂

    • @Vinh616
      @Vinh616 Před rokem +6

      @@j2hott23 that's the point? "You get with the times" what times? when it's a norm...and the reason they have benzels on this model because there's still actually buttons. And with buttons it takes space... SMH people and their rhetorics

    • @Vinh616
      @Vinh616 Před rokem +1

      @@j2hott23 lmao you comparing TV screen to car audio screen? I guess it doesn't occur to you car audio screen are COMPACT devices versus a TV which have plenty of space to add features...

    • @Vinh616
      @Vinh616 Před rokem

      @@j2hott23 lmao decide to put benzel? Ahahahhaahahaha I guess someone NEVER study any type of engineering but speaks rhetorics, and think common sense works in real world technology....

  • @toyotadiesel
    @toyotadiesel Před rokem

    Seeing the XE700 really hit me in the feels

  • @Sabundy
    @Sabundy Před 2 lety +4

    Great to see SONY back in the car audio business 😃

    • @amelsfr
      @amelsfr Před rokem

      they never left. just didn't advertise much

  • @jameszahorskysr7777
    @jameszahorskysr7777 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for helping the rich !!! They need it !!! They are Camus so you give them away !! Thank you so much

  • @Gumshoe950
    @Gumshoe950 Před rokem +4

    I just installed this exact unit in my 2017 Tacoma Off-Road two weeks ago, so far it is working as advertised and I am loving it. When I bought it, I was not aware that it did not have HD radio, but now that I've had a chance to use and play with all its features and functions...it has not been a big deal at all simply because this new unit is so much better than my stock head unit ever was.

    • @rezash4592
      @rezash4592 Před rokem +1

      I was never a big fan of gf radio regardless IMO the tuner on this radio is one of the best ever.

    • @markcurnutt3925
      @markcurnutt3925 Před 7 měsíci +1

      I have a 2019 Taco myself and I am considering getting this model. I was curious to how it looks in your ride? Being such a bigger screen does it block up the vents or get in the way of anything?

    • @Gumshoe950
      @Gumshoe950 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@markcurnutt3925, Negative...this is a perfect fit and does not block or interfere with any vents at all. The fit and finish is excellent and install was very easy. The screen is not overly large for the space and in my opinion, just the right size me.

  • @jonathanr2830
    @jonathanr2830 Před 3 měsíci

    Excellent review! Very informative and helpul! I own many Sony ES products, and have been totally pleased. They perform way above simply excellent, and are of very high-quality components, design, and build. They last for many years of trouble-free bliss, and are backed by the best warranty.

  • @J10k
    @J10k Před rokem +7

    Quality review as always. Those bezels are enormous, wish they made them thinner.

    • @techforever1970
      @techforever1970 Před 2 měsíci

      Same thoughts here, as well as it being 20W RMS for $1400USD... What a joke.

  • @jbrexpedition
    @jbrexpedition Před 2 lety

    Could you please help on how to setup android auto wireless in this device.. And also could you please do a review on the equalizer and sound setting what this unit offers.. It's whole new level of settings it got...
    Appreciated your review..

  • @shaunjay6040
    @shaunjay6040 Před rokem

    I want this in my challenger so bad!!

  • @earnestheyward3567
    @earnestheyward3567 Před 2 lety +2

    So would you give this head unit a 5 star like you gave the alpine iLXF-509 and iLXF-511?

  • @shooter-lex8658
    @shooter-lex8658 Před rokem

    Overall a really good product 👍🏻 but...
    The Side- and Bottom-bezel(s) should be as thin as the Top-Bezel. A sensor based control would also be nice, like the Volkswagen premium stereos do have. The ability to add a bluetooth volume knob like Alpine offers and a Pioneer like Split-view would also be great. So I’d have the option to control this expensive stereo however I like. Moreover a Full HD Screen, a fourth camera input for a birdview and HDMI-input and output with assignable source(s) (for instance 4 cams) would be nice too. Since this video is older than a year it would be great if Sony would come up with an improved stereo receiver for 2023. 🙏🏻 And please also sell these units in Europe not just the US. 🥲 Greetings from good ol Germany. 🇩🇪

  • @bobbywiegner525
    @bobbywiegner525 Před rokem

    Between this one, kenwood 1057xr, or the alpine halo f511. Which one would you recommend and is the best overall?

  • @stevecri123
    @stevecri123 Před rokem

    Can you do a comparison between the Sony es component vs the blam audio component that would be a really good head to head.. 🤘

  • @TruckerTone
    @TruckerTone Před rokem +1

    This on a 08 Harley Road Glide??? Or is the screen too big?

  • @toyolab5861
    @toyolab5861 Před rokem

    Which one would you recommend this unit or the pioneer 3800

  • @Nebuchadnezzar18
    @Nebuchadnezzar18 Před rokem

    Is this better than the jvc jw z1000?
    I
    Or is there something better thbs both?

  • @harnaras2400
    @harnaras2400 Před rokem +1

    What would you recommend the Sony or the halo 11?

  • @ayman.ibrahim
    @ayman.ibrahim Před rokem

    Can this head unit play youtube or Netflix? Since there's no hdmi

  • @EYECOMEINPEACE
    @EYECOMEINPEACE Před 2 lety

    I need something with wireless android auto and sound improvement (will do speakers later) for my 18 f150. I have the 8" sync 3 system but want to ditch that... Need wireless AA and berter sound. Anyone know if this will work or have any recommendations?

  • @rezash4592
    @rezash4592 Před rokem +5

    I just purchased this unit and it’s awesome. It has many of the best features you can get in a high end processor like the audison bit one (which I have) and the sound quality amazing. Very good acoustic detail and transparency right out of the box with default settings. It has a vinyl setting that makes audio sound warm and tube like which I really enjoy. The interface is simple but elegant at the same time. It looks clean and factory like in my tundra. With the maestro harness you can interface with you odb2, send and receive lots of data, display data, reconfigure settings, and even read faults!
    One thing the failed to mention is that it does play video files from a usb drive or android and it supports lots of high quality video and audio file types.

    • @delaneo100
      @delaneo100 Před rokem

      I just purchased this deck on ebay for $500 to replace the Dual 10.1 in my truck. I didn't think that I could play videos. Do I need to add something to be able to play videos or CZcams?

    • @rezash4592
      @rezash4592 Před rokem

      @@delaneo100 no you just need to store them on an usb drive in one of video formats the deck supports. I have not verified this but it supposedly supports mirroring on android phones with a specific app installed. I’ve read that you can stream videos through your phone with it setup. Unfortunately I have an iPhone so I don’t know how well it works. This unit has way more functionality with android phones.

    • @jahcousteauu_STAYinSHAPE
      @jahcousteauu_STAYinSHAPE Před rokem

      that's what im trying to get mines to do , I want video options, im about to hook up a fire stick or something, I need CZcams, Netflicks and more, frfr, @$1400 it should come with all of that, and I want that maestro thingy for my OBD2 port in my Chevy Trailblazer even though its a 2007

    • @oslozoya1
      @oslozoya1 Před 9 měsíci

      They have the Sony 9000es version how would u compare to Kenwood 958xr or alpine 507ilx.

  • @bluedominator650
    @bluedominator650 Před 9 měsíci +3

    I saw your other video about the two Alpine Car Stereo with the Floating Screen, and I don't know what to get. They both seem to be really good products. Help here !!!

  • @indigenous_goat4922
    @indigenous_goat4922 Před rokem

    I can’t keep mines in Apple CarPlay. I believe the vibration throws it back in Bluetooth mode. Please help. Tried relocating the GPS already.

  • @Higoaway2578
    @Higoaway2578 Před 2 lety +1

    Wait so I cant just plug my phone into it to get high res audio?

  • @wajidabid961
    @wajidabid961 Před rokem

    Is it ok for accord 2019?

  • @joaquinleites7976
    @joaquinleites7976 Před 2 lety +9

    Great video as always, I'm very interested on installing the full Sony es system on my car, can you do a review of the full system?

  • @CosminCraiova
    @CosminCraiova Před 2 měsíci

    Hello ! Does it have Tidal or you can install it ? Thx !

  • @kedrickhardy8922
    @kedrickhardy8922 Před 2 lety +4

    No HDMI??? What’s up with that??

  • @curiosity2314
    @curiosity2314 Před 9 měsíci

    Sony is the best out there but as far as I'm concerned but they blew it with not incorporating HD radio into the mix which you did mention. I guess the real question is, is there an HD add-on for this unit?

  • @mahirpandav7771
    @mahirpandav7771 Před 2 lety +1

    Can u compare this with pioneer 9350 bt

  • @adamcruse7606
    @adamcruse7606 Před 2 lety

    I love the programmable button soft touch buttons. We have them for volume up and down.

  • @dhilboy231
    @dhilboy231 Před 2 lety +3

    Fantastic review as always guys! Been watching for a while now and love the videos!
    Only thing I'd say is when you mention dimensions, please can you use Metric as well as Imperial units - as we really don't use inches in Europe
    Love from🇬🇧❤️

    • @BreakersStereo
      @BreakersStereo  Před 2 lety

      No problem! Thanks for the support

    • @tracyf9233
      @tracyf9233 Před rokem +1

      @@BreakersStereo is the Sony 9500 compatible with a 2020 Lexus gx 460?

  • @LeandroJack
    @LeandroJack Před 2 lety +10

    These mainstream brands are in a race to build the biggest bezel ever on a head unit. Shit is so ugly, that screen could've been at least 13" within that same footprint. How is it these no name Chinese brands can design and make much better looking products?

    • @BurnAfterEating
      @BurnAfterEating Před rokem +1

      I'm not even gonna lie, i think I prefer the bezel. For how many of these head units are used in pre-2000's cars, it manages to add a touch screen interface without looking too modern. Keeps a period correct look

  • @Armalite223
    @Armalite223 Před 2 lety

    This or the kenwood 1057xr ?

  • @widagdorahardjo
    @widagdorahardjo Před rokem

    I don't get it. if it is play only music why 10 inch?

  • @chinogodinez
    @chinogodinez Před 6 měsíci

    Alpine ilx-f511 vs Sony xav-9500es? Sound quality

  • @ali-sleimanchehade6129
    @ali-sleimanchehade6129 Před 2 lety +1

    Yeah the bezel are huge and they should add also a volume knob like kenwood 🤦

  • @hemeon
    @hemeon Před 9 dny

    I know this video is a bit old, but a quick google search showed me it does support Android Auto through the USB input. Js. 😅

  • @iamjackalope
    @iamjackalope Před rokem

    It doesn't stream NetFlix but it does have the ability to play video from a USB thumb drive without any problem. It is geared more for the best audio performance and it delivers in that respect. If you have music videos on a thumb drive and want to play them while driving the unit will play the audio but it will block the video until you shift into park. All though I haven't bothered to try but I think it will play video streaming from your phone with apple car play. Besides should people really be watching video while driving anyway. I suppose if you want to pacify children on long trips in the family SUV having the ability to play DVD's on the back of the head rests has it's merits but then again what modern radio does play DVD's?

  • @mjdgi1
    @mjdgi1 Před 2 lety +1

    Why the bezels so big

  • @xxdemonshitxx
    @xxdemonshitxx Před 2 lety +7

    Regarding the USB: You can plug in a USB-C flash drive (or get a C to A adapter) loaded with music and leave it. Navigation of your music on the drive is easy enough since your music is as organized as you have it on the USB drive. You are not restricted to playing media wirelessly via Bluetooth/AA/AC.
    Backup Camera: I had to install iDatalink's VID1 noise filter to clear up the picture. It is a significant difference between with and without it. It was the best $15 I ever spent.
    EQ: The EQ is BURIED in the settings and is not accessible from the USB interface or AA. From the USB interface you have minimize by pressing HOME > SETTINGS > SOUND > EQ. To reach the parametric EQ it's an extra step: instead of hitting EQ, go to Advanced > Parametric EQ. Talk about a pain in the ass. Why there isn't an EQ button or even sound settings button within the USB interface blows my mind. You can't even set up one of the two custom buttons to send you to the EQ when pressed. Lame. What Sony needs to do is allow individual songs (or albums) to have it's own save-able EQ settings. Also, a more robust USB interface is in order...album view, genres, and playlist creation needs to happen. Just like Stinger's HEIGH10, Sony claims they made this HU with audiophiles in mind, but don't give us much customization options let alone easier access to the options that actually exist.

    • @DTC12
      @DTC12 Před rokem

      Does the backup camera automatically turn on when backing up? The video makes me think you have to manually select it.

    • @xxdemonshitxx
      @xxdemonshitxx Před rokem

      @@DTC12 Nah, it's automatic..though I don't know how the HU would operate _without_ the Maestro RR2.

    • @DTC12
      @DTC12 Před rokem

      @@xxdemonshitxx Thanks. Have you had any issues with yours? I am debating between this, the Alpine Halo 9, and the Pioneer NEX 7600.

    • @xxdemonshitxx
      @xxdemonshitxx Před rokem +2

      @@DTC12 All issues I've had were resolved via firmware update from Sony. Since the last update I've had no issues at all.

  • @mafosa8519
    @mafosa8519 Před 2 lety +3

    they could have added a "mini amp piggyback" there line of speakers are 90 rms. also.. they could have made the HU amp channels assignable.
    head unit for the tweeters and the "piggyback amp" for the doors.
    pretty cool though!
    larry

  • @pauloparranao5534
    @pauloparranao5534 Před 2 lety

    Nice radio in deed.
    Please, say the maesurments in meters too. I'm an European guy and not used to inches. Please...
    Love your reviews...

    • @BreakersStereo
      @BreakersStereo  Před 2 lety +2

      You got it we’ll keep that in mind. Thanks for the support!

    • @pauloparranao5534
      @pauloparranao5534 Před 2 lety

      Thank you... I apreciate your eforts to please your suporters. Love your chanel, your approach on contents presented...
      Wish you all the best...

  • @thekickstand5023
    @thekickstand5023 Před 2 lety +1

    I can’t decide between this and the Xav-ax8100. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!

    • @ch3ncerpau148
      @ch3ncerpau148 Před 6 měsíci

      If you're looking for wireless CarPlay/AA, this is your best bet for a floating radio, unless you want HDMI in which case I'd recommend the 8100

  • @AMWLure
    @AMWLure Před rokem

    Can this head unit be used to replace my factory head unit on a 2017 Chevy Colorado, with full functionality, to control everything?

    • @SupaBuma
      @SupaBuma Před 6 měsíci

      I would like to know this as well. My OEM screen digitizer is dead. Thanks Chevy!

  • @theuncanspan
    @theuncanspan Před 2 lety

    Does the vehicle information require any special wires/connections?

    • @ch3ncerpau148
      @ch3ncerpau148 Před 6 měsíci

      It requires an Idatalink Maestro module and harness, there's no way to do it from the radio itself

  • @agaad22
    @agaad22 Před 2 lety +21

    The bezels are a deal breaker

    • @motowhit
      @motowhit Před 2 lety

      They grow on you

    • @mr.potato1649
      @mr.potato1649 Před rokem +1

      Well if they grow any bigger they’ll be more bezel than screen @motowhit

    • @Vinh616
      @Vinh616 Před rokem

      Name one aftermarket touch screen stereo doesn't have a bezel. Even Tesla model 3 have benzels...

    • @southnyourmind
      @southnyourmind Před rokem

      @@mr.potato1649 lmfao

    • @getmoneygang7518
      @getmoneygang7518 Před rokem

      Broke energy 😂

  • @bassjasinski
    @bassjasinski Před rokem

    Wow that is a large bezel. Larger bezels allow for larger profit margins lol

  • @izraizra316
    @izraizra316 Před rokem +1

    I have a 2018 ford ecosport which is factory equipped with the sync 3 navigation screen and also have the rear camera. The unit suddenly died and because it’s out of warranty, I have to pay a crazy amount to replace it. I’ve been without music for almost two years now. Ford can’t tell me if an aftermarket radio/touch screen will work on my Ecosport. Can I use the Sony that’s seen on this video or something similar? Preferably something that can also play video like CZcams for example? So instead of getting another sync 3 I rather invest in a better quality after market unit. What do you advise I do? I’m tired of carrying my Bluetooth speaker just to listen to music 😢

    • @SupaBuma
      @SupaBuma Před 6 měsíci

      The Crutchfield website is your new friend.

    • @izraizra316
      @izraizra316 Před 6 měsíci

      @@SupaBuma what do you recommend? Crutchfield keeps telling me what they carry is non compatible. Could it be because it’s not a direct physical fit? Or is it the aftermarket radios with the screens won’t work at all? I’m lost and I currently hate my car 😏if it’s the physical fit that’s the issue, I don’t mind that cause I can make it fit.

    • @SupaBuma
      @SupaBuma Před 6 měsíci

      @@izraizra316Crutchfield's "Outfit My Car" does work and your vehicle is listed in there. Have you tried calling Crutchfield directly? From my understanding, their customer support is top-notch. If so, have you tried a installer local to you? Something has to fit but Crutchfield is working for me for your vehicle.
      Here's what Crutchfield's website is saying after selecting your SUV and it has pictures:
      "2018 Ford EcoSport Sport Utility
      Which radio originally came with your EcoSport?
      You may need to measure the diagonal width of your radio's screen to determine which radio you have.
      Radio with 8" screen
      Radio with 6.5" screen
      Radio with 4.2" screen
      Why are we asking these questions?
      By identifying your factory equipment, we can show you what fits, and send you the right installation gear."

  • @vincentmaddela2956
    @vincentmaddela2956 Před rokem +1

    has anyone compared this with ALpine ILX 511? Trying to decide between these two.

    • @michaelfoley1296
      @michaelfoley1296 Před 6 měsíci

      Following as I am looking for the same comparison

  • @alfrede.neuman8611
    @alfrede.neuman8611 Před rokem +2

    It's amazing, but lets be honest....this system is overkill for 99.9% of potential buyers. Sony needs to drop some of the complexity and lower the price point. Most of us are just looking for a big floating screen, with wireless apple Carplay and it's too bad Sony left that group out, buy only offering it on their most expensive, higher end units.

  • @briansouth9325
    @briansouth9325 Před 2 lety +2

    Should have been 1080....... come on companies!

  • @brokernicksassi
    @brokernicksassi Před rokem +1

    No video is going to kill it for me

  • @zacharytribou2728
    @zacharytribou2728 Před 5 měsíci

    I wish they would just do a cheaper 9 inch option, idk about the wireless ability, I just am blind

    • @BreakersStereo
      @BreakersStereo  Před 5 měsíci

      Yeah this is a lot. They do have the 8” that’s on sale for less than $500 right now but no where near the features of this one. Look at the Pioneer DMH-W3800. Not too bad and on sale for $699. No wireless carplay or andriod auto thou.

  • @mytnoid
    @mytnoid Před rokem

    Only if they would let us mirror of video streaming companies on it!!

  • @stitch1007
    @stitch1007 Před 2 lety +1

    Am I the only one that thinks it's odd they have two clocks right next to each other on the main screen?

  • @thaisonhorn
    @thaisonhorn Před rokem

    that analog clock ⏰ in the middle is too much, need to be able to turn it off

  • @jimmycorbett4611
    @jimmycorbett4611 Před rokem

    The fact that this does NOT have an HDMI input is pure insanity when the new lower model Sony XAVAX 6000 that came out at the same time does AT LITERALLY HALF THE PRICE. This 9500ES costs $1400 And the 6000 costs $700 new. It seems the only main difference is the bigger screen on the 9500ES. WHICH IS WHY IT MAKES EVEN LESS SENSE! If I were someone who was ever going to plug up an Xbox, PlayStation, or want to watch movies, stream tv shows, etc., on a head unit in my car, I would want the screen to be BIG just like a TV, just like the 9500ES! But for whatever reason, they put an HDMI on the 6000 which is almost half the size of the 9500 at 6.95 inch screen while the 9500 has a 10.1 inch screen. Just sheer stupidity on Sony’s part. I just bought the Sony XAVAX 5600 because I actually prefer wired CarPlay, but if I was in the market for a wireless CarPlay head unit, I’d go with the Sony XAVAX 6000 all day. Blows my mind that they didn’t add an hdmi input on a $1400 head unit wow.
    Edit: Not to mention the bezels on this 9500ES are wayyyy to thick.

  • @justkiddin1980
    @justkiddin1980 Před 9 měsíci

    NO DIGITAL OUTPUT?!? It’s no use calling your head unit “high end” if it hasn’t at least a toslink output

    • @pkal244
      @pkal244 Před 3 měsíci

      An external standalone DAC for a car? Who makes that?

  • @jameszahorskysr7777
    @jameszahorskysr7777 Před 2 lety

    Wow thank you very much.!!! For nothing!!

  • @pkd4588
    @pkd4588 Před 10 měsíci

    Doesn’t appeal to me …

  • @SupaBuma
    @SupaBuma Před 6 měsíci

    I need this and a SONY 10-Disc CD Changer in my trunk! lmao just kidding.. Let's load up a USB Stick full of FLAC files please! Now, I just need to know what's the maximum size USB Stick that the head-unit can recognize? Hi-Res files aren't exactly small. No HD radio? Bummer. Everything is starting to trend back OTA these days and HD Radio is a huge missing feature. Imagine playing music/video from your PLEX server from home on this head-unit? Imagine this head-unit having a cellular SIM chip slot for extra connectivity? I can live without HDMI, just allow me to stream and receive data directly without connecting a mobile device! There is so much here that can be improved upon. Maybe I DON'T need this head-unit. #SonyXperiaMobileES 😉

  • @JeffAdairKTM530
    @JeffAdairKTM530 Před 2 lety

    Dasaita 13.3 vivid for the win - best 1080p headunit on market - use something else of the source

  • @nkhilmajgaonkr
    @nkhilmajgaonkr Před rokem

    I have this head unit installed in my VW Vento. I am facing lot of lagging issues while using Android Auto. Any suggestions?

    • @zache.1099
      @zache.1099 Před rokem

      Did you get this sorted? Are you using idatalink? Do you have the latest firmware update?

    • @nkhilmajgaonkr
      @nkhilmajgaonkr Před rokem

      @@zache.1099 the dealer was able to upgrade the firmware however Android Auto still has lagging issues making it unusable to listen to music while driving.

  • @akayla5435
    @akayla5435 Před 9 měsíci

    IF Sony was really serious about their "elevated standard" they'd inlcude a blu-ray/dvd/cd player in their flagship model. That would rock the entire industry.

  • @randomhobbies5796
    @randomhobbies5796 Před 8 měsíci

    Them steering wheel controls are a pain. Instructions sucks too. This unit is way too expensive for not being able to play video

  • @kutzaudiolive979
    @kutzaudiolive979 Před 7 měsíci

    NO OPTICAL OUT.....bad

  • @Singkhorn.S
    @Singkhorn.S Před 2 lety

    no HD Radio ?!? total deal breaker.

  • @MrKushinator420
    @MrKushinator420 Před 10 měsíci

    Why have a 10 inch screen if you can't wirelessly mirror videos, or play dvd's. What a bore. Can get same sound quality from a 200 dollar single din sony unit.

  • @davidtaylor6772
    @davidtaylor6772 Před rokem +1

    It is so wild that people who know nothing about engineering, manufacturing, or finance are complaining about bezels 😆

  • @dylonabubo7513
    @dylonabubo7513 Před 9 měsíci

    Its so pricy 🥲

  • @toyolab5861
    @toyolab5861 Před rokem

    Which one would you recommend this unit or the pioneer 3800