New Best Beginner Bike! CFMoto 450SS First Ride and Review
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I hope it puts pressure on Japanese bikes to add cruise control and electronics on sub 10k motorcycles
bro i think someone tossed you some cash to ignore the exhaust note and how it it sounds like shaving metal xD like a damaged ball bearing for a computer fan or something
Not gonna give my money to a CCP company, so Imma stick with my trusty Kawi.
I just bought one on June 30th so far so good! I'm loving it.
@@Merc399naw bro it's a 270° crank it sounds awesome. His mic does not do it justice.
I hear the CFMOTO 450 SS comes standard with the ability to piss off "that uncle" at family events.
Is full metal corgi a chatgpt ?
@@ellwoodwolf As an AI I am unable to answer that question
I hope you can figure out mopac traffic then.
@@ellwoodwolf nukes will technically solve the problem.
If my black uncles who all ride Asian sport bikes and love classic dubbed martial arts movies. Saw me on this with some hentai stickers, they would love me more. Instead they judge me for buying abused 125cc scooters so I can afford to drive my V8 ute.
Bro I swear to god I passed you on my Ibex on the day you took this thing out! I was headed into the canyons as you were headed out.
I had a feeling that was you lol
No shame….
Chaseeee :D
Hi. I have been riding for nearly 2 decades and use this to daily comute. I just bought the CF Moto 450 because of its drop dead gorgeous looks and its ultra smooth engine and gearbox. As a 50 year old, I thought that the more aggressive riding stance (especially coming from a upright naked Duke) might be too much for me, but I have not had any issues with any back or wrist pains (even on long days out in the country). I use to own a triumph thruxton nearly 10 years ago, and I had really bad back and wrist pains after 1 hour of riding it. The fact that I don't get pains on this bike is a big plus.
I will start with the bad points I've experienced so far. This one is not a huge problem, but one to note. The sat navigation has taken me to places that I've not entered once or twice when I've gone out to the country side. It also couldn't find a popular town that a lot of people go to. So while I like that it has in built turn by turn nav, I wished they had installed Google maps instead of their own system, but since I don't use the navigation (except to try it out that day), it's not a problem for me.
Second, and more of an issue for me... I think the fuel economy is high for a 450. I know it's still in the breaking in period, but at 4.6L per 100k's (what I'm getting so far), it's pretty bad, especially since I'm quite careful with it during run in. That's nearly what a Hornet 750 or a Duke 790 gets.
Lastly, and this is a minor gripe, but I wish that the kick stand was around a cm longer. It feels like the bike wants to go over when you stop on anything but a flat surface.
Another really bad thing about this bike is the preconceived ideas people have about the brand. While I would not recommend cfmoto's earlier bikes, their collaboration with KTM and its in-house designers have paid off and has been proven in all the great reviews this bike has been getting.
Even so people will come up to you and ask what make and brand the bike is. Then you have to explain.. it's CF Moto. , oh... they'll say. Then you have to let them know t's a Chinese company. They really need to change the name of CF Moto to something else, something that rolls off the tongue easier.
It's hard to justify and explain who they are and what the CF in CF moto means. I think that we are all use to other big brands being made from China, but saying that name Cf Moto, doesn't bring pride to the ownerships even if this is a top of the class bike.
I mean, look at the other up coming Chinese brand Kove (pronounced Kove'), it sounds fancy and more a kin to a top quality/premium bike.
Cf Moto should follow suit so that they can increase their brand loyalties. Even though I like this bike, I would not wear any of their merch.
Am I worried about the fit finish and reliability? Not at all. CF Moto has been around for a long time in Australia. This bike is solid and put together very well. It has a 3 year factory warranty which is longer than nearly all the established makes. Also considering CF Moto makes the engines for the Ninja 400, it would not suprise me if this is the same engine bored out to 450cc with a 270° crank shaft instead of 180 and they've called it their own. May be this the exact engine that KTM and cfmoto were working on before KTM pulled out of building the Duke 490 range.
Thats it for the bad stuff. What I love. The looks. The front a rear winglets are a first to market in class and give it an aggressive and unique look to a otherwise mundane cbr-r sport bike template.
I also like that it has a nice big, bright tft with optional 2 display layouts and lots of features, some of which include rev shift alert, over speed alert so you don't speed too much over and loose your licence, the forementioned sat navigation, from phone to Bluetooth call with music controls from the switches, a bike tracker with geo fencing alert. You can also track your bike if your friend borrows it, or it gets stolen and moved anywhere in the world. This has a greater advantage for owners because when I told the insurance company that It has it, they lowered my insurance premiums, all of which is not on the Ninja 400... yeay!!!
It does have a bigger bike feel and you do feel it when you throw your legs over it to start, but the bike does shrink around you when you move at normal paces, but when you push it, I do feel that the bike feels like it's bigger than what it actually is again, which is really wiered but not in a bad way. Not a sensation I've felt before.
I love how sure footed this bike is at any speed. It always feels really planted, stable and grippy. Pulls from 3800 rpm comfortably. The slightly more tucked in hunkered down position is comfortable as long as your not over 5 10-11". A really big thumbs up. It's really manuvrable and easily threads through tight and heavy peak hour bumper to bumper traffic (even with those big long mirrors out which was a big suprise).
And have I mentioned how smooth it is. The engine is silky smooth, It also sounds good from factory. I like the pops and burble sounds it makes when down shifting. Almost like a softer quieter C63 merc. Like the C63, I wish the muffler also had the quiet and loud pass through valve to really give it a bit more rumble on the road and a quiet mode so the neighbours don't get angry option at 5am start up.
For people who say it's only a beginners bike, I would urge you to think twice. You can only go as fast as the speed limit these days, so anything over a 500 to 600cc is posturing. This bike has more than enough power to get you out of trouble, it does also allow you to have fun while being much safer. It has a much lower rego and insurance cost compared to a big bike and much, much, much cheaper to buy. While I think beginners will love it, it is a great real world conditions bike for everyone under 5.10".
The price. For what you get, it's a hell of a deal.
Thank you for a wonderful owners-review and especially from a fellow Australian perspective. If only I wasn't 6'1" I'd likely trade in my Ninja 650L for this little weapon!
-Kawasaki builds the N400 engine themselves (Kawasaki heavy industries)
-The N400 makes the same power and torque outside of socialist nations like Australia and the EU; with 52 less CC's. This is a testament to CFMoto's subpar engineering.
It's a fantastic bike, and a needed a slap in the face to the beginner motorcycle industry - but let's not get out of hand. The Japanese bikes are still superior in almost every way, especially in regards to power per CC, fit and finish, reliability, and dealer support.
@@joshgts9675that’s not entirely true considering how restricted the 450sr’s come from factory.
The jap bikes finitely don’t beat the 450srs in a lot of areas
@joshgts9675 well “power per cc” is going away now because the new aprilla RS457 making just 47hp in a 457cc engine. higher than 449cc of 450sr
Or your new ninja 500 making 45hp in an 451cc
Nope. That's only in socialist nations like Australia and the EU. Free democratic nations like Canada and the U.S.A will have the 58hp version.
This is the same engine used on their Eliminator model, so we already know the specs. @@Leoone_1029
Just got mine last week and I can't stop smiling while riding it. The ergonomics are fantastic, not too aggressive, not too relaxed. Brakes are good. Transmission is smooth. Sounds like a V-twin. And most importantly, it looks better than most of the other motorcycles in its class.
Man, everyone is really singing the praises of this motorcycle. It would really be a good thing for Cfmoto to be the “real deal” with their products. It would increase the availability of parts, aftermarket items, and the competition with Japanese and European bikes would be good for pricing for all of us. Good review!
Listening to this on my cardo neo. Thanks for the discount, Spite!
Thumbs up for a great video and perfect audio
HELL YEAH!!!!!! Almost spat my coffee out seeing the thumbnail in excitement!
Yeah I just picked one by today. I love it so much
I'd love to see a longer term review of these CFMoto bikes. Something like a 10K or 20K mile review. They seem great from the factory, but it would be nice to know how they hold up long term.
I've got 6000 on my CL/X Heritage. It's a very fun bike. The only issue I've had is that once it was entirely dead, disconnected and reconnected the battery and it was back to normal, that was 2000 miles ago. Zero issues apart from that. The fueling is bizarre in eco mode but I just stay in sport mode.
If I can get my hands on one for a while I'd love to do that. Chase on Two Wheels road his Ibex to Sturgis
Don’t hold your breath…if a CF moto actually makes it to 20k miles I’d be stunned 😂
I was looking at them last year, all I could find about long term quality was a guy in Asia who had pre-mature wear and he could easily get parts and repair himself... not sure about parts in USA/Europe
@@localenterprisebroadcastin5971 Why? You think the same thing of KTMs? Because the sub 800cc KTMs are made in the same factory. They also made Kawasaki engines for a few years and those aren't exploding. I'm very happy with mine and I'm not seeing anyone in the CFMoto forums having any significant issues at all.
The ZX4RR is a very anticipated motorbike but only from a niche of a niche group of people. You have to be the kind of person to CHOOSE one over a second hand ZX-6R or an MT-09 for the same price. The 450SS is gonna be the kinda bike open to every new rider.
Your note about the black/silver colorway looking like an Aprilia is exactly what I thought the first time I saw one of these on the road. Guy had an aftermarket pipe on it, and it looked and sounded like an Aprilia. Blew my mind when I got next to it and saw what it was.
I've had this bike since it came out. I get asked all the time if it is an Aprilia. 😂
Great video. Great bike😏
getting mine on wednesday and will be making reviews and mod vids so hyped
Did u?
Awesome video! Your details in the comments show you do your research and remind me why you're among the best reviewers on youtube, Spite!
A lot of videos on this bike talk about it as an "amazing beginner bike"... I'm actually in the camp of people willing to 'trade down' my 600 to get one of these machines as the package and styling really appeal to me. Do you think these bikes hold the same level of "awesomeness" to an experienced rider as it would to a beginner? Or would they eventually miss the power of previous bikes?
I think its a case of it is more fun to ride a slow bike fast then a fast bike slow. The 450SS is kinda of in that sweet spot.
The 450SS was surprisingly fun, but that 700 CX-L was sooooo much fun!
I own them both. Fun
That intro music is 🔥
Demoed one today, It rides like a much higher end bike, just with only 50hp. I'm also 250lbs and the suspension felt fine, the Brembo brake was great, and the fueling and overall feel of that motor is incredible for a $5500 beginner bike. No jerky throttle response, blipping off downshifts is super easy and that little motor loves to rev. 80mph on the highway, no buzz at all.
Got my 450sr here in Australia as my 2nd bike! put 2500km on it over a few months and I love it! I weigh 110kg and am 6 foot 8 and it still has a bunch on tap for me. An awesome machine and definitely bang for buck!
Keep people updated, we want to know how it goes
not too cramped on long rides? im just 6'1 so i should be fine?
@@moxigen its a little tight in the legs. A bit bunched up but there is plenty of relief in the clip on height.
@@mjcustoms1398 interesting, i guess i ll try it out. thx!
Thx bro for the feedback, I’m 6’4 n was worried I’m to big 🤙
Hopefully this is my Christmas present 🤟
Reliability ? Parts availability? Dealer network? Resale value?
I’ll make my judgement when I see long term owners reviews with bikes that have covered 30 plus thousand miles.
Do you know anything about cf moto?
Don’t know , don’t know, sorta some places and ZERO- lots of people defending cfmoto, but there’s not evidence to support their claims
Can always count on Spite to have the sickest fucking riffs in his videos. 🤘🤘🤘
Im just here for the sick heavy metal at the intro.
Great video! Who plays the outro music for you? If you could point me in their direction, that would be great, thanks.
I'm glad the King of beginner motorcycle Ninja400 has some real competition now. My only concern with CFMoto will just be reliability and aftermarket support. It's kinda like KTM's RC390; great bike but was plagued with reliability issues and lack of dealership in most places (non-existent here in Japan)
Another fact which won't affect US riders but does for most parts of the world, anything above a 400cc displacement (or thereabouts) is usually a tier above the standard motorcycle license. Meaning in places like Japan, your standard motorcycle license only allows you to ride up to 400cc displacement, which explains why historically there has been many in this category, inc the new ZX4rr. This bike seems pretty sweet, especially for a new rider but outside the US, I don't see it being very popular because of the tiered licensing and I doubt anyone will take the time and effort to get the unlimited license just to ride this over all the others.
Spite I have not had one thing loose on my 450SS. Build quality is better than most all I looked at.
ive definitely been interested since i first saw the 300 and now with this 450... i may have to find a local dealer.
Idk dude, that 24 ninja 451 SE comes LOADED with tech and a badass package 📦 👍🏻
Hi Spite. I bought a brand new CF MOTO 450RS motorcycle and from new, gear changes were rough and it had vibrations. After the first service, the bike felt a lot worse, and engine was over heating sporadically. At 1400klm I realised when the dealer said that it was normal and I had taken the bike back 6 times, back to the dealer, I investigated the problem and found the dealer was filling the oil to below the empty level. When I toped up the oil, it took 750ml to get it to the full line. That's 1/3rd oil missing since new.
In the cf moto user manual it states that the oil should only be filled to below the low line, but in doesn't say if this when the bike is on the side stand or upright on a service stand. Turns out they were filling it up on the service stand in the upright, and those instructions were for the bike being on the side stand. So dealer was filling my bike and some others short of oil.
Engine now sounds rough compared to new bike and I am hearing a slight ratting sound. Can you please tell me, during this crucial run in period, what is the potential damage to the engine and gear box? I think during the crucial 1000klm run in period not having enough oil to meet even the bottom line of the low indicator mark would have caused damage, but dealer said no, it's o.k..
Hope you get on the 2023 CLX 700 heritage it has the new ADV electronics. Offroad mode and switchable abs and traction control. Got mine in april and i love it.
Im happy that every gigle on bikes isnt just me 😂
For me the buttons feel better than anything I've touched on a yamaha, that being r7 mt03 and mt07
The buttons on the 700 sport I sat on last year were absolutely the worst looking part of the quality- they were nowhere near my mt-07
While you are at it Hangzhou is a great tea export as well.
Really dig this video. Excellent example of a light bike being wonderfully stable
CFMoto coming hard at the Japanese companies...they are even building a factory in Mexico on the border to build these bikes for the American market. CFMoto could be as disruptive to the motorcycle market as Honda was in the 1960s. At first people laughed them off because at the time a bunch of Japanese products had a reputation of being low quality. CFMoto seems to have done their homework when it comes to quality control and if they can shake the stigma caused by the other Chinese bike companies maybe they will force the Big 4 to innovate some more.
Building engines for KTM and Kawasaki make you do your homework on QC pretty quick.
Exactly. These bikes are absolutely premium. NONE of the big 4 come anywhere close in terms of fit & finish.
What I'm seeing is the CFMotos value drop off a cliff once purchased. I'm tracking them on Facebook Marketplace and nobody is buying them. Nobody is buying them used, The bikes just sit. You can't hardly give them away used. They remind me of Beneli's. Personally I won't spend more than $2500 on a used one that is in pristine condition with less than 5K miles. I would rather spend $4500 to $5500 on Japanese every day all day.
if they do that, and the CCP doesn't see a dime of that money... I might be able to get behind it.
@@spartanx169x you have a very negative mentality towards the market
CF Moto is killing it
....hmm, their 800 naked makes a good case.
I’m super curious to see people begin to really modify these thing and see what they are capable of!
Amazing, amazing bike. As a beginner I'm having a ton of fun on it. Would recommend it to anyone looking for a starter sport-bike.
I just got the 300nk a month ago. Would be interested in a review of that.
I'd like to see some options from CF Moto. I'd buy a NK700 with the spoke wheels from their adventure bike and the Brembo's off the SS.
I’m 6’6 220lb and a 34in inseam do you think I’d fit on this bike?
I've been so hyped on these when I went to the local dealership with my buddy to look at a ZX6R. They have a new stock of the 450SS in. The salesman walked up started talking to me about the 450SS. Then I had to tell him everything he was wrong about, all the things he didn't know like the built in GP clutch. 😂😂😂 I ended talking the guy into buying one of his own bikes 😂😂😂
I LOVE STURGIS! What a beautiful part of the country! The rally is fun too 😉
any update on the cf450ss champ school thing ? that would be. good one :D cheers
Do you or your buddy have a video on the CLX 700?
If you in the market for a sport bike and you are using your own money would buy this bike or a ninja 400?
I'm seriously considering this ride, How is the power in 4th gear at highway speeds? I see that you stayed in 3rd gear most of the time...
Spitee, what would you suggest for a complete beginner? this biker or Svart 401? I am 6"2 around 250 pounds.
A 650 class bike would be better
The thing to remember is this engine was being developed for KTM but they decided not to enter the middleweight market and they also make other engines for KTM and yamaha and frames for some of the yamaha MT series so it’s not a newbie company. I’m downsizing so I need to take one out for a ride it’s really growing on me. Amazon sells a screen protector for the display already😂
Is it uncomfortable for tall people? im like 1,88 and want to buy my first bike, its either cfmoto 450sr/ ktm rc 390 or aprilia rs 660.
I hope the 800 NK comes to the states.
As a person that's interested in purchasing a a 400 class motorcycle, my concerns are the following: 1) accessibility to services spare parts, 2) are the aforementioned parts interchangeable\compatible with KTM motorcycles?
I am currently on the weightless feeling 300NK. My local dealership has both the 300NK/SS and the 450SS, and honestly don't know why the 300 exists here in the USA. If I was not looking at the 2022 leftover 700CLX models in the brass rim Heritage bike, this would likely be the one. I am trying to get my wife to get one of these so I can put miles on it for her lol.
I have the 22' 300nk. I bought it last year and I still would've gotten the 300 if the 450 was out at that time because it cost me 5k out the door with a 3 year warranty. Plus it's my first bike ever. I don't need much more to learn the ropes. Just basic, cheap, and easy to fix for a beginner rider.
I have the 22' 300nk. I bought it last year and I still would've gotten the 300 if the 450 was out at that time because it cost me 5k out the door with a 3 year warranty. Plus it's my first bike ever. I don't need much more to learn the ropes. Just basic, cheap, and easy to fix for a beginner rider.
The stealership I was at today said they usually sell the 300 to track folks.
I love my 450ss
Sir, you need to keep spites corner updated with how it goes
Can we see a review of the new Honda CB500F?
It has inverted forks and dual disk front brakes now.
how is the ergo for a taller person on this one? 1,84 m about 6'1.
Nice review, I wish you would have included Josh's ride and opinion since you know, he was there and rode it and is a lighter rider...just saying and enjoy yer channel
you should check out the 650NK and 300NK. I test drove them 2 weeks ago and holy crap really nice bikes, nice stock packages.
They're nice but I find the engines a bit bland. Very similar to a Z650.
Everybody thought the Ford Pinto was hot stuff when it came out too; unfortunately we all found out how correct they were. 🚗🔥🚙
@kenbowlus2995 I don't quite understand the point you're trying to make. The danger of the pinto, while apparent, was overstated.
@@spitescorner that's because it basically is. It uses a retooled er6n engine.
I'm going to a dealership after work to go look at these.
Does anyone know how big he is? He mentioned feeling a bit cramped just trying to compare to myself @ 6'2" 250lbs
Wow, this must be the 6th cfmoto 450 review I've seen in the past 2 weeks. Cutting edge
Yeah, this bike is getting more air time than anything else I’ve seen - pretty much all good reviews.
Did you have it in eco mode the whole time?
Quick question: Is it possible to lower the rear suspension to accommodate a short rider? My daughter is 5'3". Her 2011 Ninja 250r I installed lowering links, it brought the seat down about 3 inches.
Did you get a answer for this question? I'm looking for a bike for my wife and she's 4.9
Now im really happy cause i just put a deposit down for one of these a week ago :D
Hey Spite. Please review the TVS Apache RR310/ BMW G310RR if you ever get the opportunity....
I’m really surprised Yamaha didn’t put the 270 crank in the R3 and but up the displacement just a hair
Recranking an engine is worse than boring up the displacement, it is really difficult since you basically ditched the axle and everything. Might as well create a new engine, for manufacturers.
I really enjoy CFMOTO going to several type of bikes and really trying to go after big company and actually making competition in a market that feels stale
there is a 450CLC soon from cf moto.. a classic bike using 450sr engine
Does it only have 3 gears? :o
It costs as much as a Ninja 400 here, or around €7500. There's 2 main issues here that'd keep someone like me from buying them. The biggest one is not having any dealers nearby. The other one is there's no real used market for them. A used Ninja 400 is cheaper, and if/when you want to move on to a bigger bike, you won't be losing much money on it. Meanwhile the CFmoto probably tanks in value the second you buy it.
Still, very exciting to see this competition for the best A2 sports bik., Aprilia is also working on a RS440, I wonder how competitively priced that'll be.
Also no real aftermarket parts yet and I hear even oil filters are hard to come by. But if the bike is reliable for the next few years and they get some after support I could see it being the go to beginner bike. But it’s an uphill battle being Chinese.
@@butsargeee No oil filters? You can order 10,0000 online if you want
is the SS different with SR? Ive been seeing yt videos review on CF moto 450 SS and 450 SR
No ss is what the US model is called
Wait what!!!! I wanted a 300 but couldn't find one in white but this now is it!!
If you have the money get a 650. I got a Z400 and it's been a great fun bike with 49bhp. But you'll get used to it very quickly. I'm 140lbs and got used to it in a matter of days(and it's my first bike). If you want the quality and v twin get an SV.
@@county_bear9509 I already have a mt-07 that's my profile picture. But there isn't much of a price difference between it and the ninja so I'd still get it it looks like.
@jtaylorb88 oh my bad man. I didn't notice your pfp. I'm sure it'd be a great second bike then
@@county_bear9509 I was going to just get a R7 but even with the same engine the insurance was triple the cost of my MT, crazy.
Hey spite I just bought a 450ss in the red and black color I was wondering how you mounted your insta 360 looking to mount it there
It's pinched on one of the clip ons
@spitescorner Thank you so much for replying im a big fan for sure rode the 450 for the first time and im in love
Bro Spite …. Love your content mate.. but you are looking like a fire 🔥 hazard.. have a trim champ and you’ll look like a new man ..👌👍
I’m an experienced rider and got one because it caught my eye at a dealership. Let me just start off with it’s an amazing experience. I like it more than my h2! I have a few other bikes as well and this one beats them all. Every turn is fun, the looks make me happy and all the aftermarket parts are affordable. I put a slip on exhaust on and it sounds like a smaller ducati 899. The features beat all other sport bikes in the category and in the Facebook groups no one has had an issue with theirs. This bike absolutely kicks the other brands in the pants and they better start to rethink their beginner models. If you have any questions feel free to ask and I’ll get back with you.
Which FB groups? The main FB group for the 450ss as well as the 300's have reports from more and more owners about failed or failing ignition coils, along with intermittent dash issues.
Also a few threads floating around about cfmoto side by side engines with low hours/miles failing prematurely. Give it a few months and you will most likely see the same thing from these newly released bikes
Reality isn't as rosy as the picture your painting for the brand.
Sarcasm 🤭🤭
Why u shilling for this brand? They pay u??
@@rich213salIt definitely has the paid review by a foreign actor vibe to it. "The looks make me happy. I like it more than my h2".
LMAO
How does it feel on extensive rides? I’m 5’10 so would the seat position or anything be uncomfortable after a long time? I live in California so I might be on it for like a while during some rides ??
got about 500 miles on mine - at how many miles should i bring it in to get it serviced for the first time?
Way late but, check chain after first hundred miles and every week after for play shift. Oil change at 600 then every 3k. After every chain adjustment clean and relube.
Well seeing as how it cost almost as much as a Kawasaki I would hope that it would perform at least 90%
Curious about how durable the motors are?
They are 'based' on KTM engines... whatever that means. Btw CFMoto assemble engines for KTM which could well explain why KTM reliability seems to be a bit hit or miss in the QC department. Higher than average gasket failures, coolant leaks etc etc just look on the KTM forums.
It wouldn't surprise me if they at least share some parts.
It might be $800 than a ninja but at least with the ninja I know reliability is more likely going to be very good... and it's resale value will also recoup most of that $800 compared to the CFMoto.
The 300SR was so beautiful, and now they made the 450SR which is even more beautiful. However, CF Moto is not a cheap brand. Premium Chinese.
I wonder if they'll make an A2 compliant version for Europe since they only need to drop 3hp. I reckon that could allow it to be a big seller here. Especially since there's already a large Chinese market for 125s and even a bit in 250s.
They have a A2 compliant variant. We have that spec here in Australia even though we dont have the A2 rules here. It's 46 hp
It's A2 compliant. It's 50HP (at the crank) but 47BHP (HP at the wheel). CFMoto just markets it for its BHP spec there to legally pass A2.
How did your lower half feel compared to the ninja 400? I can’t find a 450ss near me and we’re basically the same size so your opinion will be valuable.
I'm the same size as spite, for me personally I enjoy the pegs and never found myself having to force my legs to meet them like I do on an r3, a ninja is a bit more upright but if you're over 6 ft the higher sets on the cfmoto don't make much of a difference, if you got thick legs the smaller rider triangle may be uncomfortable after a long straight ride but that's down to preference and what you're willing to trade off.
I have ridden almost all the cfmoto bikes now and have been simping on them all year lol. I just rode a bmw gs 1200 and the cfmoto ibex800 back to back and for a third the price you get everything the bmw has besides a shaft drive.
And I'd rather have a chain anyway, can't replace a drive shaft on the highway.
It's more aggressive below the belt but not uncomfortable. They have adjustable rear sets as an option
@@Ortisan_Official first off thanks for the input. I’m 6’4 235 pounds 34 inseam and I’m as beginner as they get. While I felt a lot more comfortable on bigger bikes, I plan to ride a 400 until I get all the fundamentals down. The ninja was 10x easier on my knees than the r3 lol. For now I’ll keep searching for a cf before I make a decision.
@@spitescorner i appreciate the response man. I’m new the the lifestyle so I didn’t think of that. I just researched rear sets for the ninja and think it’ll make the difference that I want. When I sat on the ninja 400 I wasn’t uncomfortable but I did feel like if my legs were an inch or 2 shorter it’d be perfect.
Hysung are Built in South Korea are Awesome Motorcycles
I am wondering if we at the cusp of a new era where the Chinese do to the Japanese what the Japanese did to the British. Could the majority of us be riding Chinese bikes in 5-10 years, and only the upper echelon be riding Japanese/Italian bikes.
One thing that it does way better than the Ninja 400: my foot doesn't fight with the exhaust for space! When my feet were on the pegs, they were only on the pegs, not fighting with the exhaust for room
Test rode the cf 300nk & 650nk this past friday “cfdemo day”not gonna lie….leaning towards cfmoto than yamaha….
i sat on a cf moto. i weigh 45kg and im 162cm tall. It was way too heavy for me as the weight placement is higher on sport bikes.
I have long hair and ride. My ponytail has got rekt from riding, honestly I think I've lost a bunch from tangling and breakage. Or I'm just getting old.
What are your tips for taking care of that awesome mane?
I wear several hair ties to bundle it all together and keep the wind from tangling it
So just for the vids you fly free then? Seen.
Good advice.
And as always
I was entertained
Plait it my dude, it naturally keeps it together 👍
I aint got no gf! 😂
I hope my main man Spite will do a first ride and a review on CFMoto's Ibex ADV bike.
Stay tuned 😉
Imagine breaking a Chinesium part in the middle of off-road trip....
The adventure bike looks just as good
The thing I love most about CF is for the quality and specs you get with each bike it would be like minimum $2k more from every other major brand.
How is the vibration cruising at 75 mph? Most critical thing left out. 😮
It's not bad. Feels more like a v twin pulse than a ptwin buzz
@@spitescorner
That's good news. Could you ride it nonstop for 100 miles at 75 mph without your hands and feet going numb? How much do the mirrors vibrate at 75 mph? Thanks! 😆
what helmet are you wearing in this vid?
Bell MX9 Mips without the peak. It's my go to dirt helmet. I've got a link in the description if you want to check it out
I was a little skeptical at first but I think I am going to get it now. Plus it has a 2-year warranty. Thanks for the review!
Make sure you sit on it first depending how tall you are you might want to try something else.
Sure are a lot of comments on this thread that are hypocritical. "I won't buy Chinese it sucks" while posting from a desktop computer or phone that is made in China driving a Ford Raptor that has lots of Chinese “subassemblies” (“Globally sourced” is the term they like to use) imported from China for final assembly in a US factory. Even the new Harley MSF bikes are made in China. Not defending all the shit China does, just saying these CFMoto bikes are not your usual Chinese POS bikes of the past. The positive of this is it can force the Big 4 to bring high end features down to the lower end price points (like cruise control) to compete.
This is precisely the issue. Having worked in manufacturing that was slowly swallowed by Chinese parts and then eventually shut down I know first hand the problems this causes. It starts with 1 cheap option, then it's two, then it's all your favorite brands being built from parts that are sliced cheap, then all the big companies are bought out and become Chinese companies and you have no option but to purchase from one place. It's a big funnel.
If my Chinese phone breaks , I don’t run the risk of being mangled for the rest of my life.
Are you staying for the whole rally?
Just until people realize he’s a Harley simp on a klr650....
I'd like to see someone compare CF Moto to Hyosung. See which engine blows a gasket first.
CFMOTO are way better than older Hyosungs, those things were garbage from the factory. But pretty good once you replaced all the problem parts. The engines themselves were good. I can only speak from personal experience but I've had 2 of the 650 models and had no real issues. One is coming up on a decade old and still starts straight away. In Aus
16:08 says he doesn’t use the clutch when up shifting and then proceeded to use the clutch lol
He was downshifting
I'd like to know your thoughts on the 650 adventura.. I'm torn between that and the 450ss..
The adventura is pretty boring. I've got the 650tk which was a faired version of the 650nk that was sold in Asia, Europe and Aus. Same engine as the Adventura. The 650 platform has decent power but it's not exactly 'exciting'. I think the 450ss (SR here in Aus) looks waaaaay more exciting and fun, and it sounds better too
Traded my 22 650 for a Honda CBR 500r. Had tft issues and left my bike inoperable until it was replaced. Warranty covered it but I just couldn’t see myself staying with a brand that had issues after 9 months of purchase. Honda reliability sold me
@@davidcooper7212 fair enough! I'm not a fan of TFT screens at all. My 2014 650tk (look them up in Google) has a nice big analogue display with only fuel and KMs in
digital. It's super uncool but I much prefer it to tiny tfts you can't read in the sun. Good luck with the new bike mate
@@davidcooper7212 honestly, so long as they replaced it immediately (2 minute job) I don't know why you changed brands. Faulty electrical components like tfts happen across all brands, as they don't make them but source them third party. If it was major mechanical work or a lot of small things that required it being at the dealer all the time I'd understand 100%, but a cluster swap isn't a big deal. But hey, that's just my opinion. The Honda are definitely better built than the cfmoto but there's not much in it these days
@@chrispekel5709 they had to trouble shoot the issue. Wasn’t a two minute job. Tft display may have been out but bike wouldn’t start due to it as well. Also had issues with bike running warm all the time and would burn your legs up even at highway speeds. Think that was due to poor airflow around radiator. Let’s just say I was left stranded and on a motorcycle that’s a bad place to be.
They need that engine in an adventure bike with a 400lb or less wet weight with cruise control. Till then ill keep my Aprilia Tuareg 😉
How different is this bike from a mid 80's to early 2000s EX/Ninja 500?
Heaaaps better for sure
@@chrispekel5709 really? Same level of power and torque. Same relative weight. Same performance level. A solid kawasaki can be had for $1500 leaving the rest of the CF's purchase price for upgrades and modifications. I see a newer slicker package on the Same basic machine.
@@scottsingleton2951 I didn't say it wasn't better value, I just said the cfmoto is a better bike. Ride an almost 40 year old design and compare it to a 2 year old design and get back to me. Honestly mate, what the?
@@scottsingleton2951 better brakes, better suspension, better looks, fuel injection, better headlights, better sound, better handling, better looking (subjective), better fuel consumption. I'd still take a good ninja 500 over buying this new, but one is definitely better than the other
I really do think though, dealerships need to step up their game. Shitcan the little markups and get an honest price on the bike. I know they’re there to make money it just pisses me off royally that there’s an extra $1100 tacked onto the out the door price. I know not all dealerships are this way but they need to step up their game and really start focussing on the consumer and bring value to the marketplace. The fact that you can get some Chinese motorcycles in the United States mailed right to your front doorstep and then an afternoon go through it have it running and save some serious coin does not go well for the dealerships. Most people do not want to feel like they got bent over!