A visual reference to where the height of the combs on the handle might be helpful, like a cut out notch at the end of the handle next to the combs so it wouldn't add cost.
That seems like a legit idea. I guess it would be easy to add one on these combs if you already have them. It seems like it might be problematic to try to visually line up the notch perfectly with the shear line in the wild. That last millimeter will have to be done by feel anyway,
Just a line or carat etched on the handle that lines up with the top of the comb teeth. That would allow you a tactile feel and visual for the height of the comb in the lock.
Wow, thank you so much for this video. I have been trying to get my picks to work the past few days. I'm brand new to comb picking, and they weren't working for me. Now I know I was over setting them; you're the first person to properly show this technique.
So you are actually creating another sheer-line. Too high up and you've effectively kept the lock secured. I never knew that. No wonder they never worked for me.
I always push the comb all the way up because it is thinner than the diameter of the pins so I'll get a slight movement on the core letting me know the pins are out of the way and just the comb is binding - then I let drop the comb down slowly, letting the key pins drop onto the core, and finish turning the core.
Am I right to claim that any lock that you can open with a comb pick os badly designed? All you need to do is constrict the space above the pins and springs, right?
Yeah in a way. But I've recently heard from a guy who made his own lock that it isn't easy to get enough "springway" avoiding that. Your lock might be hard to operate or put much more wear on the springs (which we don't care about while Overlifting) when you simply make the room smaller. But it's certainly possible.
Lock companies who have had issues with it, since only lawsuits and such motivate them to spend the money, will use one or more longer drive pin or a weaker spring, where the comb has a better chance of not lining up right.
Best explanation i have seen yet brother!!! I have bought 4 different sets of comb picks, and the only ones that quasi-work are the covert instruments ones. Can you suggest a company to me please that honestly has good comb picks manufactured correctly. Not made in a sweat shop in china for 10 cents.
Every comb I've ever used was difficult to handle and grip because they are small. I have problems with both of my thumbs tho, and now they are developing arthritis. But during the video, I noticed how he used his other thumb as a fulcrum to gain leverage. I'm gonna give that a try.
cool thing that I saw you do was to put pressure on the bottom of the comb so the tip of the pick doesn't droop down. easier to keep it level with that technique. cheers :)
Nice. I'm positive a ton of people who have used them= never thought they weren't working because of being overset. I had the SO set, but I ditched them and I'm just gonna go with something more basic. I have never seen a 6 or 7 pin lock that you could do with that attack and then you end up having a bunch of tools you don't use. I'm kind of a completist so I like to have everything available but as I have progressed through trade/craft I find myself trying to always minimize what I have. Like, it's ok to own it, if you want, but there's no need to have it on you. The Chicago set is the same way. Does it work? Yup. Is it cool and easy to use? Yup. Can you use a city and wrench and get the same effect? Of Course. I'd rather just use 2 piece's then rifle through 4 tools, double-sided, so you have to flip each one, and try 8 times Max. Warded's the same way. I have a set, totally work, almost never find warded locks and when I do, I make not of it and bring it the next time. (I have never tried picking a warded, video idea maybe?)
I don´t kow if I should call this dedication to the task or just occupational damage to your soul, but thanks for making this when you should be sipping Mai Tais at the beach ;)
European lock pickers might want to know why their comb picks aren't working so good on some of the padlocks the likes of Mr Ollam and The Lawyer are opening with theirs. Well, we tend to have paracentric keyways, even the same lock, brand, size will have a nice wide keyway in the US and a tight, off-set (that is, paracentric) keyway on the European version. I made a video about it: czcams.com/video/4UDweNmpGog/video.html
OMG! Please say "Abus" again. That was amazing! On the other hand, has anyone had a 100% success rate overlifting Master Lock 140 series? For whatever reason my batting average is not so great on these things.
Surprisingly, a tropical island with influence from both Netherland and Germany is not hard to come by. There are a lot of them all over the world when I look at the map.
Please tell me what is wrong. Covert combs 16 dollars open the locks i tried it on. But the southord 50 dollar ones kn the same lock wont open them. The southord edges seem real sharp
I bought some to fill a space in a key bar and. Have to say I use them probly once a Week I use them and the few pis I have on there as well bc the ladies in the office at work forget there keys or Mae their keys and the the building manage gave me permission to do anything with a lock provided maintenance asks me to do my thing LOL i
Many of these brass padlocks are clones and the pins spacing is usually the same. At the end of the day, your 5 pins should fit the key size so there is not much room for making something very different. However, the keyway may be different and not allow a comb pick to enter. I live in France and all the Master Locks I have seen have the same open keyway as US models. But for Abus locks, there is no way I can fit a comb pick while US CZcamsrs demonstrate that comb pick attacks work on Abus. Their keyways are straight and wide open whereas mines are tight and very paracentric.
@@yom73 Yeah, I'd noticed Masterlock in particular have a global template. But as you've pointed out Euro locks have narrower keyways, I was wondering if the positioning of the pins might also vary. But thanks for the tip.!
Probably about the same. Once you get a feel for the pressure and keeping the comb level, the height adjustment goes fast. You won't know where exactly the comb is on the shear line so it'll take a few wiggles either way.
Dear Deev: I recently watched your "Guns and Privacy" video from NotACon 10... If you ever want to discuss this kind of thing, call me! I'm an Afg vet, gunsmith, gun shop owner, avid collector and shooter, etc... I know my way around an AR like you know your way around a Lishi pick... :) There are some flaws in the speech, however, and I'd love to address them with you... However, there are a lot of things I am 100% with you on. Again, would love to sit down and share ideas with you.
One thing I’m finding and correct me if I’m wrong, but combing master lock 140’s that are brand new are hard to comb. I can’t get the plug to turn at all. Ones that are used I can get easily. Why is that?
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We have to remember that comb picks are a LOW skill attack, they're not a NO skill attack.
Hammers are a low skill attack too. "no skill attack" is flailing and screaming
@@marcogenovesi8570 I'm sure you can find people who don't know how to use hammers properly.
I bought some mostly because as a bald man I wanted an excuse to buy a comb
I can't decide what to order! Yup, still combing through the store. I combed through the comb section rather quickly tho.
@@canadafree2087 If you are super ballsy, tell the cop you use the special comb to manicure your anal hairs?!?? Watch the cops reaction!
I bet you love so much you’ll never part with it!
Watching this swearing as I remember that I've always pushed the comb pick as high as it can go. Great video, thank you!
I legit always used a tension tool with these. Thanks for showing me how these are actually used lol
Mr LPL does a comb picking on a cutaway in his video 1434. worth checking out, if you want to see how this trick looks from inside the lock
For those interested, LPL also have a couple of the other main methods with cutaway including disc detainer locks, single pin picking and more.
A visual reference to where the height of the combs on the handle might be helpful, like a cut out notch at the end of the handle next to the combs so it wouldn't add cost.
That seems like a legit idea. I guess it would be easy to add one on these combs if you already have them. It seems like it might be problematic to try to visually line up the notch perfectly with the shear line in the wild. That last millimeter will have to be done by feel anyway,
Just a line or carat etched on the handle that lines up with the top of the comb teeth. That would allow you a tactile feel and visual for the height of the comb in the lock.
Wow, thank you so much for this video. I have been trying to get my picks to work the past few days. I'm brand new to comb picking, and they weren't working for me. Now I know I was over setting them; you're the first person to properly show this technique.
The fundamentals! Great in-depth content as always D. Making us smarter!
So you are actually creating another sheer-line.
Too high up and you've effectively kept the lock secured.
I never knew that. No wonder they never worked for me.
I'll usually just gently rock back and forth and it pops right open for me. I love my LPL covert tool.
big International Arms Trading vibe on that intro
I always push the comb all the way up because it is thinner than the diameter of the pins so I'll get a slight movement on the core letting me know the pins are out of the way and just the comb is binding - then I let drop the comb down slowly, letting the key pins drop onto the core, and finish turning the core.
Thanks! I managed to get some of the wafer locks that way but tons are crusty and regularly the keys go mia. This helps!
Am I right to claim that any lock that you can open with a comb pick os badly designed? All you need to do is constrict the space above the pins and springs, right?
Yeah in a way. But I've recently heard from a guy who made his own lock that it isn't easy to get enough "springway" avoiding that. Your lock might be hard to operate or put much more wear on the springs (which we don't care about while Overlifting) when you simply make the room smaller. But it's certainly possible.
Lock companies who have had issues with it, since only lawsuits and such motivate them to spend the money, will use one or more longer drive pin or a weaker spring, where the comb has a better chance of not lining up right.
@@leechowning2712 yeah! So it’s just lazy design if they don’t do that then, right?
How very dare you have an awesome job where you get to travel all over the world.
Just rewatched the lpl/modern rogue video where they do a comb bypass.
Timely.
Best explanation i have seen yet brother!!! I have bought 4 different sets of comb picks, and the only ones that quasi-work are the covert instruments ones. Can you suggest a company to me please that honestly has good comb picks manufactured correctly. Not made in a sweat shop in china for 10 cents.
Thanks for taking time out to give us another lesson.
Thank you! First good instruction on comb picks I have seen.
Very helpful, many thanks
Every comb I've ever used was difficult to handle and grip because they are small. I have problems with both of my thumbs tho, and now they are developing arthritis. But during the video, I noticed how he used his other thumb as a fulcrum to gain leverage. I'm gonna give that a try.
Looking like a boss with those shades. Safe travels!
cool thing that I saw you do was to put pressure on the bottom of the comb so the tip of the pick doesn't droop down. easier to keep it level with that technique. cheers :)
Nice. I'm positive a ton of people who have used them= never thought they weren't working because of being overset. I had the SO set, but I ditched them and I'm just gonna go with something more basic. I have never seen a 6 or 7 pin lock that you could do with that attack and then you end up having a bunch of tools you don't use. I'm kind of a completist so I like to have everything available but as I have progressed through trade/craft I find myself trying to always minimize what I have. Like, it's ok to own it, if you want, but there's no need to have it on you. The Chicago set is the same way. Does it work? Yup. Is it cool and easy to use? Yup. Can you use a city and wrench and get the same effect? Of Course. I'd rather just use 2 piece's then rifle through 4 tools, double-sided, so you have to flip each one, and try 8 times Max. Warded's the same way. I have a set, totally work, almost never find warded locks and when I do, I make not of it and bring it the next time. (I have never tried picking a warded, video idea maybe?)
No such thing as too hot and too sunny. Enjoy your work and take a bit of a vacation too if you can. Take care
Thank so much!
I was pushing the pins too high..
Take care ⭐️
5 pin comb will work on a 4 pin Master 140. Master never disappoints. lol Update: I did place a Red Team order and got several of these combs.
Nice one Dev, stay hydrated!
Good advice. If you could shoot followup on comb picking with more difficult keyways on padlocks that would be awesome.
That's the least paracentric abus lock I've seen in a long long time.
So it's like finding the lock's G spot then???
I don´t kow if I should call this dedication to the task or just occupational damage to your soul, but thanks for making this when you should be sipping Mai Tais at the beach ;)
you are serious about me being serious about comb attacks
European lock pickers might want to know why their comb picks aren't working so good on some of the padlocks the likes of Mr Ollam and The Lawyer are opening with theirs. Well, we tend to have paracentric keyways, even the same lock, brand, size will have a nice wide keyway in the US and a tight, off-set (that is, paracentric) keyway on the European version. I made a video about it: czcams.com/video/4UDweNmpGog/video.html
OMG! Please say "Abus" again. That was amazing!
On the other hand, has anyone had a 100% success rate overlifting Master Lock 140 series? For whatever reason my batting average is not so great on these things.
Looks like my wish for region specific tips came true!
Who has the best set of comb picks made out of decent material that work
St Maarten?
Thanks! Great tutorial!
He’s the Bob Ross of lock picking.
Surprisingly, a tropical island with influence from both Netherland and Germany is not hard to come by. There are a lot of them all over the world when I look at the map.
Cool video, thanks for sharing!
I have combs in my pick case at all times but I have a back up plan if they don’t work.
Any chances that master lock fixed that flaw on their 140s? This doesn't work for me
Are these thin like the LPL variety? Mine are cheapo's that work great but not key chain style!
All good, stay safe.
Dope!
it's a mustache comb I swear officer!
Hey Dev, what's the issue with saying what country you're in? It wouldn't hurt would it? It'd be a nice interest piece. Cheers.
"a lot of Dutch and some German influence where I am" oh so you're in Colonia Dignidad?
I *think* the trouble I am having is that the key ways in my few locks are too convoluted for the comb to stand up.
Please tell me what is wrong. Covert combs 16 dollars open the locks i tried it on. But the southord 50 dollar ones kn the same lock wont open them. The southord edges seem real sharp
Great vid thanks
great video dev!! thanks 👍👍🔒😎
I will
👍🏻
Pushing a little and wiggling is why I pay child support today.
Are you considering adding Mastodon to your litany of social media accounts by any chance?
I bought some to fill a space in a key bar and. Have to say I use them probly once a Week I use them and the few pis
I have on there as well bc the ladies in the office at work forget there keys or Mae their keys and the the building manage gave me permission to do anything with a lock provided maintenance asks me to do my thing LOL i
Thanks Dev! Am new to combs haven't really had to play with my combs - just one question though, are the pins spaced differently on Euro & US locks?
Many of these brass padlocks are clones and the pins spacing is usually the same. At the end of the day, your 5 pins should fit the key size so there is not much room for making something very different. However, the keyway may be different and not allow a comb pick to enter. I live in France and all the Master Locks I have seen have the same open keyway as US models. But for Abus locks, there is no way I can fit a comb pick while US CZcamsrs demonstrate that comb pick attacks work on Abus. Their keyways are straight and wide open whereas mines are tight and very paracentric.
@@yom73 Yeah, I'd noticed Masterlock in particular have a global template. But as you've pointed out Euro locks have narrower keyways, I was wondering if the positioning of the pins might also vary. But thanks for the tip.!
Is it generally quickest to push the comb all the way up and then back off until you've reached the right height?
Probably about the same. Once you get a feel for the pressure and keeping the comb level, the height adjustment goes fast. You won't know where exactly the comb is on the shear line so it'll take a few wiggles either way.
say it with me, push a little and wiggle.....
Well, I was doing that wrong! hahaha!
I have a comb pick stuck in a lock. Suggestions on removing in?
If wiggling it out won't work, use a thin stiff wire to lift the pins enough to remove the tool.
Is there a rule of thumb to know which locks are vulnerable to a comb?
You can look up a list of models.
A general way to tell is looking at the size of the lock and the way the keyway is. Extremely tight keyways are first line of defense against these.
The hood, did you wear the hood? Enjoy your time working.
They work a lot better with a nice big handle, easy to build but you never have it with you.
Ah, yes, assignment. :)
Dear Deev: I recently watched your "Guns and Privacy" video from NotACon 10... If you ever want to discuss this kind of thing, call me! I'm an Afg vet, gunsmith, gun shop owner, avid collector and shooter, etc... I know my way around an AR like you know your way around a Lishi pick... :)
There are some flaws in the speech, however, and I'd love to address them with you... However, there are a lot of things I am 100% with you on. Again, would love to sit down and share ideas with you.
This man's overseas on assignment?? Lemme find out hes giving those Russians the business in them elevators in ukraine
One thing I’m finding and correct me if I’m wrong, but combing master lock 140’s that are brand new are hard to comb. I can’t get the plug to turn at all. Ones that are used I can get easily. Why is that?