France and Germany Worked on a Fighter Jet You Never Heard Of
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- The Dassault/Dornier Alpha Jet was born at a time when the world desperately needed collaboration. During the 1960s, at the peak of the Cold War, the French and West German air forces got together to create an aircraft that would signify a new chapter between both nations.
Thus came to be a new trainer and attack aircraft that would see service well into the new millennium.
An incredibly versatile machine, the Alpha Jet was carefully designed by Dassault and Dornier to meet every requirement from both air forces, but also from many more interested parties around the world.
Still, there were higher expectations to surpass, as the aircraft would have to make it into the jet-powered era…
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"That I never heard of?" Seriously? I had a model of that airplane when I was like seven, and have considered it one of the most beautiful jets ever since.
Mine is from Matchbox, 1/72 scale!
hes going back to his old ways with the clickbait titles....this has to be one of the most iconic small military planes around...
It was one of my first aircraft models, too. Not sure what this dude is talking about.
it's also not a fighter jet lol...
During my military period I served at the BA 705 airbase in Tours. The Alpha Jet was heavily used in the fighter pilots school. This is an agile, robust, low cost jet perfect for training new recruits.
Worked for Kaiser Electronics for many years and developed the software (HUD and weapon delivery) for the Alpha Jet. spent 9 months at the airbase in Istres. The CCIP software was all developed in assembly language for an in-house dual processor each with a staggering 4K of 16-bit program memory. You could do a lot with a little back then. The pace during flight test was interesting. Two flights a day with the occasional request for a SW change between flights. Our German partner was then called VDO LUFTFAHRTGERÄTE WERK and provided maintenance and logistics support. Spent the next near-40 years working for Kaiser Electronics through the acquisition by Rockwell Collins working hardware development and systems engineering for countless fighters and other A/C.
Ok
Holy F***N smokes man, the thought of programing ANYTHING for a jet in assembly sounds like an unbelievably hellish experience. I'm completely shocked that you said this man. Been a programmer/engineer for 25 years and studied AI in gradudate school but I'd give up in a week or less trying that!
You can still do a lot with a little now, it's just that commercial programmers haven't been maintaining their skills.
At the end of the 80s and beginning of the 90s we had a server with 6 GB of storage space on which 14 people were simultaneously producing graphics and print data for 9 different mail order catalogues. We used the first generations of Machintosh computers. Back then you could really do a lot with very little. The skills to develop software that worked with almost no memory space, are no longer available today.
I ran parallel code in Fortran, the calculations truncated to simulated the 16 bits available. Biggest issue was managing memory. It was a big deal when the electrical designer informed me he couldn't implement sine and cosine in hardware. The memory was eventually expanded to 8K, but that was after the original flight test.@@derekzimmermann2551
Does anyone non-french also remember that this 60 year old jet is still active in the french air force for training and in the patrouille de France, the French air force exhibition group?
Not to mention it was designed with the constraint of being able to land on a highway ?
Yes yes, I assure you, a museum conservator explained it to me during a visit of the safran museum (,museum of airplanes piston and jet engines)
It was meant to allow refuelling and rearming the jet even if the airbases' runway were destroyed, you would just have to bring the supplies by truck,
Say what you want, but after seeing the Alpha's in action back in the eighties all I can say is that for the price...that little Jet is a Big Badass in the Ground Attack role.
Hell yeah. Wished I got a chance with that fast mover when I was in Germany in the early 80's
@@Kenny-oy5zi Saw Starfighters doing ground attack in REFORGER 83. Wow!
@@schlirf cool. Got a chance to do a air strike with a 104 in '82
@@Kenny-oy5zi as long as it wasn't in an A-10 coming in on my CAV platoon "Somewhere" in Franken. (wiped us right off the maneuver box)
@@schlirf I was assigned to the 3/7 CAV 1981-1983
Starting from 8.15 you can see the current king of Belgium Filip entering an Alpha Jet.
He was a trained fighter pilot and currently still flies helicopters.
The Alphajet is the workhorse of the Nigerian Air Force for CAS missions, served with distinction in Liberia, Sierra Leone, ops against Boko Haram, (still ongoing) 2 were despatched in the operation to force the Gambian leader to accept the results of the election. Another 2 were sent to Mali pre Op Serval, one unfortunately crashed and the Nigerian contingent didn't really do much there but otherwise I'd be surprised if there is any other air force that has used it in combat as much as the Nigerian Air Force. Some good videos on their Air Force CZcams page as well
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You didn't mention that the French Air Force precision aerobatics display team _"Patrouille de France"_ have flown the Alpha Jet since 1981 (when it replaced the Magister), and 41 years later, they are still flying them. I saw the team display at several airshows in the late 1980s, including Farnborough, RAF Finningly, RAF St Althan and the Red Arrows 25th Anniversary Air Show at RAF Scampton in 1989. Very impressive they were, included in those displays was a maneuver that very few display teams do... a synchronized formation roll.. (not the whole formation rolling, but the individual jets roll while flying in formation. Not even the Red Arrows do this.
Thanks for the input, David Anderson. Most important info.
In the late 80's I was stationed in Great Britain. At one point there was a Luftwaffe Alpha-Jet parked in the visitors' hanger. It was so small that one could just look into the cockpit while standing flat on the hanger floor. A 27 mm cannon was mounted which took up the whole belly of the fuselage. Pretty neat little bird.
Not much difference to the BAe Hawk in any aspect actually. Just two turbines instead of one.
@@ab-te8kv Almost sister planes! (high wings vs low wings)
@@ab-te8kv it's like if you took a bae hawk to pieces and told a child with no arms to reassemble it
i always forget how big normal fighter jets are, i have never seen one in person so it can get hart to get a sense of scale
@@ab-te8kv When both aircraft showed up, yes. But the Brits were clever enough to improve and enhance the Hawk, while for some reason the French and Germans showed no interest in doing likewise with the AJET. That's too bad.
YEEEEEES I did not expect a video on the alpha jet at all, just built this thing in stormworks the other day
As a German kid in the 1980ties.. I saw them countless times in the skies above me training.. The kids of today have no clue whatsoever how dense the sky over Western Germany was with fighter jets and other military aircraft of all sorts, it was constant noice and shreeking in the skies (at least where I grew up in Heidelberg), it was the climax of the cold war
When I was visiting my grandparents in Germany, there was a fighter jet that would fly by with full afterburners on. It was a sight to behold
true. even when i was a kid back in the early 2000s there would be lots of activity. has been greatly reduced.
Alpha jet was My favourite plane when i was about 10, And i still like how they Look!
You never heard of it, but The Alpha Jet is a very well known plane developed and manufactured by a european consortium since beggining of 70s and used by at least 12 air forces world wide.
The Paf runs it for decades but he never heard of it.
Much more interesting and capable aircraft than I would've thought on first glance.
I live in the south of france very near of the training base of the Patrouille de france, I see alpha jets almost everyday and it's beautiful
The Alpha Jet is not unknown to me, because the Germans used it a lot in the portuguese airforce base in Beja, in Southern Portugal. Today it is used as a Helicopter base for the portuguese army.
I was as a flight surgeon with the German airforce in Beja in 1987/8 and flew in UH1D, Transall and Alpha jets. Great times, wonderful plane, wonderful place!
@@theonlymadmac4771 I couldn't agree more!!
There is one in the Portuguese air force museum (Museu do Ar) in Pêro Pinheiro.
@@YouHaventSeenMeRight.
The Portuguese Air Force used them for decades.!!!
The German version.
Can we get a video about the SEPECAT Jaguar? I'm very intrigued about the over the wing mounting location for air-to-air munitions.
They have made one with the Jaguar.
You forgot to mention that Dornier developed a version for Argentina based on the original alpha jet but with a single engine and manufactured in FMA Argentina called Ia 63 Pampa.
Small, beautiful, versatile, succesful, and an epic resemblance to a swallow, a very acrobatic, beautiful and elegant bird.
I worked in the 80s by Dornier and at the Alpha Jet, it was a nice little plane.
As a Google earth flight sim vet, the alphajet was one of my favorites
I can’t believe that you didn’t mention that the Alpha Jet has been the official aircraft used by “Le Patrouille de France” for the last 40 or 60 years. At least. Or did I miss it?
Same I was like "heh we are going to see some nice footage of the Pratrouille"... but no !
It doesnt bother you that its 2020 and your country is still using aircraft that were built in 1970?
@@dnandez79 Why would it ? If it's beautiful, agile and reliable, then it's great for showcasing aerobatics. Just like I enjoy seeing the beauty of a P-51.
Fast evolution is for combat aircraft.
@@dnandez79 How old is the T-38?
@@olivierduprez7810 The video says these were designed in 1970 and I think it said they were in production from 1974 to 1979
Another fantastically put together video with great narration, keep churning them out please 👍🏻🏴
Thanks for sharing this! Great video and informative content!
I was surprised to see Lockheed Alpha Jet on one of those airframes. Interesting! Looking like an able craft! Cool! Thanks for the peek!
Back in the 80's there is no aviation magazine that no talk about it... it was one of the most important joint-ventures of the time... Germany wanted it for ground-attack and france for training...
Germany's biggest problem with the F-104 is that they were using them for a role that is completely alien to what it was designed for. A very high speed,low drag high altitude interceptor being used as a light bomber flying very low. That's like buying A-10s and expecting them to fly supersonic air intercepts.
Corruption?
That was one of the problems, and there were more. But that one was impossible to correct.
@@christopherrobinson7541 There were several alleged cases of corruption in several countries associated with the purchase of the Starfighter. At least that's what was stated, but nothing was ever proved since Lockeed had the strong backing of the US Government. Just imagine how hard it must be to prosecute the manufacturer when quite probably the corruption was concocted between Governments. It should have been clear that the Starfighter was a bad choice in many cases; The Luftwaffe would have been much better served with the Mirage III or even the Hawker Hunter for Air Superiority duties, and for ground attack and maritime strike missions I believe that the superb Blackburn Buccaneer was offered and turned down, which makes no sense at all. In the early sixties the British and French Manufacturers had no qualms selling military aircraft to Germany anymore, and these choices could have gone ahead. (unless in the early sixties the Soviets retained the right to veto the purchase of twin engine combat aircraft for the Luftwaffe; I'm not sure. It is known that for many years the Soviet scum were able to preclude the Luftwaffe to operate four engine bombers - no problem here - and transports - quite a problem here, as it left them with the Noratlas and Transall for too long.
And so the Luftwaffe ended up buying not less than 916 Starfighters and crashing not less than 292, not to mention that in case of war the aircraft would have been almost useless, as we saw in Vietnam with the C model which did nothing really well and was considered a nuisance that was quickly kicked back to the States burdened with a very lackluster record. Meanwhile, all other American combat aircraft excelled. The Starfighter was an aircraft of breathtaking performance but a pretty limited combat aircraft. Speed and rate of climb are not everything, and the Starfighter always lacked severely in endurance, payload, rate of turn and all weather capability. It was likewise with the Mig 21, but unlike the Germans the Soviets rightly never considered using the Fishbed as a multirole aircraft. (In the beginning at least; In 2008 I met an Ukrainian, former Soviet pilot that had flown the Fishbed in the eighties in the USSR and East Germany and had only received training in close air support. Rockets, Gun. Bombs. No Air to Air training whatsoever. Go figure... now he was emigrant in Portugal, working in the construction sector and surely missed his youth, his L-29 and his Mach 2 Fighter. That's life.)
To complicate things further, it was soon found beyond doubt that the accidents the 104 suffered were far from having one single main cause. There were accidents due to loss of control, spatial disorientation, collision with the ground while straffing, controlled flight into terrain, lethal oxygen issues - remember the Starfighter who took off at night from Bremen only to have his pilot passing out after take off and crashing in Norway after fuel exhaustion - there were engine failures, collisions between elements of a formation, lightning strikes destroying critical electrical equipment, lots of birdstrikes in the Baltic, etc. On top of that, the earlier downward ejection seats were downright killers, their envelope was unacceptably limited and they should have never been certified! Survivability improved a lot after the conventional Martin Baker seat was installed.
One is left with the impression that everything considered undesirable and dangerous was allowed to be mated together. The average F-104G pilot came from the F-84F or F-86F. Only later they started to qualify first in the T-38 (In Luke AFB) or flying the Starfighter first in the clearer, more tolerant skies of my Portugal, from Beja AFB. (and even here they managed to crash occasionally) They were not in the least prepared to jump successfully from the Thunderstreak or Sabre to the brute 104; And the Starfighter itself in 1961 - the year she entered Luftwaffe service - had quite a bit to be improved too. So, we had pilots with limited experience in first generation Jet Fighters converting to the most unforgivable aircraft on Earth, that on top of that had been excessively modified and by itself already had an outrageously high wing load. What did they expect anyway? In 1965 losses had become so unacceptable and media attacks so violent - and rightly so - that the whole fleet had to be grounded to stop the killing, while the High Command, with Legends like Johannes Steinhoff, Gunther Rall or Erich Hartmann, tried to sort out all that muddle.
Along the sixties the F-104G safety records improved steadily and in the eighties the Luftwaffe Starfighter was one of the safest flying, until their retirement in 1987. This is often omitted. But the price paid will forever be considered unnaceptable.
Great Vid ❤❤
I heard they called it the 'Luft-Moped' it was a bit to light for its role, so only a moped instead of a car. But it was reliable and a good trainer.
I thought the Alpha Jet was only used as a trainer. Thank You for clearing that up for me.
This video might interest European viewers other than me too. However, you might consider using or showing also international units instead of only freedom units. The French and the Germans hardly designed a jet able to carry 5500lb worth of ordnance. More likely 2000kg.
This is a completely reasonable request and understandable. BUT it is an easily google-able thing to convert for whoever wants to. Or for the lazy (roughly) 2.2lbs = 1kg
@@DH-mw5rz if it can be easily corrected he can do it on the video and reach a bigger audience
Thank you for the comment.
@@ismaelf.telegen2531 videos .....already made, no sense in modifying for one detail that can be easily found out. It's a suggestion for "next time"
@@DH-mw5rz yeah it would be great if he put in the next time
Awesome Video! 💯
Love all Dark and love this voice...can never get enough.
Well as a French I do know the alpha jet, great training jet, could be used as ground support and is used by the French acrobatic team, quite difficult for us to do not know it 😉 BTW, great video
such an attractive looking jet and so efficient that Nick Fury of SHIELD had more than a dozen of these stationed on board his Heli- carrier in the first 'Avengers' movie.
An astoundingly beautiful aircraft!
It's one of those planes that just looks "right", if you know what I mean. Clean, elegant and nothing superfluous. A work of art.
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There you go with that, 'clean, elegant, white supremacist', hegemony...
You should know better than that.
@@mrgone658 Eh?
Still one of those very pretty jets, like the F-5. It also has those flap-doodle landing feet, which look similar to the Sepcat Jaguar, that suggest it doesn't roll on landing but instead waddles.
Got to have an entire training squadron from Canada park next to our hangar at brown field in these. Talked to the maintence guys. Neat jet, on the ground they look like little harriers.
it's interesting to watch them on a flight tracker as they hop across the country. usually in pairs though
They weren't trainers. They're used as aggressors by Top Aces
Alpha Jets also flew in British colours for several years, a fleet of 12 former Luftwaffe aircraft were operated by a British defence company called QinetiQ, in 2018 all 12 were sold to Top Aces in Canada.
The dudes helmet just after the two minute mark is rad.
Reminds me of the Rebel helmets in A New Hope
My first time seeing Alpha jets was because Top Aces brought them to Cold Lake for a Maple Flag exercise. Seen them more than a few times, since. First time seeing the French examples was at RIAT, with La Patrouille de France.
Alpha jets are in Cold Lake and Bagotville full time.
These are so nice to work on. I miss working at Top Aces.
Can you do BAE's Hawk 127 also? Great video
Was lucky enough to see Canadian operated ones performing training manoeuvres over CFB Greenwood during my cadet years. It was like a free air show.
Thank you for the good work and quality video.
May one suggest or hope to see the SEPECAT Jaguar?
Interesting design and beautiful.
It's impressive what Aircraft were designed in the 60s/70s, they were reliable and all while on a budget... keep in mind we had cars without anti lock brakes and so on back then.
Nowdays it seems manufacturers get away with anything as long as it fits the checklist of some politicians with absolutely no clue about any of it.
Most modern aircraft indeed are capable to avoid enemy radar, as they are always broken on the ground and thus far away from it... while the pilots struggle to meet their required flight hours.
Clearly the G.91 is insisting on making so many cameo appearance because it wants a video, too. :P
One of just a few developing programms that werde finished in time and cost. The german airforce had to let go there planes in 1997 because of cost cuts after the cold war. Aditionally nobody thought that there would be a use case for a light air to ground plane in the near future. Just 5 years later it would have been the perfect aircraft in the war against terror in Afghanistan.
nice -- forerunner to Concorde and Airbus D+F joint production arrangements
I heard about Alpha Jets back in the early 80's. Definitely a different design but its a cool plane.
Outclassed and outsold by the Hawk.
Alpha jet is the plane used by the "Patrouille de France" since 1981. So very good flight capacity at least.
This is the most beautiful jet I know
Hawk vs Alphajet was a great competition.
Thank you! 🇨🇦 Veteran
The argentinian FMA IA-63 Pampa was heavily inspired by this jet, as it was built with assistance from Dornier.
Estuve a punto de decir lo mismo. Es igual jajaja
@@microlinux Hay un boceto de un artista de Dornier fechado en 1968 donde prácticamente había dibujado al Pampa. Con un ala ligeramente diferente y una nariz mas aguda, pero el resto era identico al IA 63 incluso con la configuración monomotor. Era parte de los estudios de diseño para el Alpha Jet.
Creo haberlo visto en Secrets Projects Forums.
Tengo entendido que dornier lo "donó"... era un enteproyecto de una version monomotor de bajo costo... quien sabe... por ahí despues les compramos.un submarino o jeeps MB...
This channel never disappoints me.
I' m french and as much i am in love with the Alpha-jet, i think the BAE Hawk has the greatest lines
I heard of it and had two for my FS9 game!!!!
very cool ideas
A legendary light Attack Aircraft, capable of training Pilots and offer a light Strike capability.
Saw them fly many Times in the Alps, around Orange and in the area of Mont Ventoux while on vacation and numerous airshows.
Every European knows about this aircraft, well heared of..
Sepecat Jaguar - could land on a ploughed field. 👍😎
It may be interesting to look up Polish trainer / tactical jet IRYDA .
It never entered service ( exept NAVY ) but it was produced
and fully developed . Changes in politics in 1989 and an accident
officially ended its service in Polish Air Force . Some say that
it was a " must do " beafore Poland entered NATO .
Today we make no jet aircraft of domestic
construction .
I saw these during a Nato exercise in 1986 taking off from temporary airstrips on regular roads. I thought they were the coolest combat aircraft around.
Know about this aircraft from years
When I lived in England when my dad worked for Raytheon, these jets were on the RAF base and used at air shows.
I never heard of the Alpha Jet?!?
First, it never was a fighter Jet. It was an advanced trainer with a significant ground attack capability.
Second, I'm Portuguese and Alpha Jets from the Luftwaffe were deployed in Beja AFB, Portugal, for many years. (that Base also received earlier F-104Gs from the Luftwaffe for more than twenty years, and there were a few Starfighter accidents here as well)
In the early nineties the Luftwaffe phased out her Alpha Jets and handed them to the Portuguese Air Force, which was delighted to receive them as we had phased out our FIAT G-91 and T-38. We soon repainted the aircraft in a scheme identical to our A-7Ps, i.e. medium and dark green and tan upper sides, with light grey under sides, and operated them until, I believe, 2018. I once saw a formation of 24 passing overhead, said to be led by a girl. To Portuguese Air Force standards, that was something! (I mean the number of airworthy aircraft, not that it was a gal leading the flight.
Being myself a former civilian Air Traffic Controller I also had the joy and privilege of handling them several times. They were pretty fast, normally flying at around 300 knots, and as with any fast jet we had just enough time to coordinate them with the next Sector. There were two Squadrons, "Jaguars" and "Snails" and their Call sign was accordingly, ex. "Jaguar 21". The F-16 was much faster, but if at low level no one liked to push much above 300 kts.
The Air Force Aerobatic Team Asas de Portugal (Wings of Portugal) also used two, painted in a really tacky scheme by the way. They did their very best, but were only two - there was no money for more - and the team was very short lived as one day one of the aircraft scrapped a treetop while needlessly flying extremely low, ingesting foliage. The AJET made an emergency landing and every one tried to disguise the case as a bird strike - I even heard that a Crew chief produced blood and feathers and smeared the intakes with it - but the truth was soon found out, the Team was disbanded and I understand that everybody involved suffered disciplinary action, and there was no shortage of it! Anyway, the real Asas de Portugal to me will always be the team flying six T-37C between 1976 and 1992. They were formidable, absolutely superb and flew and flew on until one day a Tweet lost a wing 50 feet above the runway while making a roll and the pilot was killed. Cracks were found in the airframes and spars of almost the entire fleet, which was grounded for good, and that was the sad end. We had received those aircraft used in 1963.
If one day you come up in Lisbon, drive to Sintra AFB some 20km NW and visit the Air Museum, where you will be able to see a fully armed Alpha Jet in pristine condition and so much more. If you want to have an idea of what our Aerobatic Team did with their T-37s, search "Rolling in the sky - Asas de Portugal" right here in CZcams, a Japanese documentary from 1990. You'll be impressed.
The Alpha Jet was a beautiful, aggressive and nimble aircraft and I miss it a lot. Greetings from Portugal!
Lots of the German Air Force models are still flying with Top Aces in Canada!
the best in this class.......dogfight with them ist deadly.....even f16 pilots fear it
How lovely... The "Luftmoped".
I think the Red Bull fleet in Austria flies one, also what do you mean ?! Never heard of ?! My dad worked on composite parts for it… I heard of it all the time ! 😎🇩🇪👍🏼
The military transport aircraft Noratlas had been a French/German cooperation before the Alpha Jet. The Transall transport aircraft again and now the Airbus A 400 together with Spain, Italy and UK. The next generation jetfighter together with it`s drone aissitance will be a cooperation of France, Italy and Germany. "Let`s work together!"
You should make a video about the Soko J-22 Orao
No reference to the Bae Hawk which l think would have added more depth to the Alphajet story. It really did get hammered in straight export duels by the Hawk.
👍..merry Christmas 🎅🌲😇
Favourite plane of NAF pilots used to fight.Boko haram &ISWAP insurgents...I saw it flown for the first time back then in 1984 at the NAF airforce day airshow ..from your video I can now tell the difference between the German and french version.. tnks
We have of heard of Alpha jet, quite pretty jet.
The 2 engines were at the request of teh west german air force which had endured severe attrition of the F-104 starfighter. I'm pretty sure the starfighter's problem wasn't that it had only 1 engine, it was that the thing was little more than a missile with a cockpit and crashed if you looked at it askance.
Also, the wings were held on with 60 screws of five varying diameters, if IKEA made planes, the ntire plane would only use 4 different types of screw and there's be an allen key in the cockpit.
Always interested in what the base price along with cost per flight hour as well.
Portugal also had these fighters, both training and attack versions.
The German Luftwaffe only used it for 11 years. After the reunion German had to get rid of some planes because of CSCE treatys.
Literally the fist jet i knew about as a kid…..
I think Aplhajet is quite a famous type
Besides being one of the most common trainer jet in Europe and the fact that the famous Patrouille de France fly this airplane, we never heard of it...
Never heard of? I'm from Australia and I built a model kit of this jet and had it sitting on my chest of drawers in the 70's.
Cool.
Huh, what title is this?
You mean YOU never heard of, kid! 🤘😎
I had a model one as a kid
the pilot entering the cockpit on 8.17 is current king of Belgium Filip who trained on the Ajet at Sint Truiden. He even ad a gear up landing with aircraft AT09.
He transitioned to Mirage V.
There was a few of them operating in Portuguese Air-Force... given by Germany in a deal about a lease of a air-base (Beja)... I think was a NATO thing...
I wonder where thay are now... ?Canada... ;-)
Fighter jet you never heard of... Patrouille de France, anyone? 😇
I have heard of the Alphajet, it’s still used by the french airforce aerobatic team today, “la patrouille de France”
Hello Dark Skies, could you cover the SK60B please? Thanks.
Portugal was a big user with 50 German made Alphajet A in use until 1998, it wasn’t mentioned on the export countries.
maybe because they were German planes donated to Portugal in compensation when Germany left the Beja airbase before the lease was complete.
@@TiagoJoaoSilva they were not donated, they were a payment for the use of the airbase. Anyhow the video is about the Alphajet and their variants and operators, and all of them were mentioned, even the countries that had only a half dozen of them, and Portugal had 50 and used them for 19 years, replacing the G-91, T-33 and T-38 at once.
What's ironic is that it is actually a portuguese Alpha Jet in the thumbail!
@@blazept567 also noticed that
The South Korean T/A-50 could be seen as the spiritual successor to this jet.
In the German Luftwaffe (Air Force) it was nicknamed the „Luftmoped“(Air Moped).
It's a tremendous aircraft and today just as relevant as it ever was. The air frame is still suitable for upgrades and it's flight performance fits the bill for what NATO countries require in a low cost CAS aircraft.
Great video but not a single word for portuguese AJ (ex Luftwaffe) which replaced Fiat G.91 in 1993. There are examples with astonishing paint schemes.
Ele menciona apenas quem os comprou. Os nossos foram oferecidos pela Luftwaffe. Pelo menos julgo ter sido esse o critério: aquisições, não operadores.
@@antoniogomespereira6667 Oferecidos não, faziam parte do pacote de compensações pelo uso da BA11 pela Luftwaffe.
@@vascoribeiro69 À parte o preciosismo de linguagem, penso que terá compreendido o critério - era essa a questão que colocou: não foram comprados, foram entregues como pagamento de parte do contrato de utilização da base de Beja. ele apenas menciona compras.
Good subject , a couple of head scratchers tho: 8:02 why is France listed as an export customer?
And speaking display teams why no mention of the french national display team Patrouille de France operating the type since 1981, and possibly until 2035