Top 10 Strongest Vassals in EU4
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- In this video we will be checking out the most powerful subject nations and vassal states to obtain in europa universalis 4. These subjects are incredibly useful and can convert provinces quickly to your religion, colonize the world for you and efficiently core territory for you before you diplomatically annex them into your nation. Subscribe for more EU4 videos weekly!
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AlzaboHD IS BACK! In this video we will check out the best subject nations and vassals in EU4! Stay tuned later this week(end) for Imperator Rome content! Check out Siuking's youtube channel and his reddit post in the about section of this video. Thank you for watching and see you on the next video.
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(He insulted me once)
@@haze154 When did I insult you? You are awesome bro! Cheers
when's the military idea video coming out?
Thanks. I still respect him. He is great at eu4. Once I uploaded a straw poll on discord and he told me “they where super bad just like me”. But let’s forget the past. Still little mad thou. : )
At 03:09:11 o’clock at the 20/04/19
The best vassal is an integrated vassal!
Hell yeah
Long live blobbing
Agreed. Integrating vassals is the best way to go in my opinion since I'm an expansionist type of player who wants to expand my nation as much as possible.
@@girlgarde Vassals are the best way to expand. Idk what you are smoking. Vassal swarming is the single best strategy for expanding.
I just make a Big Large Gigantic Vassal and they Make a Independence War :crysunglasses*
easy:
step 1: play any country
step2: get pomerania, brandenburg and teutons as vassals
step 3: turn them into marches
step 4: give pomerania the lands it needs to form prussia
step 5: profit
Pomerania will not become Prussia as your vassal, only Teutons.
Hello, I'am from Poland. We did kind of such thing in real life. After that we lost independence for over 170 years, mostly becouse of Prussia. Don't make our mistake XD
@@adamkowalik9812 russia.
It was mostly russia ;)
@@justaybp6921 No, look at who got the most land after 3 rapeds of Poland - Prussia got Warsaw and most of the true Poland, Russia took away only all the lands where once lived Rusyns, Ukrainians, Cossacks Russians and Belarusians - This is only after Napoleon we took the remains of Poland, but with the loss of independence - It was Prussia that played a key role.
And yes, at first we didn’t want to divide Poland - Then the king was friendly to us in Poland, but when the Austrian emperor and Prussia decided to divide Poland we could not allow them to become too strong - And we had to show our "Friendly intentions" by helping to kill Poland, otherwise Austria could have attacked Russia with the Ottomans, and then Russia would be raped in all holes.
We are most guilty of what happened with Poland in 1945 - Then yes, we have shown ourselves to terribly force Poland and the Polish people to accept communism.
google the difference between the Russification of Poland and the Germanization of Poland - We even gave Poland a big autonomy called the "Kingdom of Poland", while Germany acted decisively and pursued a rather strong policy towards the former Poland. Now imagine what would happen if the Germans conducted such a Germanization in Warsaw.
@@baurzhanaldabergenov2263 both decisions dont require independence.
No matter how many years it has been, I'm STILL salty at Paradox for taking away Najd's +5% missionary strength.
+5%???? I've been playing since 2014 and never knew that existed! Whelp, time to roll back to patch 1.0
With the power of modding you can put it back in.
LuxxyLux1 yeah pretty easy to mod idea modifiers
@@LuxxyLux1 What's the point of modding? I mean I only play Ironman, don't see the appeal of "cheating" and the diverse challenges is fun, and I'm pretty sure you can't play Ironman with mods?
@@SebHaarfagre to make it more fun and to sitback and play an overpowered nation after a shitty week and bad day at work.
"Help convert for you"
They barely convert these days
Once you feed them ducats per month they can but it can get a tad expensive
@@AlzaboHD This ended my dream to unite the world under Confucianism...
They tend to be too broke even if given twice their monthly income. And forget about it if you get a pu over a big nation that had been shunk they likely will never recover economically
Glad to see another video of yours it’s been awhile, hard to find good Europa content for some reason
Keep up the fantastic work :)
A great video, thanks for taking the time to make it! I'm on a WC with France at the moment and I definitely would have overlooked Najd!
Aw finally! I love your videos dude. Keep up the good work!
I always realse Syria as the ottomans. One of the reasons is that I can conquer more provinces at once when I return the cores instead of taking them myself.
Love your vids happy your still making them
Thank you so much! Dont worry, life got busy but Ill never stop making videos as I love what I do, its icing on the cake that others enjoy watching them as well
my name is Ivan, and lately I've been feeling particularly terrible
Bro! We need that Mil tech guide!
Its coming! Along with imperator and Patreon poll videos. Thanks for the reminder!
AlzaboHD awesome! Look forward to it all.
@@AlzaboHD Make it next or in my upcoming custom nation multiplayer game I will be a high American OPM in North America with Siberian frontiers... and I will convert as much of the world as I can to Totemist. Do you really want that on your conscience? Do you really want me to tell my friends why I am doing such a heinous thing?
Just kidding, I am going to do it anyway. >:)
omaGAD you're back ! Only some months, but I missed your voice bud !
When you rush to form germany, ALWAYS release Holland as a march, they will completly obliterate the french and british for you if fed correctly
Thanks for the tip!
OMG OMG ALZOBOHD HAS UPLOADED A NEW VIDEO
Thank you for watching!!!!
I have two words: Orthodox Najd
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Great guide, "who is the best vassal to get?" is a question that I never ask myself and never new that I need it. As a french player who guess what play France, I always have the power needed to dominate everything, but good vassal for dealings with the minors and sometimes majors/coalition/league war is always good and your guide is writen well and guive me good idea, thanks a lot for that. (and sorry for the bad english)
Boat at 9:46 is like
"Dont mind me"
lol
9:24 PUd Portugal as Castille pretty early in the game and they went with defensive ideas followed by religious ideas, such a pleasuring experience
Step one: play Sweden.
Step two: vassalize TO/Pom/Bra
Step three: have vassal form Prussia
Step four: quit the game as there is no longer any fun in it as you created the union of anti-christ.
@Emperor Pepe Flavius Memus 1: give the land. 2: release. 3: re-vassalize when Prussified.
@Emperor Pepe Flavius Memus Prussia can be formed by a subject nation, unlike other formables
That mention of Sindh makes me feel so represented.
Aye a fellow sindhi. Cha hal ha bha?
I dont even play this game. I just like learning thing.
Byzantium's 5 Discipline, 15 (10?) Extra manpower and goods produced along with their godlike 3TTF and 3 Missionary Strength make for an excellent vassal to have imo
Conquer enemies using Byz's strong and big army and have it almost insta-convert it for free (assuming it takes religious ideas that is, though my Byz Vassals almost always take it)
Every game in which I form the Roman Empire has a vassalized Byzantium in it that I would use to conquer all of their mission permaclaims and get that sweet, sweet Anatolian province rename.
Opening the game with a noCB war to force-vassalize Byzantium is a pro move for pretty much anyone who can get some guys down there ahead of the Ottomans.
Beautiful to see this
Kazakh potassium is the best in da world!!!
I almost looked up the Borat anthem but atleast I remembered the key word lol
All other potassium is made by little girls... no, wait, that's not how it goes
Yay!!! Alzabo is not dead!!!
Pulling a byzantium! Thanks for watching
You're alive!!!
Back from the grave! More videos coming this weekend
Thanks Senpai!
You are welcome kohai, thank you for watching!
Top #1 Gorgeous CZcamsr voice ^^
I've found that Delhi is a nice Vassal to have in the early game in a timurid game once you've dealt with your starting vassals. It has a lot of cores to feed in a very rich part of India. The only downside is that it takes an age to integrate and doesn't convert provinces for you.
We need that Mil...ah, someone said that...he uploaded agai dag nab it! Welp...gonna enjoy a nice vassal feeding video anyway from my senpai. :)
That sounds fucked up haha
It will come soon tm, after some imperator and poll videos! Stay tuned and thanks for watching dude!
In my very first campaign with the ottomans I vassalised Najd just for fun without any knowledge about the game. And now they are number 1 here, proudest moment of my life xD
Do subject states colonize less? In my current England campaign I got the early PU over France and was hoping for double colonies but they still haven‘t even picked exploration or expansion at five idea groups into the game
Its possible to check France's idea group choices within the game files - if you go to steam, right click eu4 and navigate to search local files you can find them in commons > countries and then France to see when they select them. Maybe they select for their 6th idea? That is strange to hear!
@@AlzaboHD
Thank you. France should have picked exploration as theire third idea group but they have not done that. So I looked at the wiki and according to that subject nations will indeed not pick exploration, there is no such thing for expansion but that is not part of France's historical ideas so they will most likely not pick that too
Amazing video, dude ! I have been away from eu IV for awhile now and I just cannot wrap my head around the new (to myself) religious conversion ducket cost, have covered that in a video ?
Thank you! I have not yet, but basically conversion cost is tied to local autonomy and development. Lower dev and lower autonomy reduce missionary cost and conversion times. Hope that helps
I always liked to vassalise Knights. Every game i played with them, they had strong military, and in any war appeared in random enemy places across the world. That one time i warred with Spain? Knight conquered half his colonies, War with india? They appear from nowhere and start conquering from other end XD, always absolutely hilarious.
Once I gave all of Italy to the Knights and force converted them to Sunni, 10/10 would totally do it again
I recently had Nepal as a vassal, they have some very nice bonuses to infantry combat which really helps late game when you want to conquer India
Out of curiousity, how did Deccan not make the list (formable from the viceroyalty of the deccan event on the Mughal tree)? That permanent +10% Administrative efficiency and a 500+ dev vassal with permanent -100% liberty desire should atleast make the top 5 IMHO... Love the videos and enjoy the channel!
A secretly extremely good vassal (I would rank top 3) is Lubeck. They make insane money from trade and you can demand they divert trade to you giving you tons of money. You can scutage them and give them strait crossing provinces in the Denmark area making an island trap that can't be sieged on 2 sides. Florry was able to trap basically the entire HRE on Fyn on several occasions playing as Norway.
What happened to the the Exodus mid series you were doing? I was loving those mods!
Once I have more time I look forward to making more - I apologize as Ive been quite busy recently and havnt been modding. Thinking about making exodus mods for imperator, too!
Cool video as always! New mic? :)
Thank you Radio! Its the same mic but I moved into an apartment incredibly terrible for recording, crossing my fingers to move out soon so the quality increases. Cheers dude and good luck on your ongoing imperator campaign!
@@AlzaboHD Thanks! Moving sucks. Good luck with that.
I personaly loved Lan Xang in my Korea-Capaign, as a march. I released them in a War against Dai Viet and fed them all there core territory . Due to their location in the mountains and jungle they where perfect for taking down Ming :D
You know you could also do hoi4 or vic2 lists if you wanted to, I think that would be a great expansion with your videos.
Working on an imperator top 10 right now! Stay tuned for tomorrow and thanks for watching
09:45 is that patrick steering the flying duchman?
I am interested in the power of fed marches since my last otto run. There was a 1 province minor Lithuania i defeated it and made it a vassal and gave it the lands i got from russia and bohemian occupied poland. I remember in a war i had with france and its allies (which consisted of mainz germany all of north and mid italy of pope ) and that fed lithuania just yoloed a 120k vs 150k fights against france and mainz army. Since that battle i am interested in fed marches
Best eu4 content creator :)
Thank you so much, I really appreciate your support! More is on the way
@@AlzaboHD thank goodness! I'm 300 hours in and I still feel like I need my hand held. Thank YOU for the support honestly haha
Just wanted to add that khorasan is pretty great too. I always march them when i play in the middle east
I was expecting to see delhi here, they have a good number of cores
Also, anyone with a good mission tree can also be used, as they can get a lot of permaclaims (Example: if you force the PU on france as england, giving them normandy will give them claims on burgundy)
When is a video ranking the different tech groups coming out? Or is one not even coming?
One will definitely come out, this is a fantastic idea!
I MEAN, HOTCHMEISTERS? :D Genius!
I tought you have been Remanized. Fortunately you seem to have recovered.
Poor Reman. I hope hes doing well. Haha I have big plans for the channel and more videos are coming very, very soon - worry not! Thanks for watching.
@@AlzaboHD You're welcome.
@@balsakovacevic8423 Nobody knows.
@@balsakovacevic8423 I hope too.
Renan came back! Sort of lol
Glad to have you back, where have you been comrade?
Finishing my master degree but Im aiming to be more acting now. Thanks for watching!
AlzaboHD OOOH what’s the master’s degree in fancy pants.
International relations. Eu4 is a pretty nifty and relevant hobby haha
AlzaboHD *AlzaboHD meets person for the first time...* “So yeah I’m from north Bukhara province...” “In Uzbekistan?” “Omg how did you know that your international geography is amazing.” *only knows from playing a game as the timurids*
Venice is one of the best vassals imo.
They can't colonize, they can't convert things for you, and they don't have tons of cores. So why are they so good? Because they exist in an end node *that you do not want to be collecting in yourself* (assuming you want to keep trade power bonuses from your own merchants). That means you don't neuter their income, and they always end up with 40 stacks stacks mid game, and 80+ late. You mentioned holland, novgorod, and byzantium. They all are in good nodes, but in most games you'll want to steer their trade power to you, meaning they'll have no money for armies... unlike Venice.
Also Venice is in a great strategic position. If you give them austria's mountains you can build them a few strong forts which they will maintain for you to guard you from otto in the east or france in the west. The AI also often take defensive ideas which makes these forts all the better.Their soldiers aren't the strongest, but they can constantly rebuild them, and who needs manpower when they have the money for mercenaries? They also have a very strong republic government, and often develop their lands well from excess monarch power.
In practice I find them to be one of the most stable and reliable vassals.
Why wouldn't you want to steer Venice's trade power towards your own?
@@chrisporter8391 It's an end node so you can't steer money out of it to your own home node (usually genoa or english channel).
If you collect from it then you lose the 10% trade power bonus per merchant in your home node which lets others steal money out of your main trading area.
Chris Porter basically, if you have 100% trade power in a node that isn’t your home node, you can uses a merchant to collect a hypothetical 110% of the trade nodes value,
Thanks for the input, have not really thought about end node vassals too much.
Side note:
When playing as Ashikaga, I found Maguindanao to be a surprisingly useful vassal. Easy stepping stone to all of Southeast Asia, tons of cultural brotherland to feed, military+fleet bonuses, and I can't remember the administrative traditions but they were decent too. As a march they were actually quite useful as a vassal when conquering India, east Asia and even joined in quite swiftly on wars in the Americas.
They don't get colonists though, like a few others in the region can get.
Edit: And the reason I remembered them lol, they are downstream of you, so can use that to your advantage.
Also had Andhra as an Indian vassal which worked well (have not reached Sindh yet).
It is not a WC save. (Even though I suppose it hypothetically is feasible with Ashikaga vassal swarm which I am doing but I just want to have fun and will see where it ends up)
lol I annexed Venice as Austria, now I have an income of 76 Ducats and 20k in reserve
I like the strategy idea of vassalizing Portugal and a broken Ming.
Where is the military tech guide?
Will you try to do imperator videos?
Yes to both! Imperator video dropping tomorrow
glad you mentioned Ming, most guides forget ming
"the most relevant rectangle in Europe" lmao.
Portugal?
Syria is my go to vassal as Byzantium, they're my favorite.
What does Borat have to say about Kazakhstan as #8? VERY NICE!
Best in the world!
Can you make a top 10 strongest custom nations?
Nr. 1
World:
With a mod we took all provinces in the world and have all ideas groups and ideas at the same time. We also have 1000000 development in all provinces we also control all trade nodes.
Nr. 2 Same but one less province
And so on... but other way round.
Does the Novgorod trick still work in the newest patch/version of EU4?
If I play catholic nation, I convert vassal's provinces myself to get papal points and prestige at the age of Reformation. Prussia and Burgundy are best military marches in the game. Theodoro can be useful as their fort defence with ideas and policies often more than 100%. If you give Theodoro captured castles during the war, enemy almost always just ignore such bastions or losing a lot of time and manpower to return it back.
I love ur channel bro. 250 IQ
Georgia is a great march. +25% fort defense and cores on mountainous terrain, you can really wall off the caucus mountain range with them
I really like Gascony, if I play England and want to eat up france, because they have many cores, but also the ki makes claims :D
Same with Castille. Rush English land, release Gascony, conquer France
@@pseudoproak Yeah, might be so, but in my view Englands start is much easier to handle ;)
Yo when are we gonna get the essential EUIV military ideas
Very soon, thanks for watching!
Ahh I remember the time when you cloud just release Catalonia and feed them the east coast of Iberia... these were good times...
You still can release them and Valencia to get most of that coast
Arumba: WHERE IS CATALONIA
Catalonia is a good vassal though.
Catalonia got nerfed :(
Catalonia is a free democratic country, not a vassal, euronazi facistpainyard.
@Gaius Marius No, we're not, we are a nation fighting for our indenpendence aganist a facist country like spain and all the euronazis who support them.
@@5psx más tonto y no naces hijo 😂
If you're planning on fighting the ottomans at some point, consider turning byzantium into a vassal, or just guaranteeing and allying them early on. You can signifcantly weaken the ottomans early this way, because they are not able to get started on their mission tree.
Problem with teutonic order/Prussia is Brandenburg has an event to PU them even if they're a vassal
Brandenburg get an event to pu the teutons? When does this event fire?
How about khorasan? They have nice starting mil ideas and they start with lots of cores in Persia
Ok I was sure Novgorod to be very high, but where is Khorasan on the list? Plenty of cores, persian trade node to sustain huge army, nice military ideas it is definitely my favourite march ever. Other notable mentions: Punjab.
I have been playing a lot in India recently and I would say my top vassals there are definitely Andhra, Punjab, and Madurai. Andhra tends to lose its alliance with Vijayanagar and die pretty quickly and they have a ton of cores, Madurai has a good amount of cores and Tamil is a big culture so less unrest for feeding them that area. Neither of them have great ideas though, but Punjab has some class A ideas and a good amount of cores and culture land so I almost always to make them a vassal or march if I don't want to annex them in the long run.
What patch are you playing on? IIRC Punjab is a formable nation after the Dharma expansion - are they able to form if you feed them cores? If so they would make an excellent vassal
@@AlzaboHD The most recent patch, 1.28.3. I just checked they have starting cores on all but 2 of Sirhind's provinces, a couple on Multan, and one on Kashmir. They are also a formable as well if you convert to Sikh and are primary Panjabi
Did not mention Nepal? They make for an amazing March with their almost prussian level military ideas. :)
An important thing about Portugal: If you PU (and I assume vassalize is the same) them before they pick their first idea group... they won't pick exploration.
What are peoples opinion on using the teutonic order as a march? Been enjoying having them but I might want an upgrade
Oh shit he actually talked about it, so lit
They're a solid march especially when playing outside of Germany or PLC. If TO converts to Protestant or Reformed they'll switch tags to Prussia even if they are a subject, so yeah it's pretty worth. If you end up invading north Germany somehow then you can feed them but watch out for liberty desire getting too high.
@@thejayroh0011 I've been having difficulty getting then to change tag t Prussia, which cores do they need aside from Danzig, slopé and kroingsburg
@@angryman132 They need to be Protestant or Reformed and have admin tech 10
How long should I keep the vassals and how big shall I make them?
This one is highly situational but if you are the Papal States, it is never a bad idea to have Switzerland as a March for that 10% Manpower Modifier (Swiss Guard).
You make vassal sound as food.
What map mode do you use?
Top 10 armies pls
Timurids definitely missing :D they always collapse now and they have a ton of cores... i vassalize them when they have like 2 provinces and then conquer all of persia without even getting any agressive expansion
6:10 Syria is rare? Its one of 2-3 nations I almost always release from Ottomans if I'm in conflict with them.
Same here. In my Timurids playthrough, while Ottomans are busy with Europe, I always try to snatch one of Syria provinces (usually the one from Aq Qoyunlu) in order to prevent them from expanding into that area thus making it more easy to deal with them later.
@@danilobodroza7244 as Tim Tim tend to go West and knock the Ottomans out of Asia as Timurid did is dumb that expanding West into the Caucasus and snatching Anatolia or rearranging the hordes is not part of the mission tree since those were just as important for Timur as the conquest of India was
Have the Timurids as a vassal of the Ottomans in my current game
How is their liberty desire? Have they retained the horde government? This is a good idea!
@@AlzaboHD pretty sure they were still a horde. Wars with Ajam and others made them a one-province minor so I was able to vassalize them even though they were really far from my borders (in southern Iraq, with AQ and QQ between). Have since expanded them a bit in wars with Ajam and other nations (they at least have a useful navy and ~5k stack wondering around). Their liberty desire was pretty low, now hovering around 50% since I had to go bankrupt from wars with Crimea/Russia and Mamluks. Also had Kisn Hayfa and Adalan vassalized, inbetween AQ and QQ lol, the later completely surrounded by QQ but having the strongest liberty desire.
10:10 Let Me Rephrase That For You: "Preferably With Your Venetian Republic If Choice"
my fav vassal is Sweden. They are just awesome..
i played as the custom nation of Babylon and made Syria a march and they had an army of 100k when mine was only 300k and much much larger.. they made a great march..
I always think that Moldova is a great March to have tbh
They're definitely good, especially when you get them for free without any aggressive expansion as Hungary or Poland.
sweet
One time I apparently beat up Spain so badly that I was able to vassalize them.
They were still Castile but it is pretty interesting
I'm assuming vassals are more proactive and independent with DLC. I have the vanilla game (fuck Paradox's DLC model) and vassals are nice, but you have to give them everything. They don't expand themselves.
Inb4 the Ulm comment.
Ah who am I kidding, it was probably first comment
RIP Siuking
I only use vassals for their cores. I.e used Qara Qoyunlu to get 130 dev for 40 ae. Sirhind for 140 dev in india.
I did Najd see that coming
does ccr of a vassal affect diplo annexation cost?
Im fairly sure it does if I read siuking's novgorod reddit post correctly. Im 90% sure its a yes but dont take my answer as fact haha
@@AlzaboHD i'll have to try it out. If so, it would drastically change my subject feeding strat xD
What kind of mod 're using
>Kazakh an amazing vassal state
Just like modern Kazakhstan eh?
Kazakh is one of my favorite nations to vassalize.
What I do is take one province with a Kazakh core, release them as a vassal, and then use reconquest to claim back ALL of their cores. Since they have a bunch, it's an easy way to get land in central Asia without getting much AE.
I see kazakhstan in preview. I click.
No one is gonna talk about that boat ramming through Sri Lanka at 09:46? No? Ok
I do