Why EVERYONE Fails at the MOST OP Solo Queue Strategy!
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Watching this as a support so I know what my team is doing wrong and flame them. Thanks Skillcapped!
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you literally going to write 5 paragraphs of text explaining them why they made a bad macro decision? By the time they read your explanation they gonna get distracted and feed unintentionally.
@@SorakaOTP462 Why would I do that when I can just say "dogshit team top diff"
@@flameofmage1099 because if you do that it would make no difference. Anyone can write that line, be that smurf or a random noob.
@@SorakaOTP462 First time reading a joke?
Goated video, covered both recall timing and inefficient pathing which causes slowness in tempo. Definitely important to know for those whose teammates die at teamfights before they're able to pressure the enemy turrets.
if I had a penny for every time I was split pushing pulling 2,3 or eve 4 people to me to side the lane while my team was busy farming jungle camps. like all of them were farming camps. so many games lost dude.
I remember a game from these days I was a support in mid against 3 enemies. Our Trundle was getting near Tier 3 and I saw how the enemies where going back to their tower tier 1 mid. I knew they were going to recall to kill the Trundle then I went chasing them like crazy and spam the Fight ping to my 2 allies , they followed me and bait the enemies to force them to stay. The Trundle was able to take tower and one inhi for us and we didn't die either, the enemies were forcef to leave and we took mid tower too.... So to any supp main here, as you are not focus on farming you can be focus on the map reading situations like this nd shot-calling your team, same goes if that Trundle leaves the lane and suddenly there's only mid being pressured, spam everyone to leave that lane as you are in danger, 2 more objetives must be pressured at the same time or just make them leave. Sometimes they won't follow your pings so spam make sure you leave too so they feel less protected in the lane and leave too
This video helped me out so much! I would wait for the perfect opportunity to use my tp and sometimes it will never come! This video taught me a lot. Thank you
It feels so great, imagine stomping top with a good splitpusher and taking like 9 turrets all by yourself! You are everywhere and nobody wants to fight you head-on, most top laners can win a 1v2, and you carry trough demolishing the entire map without any care for your teammates. Nice vid!
Totally agree. Yet, you get all the heat and hate from your own teammates all game long, lol. And also teammates not recognizing your efforts with the 9 turrets kill and just look at their KDA. Typical. And notice at the end they even voted for ff, hahaha. All the comments from the teammates must’ve been “omg Garen! Wtf are you doing? Join the dragon fight!” It’s over, guys, let’s just ff.” “Report Garen plz”. Glad there’s a mute all.
@@NoobieSnake if youre in an elo where you get flamed for split pushing you're doing it wrong
@@saturn8641 it happens in every elo, sometimes warranted, most of times not
This does not teach you what happens in a lost game. Cant really split push when your team is constantly dead. The team I need to match tempo with dies before you can pressure the map or the team does not take objectives while you split pushing. I like how you said that people are always uncoordinated on the enemy team but they coordinated on that Soraka which won them the teamfight. Also I love the ez Garen game you had as an example where at the end one of the enemy teammates said report their top laner and jungler. Good teammates make good games.
If you understand how to draw pressure, you can absolutely help your team win fights by drawing people to you and turn the fight in their favor even if they're massively behind. This is one of the core concepts of how Thebauffs plays, and obviously something about his playstyle must work or he wouldn't consistently hit challenger every season. The key to this strategy is that you can't int yourself though, because then you're no threat to the enemy and they will simply ignore you. So in your case, consistently winning lane so you actually become a side lane threat would be the first step before you begin to worry about your team being bad or not. Also, you can't win every game. If you did your best and made the enemy top laner's life a hell, that's good enough.
@@Kamishi845 Well here's the thing when your team is doing bad then it snowballs for everyone. All it takes is the jungler to help top lane a few times while my jungler stays bot to try to keep dragon away from the jungle thats not there for them to win. From what Im hearing and reading it seems like I have to rely on my jungler to pressure something for me to do anything. I would have to sit under tower till I get help during a 1v2. Meaning they win lane easily. Its not about "not winning every game" its about "what are my teammates gonna do this game?" The game over if the enemy team has a jungler that is good or not.
Thats the problem. when i try to match with my team and draw pressure we talking about a losing matchup where my team so afraid to push so they just wandering in our jungle to get some xp and gold, lack of visions also not help them so its impossible to split. Even if you try it alone so they can see 4 ppl on the map who collide on you they not pushing or set up vision or anything. they just too afraid to push because they might died 5-7 times and the enemy has 1-2 item and level advantage. Also because they are not pushing the enemy dont have to catch any lanes so they can just camping in our jungle waiting for some extra kills, they can play together since no pressure on the map and you try to do it alone they can just easily rotate toward you. @@Kamishi845
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Hey! Could you make a video showing how to find the person who's carrying at the moment? I am a support main and often during the game I wonder who is the strongest at the moment and who to play around. I ask because I know that it does not always depend on items or gold. I have to choose between an evolving late game carry and a top laner that is at its peak. Thanks in advance! I really like your films!
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play around who is the best. the best mate could be loose his lane by beeing camped or playin against a good playin counter. so cs, gold or items arent the things u only have to look who's the best. u have to get mapawrness to see how they playin bad situation in a good way while you doin your lane.
C'mon Ezreal, you said "split pushing takes no skill at all" (10 BAD Champions that are OP in LOW ELO Video). Now, 8 days later, "it happens to be the hardest strategy to execute" (0:27). Good video though
But how is that wrong? It literally takes no skill to farm minions and hit towers. However, the difficulty is to know how to "read" waves and where to go constantly to create pressure and avoid fighting. That is really hard specially when your team is losing, because you're not always gonna have vision of the enemies team, so you have to understand about jungle tracking, pay attention to summoner spells cooldowns and everything
you should never take a video title seriously unless its from a channel that has proofen otherwise, like daily dose of internet.
@@rafaeldesouzar I agree with you, I'm just pointing out that their two statements contradict each other. Saying "Split pushing takes no skill at all" is different than saying "it takes no skill to farm minions and hit towers".
I'm not talking about the title, I just mentioned the other video so you can check when he said "split pushing takes no skill at all" @@mauer1 Don't get me wrong, I do think this video was good and informative. I watch all of their videos as soon as they come out
@@FTrauskithey constantly contradict themselves, put wrong graphics, or recommend builds just to forget them in the next video
The issue with the tempo matching is that in pisslow bronze and silver elo people just dont understand what pushing waves means. All they do is fight. Ultimately the team also just needs to activate their last braincells and push waves instead of fighting 5v3 in jgl for krugs
The only problem, you usually sacrifice yourself for the drake or baron, and your team not gonna take it. They take chickens instead. As 4. Or just wandering in the jungle, without any idea what to do.
Thats what I was thinking. I realize they analyze low elbo games to try and make points. But I don't think they understand low elo and why we're there. As someone with litteral thousands of games in low elo. What you said is probably what is gonna happen most of the time. Your gonna bait the team to come to you and kill you while your team wonders around the jungle doing who knows what.
I have done this many times with garen so many lost games that I won with an awesome backdoor
Dear challenger players, in the last scenario where nasus was supposed to split push, what would the decision be if the next wave was extremely far away and you're on another champ that isn't as tanky, doesn't have nasus ult split push power and doesn't build the splitpush hammer? Do you still stay there trying to bait a fight while waiting for the next wave?
Challenger players have no reason to be on this CZcams channel or have it on their feed to even look at
Why is split pushing bad above diamond?
On other video week ago you said that split pushing takes "no skill at all".
no skill at all, that's right, so that explain y most low elo skillful player don't win games. simply push vs skillful teamfight (but not guarantee winning with 4 stranger players
@@kululemon5804 ask Skill Capped why they said it. Because it's obviously wrong.
2:30 and these types of players like the Fiora here 100% think "I got tower and died, worth". That's the issue with not showing people the team gold difference, it's can be very hard to judge just how successful or how bad a play was, because the outcome isn't immediately obvious to a lot of players especially in low elo.
Also just how bad would you say split pushing is on an ADC? Half of my games I do like 9k tower dmg alone because I split sometimes. It's not like I want to, it's just that I feel like it's what's required in my low elo games and it seems to work out just fine for now. No, I don't know why 3 of my teammates decided they need to join up with our Yorick for a 4 man "splitpush". I just roll with it
In last exemple, that's assuming the rest of the team will secure the dragon... Can't count the number of games where they withdrew for some reason and focused wolves and grump while getting to inhib. I mean, the strat is correct but won't help getting out oh hell.
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I agree. Also, matching tempo doesn’t work when your team thinks they are behind and wont push anything.
That's what pinging is for my friend.
Also conveying your intentions through game chat is not a bad plan.
Telling them "I'm going to pressure their top lane so you can take dragon" or something so they know what you are up to and what they should be doing while you're there.
@@Shuyin128MK4 ever heard of low elo teammates? you can ping twice or many times, you can write in chat, you can do everything in your power... and they will ignore you and after you die trying to split push (maybe even taking a few turrets) you get spam pinged for "trolling" and ideally even "not helping in team fights"
I overall agree with your point about TP, but I think you explained why TP is so good is wrong. TP is good because it's the only summoner spell that can improve your tempo, because if top laners actually picked TP to TP to fights in low elo, you'd see them do it way more often than they actually do it. A lot of the time I genuinely think people just pick TP so they can TP back to lane for whatever reason, though you sometimes also have the weird TP to a large minion wave just to die before an important objective or due to failure to match your team's tempo. Which is to say, I think teleporting to a large minion wave about to crash can be a very good play to make if you a) have baron buff or b) want to crash the wave before a major objective contest or do it when the enemy team is not around so if you choose to stay to threaten towers and inhibs, one or more on the enemy team has to respond to your play and you can either get a tower or inhib for free or force them to make a tough decision, but let's be honest most low elo top laners don't understand this concept well, let alone how to apply it.
If you're a low elo player using teleport over other summoner spells, I think you got to ask why you are using it and how many times you use it on average in each game, especially once laning phase is over. Because if the answer is just a couple of times, then running a different summoner spell is probably more beneficial even if you play a champion like Kayle or Nasus who is more likely to be dove early by the enemy team. Ghost/flash are very viable defensive combinations in the top lane especially since so many top laners also run ghost, so you can match their ghost.
This channel is really helpful
I tell you that if you are Mid and you are ahead being the reason teamfights are won and the source of magic damage... DO NOT leave your team yo splitpush because they are going to start a fight and die. I lost so many games doing this. Instead ask your adc or top (if the jungler is tanky) to push that wave and be near your teammates
I backseat my duo because she's so aggro and ends up handing over kills or pushing badly, I've been teaching her this though - she split pushes with me sometimes now when there's a fight mid or solo is pushing top too. We tend to play it safe by waiting until a fight breaks out so we tend to be a bit late sometimes, but if I have good vision control I can advise us (I need to let her play duo alone soon, I'm a crutch lol)
Great video, but when do you know when to actually group for objectives vs. split push?
If you cant match tempo. If dragon is spawning and you cant get the split push pressure going when it spawns its just better to be there to help prevent or get the objective. I like to pressure mid when i cant reach opposite side lane in time. This way you are close and can hover but also have the chance to split mid if enemy team is slow to the objective. Just know that you will lose objectives and get flamed while splitting. You can get an inhib turret but lost dragon #2 and people will ping you.
Aside what the other person said, you can also do this if you can't 1v1 the enemy top laner so you draw them to the side lane on the opposite side of the map before the fight starts and teleport back to the fight or teleport to the wave to push it out, forcing the enemy to match your TP then you run to the fight while they're still stuck dealing with the wave. This is usually how playing in the mid lane works when it comes to skirmishes as well, so I'd suggest play mid lane if you want to learn how this particular concept works since it also applies to the side lane.
Meanwhile my team just runs it down and team fights constantly and dies, completely ignoring pings. Every team is bad teammates.
"Splitting don't fight" then they dive into the next enemy champion they find and die. Yep. That's about 98% of the time.
i always have the most fun when i get spam pinged and completely trashtalked with very bannable words because i was trying to split push instead of joining a obviously lost teamfight... also that seemed like the only way to get at least a bit further from loss as they always ran into those fights letting enemy take free turrets afterwards and also fought for DRAGON-1 when we had huge wave pushing our last mid turret XD happened to me like tomorrow or the day before
that was a funny akali in BLIND PICK
i mean yea i cant say much as im as iron as that akali but it still makes me laugh... most of my "stop feeding" deaths are from actually joining a few of their fights most of the times (few by my own mistakes too ngl)
Really good video, explained my playstyle in details and I also learned something new. For some points I disagree tho
time for my trundle main to attack only structure again!!!
8:20 this ia the situation where Warwick should just safely run, he could survive easily xD it's not problem with some "hard decision" for enemies, he just went into death.
and what do you do against splitpusher, specially if it's an immortal yorick or something?
ban or ff.if you didn't win by 15 minutes against yorick then it's over
how can i put the content of skillcapped coaching from the web page in spanish??
well, that exemple is bad since ww lv13 should be able to 1v2 zed and fio lvl 10 and 11
Great. Now, how do we do that as Janna?
When you can splitpush as a Jungler playing champions like Rengar or Master Yi?
hpw do you deal with a good split pusher, if top is stomped?
i needed this
I am not the one who is spliting I am just howering them with Zilean
Since starting skillcapped for the 2nd time. I have dropped from S1 to B1. 2nd time trying site, and 2nd time dropping 4+ ranks when I do.
Me as adc trying to depush a sidelane cause none of the fucking sololanes want to bother doing it and then team gets either engaged on or decide to engage knowing fully they are 4v5 only to proceed to flame me after.
ikr, and when you stay with them, they all move in the area with no fight happening. But as soon you leave your own soraka goes flash-in first melee engage
I always just saw splitpushing as a game of "Ding dong ditch", just annoy them to the point where they lose their mind and make dumb plays I can punish.
I got everything right I have officially mastered splitpushing
what if the other toplaners stays all the time in the lane to not let you split push?
then you go bot, and if he always stays then you can help your team 5V4, but its impossible for a player to always be in front of you in lategame
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well but how do i split as a jungler? Shouldnt i be at objectives?
Split Pushing is mainly for top laners, not junglers.
Mid laners *can* split depending on their champion, like that Kassadin and Yorick example, but generally it's the top laner that does it because the Jungeler is needed for the monster objectives.
You can split push as a jungler if your team is pressuring through lanes, but not if there is a monster objective unless your other teammates have a window to take it without you.
your job as a jungler is to hover around the objectives. When you see 2-3 enemy on your baron laner split pushing, force the objective teamfight. It's gonna be 3v4 or 2v4.
This game is crazy, you had to play "bad" to adapt to the fact the majority is si bad at the game to get some leads, instead of all playing the good way u're all suppose to take
Pick mundo?
Lol. Fuck split pushing. I started playing Janna smite top and my win% went up 10%
Ur team doenst even have to push. The enemy team just need to face urs. And u take the chance and go sidelane repeat
I always wonder how people get to emerald and they dont know about pressure.
85% of the time I match tempo and split my team will usually get wiped 4v4/ 4v5 while I take 2 towers, spam ping me and rage ff :)
git gud
Can you make a kayle guide in the future?
Cover no early game by runes lethal tempo bone plating so you can't get one shot and win extended trades against whom you'd normally lose, as runes cover your weakness and identity.
Poke snd afk fsrm 10 minutes.
Gz. You're ranged now. Abuse your laner or whoever comes and 1v2 with R.
You've scaled through aoe clearing waves. Split and/or tp ro reamfights. You have mixed damage and a invulnerability R. How can lose?
@@DamianSzajnowski You'd be suprised how often i lose with 5-10 kills lead
@@Den1suK I do the same on my champ pool :p
@@Den1suK this channel is to climb in soloQ. I cant recommend this champ, because its completly useless until lvl6.
Please reply to this. Do you main ezreal. Please main ezreal. My whole world will be turned upside down if you don’t
Would you want to listen to your own voice every time you play a game? I wouldn't sounds weird. No different for him I reckon...
Can't wait to split push on Ashe & Jinx boys.
Thats not what adc should do
@adamant4881 I'm in diamond and absolutely take every advantage of playing in a solo lane if my mid/top won't. There is not an exception to this beside supports that have no clear.
when 3 bronze players come rushing to you instead of taking the free baron then get caught on the enemy team about to collapse on you, that's my favorite uwu
how to split push featuring trick2g
Teammates die, flame then throw the whole game before you can finish splitting :)
warwick just run it down the enemies couldnt kill him 1v2
If I was that WW, if Zed passed me like he did to that WW I would have straight up dipped. I wouldn't have ran at the Zed knowing he had Fiora as his backup, those 2 champions together are like a toxic relationship nobody should want to be a part of.
Such an amazing video
waste tp for 1 wave and fake pressure and let your team die and lose the game lol
Locking Sion/Yorick and slamming your face into a tower and never playing the actual game isn't an "OP macro strategy" It's an argument for eugenics.
Mad?
I hope Baus will learn something from this video
He does everything mentioned in this video btw. How do you think he got challenger? Skill capped even has a guide on how to play like him.
Im a sup main lol
Splitpush only works if your team can stay alive, it's not always possible.
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first! hahah
This is just common sense?