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Komentáře • 687

  • @skillcapped
    @skillcapped  Před rokem +28

    Uncover the SECRETS to CARRYING BAD TEAMMATES at: www.skill-capped.com/lol 💪💪💪💪

    • @ultimocontrole9980
      @ultimocontrole9980 Před rokem +2

      Hector Challenge: playing on a controler, like a dualshock

    • @parasraymondfrederick7976
      @parasraymondfrederick7976 Před rokem

      Bruh just main yas if u don't care for shot calls

    • @skinnie2838
      @skinnie2838 Před 8 měsíci

      Heavyautumnwolf is in master, not gold

    • @Minizu4
      @Minizu4 Před 8 měsíci

      I'm in iron yet my team and enemy play better than this fucking heimer...

  • @FDT222
    @FDT222 Před rokem +2477

    Shoutout to the heimerdinger who had an entire guide basically called him a flaming douchebag

    • @TheKittyClink
      @TheKittyClink Před rokem +162

      guy will never leave gold that much i know lol

    • @chingchenhanji
      @chingchenhanji Před rokem +52

      @@TheKittyClink he's actually D3 rn

    • @davidzhang3762
      @davidzhang3762 Před rokem +22

      @@chingchenhanjiit’s only preseason tho so it’s not gonna matter

    • @skillcapped
      @skillcapped  Před rokem +157

      😂

    • @Mainwadkin
      @Mainwadkin Před rokem +34

      @@chingchenhanji Yes but not with his heimer supp. Around the time he played that game, he started otping ww top and is realy grinding solo queue in preseason rn.
      So it looks like he found his playstyle + OTPing is the best strat to learn and climb no`?

  • @BaronRodney
    @BaronRodney Před rokem +1585

    One time I was flamed for not being at teamfight because I was defending nexus from split pusing fiora. Funny enough it wasn't a teamfight for an objective, it was just 4 teammates mindlessly going top for no reason and getting stomped by fed enemy team

    • @beatles42ohgg94
      @beatles42ohgg94 Před rokem +115

      cant really blame them either,
      thats top tier pro NA move

    • @vanjamenadzer
      @vanjamenadzer Před rokem +73

      Lmao had this exact same thing happen two days ago. I was playing panth top and I managed to split push their top to tier 2 tower and started recalling. Meanwhile, my team was behind, all of them but they decided to pull the good ol' 4v4 all in on mid, 20 sec before baron was up and 5 sec before fiora was up. Fiora had TP and our bot inhib was gone already but their minions were in our base, so I knew that Fiora will most likely ditch the top as I am not there anymore and simply TP to our base.
      My team died, they did kill two though and then everyone started flamming me as fuck, then I pinged Fiora's TP and sure enough, two sec later, she TP's in our base and I was the only one to stop 3v1 siege and I actually did stop them from ending. I tried to explain to my team that if I died with them, we would lose as we would all be dead for another 20-30 sec and Fiora would solo end it ez. They still kept flamming me xD Fucking low elo is hell man.

    • @homyachock
      @homyachock Před rokem +6

      Wow, at least they were going top. I had many games where my 4 teammates (in ranked) didn't leave mid for 20 minutes. They were playing ARAM. I dont know why they decided that if they can't push mid 20 times before, 21 would be successful

    • @TheRalphbitch
      @TheRalphbitch Před rokem +3

      Sounds ligit, a hunch of cavemen all they want to do is fight screw towers rush bad dragons and back for baron instead of end game

    • @nikke01
      @nikke01 Před rokem

      Funnily enough, bad dragon is the name of a dildo

  • @mihaitha
    @mihaitha Před rokem +176

    The most frustrating part of solo queue is the fact that your team mates expect you to follow their calls (and flame you if you don't) while always blatantly ignoring any calls anyone other than themselves make.

    • @Bruno-dv3ym
      @Bruno-dv3ym Před rokem +2

      true, even I am to blame sometimes, especially as JG.

    • @shinobuoshino5066
      @shinobuoshino5066 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@Bruno-dv3ym if you're JG, you're the one supposed to make calls, if noone listens, then account for that too.

  • @heidtb6746
    @heidtb6746 Před rokem +406

    The most annoying thing about low elo flamers is that once they get upset once, EVERYTHING you do is wrong for some reason. Even if it's not your fault...
    Bot died in a gank while you were top farming Gromp? Well, guess all your calls are bad and you don't deserve

    • @NoTo_Shido
      @NoTo_Shido Před rokem +57

      Don't get fooled, it begins even before they get upset, this is who they are all the time.

    • @Babjengi
      @Babjengi Před rokem +14

      The default for anything is to blame jungle

    • @horizon1099
      @horizon1099 Před rokem +13

      not even just that, remember these are the same players who went 0/4 in lane and now are spam pinging you to gank their draven while they have half an item at 20 with 30 cs

    • @nu_kercat1
      @nu_kercat1 Před rokem +1

      had a game like that yesterday, played ekko jg and my draven went 1/4 in less than 10 minutes, my supp friend was very annoyed at it and so he kinda ditched him and started roaming, the draven was obviously mad at him and at me for not ganking once? (i started blue and there was a nasus in enemy team, so that was a bit more important)
      anyways, once i make my way to bot to gank, we got one kill with naut being low and my draven started spam pinging, like bro who tf are you to tell me what to do? there is an objective up nearby

    • @horizon1099
      @horizon1099 Před rokem +5

      @@nu_kercat1 yeah as a jg player it literally happens every game where people will spam ping you for anything (they messed up their wave and now it’s your fault, they died in a 1v1 at level 2 and it’s your fault, you didn’t want to coinflip baron so half your team dies etc) and worst of all now they’re coming into your jg to start farming your camps and buffs because they have 4cs/min and it’s your fault for not ganking their 6/0 laner who one shots both of you

  • @dameionarutogaming9728
    @dameionarutogaming9728 Před rokem +275

    The tip on "understanding why you're making your choices" that lifelong advice, not just for the game. People don't respect "understanding" things, so if anything happens, it happened "out of nowhere" relinquishing any accountability

  • @jorgemartinezsc1956
    @jorgemartinezsc1956 Před rokem +603

    I love the ending of this guide, because as they are winning and super ahead the support is calling to surrender because in his mind the best player in the team is bad. I bet after the game he says the sivir was carried, dude literally throws an ff vote with 2 inhibs down with a CHALLENGER player in his team.

    • @raymond7876
      @raymond7876 Před rokem +51

      Got flamed by an silver IV support once his ego was bigger than his rank I could say

    • @PassivesAbseits
      @PassivesAbseits Před rokem +12

      @@xlodvig If that Heimer really watched SkillCapped, he would not have flamed the Sivir in the first place.

    • @flowbie-1336
      @flowbie-1336 Před rokem +49

      @@PassivesAbseits nah fam, just bc someone watches the content doesnt make them a genius. Remember, the same way a majority of players r low elo, a majority who watch this content dont apply the knowledge

    • @BusJACKTV
      @BusJACKTV Před rokem +25

      @@flowbie-1336 I don’t think the point is that people who watch these videos are inherently good, it’s that they are trying to improve, and people who are trying to improve don’t freak out and flame their teammates

    • @jacksonmagas9698
      @jacksonmagas9698 Před rokem +5

      I actually just had someone drop an ff vote because we lost barely 1 fight up 25 kills to 5. No one else voted to ff and we ended the game 5 minutes later.

  • @dameionarutogaming9728
    @dameionarutogaming9728 Před rokem +53

    Imagine being an innocent bystander, and Hector stomps your team in ranked for a skill capped guide

    • @dolgrulit
      @dolgrulit Před 8 měsíci +2

      Would be fun tbh. It's fun to play against strong opponents, and also makes good learnings.

  • @TheGraja007
    @TheGraja007 Před rokem +62

    One thing i dont like about this video is that i didnt see Sivir ping once for his team to back off. If you see a potential danger they dont and are not willing to commit to a play they want atleast what you can do is ping for them to go back.
    Now if they listen, cool, if not, it doesnt change the outcome of you making a different play. Its like 2 seconds to spam ping quickly. Pings can get ignored but they also helped in so many situations.

    • @laithtabet970
      @laithtabet970 Před rokem +13

      Im willing to bet Hector was just really annoyed at heim and thats why he didnt. tilt happens in every elo

    • @venomouspassion5744
      @venomouspassion5744 Před 11 měsíci +5

      ye true, I'm no pro, just a plat 2 but while playing with silver or bronze teams, i mute everyone, yet still ping to the best of my ability (without annoying spams) to my surprise, sometimes they listen.

    • @ohlookitisacat7404
      @ohlookitisacat7404 Před 9 měsíci

      It's better to just ignore them. Once someone is tilted and spam ping, if you try to reason back at them, they will turn you into their enemy and will do everything in their power to hinder you.

  • @joshpointoh
    @joshpointoh Před rokem +40

    Whenever I back, and the team is pinging me to stay, if I decide to back anyway, I ping them off.
    It doesn't usually matter, but, if I ping them back up a couple times while I'm channeling and a couple times after I got back to fountain, I gave them every chance to notice I'm not going to be there and then notice that I'm actually not there.
    Then when they say "why did you back?!?!?!"

  • @rubylancaster2163
    @rubylancaster2163 Před rokem +151

    How to play a team game: ignore your teammates

    • @ahobbyist9520
      @ahobbyist9520 Před rokem +10

      Honestly yeah

    • @Tacid_Krios
      @Tacid_Krios Před rokem

      Welcome to league of legends, everyone is trash except for you

    • @rubylancaster2163
      @rubylancaster2163 Před rokem +1

      @@Tacid_Krios nah, im trash too

    • @mushudamaschin2608
      @mushudamaschin2608 Před rokem +3

      That's not at all what the message of the video is

    • @rubylancaster2163
      @rubylancaster2163 Před rokem +16

      @@mushudamaschin2608 the message of the video is clear: your teammates are trash so you ignore them and focus on yourself so you can carry.

  • @LemurG
    @LemurG Před rokem +74

    I legitimately hit gold for the first time just a few weeks ago following your advice! I get a ton of teammates flaming and pinging but that's par for the course. I'm so happy to be doing better in ranked, even if I just watch the free videos from CZcams

    • @xWabbli
      @xWabbli Před rokem +2

      Same, I‘ve gotten much better now from the tips

    • @piff8061
      @piff8061 Před rokem +3

      👏 🎉 Congratulations that's awesome I'm proud of you for getting better

    • @MeitanteiKevin
      @MeitanteiKevin Před rokem +2

      Congratz Mate! I sadly didn't hit gold in the last 2 seasons, maybe I will make it this season again :D

    • @SevenTheMisgiven
      @SevenTheMisgiven Před 6 měsíci

      gl with these teammates in plat+ while the opposing team has d3+ players.

  • @gpavl1177
    @gpavl1177 Před rokem +189

    These types of players prefer to lose LP just so they can flame you and feel good about their petty little selves rather than actually win and improve. It's quite phenomenal

    • @samogx86
      @samogx86 Před rokem +19

      Totally true, sometimes I didn't follow a support, he ended up dead and since I was fed I was carrying the game, but he wanted to surrender just to make me lose, or abandoned the fight to get me killed. Some people doesn't care about winning, they want to be the one that holds the truth.

    • @sonaleaguetv7747
      @sonaleaguetv7747 Před rokem +1

      I have no problem flaming my adc and sometimes that cause them to afk or feed...but it far more worth it when i leave that worthless adc...group with my team and win a 4v5 and ping the adc and mockingly give praise to the afk adc...all you adc gj...usually as they are dead again...adc will watch this video and think they are a challenger god try to split push and die...

    • @mechanicalsilence1
      @mechanicalsilence1 Před rokem +2

      @@sonaleaguetv7747 lmao, most of the time my when i play adc my support leaves lane so that he can "help" other lanes but instead he feeds them making the game unwinable.

    • @Bruno-dv3ym
      @Bruno-dv3ym Před rokem +3

      they flame you to have someone to blame that loss on and feel no need to change gameplay.

    • @dakk3
      @dakk3 Před rokem +4

      @@samogx86 Ikr, it's so surreal, this happens in every elo btw, even in master gm. People care soo much about being right or proving a point this way, it's so disgusting. They're often both losing you lp and trying to make you look wrong and dumb. Like how is this an accomplishment for some is surreal and disappointing.
      Many times you can't even do anything about it when 2 of ur teammates are doing this in ur game. This game became a fight of egos more than a fight for nexuses.

  • @fernandocarmo532
    @fernandocarmo532 Před rokem +18

    Some times I feel I am stupid for doing some stuff that my whole team disagrees. I've been a challenger from season 3 through season 5, quit the game for quite a lot of time and now I am mechanically stuck on diamond/low master.
    Most of the time I just ignore them, but it happens so often that even when I am 3 levels ahead of my lane opponent and I am being pinged, I really feel like something is off. Watching these guides from people that do this for living and confirming that, even tho I have bad games, most of my decisions are correct, just make me realize that elo hell will never end until im high challenger again.

    • @BACON-nf2rr
      @BACON-nf2rr Před rokem

      I hope by bad games u don't mean 0-10...

  • @Adventure-of-your-Life
    @Adventure-of-your-Life Před rokem +32

    It feels like sometimes the goal of adc is just to farm the whole game until you you're fed enough to carry one team fight that ends the game

    • @SteCollects
      @SteCollects Před rokem +8

      That is ADC at its core. You either get fed in lane or its a 30 minute farm

    • @blackwater7183
      @blackwater7183 Před rokem +2

      That is the goal. That's why ADC items are so expensive.

    • @atsukana1704
      @atsukana1704 Před 10 měsíci

      Yup pretty much. I had a kindred game where I had 5 deaths several minutes in because the fizz was hunting me so hard I couldn’t even get 6. Eventually I ended the game full build with 9 stacks just because I focused on taking kills I knew I could get and camps where I could.
      The game wouldn’t have been possible without the garen and yasuo who got fed in lane to offset the awful bot lane we had , I just made sure to try and be consistent enough to offset the problems present.

  • @deejayf69
    @deejayf69 Před rokem +20

    Great Guide, however, I think some low elo players are so quick to follow on bad calls because you're often told that a bad play executed together is still better than the "right play". Another reason might be because they aren't using their critical thinking skills.

    • @TheGRAclan
      @TheGRAclan Před rokem +8

      Well thats the thing often playing together with the team doing the wrong play is more likely to work out because its a team game and even if you're doing something solo it still requires the rest of your team to play correctly as well.
      If you're 30 minutes in and you're split pushing as an adc because you think it's a good idea to get gold and you know your team comp can turtle while you get gold it's still not the correct play if you also know your team doesn't want to do that and will likely just fight. You're better off being with them to win the fight rather than 4 of your team dying and you being left to 1v4 at baron

    • @biofreak03
      @biofreak03 Před rokem +5

      Skill Capped themselves said that the wrong play together is better than the right play solo in one of their videos. They do have far more videos advocating split pushing though.

    • @deejayf69
      @deejayf69 Před rokem +3

      @@biofreak03 I'm not really saying they're contradicting themselves. Just offering a different perspective on that specific topic.

    • @TheGRAclan
      @TheGRAclan Před rokem +4

      @@biofreak03 Well skillcapped and some of the other coaching sites like to make themselves sound very certain in videos as it sounds more authoritative, it's something politicians do alot by just sounding confident about something people believe you and think you're a reliable source without much personal research into the subject. This has the problem with that they also need to constantly make videos for revenue and will end up contradicting themselves a lot.

    • @prestowillen
      @prestowillen Před rokem +1

      I think those videos usually focus on jungle role in the mid to late game.

  • @Uthael_Kileanea
    @Uthael_Kileanea Před rokem +84

    Tip for low elo recalls: You can hold Alt and click on almost any button/number/picture to post it in chat. Ping your gold amount, mana, the item you want to buy, ults cooldowns, ward charges, and whatever other reason you want. Then, ping the recall button. You have plenty of time during the recall animation.
    Giving out reasons helps them understand why and think along your brain.
    In fact, feel free to point these things out even when not recalling, during ping exchanges.

    • @devonmantle6127
      @devonmantle6127 Před rokem +6

      Yeah I agree. I myself need to ping more to communicate however if ur teammate still pings or flames u after u do this then I would rather focus on thinking about my itemisation and what to do after leaving base rather than pinging.

    • @callmeriggy
      @callmeriggy Před rokem +5

      And they'll still complain about the recall.

    • @vhfulgencio
      @vhfulgencio Před rokem +19

      Yeah, that's my problem with hector in this video. He never pings, if he did that, maybe his team would do better..

    • @edo27
      @edo27 Před rokem

      thanks for. the tip

    • @boomynote
      @boomynote Před rokem

      Lowkey I never knew this was how that was done lol thank you

  • @Plaxer02
    @Plaxer02 Před rokem +14

    Its actually very similar in Dota when you convert this onto the Game. Especially from the Gameplay mentality this is really fascinating. What i teach new players usually is to play every role to some degree, you don't need to play the Role on the Level equally to your rank but you need to understand other roles and see Gameplay out of their perspective. You get automatically a much more clean and rational view on the Game. I am mainly playing Support in Dota, we have 2 Support Roles generally speaking, our Pos 4 what in League is the jungle is in Dota more of a second Support who lanes with the Offlane and most of the time enables plays for the team. Making calls for your team is good, but you need to have a good understanding of it though. I am mainly playing Position 5 and Support the Carry, of course i have my opinion on things and i sometimes get frustrated when we don't punish mistakes, but in the end that is irrelevant, if i see my Carry does weird things then i just clinge myself onto my other heroes and play the 4-1 System (which is in Dota in higher ranked pubs very common). You group up as 4 and let the ADC or Carry farm. Alternatively you can also play the 3-2 depending on the picks. Of course league is different in regard, since i am playing league on a relatively low level (circling around Gold 1 - Platinum 4) since i don't know every in and out of the Game and do also a lot of bad mistakes its difficult for me, since i am bad at calculating plays and Damage outputs. Another tip i would give to players, be concious about your weaknesses and spot players in your Game that seem to be more comfortable and better in things you aren't so good at. Play around your strengths and use them!

    • @Rncko
      @Rncko Před rokem

      When it comes to Dota I only know 1 biggest diff compared to league (not Dota player btw).
      "Die and feed a death in Dota for early game vision by support is acceptable."
      --> apparently the players say trading that 1 death for deep vision to know enemy's rotation is WORTH... guess that's what happens when the game don't have fixed roles for every lane.

    • @Plaxer02
      @Plaxer02 Před rokem +1

      @@Rncko well this depends on the Situation and what is going on in the Game. You can say its worth in the early Game if they have Cores that are jungling a lot and with deep vision you can kill them over and over. But in higher Ranked Matches the enemies are usually aware of it and will deny all of your vision you are trying to place. Besides that dying as a Support what in League would be considered feeding is when your Core is farming flash farming Jungle and Lane (Yes in Dota it works like that) to tank incomming Ganks as a Support so your Core is not dying and has enough time to run away. That is a pretty common tactic in higher ranked matches, but not many people understand how it works... but that is not a free "i can feed card", this is only considered good if the circumstances are enforcing that playstyle

    • @Rncko
      @Rncko Před rokem

      @@Plaxer02 I heard from last year TI caster. Yes, game start and one team alrd lead by 1 kill & nobody bat an eye for it & even heard some caster said its a mistake for the team to hunt that 1 isolated enemy with 4 members and wasted time.

    • @Plaxer02
      @Plaxer02 Před rokem +1

      @@Rncko yep thats true, and the casters in Dota themselves are usually pretty high rank, so they know what they are talking about

  • @jermstergaming8780
    @jermstergaming8780 Před rokem +7

    My Macro isn't great but this perfectly describes my life as an adc main and brings light to why I stopped climbing when I started listening to all the call they talked about. It was a perfect depiction of 90% of my games!

  • @domoxd3020
    @domoxd3020 Před rokem +4

    Hey skill capped, I just want to say thank you,
    The advice that you gave in this video was very helpful to me in many areas in my life,
    These principles are very transferable to learning other things:
    - self focus:
    focusing on what YOU want to do, YOUR gameplan, and sticking to it. Don’t allow yourself to be pulled into doing what others want you to do simply because you want their approval. Don’t try and please others, compare yourself to others, or prove yourself to others (doing all of this tends to lead to a painful learning process), instead be very self-focused (this means focusing on what you’re doing, not what someone else is doing)
    - focusing on growth vs. focusing on results (results oriented thinking):
    when you only measure your progress based on your results, it can make you think that you’re “winning” (because you got good results) when you're actually “losing” in the long term, because you’re not learning anything
    - know what you want to do & why:
    Understanding WHY you want to make your decision will help you to stay focused if/when others are ridiculing you for your choice. Thinking through your decision before you do it, is much better than simply going with the flow of what others want to do, and not knowing why you are doing it. You need to actually think about your decisions before you make them
    Accidentally stumbling into the right decision sometimes won’t help you grow/progress
    When I was younger I used to play basketball, (which is also a 5v5 game) but when I played I was very focused on pleasing others, and I constantly switch my game plan to try and do what others wanted me to do, It made the learning process very stressful, and I wish I had understood and implemented this advice when I was learning to “climb” faster and enjoy the process more
    I was so attracted to this channel (even though I don’t play league currently) because you guys have truly mastered the art of teaching in a simple, succinct, and easy-to-understand way, not to mention having high quality production and visuals (for visual learners like myself) and great, (at times) universally applicable advice.

  • @ChincerDante
    @ChincerDante Před rokem +8

    I remember playing yuumi and being flame by my ADC for ditching him to follow Irelia...who was fed and carried the game

    • @Bruno-dv3ym
      @Bruno-dv3ym Před rokem

      you should be flamed just for playing yuumi, but other than that ye sure

  • @Porkey798
    @Porkey798 Před rokem +2

    Problem is typically all gold adc seem to think they are the master/chall adc when in reality they are simply making bad calls

  • @Sangsstuff
    @Sangsstuff Před 11 měsíci +2

    08:00 The malphite analogy is exactly what a friend of mine does every time he plays malphite or any big engage champ. 😂 He runs in randomly, ults and then spam pings everyone asking why we didn't follow. Meanwhile we're literally on the other side of the map, taking turrets and stuff just laughing at him.

  • @xxavi
    @xxavi Před rokem +10

    Something I've noticed is that Hector doesn’t ping their teammates to tell them that they shouldn’t keep going, IMO he should be pinging to tell them not to engage because it’s not worth ir

    • @willek1335
      @willek1335 Před rokem +6

      100%. This is so dumb, but they're doing it to garner views. Sadly.
      2:34 ward tri. Back ping heimrdinger to communicate intent. Sit a bit further back. He could prevent death, and bronze adc who stand that far up will not be able to mechanically avoid the gank, so this video seems to be off on a terrible start. Bronze adc don't have the mechanical skill of a challenger.

    • @Nemesis_T_Type
      @Nemesis_T_Type Před rokem +5

      Exactly. Just ping retreat multiple times if your team mates is about to do something dumb. Not pinging at all and doing whatever you want is bad team play.

  • @Tearnor
    @Tearnor Před rokem +11

    Send this video to Heimer pls xD

  • @MeitanteiKevin
    @MeitanteiKevin Před rokem +7

    I started to play like this this season (idk know why, it just happened) and it feels so much better. Even when I lose my lane, I mostly don't have more than 3 deaths and more farm than my enemy and it's so much more fun that way :D Even though it's still hard when you face a 10/0 Top and jgl after 5 minutes lol

  • @engulfingmist5040
    @engulfingmist5040 Před rokem +1

    /mute all is still proving to be the best feature in game,13 seasons STRONG

  • @HopeiThis
    @HopeiThis Před 10 měsíci

    I love how the heimer said "stop farming" like that's not the ADCs main job

  • @frozencloudzzful
    @frozencloudzzful Před 6 měsíci +1

    Imagine being the guy that spam pings the adc who then 1v2s the lane you died in seconds after he gets back 😂

  • @qwertycastingcoaching8444

    Diamond 4 ADC main here, I got super flamed by a bronze 1 player for not buying LDR on Ezreal and having serylda's. It's real amusing watching the low elo bains go boom trying to comprehend our decisions

  • @celesefernal2490
    @celesefernal2490 Před rokem

    "It's not that I can't hear you, I'm just actively ignoring you"

  • @cotegt
    @cotegt Před rokem +1

    Most unskilled, untalented players are spending time reacting by complaining and whining, while totally being unaware of their countless weaknesses and shortcomings. Which is the same reason why they stay stagnant. It's a catch-22 most people never break their whole lives.

  • @xboxman5ify
    @xboxman5ify Před rokem +6

    as a diamond player its so funny being flamed for making the right decision in gold or lower. they're gold or lower for a reason they don't understand the game. if you're not at minimum platinum if you're trying to improve never listen to your teammates. macro in gold and lower is absolutely atrocious they'll make the wrong choice almost every time.

    • @florinalinmarginean1135
      @florinalinmarginean1135 Před rokem +1

      So, here's what I don't get: what are diamond and plat players doing in gold, silver or even bronze games? Sometimes I don't even understand who these videos are for.
      Are they aimed at entitled players who think they're better than everyone else at their rank, but stuck? Are they aimed at smurfs playing in lower elos to mitigate their frustration by telling them lower elo players are trash compared to them? (duh)
      That Heirmendinger is clearly an idiot because he's flaming. But what do plat and diamond players expect when playing in lower elos? Of course their teammates will make mistakes they wouldn't lmao
      This is legitimately annoying. I'm somewhat new to the game (level 40 and no rank) and all I do is run into "bronze" teammates complaining about my macro or my knowledge about enemy champions (160 champs btw). Just play at your elo ffs

    • @samogx86
      @samogx86 Před rokem +2

      @@florinalinmarginean1135 Some people can't climb anymore so they smurf and like the feeling of stomping on lower skill players, but I think a guide like this could help to improve poor game choices.

    • @samogx86
      @samogx86 Před rokem

      Yeah, there are lots of bad decisions, like chasing a champ with low hp but high mobility or trying to kill the tank just because he has 1/5 of hp while ignoring the ADC or tf against a fed team over and over again.

  • @felixkoenigproductions7644

    3:12 maybe the best tip I have heard so far.

  • @hunGRYninJAZ
    @hunGRYninJAZ Před rokem +9

    What do you do when that same support starts sabotaging the game? Like literally they do all that pinging then start stealing farm and or follow you around to steal farm. What do you do in those situations? Is there a video for that.

    • @saturn8641
      @saturn8641 Před rokem +2

      I usually just outplay them and get all the farm anyway

    • @paulgebeline9548
      @paulgebeline9548 Před rokem +4

      the amount of times this will happen is such a statistical anomaly in comparison to an entire games of games played that it simply isnt worth mentioning. In these rare cases tho just ignore, report, and move on :D

  • @pablocassani143
    @pablocassani143 Před rokem +9

    Every meta is team fighting meta in low elo. ᕙ⁠(⁠ ͡⁠◉⁠ ͜⁠ ⁠ʖ⁠ ͡⁠◉⁠)⁠ᕗ

  • @kuwejtyt1680
    @kuwejtyt1680 Před 7 měsíci +1

    i was flamed for killing minions with that one support item. And for "stealing" kills with pyke R. And for sacrificing myself to defend my adc worth 400 gold. And for NOT sacrificing myself when i was worth 300G and my adc was useless. Being a support is hell

    • @kuwejtyt1680
      @kuwejtyt1680 Před 7 měsíci

      also i don't sacrifice myself anymore because the adc always thinks i'm engaging a fight and dies. Even when i ping to retreat

  • @Axenadrel
    @Axenadrel Před rokem +1

    gold platinium elo is pretty funny, smuring from master and being called "hardstuck plat", I love that lmao

  • @djjazzyjeff1232
    @djjazzyjeff1232 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Everyone forgets that it's an OBJECTE GAME not TEAM DEATHMATCH.

  • @achillesv8980
    @achillesv8980 Před rokem +1

    I love adding the randoms here you call out and telling them about the videos

  • @tanuki88
    @tanuki88 Před rokem +4

    I wanna add this guy on league and send him the link to the video and the comments roasting him XD

  • @theguillaume4683
    @theguillaume4683 Před rokem +3

    needed to hear that as a adc thank you!

  • @ivantheturtle3701
    @ivantheturtle3701 Před rokem

    This is one of the most important videos on the channel for low elo players. This type of things happen CONSTANTLY, and I've always been conflicted on wether to follow my teammates or follow proper gameplan.

  • @takuyamatsuda7214
    @takuyamatsuda7214 Před rokem +1

    I mean, to be fair there could be a lot that Sivir could say. Letting your team know your intentions can save them from baiting themselves

  • @samogx86
    @samogx86 Před rokem +1

    Sometimes my support starts to roam for no reason, or my team starts to fight with no objectives in mind, just trying to get kills, I usually try to keep farming but then they start to flame me, so I go and join them and then we all die and I fall behind even more.

  • @jeffreyzilla
    @jeffreyzilla Před rokem +4

    My decision making skills: "If we go together we're more likely to succeed"

    • @felixgabby8801
      @felixgabby8801 Před rokem

      Mines: *hears pinging* > *drops everything* > I am coming friends!

  • @deton8811
    @deton8811 Před 11 měsíci

    3:15 is exactly what heimer's in mind. if another player applied this to himself, it will just get worse 😂

  • @thesfnb.5786
    @thesfnb.5786 Před rokem

    0:00 And every jungler knows the pain of being flamed by their team for existing

  • @matiasson5741
    @matiasson5741 Před rokem +1

    I once got flamed for not ganking top. I just finished red, we were blue side.

  • @Darkslayer125
    @Darkslayer125 Před rokem +1

    Not gonna lie, hector not typing, pinging and communicating is also the reason why they lost. If you ARE confident in your decisions, at least ping and tell them.
    Some are smart enough to listen, although most are still too dumb to listen.

    • @Bruno-dv3ym
      @Bruno-dv3ym Před rokem

      you are going to lose a lot of time typing, tho i can maybe agree with the pings on most situations.

  • @manuelmanolo7099
    @manuelmanolo7099 Před rokem +1

    Still make sure that your teammates know what you are doing though. Always ping them back if you think they are making a mistake.

  • @Inpheksion
    @Inpheksion Před rokem +1

    Step 1 for anyone genuinely trying to improve their play is "/mute all"

  • @Dr.Zohoor
    @Dr.Zohoor Před 7 měsíci +1

    2:32 I like the way you teach here, more guide videos plz, thanks

  • @AtomicGG
    @AtomicGG Před rokem +1

    That's why i never play botlane, you need to type fast /mute all

  • @mrjo.1355
    @mrjo.1355 Před rokem

    It's almost every other game these days if you do something against a toxic tilted players judgement they will just aimlessly run around blowing summs for the next 15 minutes. So very common it's hard to want to queue up anymore.

  • @thegreattuna7187
    @thegreattuna7187 Před rokem +1

    As a prior support, the support's only job is to support not dictate.

  • @lissandraaaeune
    @lissandraaaeune Před rokem +3

    Got to master în my 3rd season and i decided to play in low elo for the preseason to help my friends. I get triple the amount of hate when i try to push when i want to take objectives. The ego some players have in this elo. Lol

  • @MiniKodjo
    @MiniKodjo Před 11 měsíci

    you guys cant imagine how many games i won just by setting the chat to "Party Only" and focus on my self and not what my mates are doing

  • @HelloThere-ws4li
    @HelloThere-ws4li Před 6 měsíci

    Ironic how I run into this video the moment I get on CZcams after getting spammed pinged by a teemo with 100 cs in 30 mins.

  • @Kalinskiya
    @Kalinskiya Před rokem

    My teammates love to make the choice feeding the enemy team from champion select. they are so good atr this.

  • @user-ok8yo7fs8q
    @user-ok8yo7fs8q Před rokem +1

    The main takeaway is that you can listen to your teammates, but only if you see sense in that

  • @NikolomkLP
    @NikolomkLP Před rokem +1

    I don't know about this guide chief. The only reason this style of gameplay works is because Sivir is a challenger player in gold, I don't think your average plat adc can solo carry a game by hoarding gold for himself.

  • @redshirt49
    @redshirt49 Před rokem

    At least he had teammates making calls.

  • @MrDrekki
    @MrDrekki Před rokem

    till the moment , you tilted your teammates so hard they run it down. which is 80% of games.

  • @zachreed9836
    @zachreed9836 Před rokem

    I find it hilarious that some people actually say challenger players AKA pro players are washed and yet their levels above them.

  • @boomknight1015
    @boomknight1015 Před rokem +1

    Most of the calls I ever make is for people to back off, I ping danger on them at lest twice. Often it's 2 people trying to push in as their team revives, or our team is doing other things split and someone is pushing up with no team pressure. I make sure to ping well before it's too late and not when they are getting attacked or dead.
    I feel like everyone likes having a team mate like that to remind you to look at your gosh darned map.

  • @goldenbuttplug3205
    @goldenbuttplug3205 Před rokem

    99.99 percent of the time I hit that mute all the very moment I load into a ranked game and just assume my team is just 4 absolute freaks

  • @SIRiDannyM
    @SIRiDannyM Před 11 měsíci

    One time I was flamed for 1v5 defending my nexus while my team was fighting baron and elder drag at the same time. They died to both objectives

  • @zachh6868
    @zachh6868 Před rokem

    I REALLY hope they sent this video to that feeding Heimerdinger

  • @apricotgrl
    @apricotgrl Před rokem

    imagine being the heimerdinger and finding this post LMAO... poor guy i would be so embarrassed

  • @viniciusricardodearaujo7662

    Im usually the one getting calls 😔😔😔 i usually think its pretty easier to force objectives to make the other team have to always face decisions

  • @maartenbondt9600
    @maartenbondt9600 Před rokem

    Heimer: “stop farming”
    It’s free farm… stop engaging

  • @quanghuynguyen8672
    @quanghuynguyen8672 Před rokem +2

    2:39 why didnt challenger player use ping to make heimerdinger to fallback, how can gold understand the challenger decision

    • @optimumgaming7404
      @optimumgaming7404 Před rokem

      Does not matter. Challenger player 1v9. Doesn't need teammates.

  • @johnnycruz5209
    @johnnycruz5209 Před rokem +1

    This all sounds good until that flamer afks because you won’t follow his calls 😂😂😂

    • @Bruno-dv3ym
      @Bruno-dv3ym Před rokem

      he would find a reason tho AFK, it is not your fault

  • @JTHWZ
    @JTHWZ Před rokem

    i love this shot with people over 40 talking about league

  • @ponteusbolecki8103
    @ponteusbolecki8103 Před rokem

    Sometimes I'm boosting my friends and I see low elo in person. When players don't listen calls like objectives, or idea of not taking all fights possible. That warding is important, and when you don't see enemy on the map, you should assume they are close to you so you should run back.

  • @SorakaOTP462
    @SorakaOTP462 Před rokem

    That heim is the most typical silver player in a regular soloq game.

  • @veggiesweet3824
    @veggiesweet3824 Před rokem +2

    I mean making your own decisions is cool and all but in low elo we all think we are right so sometimes to win you just have to compromise and listen to the idiot teamates because unless you are that much and you know you can 1v9, they will int too far for you to recover the game alone and thats not even mentioning every1 going mental boom and afk bcs you ignore them. Welcome to gold!

    • @CustardCream33
      @CustardCream33 Před rokem

      Yeah that's the everlasting see-saw of decision making

  • @gordijancirovic26
    @gordijancirovic26 Před 8 měsíci

    I usually play champs im comfortable with in ranked games while mastering others in normals to keep relying on supports on minimum.

  • @Rjw1214
    @Rjw1214 Před rokem

    Seeing the new ping animations make me feel old

  • @youvebeenslain6085
    @youvebeenslain6085 Před rokem +2

    Real nice, personally I wouldnt have baited myself for baron since I'm just playing with a bunch of animals that wont make use of baron anyone because they try to buff the jungle camps it seems and I need to guide them towards the enemy nexus like an elo cowboy with my horses and donkeys

  • @tomcrawley3343
    @tomcrawley3343 Před 7 měsíci

    When I do this my team die instantly and then I can't recall before getting killed

  • @DIXYPROO
    @DIXYPROO Před rokem

    sadly out of the whole video the majority of low elo players will only hear: "don't listen to your teammates calls" which will only result in an even more split up teams and toxicity. remember most of the players are still kids who only hear stuff that makes them special

  • @icyth
    @icyth Před rokem

    The biggest problem is you have to go with your team mates dumb plays or they'll start inting out of their mind, at least in bronze/silver, lucky his support was gold. You have to at least PRETEND that you're doing what your team mates want, so they don't throw.

  • @KeyserFX
    @KeyserFX Před rokem

    As a jungler I mute everyone for the first 10-15 minutes of the game. Helps wonders

  • @JCDay
    @JCDay Před rokem

    In league you just have to realize that there is no one you can trust, not even yourself

  • @dbjungle
    @dbjungle Před rokem +2

    I fully believe in this method. I couldn't get back to gold after starting to OTP Samira in S11 on NA. I moved to Europe and easily got gold on 2 of my accounts playing like this as OTP Samira in S12 on EUW. I did get flamed A LOT, but I won way more late game than any other season. The reality is that non-ADC mains just don't understand the role well in low elo. Most support mains in gold and below don't even understand the level 2 power spike or even the most basic wave manipulation. My mechanics suck. If I can get to gold anyone can do it just by using their brain a bit more.

    • @beeaasstt1300
      @beeaasstt1300 Před rokem

      i think with this we can argue that NA is harder than EUW

    • @dbjungle
      @dbjungle Před rokem +3

      @@beeaasstt1300 LOL, I wish I could agree, but I can't. The players on EUW are significantly better at rank parity with exception of the ADCs. ADC is probably even at rank parity.

    • @pallyibub
      @pallyibub Před rokem

      @@beeaasstt1300 Cope

  • @Samuel-eh6eg
    @Samuel-eh6eg Před rokem

    The unfortunate part of this entire piece of advice is that Heimer, in his delusion, is probably applying it as well because he thinks he's the most competent in the team, therefore it's only logical for him to call the shots while this pesky Sivir isn't cooperating

  • @SeraphX2
    @SeraphX2 Před rokem +1

    at the end of every game like this, you should tell them you are a Challenger and making a video for Skill-capped lol

  • @Dracogame
    @Dracogame Před rokem +1

    I feel like the worst they are the more they flame.
    Maybe because constantly blaming someone else for your mistakes doesn't push you to improve? I dunno.

  • @SolaceV9
    @SolaceV9 Před rokem +1

    you don't need to watch a 14 minute video to understand why you're getting flamed by a gold elo support. it's because they're piss horrible at the game and they don't think.
    I got you guys, it's no problem.

  • @Apoz
    @Apoz Před rokem

    ADC's have 46% winrate in all regions on all skill levels, 44% winrate in master & challenger.
    ADC is a bad role in general. Their kit sucks, the champions are built wrong. And crit is among the worst stats in the game (after HP).

  • @Alkalote
    @Alkalote Před rokem

    I usually have an adc that either never groups so we lose or always group so we lose. Just why can't they do both

  • @greenstrawberrygaming
    @greenstrawberrygaming Před 8 měsíci

    theres a thing i hate about bronze elo. I don't really play league to rank up but i just do it for the rewards. But anytime i ping any lane to be careful of a roam/ping an objective so we can start it nobody listens and they die due to the roam or i die because 50% of the enemy team jumps on me while doing drake

  • @MiZielek
    @MiZielek Před rokem

    8:38
    oh no, Jayce has no ultimate! What will we do now!

  • @LadungsBlitz
    @LadungsBlitz Před rokem +1

    Easy fix for all of this = /mute all at the start of every game just unmute the jgl pings so you see his Gank

  • @skywalkerjohn8965
    @skywalkerjohn8965 Před rokem +1

    There's this one instance where my mid laner got ganked.
    I was playing pyke with my ult up.
    I went up and not only kept my mid alive, but also got 2 execution.
    My adc died and called me an idiot for and I quote "Left the game carry died"
    He played ezreal with flash up against Lulu and Twitch. So unless he just walked up without taken into consideration about that little rat, he ain't dying anytime soon

    • @Bruno-dv3ym
      @Bruno-dv3ym Před rokem

      you did good, at least better than a lot of " i left my carry for [reason]" on comments

    • @skywalkerjohn8965
      @skywalkerjohn8965 Před rokem

      @Bruno I am a supporter main in any kind of moba so I know the importance of helping teammates and leaving your laner in the right situation.

  • @rakaross186
    @rakaross186 Před 8 měsíci

    would've been hilarious to see that heimer damage and score after game kekw

  • @axeell92
    @axeell92 Před rokem

    9:29 is EXACTLY how i imagine my team looks :D

  • @niklas7355
    @niklas7355 Před 8 měsíci

    This Heimer is making my head hurt