THE HORRIFYING CASE OF MARY PHAGAN - at Marietta City Cemetery in Marietta Georgia.
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Thirteen-year-old Mary Phagan is found sexually molested and murdered in the basement of the Atlanta, Georgia, pencil factory where she worked. Her murder later led to one of the most disgraceful episodes of bigotry, injustice and mob violence in American history.
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The ADL was formed to protect this monster. Keep that in mind should you ever consider donating.
The ADL was formed to protect Jim Conely?
Yes and they still won't let this story. Leo Frank was sentenced to hang by a jury that included many Jewish. He tried to blame it on a black man and ended up being lynched
@@reapthewhirlwind4166 Let's not forget that the evidence was so overwhelmingly clear that Leo Frank murdered and graped a innocent little girl, 13 year old Mary Phagan, the KKK (Klu Klux Klan) came to the defense of the black man Leo Frank was trying to frame as the purpetrator of the crimes...KKK coming to speak in the defense of a black man in deep south Georgia at a time when racism was still quite a thing should say alot about just how guilty Leo Frank was, and what a sick evil disgusting man he indeed was... He got what he deserved!!!
The stories are always so sad especially when they involve children but they need to be told. Someone needs to be their voice. Thank you for what you do. Love all your videos.
@Sharon Q Sad thing is in the south she was of marrying age, which is terrible, jerry lee lewis is one guy that springs to mind, bloody terrible.
@Tom HirensâŠyouâre exactly right. Once a young girl had her first menstrual cycle, she was considered a woman and then able to be married off. This happened to my Granny. She was only 13 when she was married off to my Grandpa (old lecher is more like it, Grandpa or not) and he was a full grown man of 33. I canât even begin to imagine, being so young, scared to death & married off to someone more than twice your age. Unfortunately, this isnât an isolated incident and parents married off young daughters like this all the time. People were dirt poor, times were hard and if you married off a daughter that was one less mouth sitting at the dinner table that you had to feed. That sounds harsh but itâs the truth & how a lot of people looked at it. My Grandpa passed away when he was 77. My Grandma never remarried even though she was only in her late 50âs when he passed. She always said that there wasnât enough money in the world to make her want to deal with all the bulls@*t a second time around. She had a hard life. As a younger man my Grandpa was a drunk & a gambler. A neâer do well who left home and stayed gone for sometimes months at a time. When he did come home heâd either be flat busted or with his pockets stuffed full with cash. My Granny never saw any of it though. The only time my Pa was ever generous was at Christmas time. The kids usually got a peppermint stick, a stocking filled with fruit, nuts, and a little bit of penny candy and a new pair of shoes that were expected to last all year. If a kid had a growth spurt and grew out of their shoes before the next Christmas, they were usually SOL. My Granny always said that if it hadnât been for a few good neighbors, a lot of times she, my dad, and his brothers and sister would have starved. Itâs hard to visualize with the abundance of everything that we have today that there was a time when people were just so desperately poor that even small children were expected to work. So very sad that any child should have to suffer in that way. đą
@@MeMe-nw9mq wow, thanks for the insight.
Yes Ron, thank you for all you do. Alot of times you are the last voice of the innocent, or should I say the last caring voice of the innocent. The flowers you put on some of the graves are heart touching. I'm thinking of the yellow roses you have placed on several graves at one time. (Mothers, sisters, daughters, sons etc....thank you for having such a warm and kind heart.
It's jus as sad as The George Stinney Jr. Trial.. :'(
What a sad and horrific story. Definitely aggravating to see how they handled the evidence too. She does have a nice memorial marker.
Yeah it is a beautiful cemetery, the stones there are pretty amazing. Thanks for stopping by Rhett.
Such a sad story. I'm glad that she has a historical plaque for her story.
I feel so sad for her đ
Such a beautiful little girl so very sad couldn't imagine the pain and suffering she did.
Incredible story! People are brutal. If people lynched child predators now, there'd be death in the streets everywhere. The cemeteries in Georgia are just beautiful. I love the tiered look with the short walls.
They are beautiful. My favorite here is oakwood cemetery. So peaceful and beautiful. My granny actually lived few houses from it . So she could walk to it because of my grandpa and two children
There would also be many presditors thinking twice before preying on children.
I grew up in Marietta and even in the 1960's and 70's people still talked about it
I just watched the 50 year old DNA recovery case. It makes me wonder...will crimes this old also become solvable eventually?
I really feel that we will be experiencing technologies in the near future, that many of us have not even dreamt about.
It is not about catching the criminal in these cases; it is about uncovering secrets that should never have been kept, and bringing justice to those forgotten & the wrongly punished.
I agree completely... wouldn't it be wonderful if this case was definitively solved
Wouldnât THIS be fascinating, though! Marvelous advances in DNA testing. But do we have DNA evidence in this case that contains so many layers?
@@31Alden it was a famous case. They may have kept some of the evidence just for posterity. Who knows? It could be on display in the local museum or police archives bldg.
Antisocial personality disorder is an inability to feel anxiety so those with this disorder have little or no conscience. Anxiety seems to be our inner police officer forcing us not to kill or harm each other. I think we should use gene editing tools like CRISPR to give everyone the ability to feel anxiety.
Why would it matter? That would be a ridiculous waste of resources given everyone involved is dead and dirt
Wow! Ron, you have been Blessed with the gift of story telling. That was a fantastic story. Sad in so many ways. Thanks again!
ty Angela, you inspire me!
Wow Ron. Poor Mary. After what she had to endure at such a young age and then to have her life taken away from her by such a tragic and evil way. Its also so tragic that this Alonso did not come forward with this information earlier but like you said Ron he had his reasons. He had been threatened by Conelley and the clan were still around. Very difficult. So easy to criticise isn't it. It shows you how bad policing was back then. Not to question more people. So many mistakes. With modern techniques like we have now there is a much better chance of getting a conviction. What a beautiful headstone. Lovely words. May she be at peace with her family now. God bless. Thanks again for what you do Ron in bringing us these stories. Stay safe. Take care.
What an interesting, yet horrifying story. That poor sweet little girl. God bless her & May she Rest In Peace forever.
She was a pretty child that didn't deserve this. May she rest in peace.
If she was ugly would she have deserved it?
No child would deserve this.
Indeed Rest in Peace Angel Mary Phagan & thanks for trying to plead the case of those who support your cause to the angels close to God the Father & Christ the Son!
I have always been fascinated by cemeteries and wanted to know about the life in the dash between the dates. I thought maybe I was a little off, but now I know I am definitely not alone.
Thank you for bringing these stories to us.
I have to agree with you that cemeteries are fascinating, especially century cemeteries. I like to stroll thru the older ones & read the stones. I also thought I must be morbid, or something wrong with me... but actually it's history. These are all people who existed. They had a life, a job, families, and were an existence in their time. I like to wonder what they were like, what they did, what life was like to live in that time. The older tomb stones tell the most detailed stories ... their birth date, and date of death, down to not only years & months of existance but days as well. Sometimes they even reveal how they died. This is a very interesting site, glad I found it. ....And in my opinion I think they got the right guy for this crime. His behaviour alone, when first interviewed, is tell-tale.. and the fact that he tried to say he hadn't seen Mary - but when confronted with their knowledge of Mary being there to get her pay... then he tried to redeem himself by suddenly remembering "Oh yeah, she was in to get her pay" . ... You don't forget a detail like that. He probably figured, with racism being the way it was, that he could get away with it and have a scapegoat in a black man being in the building too. RIP Little Mary.
That little "----" dash between birth date and death date is how you spent your life.
@@lindagordon2977 exactly. I always wonder what was in that dash meaning, how they spent their life. Who were they, where did they work, were they married, did they have children etc.
Pitter Pat Have you read the poem called âThe Dashâ by Linda Ellis? I heard it fir the first time last year at a family friendâs funeral & itâs definitely a very powerful poem!
@@nikkilynnebreder3233 I looked up the poem and loved it! Thank you for mentioning that to me.
I am IN together with the whole Gang ! Thank you Mr Ron for your almost every day interesting history videos ! You're absolutely a good narrator ! Greetings from Charlotte NC !
I was noon and in Marietta, GA, born 56. Knew of Mary's murder at the Pencil Factory as a child. Things were very different then, Hells Angels would be on the Marietta Square constantly, thought not much of it. I wouldn't go back to my home my own ever.
The amount of research you put into your videos is absolutely amazing!! The way you remember these innocent victims of horrendous crimes is humbling. I love you videos and so does my 12 year old nephew! Subscribers and supporters for life đ
I can still remember my grandmother singing the Ballad of Mary Phagan to me when I was growing up. It was a very popular song at the time and she knew every word. My grandparents grew up in the area. It profoundly affected my grandmother who was ten years old when the murder occurred. It was a mystery often discussed. They both lived long enough for the 1982 death bed testimony but they were still never sure. I think that only Leo would have been able to get her to go onto the floor under some pretext that day (if she was killed near her station). She was excited about getting to the parade. I don't believe she would have taken orders or been friendly with Jim. But either way, Jim Connelly was at the very least an accomplice. There will probably never be a definitive answer. Heartbreaking.
@@susanivy3619 I have no idea what really happened but I was just trying to imagine what would have kept Mary from leaving ASAP after getting paid (IF she was attacked at her work station). I envisioned her boss, after handing her pay packet, telling her that he needs to show her something in her area. She would probably go willingly. I have no clue. Those were just my thoughts. My grandparents didn't know either. I am certainly no expert . Just speculating.
My grandmother used to sing that song to us, too. My grandmother was born in 1903 so she would have been a very young girl when Mary died but it made a big impression on her. I guess the 1982 death bed testimony reignited interest in the story because there was a TV movie about the story back in the 1980's. I remember my grandmother was very excited to see the movie on TV and she told me all about what she heard back when she was a little girl.
@@letitbee7248 thanks for mentioning the movie. Just looked it up on CZcams. About to watch it now
I agree a young white girls isn't going anywhere with a black man at that time and i'm a black woman that knows my history and the hatred towards blk ppl even today. I think Jim witnessed it and was the clean up guy. And i'm quite sure if the white men of that time thought any blk man was responsible there wouldn't have been a trial they would have found a tree.
@@SuperTruthful I'm afraid you are probably right.
Iâm from this part of Georgia, and my mother was fascinated by Maryâs tragic death. She told me the story over and over as I was just as fascinated. The hard part to reconcile is that weâll never know the truth. Mary and her murderer took those details to their deaths. I was hoping when you got to the end that you had finally got some justification for what happened to Little Mary Phagan. Thatâs how my mother always started the story, âLittle Mary Phagan.â
My hometown Marietta, GA. Different version than I have ever heard. I've seen the movie. There have also been a lot of case studies that I read through many, many years ago. I was into Genealogy a few years back and my great grandmother was a Phagan. My mother said she was somehow related. I remember something about that lynch mob containing several of the Phagans. Don't know if that's true. Anyway, enjoyed Ron.
P.s. I don't think Leo Frank did it.
Thanks for covering this story!
Why do you think it wasn't him?
Great video! My thing is this...there were so many rumors regarding Leo Frank and his use of the factory as a discrete way to meet with women/girls. If Jim Conley wasn't the lookout for Frank during these "visits", then why was he paid so generously in compared to the other factory workers...especially since he was just the janitor (and a drunk one at that).
Another thing, can someone please explain why his wife Lucille explicitly made it clear that she didn't want to be buried next to him when she died. She is portrayed as being a faithful and devoted wife all throughout the trial. He was buried in NY, and there was an open plot beside him for her...why would she choose instead to be cremated?
Excellent questions!
Wow, being the daughter of a prominent rabbi, you don't get cremated. It's not a typical Jewish burial. That's curious, most definitely.
Will Connolly was an on-again-off-again employee who had been fired.
â@MmmBop he was a prominent wealthy white man who happen to be rabbi
Great questions. He also shouldâve noted that governor Slayton had a conflict of interest, being that he was associated with Frankâs legal team. Slayton was then ran out of Georgia⊠only to come back 10 years later and suddenly become the president of the bar association for the state of GeorgiaâŠ
Ron you did a great job telling this sad story of a sweet child of 13. Beautiful young girl abd I fell such sadness for her family... Especially her mother....thanks for sharing this story of Mary who has my name and My grandma Mary dad's mother. Makes me think of my sweet grandma Mary she was born 1900 year before Mary Phagan. Stay safe and warm and safe travels and b healthy as well.....b careful on the roads Ron. đ
I had heard of this one, but it's been an age since I had even thought of it. Hard times back than. When I am at my worst I look at what childhood and adulthood was for my great grandparents, and I thank God for how spoiled I am.
With all the turn about a in the story you did a great job of keeping it short. I am going to go look for this survey. I have always had my thoughts on the guilty one.
I think this is an excellent illustration of "just because someone's discriminated against, it doesn't mean they're always innocent".
Actually, it's quite a poor illustration since he was innocent. Maybe you were thinking of OJ.
Thank you so much. I was having a tough day but hearing this angel's story enjoying the views of this peaceful walk and the newspaper clips and such. I know it's been years but I pray she's at peace.
So sad but because of you, she will not be forgotten. Thank you for sharing!
The girl Mary Phagan was very pretty and she looked older for her age 13 years old when she was killed ! RIP her soul .
It's unbelievably eerie to come across this TODAY...June 1st...Mary's birthday. It's also only days after I had mentioned the movie to my son & father...something I've never discussed w/ anyone since watching it as a child with my Grandparents in the 1980s. THAT MOVIE SCARED THE HELL OUT OF ME.
The song engraved in my memory & most of the story for all the decades since. I don't recall why they watched it, if they were familiar with the story or not. But I know it's stuck w/ me my entire life. Long before the movie, I used to have nightmares involving victorian children (still do). No idea why, wasn't familiar with what they looked like...no dolls, etc. The movie really got to me, which is probably why my Grandparents let me watch. It's the first time I remember realizing the world wasn't all Care Bears, rainbows & unicorns. Everything safe, happy & wonderful my child eyes believed it to be. If that was their intention, it worked. I was horrified people could do such horrible things, such horrible things to children, that justice doesn't always win. I wasn't so sure her murder was found, but always hoped she haunted the hell out of them.
Thanks for sharing this, I never realized how huge this story was.
Great job, Ron, thank you for remembering little Mary!
For those who want to know lots more, I recommend the book, âAnd the Dead Shall Rise,â by the noted journalist, Steve Oney, who spent 17 years researching and writing this story.
Its an excellent book. I read it in 2016. I didn't put it down until I had finished it .I highly recommend it.
Thank you. Iâll look for it.
Thank you for other interesting stories. Stay safe love, Scotland đŽó §ó ąó łó Łó Žó ż
I love wandering in old cemeteries and I love the work you do! Thank you.
Love listening to you narrate your visits. You bring it all back to life. Thank you.
You always make beautiful tribute videos. The end of the video with Mary's picture and the music fading out just a beautiful ending to such a sad story. Rest in peace Mary and her family.
I think this crime could've have been solved If the police didn't lean out the notes to the newspaper.. I mean like really??!! what police department does that?? Total incompetence!! I don't know who did it since there was no real evidence against Jim or Leo.
Rest in peace precious young lady. Rest in peace everyone. Stay safe everyone.
I LOVED THE WAY THAT YOU TOLD THE STORY! I ALSO ADMIRED HOW SENSATIVE YOU WERE WHILE EXPLAINING IT! ESPECIALLY WHILE DESCRIBING UNCOMFORTABLE& POSSIBLY TROUBLING MOMENTS! YR A EXTRAORDINARY AMAZON SOUL! &I MEAN THIS SINCERELY! THANKS FOR ALL YR HARD WORK!!!!
Very well told, thank you. Too sad for such a beautiful young lady đ
Such a sad ending for a beautiful life. Life is so precious to be tossed away so carelessly. Great video. Thank you.
My grandmother used to sing a song about little Mary. I'd feel so sad when I heard it.
I just absolutely love your channel. You do such an amazing job in keeping these precious souls alive through your amazing storytelling, and in-depth research. Thank you. â€ïž
Good job as always Ron! You rock!
hi ron!!â€â€â€ what a really sad story about Mary P. monsters are everywhere!!! even today!!!!! thank you for remembering her, ron!â€â€
Thank you for covering Mary Phagan, I think you did a really lovely job. I am one of the people who emailed you about it a few months ago. I had said then that so often in modern retellings of this murder, there is so much indignation about what happened to Leo Frank, that Mary as a person is lost in the shuffle. That's not to say that the injustice Leo suffered shouldn't be examined and condemned.
However, I would like to interject that it's important to understand why there was this huge need in The South at that time to protect women and children from "outsiders". By this time many families in Georgia had mothers and grandmothers still alive who had been raped and otherwise assaulted during the Yankee invasion, occupation, Sherman's March to the Sea, and then the 12 years of martial law that followed the end of The War. People grew up with these stories and seeing the psychological damage inflicted on their female family members by the terrible memory of it. Some women went through complete mental breakdowns and never recovered from it. There are some truly horrific stories. So many Southern men vowed "never again" would that be allowed to happen to their women. When this murder of Mary happened, it reawakened so much rage and unhealed wounds.
I think that is part of why the focus was so much on Leo Frank, described in accounts of the time as a "Yankee Jew", and thus a true outsider. Jim Conley was not an outsider, he was "one of ours", and that trumped that he was black and likely the murderer. There was more disdain for outsiders than for locally known blacks. It just shows that Southern History is not always as cut and dried as some people think it is.
Additionally people should know that Jim Conley was a lifelong criminal and was killed in some kind of bar fight in the 1940s or 50s, I can't recall exactly when. But he lived a rough life and people who act that way are usually done in by their lifestyle. In my heart of hearts, Conley is guilty as homemade sin.
Interesting !
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Thanks for the information note Melanie.
You make a good point. I tend to think you are right
So sad đą Thank you for your presentation. I'm really glad that these precious people have you to tell their story and honor their memory.
Thank you Ron for yet another fascinating post, stay safe on your travels & best regards from us here across the pond in the U.K. đđŒ
thanks for another good tale! if you ever get to north central new mexico, there are some old and charismatic cemeteries, Tajique and Chilili.....old Spanish land grant cemeteries.....at Tajique i can tell you how to get to an old grave covered with a stone cairn which is so old a lot of the stones have traveled a few feet, but it's unmistakably the size of a grave
I remember a story about an eight year old boy, who had been forgotten in a factory. He unfortunately been locked inside over night. He was torn apart by the rats! Poor, poor child!
I really enjoy your work ! I love hearing about history of forgotten people it doesn't take long to be forgotten in such a fast pace world in which we live in today! Thank you for sharing ! Sincerely Mary
What a horrific tale. Poor Mary, a little girl with a whole life Infront of her. If the police stupidly didn't give the notes to the newspaper,they would of got fingerprints from it. But even then,they may not of proved who the killer was,just who wrote them. Thankyou Ron. Rest in peace Mary đ
You are an incredible story teller. Thank you for your incredible work
The kidnapping of Leo Frank from Macon was quite intense and well planned. He was actually driven almost 2 hrs from Macon, transferred from car to car and lynched across the street from Mary's grandmother's home in Marietta on what was part of Frey's Gin Road. There is a very hard to see plaque there and a bridge and highway offramp stands where he was lynched. (I live very near to it. It is relatively close to the Big Chicken - a local landmark). I have read a great deal about the case and truly believe Conley was the murderer.
Many of the people in the postcards and the lynching group themselves were prominent members of local Marietta politics and society.
It is an incredibly sad story and there are so many layers to it that it is hard fathom. The scariest part is that Conley matches the description of a serial killer in the Cabbage Town area of Atlanta. What a frightening prospect!
Thank you for sharing this.
You mean Conley/Connelly might have killed OTHERS???
@@amysbees6686 yes.. look into the Cabbage town serial killer aka the Atlanta Ripper! It's crazy
You beat me to the Frey's Gin Rd part. I agree with you. I think it was Conely
It was almost certainly Conley. I remember reading deep into this story when I moved to Atlanta about 8 years ago, the few locals that are left are still very positive it was Leo. Not because of evidence, but because Leo was Jewish and from the north. Leo never stood a chance, he was lynched because of his race and post-reconstruction era sentiments. Cabbage Town is a cool little place, especially Little's. Keep Cabbage Town shitty.
@@westenicho At the time Jewish families owned many of the prominent businesses in Atlanta. Leo Frank lived in Druid Hills , which is where the movie Driving Miss Daisy was set. Atlanta had only got limited electricity in 1912. Rural families had migrated to the city looking for work. Many families then lived on what would be less than minimum wage today. Leo Frank was actually born in Cuero Texas , but his family was a relatively wealthy from New York. That Phagan was killed on a Confederate celebration day fueled the resentment toward a northern Jew. The conspirators who lynched Frank were well known but they were never prosecuted. The lynching led to the revival.of the KKK, which had faded since the 1800s. The pencil factory building still.exists.
I live about an hour from Marietta. Never knew about her. I will go visit for myself. Thank you for sharing people's stories.
I think it was done by two...there is no way in a factory someone could not see you!!!
RIP Mary...thanks Ron for sharing!!đđđ»
Interesting story about little Mary Phagan.
Hope she is resting in peace đđ»
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Handwriting sample from the suspects could have identified the author of the notes or at least cleared those who had not been the author, but that is too much to expect from those so incompetent as to lend out evidence to commercial interest.
In his trial testimony, Conley admitted to writing the notes.
My instincts tell me it was Jim Connolly. Do they know if Jim could read/write, and was her paycheck ever cashed, or if it was ever found? Such an incredible story! Thank you for sharing it.
Yeah you would say that
@@preallz2493 what do you mean by that. Let's hear it. Say what you really mean.
Leo Frank was guilty beyond any doubt.
She was paid $1.20 in cash by Leo Frank in the office. Her purse and the money were never found.
According to his trial testimony, Conley had only about 1 year of formal education (not unusual at the time), but he had learned on his own how to read and write on a very basic level. He admitted to writing the notes.
Ron, such a great video and thank you for what you do. Thanks for sharing and have a great weekend.
Thank you for another episode.
Sounds like the governor was the only detective involved in poor Little Maryâs case. And Connelly tried to pin it on the taller, slimmer black man. He probably figured with racism as bad as it was the authorities would be looking at both of them first. But when he seen his opportunity to blame her supervisorâŠhe ran with it. I wonder if her pay was found in her purse?
Thanks for telling Maryâs story, Ron.
RIP Little Maryđâ€ïž
Yes, Governor Slaton was the only person who really investigated this case. He was a hero.
Connly probably took the money. A witness saw Connly disposing of the body by himself, not with Frank. He passed a lie detector test. Alanzo Mann was the 12 year old office boy.
Connly probably killed her for the money. A witness saw Connly disposing of the body by himself, not with Frank. He passed a lie detector test. Alanzo Mann was the 12 year old office boy.
Neither her purse nor the $1.20 in pay was ever found.
This poor child had to endure so much in her short life! Horrible way to leave this earth. This story has so many incredible twists & turns. It was handled so badly by the police. Rest in peace Little Mary.
For the times & circumstance, considering the $, they were up against, the police did a good job with the technology at the time! Then Prosecutor, DA Hugh Dorsey did a tremendous job with the communication technology of the time in figuring Leo Frank out! Leo Max Frank was an evil man who used his family $ & connections to the max to escape from what he did! Frank's wife knew what he was & his mom knew he was twisted but wouldn't acknowledge the kind of man she was enabling! The police protected the black men from Frank's enablers & agents! I give them credit as I do the Knights of Mary Phagan not ensuring that Frank paid for his crime but would never be able to do it again! As a serial molester who was escalating, it would have happened again & that is the ultimate justification for capital punishment!
Great video Ron ....RIP Mary love how you show the pictures as you tell the story.
If anyone wants to read a really good book about the child labor practices in the factories at the early part of the century. Read a book called The Jungle, by Upton Sinclair. It was written in 1902. Great book.
Iâve lived in Marietta my whole life and always thought Leo Frank was innocent. Such a tragic story for our city. Too bad one man got away with such a horrible crime. Iâm sure the Lord had his final judgment in the end.
What makes you think that?
What possible reason do you have for thinking Leo is innocent?? Every bit of information leads to him being guilty as hell.
I saw another coverage that said, Mary was on the train with a 14 year old friend, a boy. She made plams to meet with him and others later , she told him she did not like to pick up her check because she was scared of Leo. Other little girls testified that He was inapporate with them. But thats ftom another coverage. It all boils fown to what os really being covered and and by whom. More tjan a hundred years later, who really knows now?
Leo frank was so guilty that the KKK defended the black guy
@@samuelbarrett9403 The supposed evidence against Frank is a pile of garbage and the evidence for his innocence is solid and plentiful. Stop reading neo-Nazi propaganda, read the trial records for yourself and think for yourself. That's what I've tried to do and I was surprised by what the real evidence shows.
I absolutely love your channel⊠you are very compassionate and informative. I learn a lot
I remember it being more than seven cars that formed the motorcade that took Leo Frank to his death. But even if it was seven, who owned those cars? Who owned cars in 1914? The leading people in the community. Leo Frank was lynched by the most respected and affluent people in Marietta. This is something I can never forget.
The ADL
Connelly was washing the bloody shirt. Did the police look at the size of the shirt? Leo Frank was a small man. But judging from Connellyâs photo, he looked much bigger than Leo Frank. I know some of the evidence was circumstantial but I think Connelly was the murderer. I guess weâll never know for sure.đ€·đ»ââïž
There was definitely lying going on by Connolly with the lift episode. Poor Mary what a horrible way to die
I think Alonzo Mann was right. I read he was only fourteen years old at the time of her death. I think a part of him was scared to death, in saying anything. He was threatened. For a fourteen year old child, that probably crippled him from saying anything. He figured Jim Connelly killed his friend, and he wasn't afraid of taking a life. Jim would do the same thing to him, so he stayed quiet.
Honestly, I wouldnât speculate on who killed little Mary with the police botching things, plus not having all the facts. DNA has really been a godsend in solving so many criminal cases these days. I know there is no DNA collection from crime scenes this old but wouldnât that be cool.
Iâm not speculating when I say his wife knew he was guilty
@@robertpatterson9943his wife refused to be buried next to him
Thanks for remembering these children and others. You give a very methodical view and it shows with the professionalism that you share with your viewers...thanks very much..
Thank you for another brilliant video sad but you tell these stories so well and so respectful đđđ
I feel that Jim Connelly did it . The fact that Alonzo Mann confessed on his death bed about what he saw convinced me. Connelly fabricated all those lies , first to pin it on the night watchman by writing those notes and then accusing Frank of murdering the girl and payin g him to write the notes to put the blame on Newt Lee. This story had allot of twists . Little Mary Phagan was such a pretty little girl. She was so young and working to help her family. Such a sad but very interesting story. Good job Ron.đđâ€
It Amazed me you could tell that WHOLE story and Leave out the MOST Important Detail.
What are you Afraid of...???
Excellent video. Thank you.
So tragic. I canât believe nobody in the factory saw or heard anything. Then the police let the press borrow a key piece of evidence??? Rest In Peace young lady.
If you believe Alonzo Mann's story (told 70 years later), he saw Jim Conley carrying Mary's limp, unconscious body from the first floor to the basement, but he was just 14 years old at the time (working as Leo Frank's office boy) and was too scared to say anything after Conley told him that he would kill him if he ever said anything about what he saw that day.
Mannâs story is dodgy at best. He claimed he returned as an office boy on his day off (it was Confederate Memorial day) as though he could come in and work whenever. He claimed he told his mother that Connelly threatened him with his life and his mother told him to keep it a secret. Now itâs truly doubtful a black man killing a white girl now threatening a white boy would get away with that in the South during this time. On top of that, Connelly died in the fifties, leaving decades where Mann could have laid this claim. When Mann came out with these claims in the 80s, he was poor and in bad health in need of paying his medical bills. On top of all that, nothing Mann stated was new to the case as many suspected Frank told Connelly to drag the body away.
Just more garbage to muddy up the waters of Leo Frankâs utter guilt. Donât fall for it
Oh how sad. Have heard this but donât remember. I hope they didnât lynch the black night watchman. Will watch to the end. They made postcards for most of the lynchings those days. Iâve seen them online & they are gruesome. đ
forgot to mention that the cairn grave is a few hundred feet or yards from the Tajique cemetery, which isn't very big. the ancient Pueblo (Indian village) was plowed under by the ranch owner, it's very close to the cemetery, and there's a small lot where after a rain painted potshots seem to pop out of the ground. a local promised to show me the Conquistador graveyard which isn't on any map, but she passed away before she did; i have no doubt other locals of an age could find it, if asked. Tajique is truly the Old West
Love your story telling they are very fascinating to hear.
Actually, there is one more piece to this amazing case... In 1986 the Georgia Board of Pardons and Paroles pardoned Leo Frank. The application to the Board did not seek his absolution for the murder of Mary Phagan (that application had been attempted in 1983 after Alonzo Mann came forward with his story, but failed because the Board could not decide conclusively Frank's guilt or innocence), but rather it asked the State to admit to their culpability in Leo Frank's death. The Board found that Leo Frank's constitutional rights had been denied by the State because it had failed to ensure Frank's safety while he was incarcerated.
Leo Frank evaded justice when the governor pardoned him. I'm glad he finally saw good ol' southern-style justice.
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Good old racism, anti-Semitism, and lynching Southern style. Get stuffed.
Why did they pardon Frank? He was convicted and all of his appeals were rejected. Frank was guilty, and regardless of what the Anti Defecation League says, nothing changes all the facts of the case.
@@user-xc6wd3hb4s The facts of the case clearly show he was innocent. The Governor commuted his sentence for precisely that reason.
Always nice to see a new vid from you. It would be hard to pin point who was responsible for Marys murder. I feel many innocent 'suspects' died in the early days of police work.
So sad RIP Mary & Thanks Ronâ€
Thanks for posting this. I love in Metro Atlanta and have been to this cemetery many times. I never heard this story.
What a sad story thanks for the video and information!
Poor little girl. đą when I was 13, I collected trolls and lipgloss. I liked pop music. I went to school. I had my own room. I am very blessed.
This is a sad story any way you look at it...what amazes me is how committing crimes behind the shield of racism excuse horrific behavior ....... it seems like even today it's out of the ordinary for these creeps to be convicted or held accountable. I can see the janitor defecating in the basement because all of the bathroom facilities in that huge building were for whites only and they sure weren't going to build a bathroom for one black man....I think the man could have used a trash can so it could be disposed off daily or weekly. Too many variables for me to guess the culprit.
There was a "colored" bathroom in the basement and there were several black men that worked there with Jim Conley. Newt Lee, the night watchman and Alonzo Mann, another janitor, who are named in this story and other written accounts are 2 of them. Jim Conley was a deviant criminal and all the real evidence and testimony of others points to him as the murderer.
RIP Mary . Another very sad story against a child . Thank you for sharing .
Poor little Mary and her family. Even people who have never met her, feel saddened. These feelings of sadness arise double when someone is murdered. How disgusting. Life is so precious.
What also sickens me is lynching. No one has the right to take another's life. Bloodthirsty people who just want drama to try quench their own thirst for blood, "playing" God, turns my stomach. They are not lovers of TRUTH or FACTS. Still today, there are too many of this sort who too quickly point out a culprit not BASED on actual facts.
Thank you Ron for pointing out this sad, sad case where one awful thing followed another. Too bad forensics back then where not what they are today.
Keep up your good work. I love watching your videos.
Keep safe đč
Thank you for doing these vids, and Im sure if these lost souls could thank you as well they would. You bring their lives back to reality even if its for just a short time, and for that I, and they thank you.
Very sad may Mary r.i.p she was to young to die. This is a wild story and anything could went wrong. A tough one to figure out. A shame it happen to Mary. Well done story Sir very interesting and I am thinking this over. Have a Wonderful Day Sir and to The Gang!â€đșđž
Really interesting story Ron and thanks for sharing .
What a precious child .RIP Sweet angel đ đ. Thanks for sharing this story Ron. â€.
What very sad story , we sometimes donât know how lucky đ we are to live in this age⊠I surprised they didnât do some kind of handwriting analysis đ§ at the time and got a sample of all the suspects writing âïž. Beautifully narrated as always with a lot of respect towards the victim and family. Best Wishes from Virginia!!! L Gracie đ„°
thank you sir for the story. It is so hard for me to decide who did this crime but, we are thankful that you kept on saying/ mentioning her name. hoping that she will be granted with eternal peace as we go through the tract she left behind.
Thank you for the story..When I lived in Acworth, Ga. I went with a dear friend to visit the grave of Mary Phagan..Such a tragic death..This story has haunted me for years after first hearing of Mary's death..I live in Pickens, S.C now.. Thank you again!đč
Ron I love your channel and thank you so much âșïž
Ron, Have you thought of doing an episode on the firefighters that lost their lives fighting the Cold Storage Fire at the Chicago Colombian Worlds Fair 1893? That would be an amazing story. Love your work! Best to you and yours, Marc
I will keep in mind...sooo may stories! ty
So sad. Children had such sad lives in that era(poor children anyway) not much childhood. My maternal grandmother had to pick cotton as a child. Impeccable narration as usual. Thank you.
Kim my Mother was born in 1921 and I remember she use to pick cotton for "one penny a pound". When the cotton seed opens there are hard shard objects on the bloom (for the lack of knowledge the correct term) but Mother used to have to wear heavy tape on her fingers to keep getting pricked and bleeding.
@@lindagordon2977 yes you are correct on that information! Their cuticles would bleed & can you imagine how sore they would be all the time! My greatest respect & love for all souls who had to do that!
My paternal Grandma was born in 1906 on a farm in rural Rock County, WI. In a time when most families had many kids, she was an only child. They weren't wealthy, but comfortable and she was able to go to school through high school. Her family even had a Model A Ford when they first became available. She was very fortunate. Her biggest complaint was that the boys would put burdocks in her long hair on the walk to school to pick on her.
Such a different childhood than Mary and so many children experience in that era.
When I was a kid growing up on a working grain/livestock farm I had to do all manner of work that I was able. Not sure where people today get the idea that children learning responsibility and work ethic is some form of child abuse.
Bless her heart that was so sad. You tell the story's so well Ron when i get notifications about your video's i always press save till later for when im in my bed. Its usually dark anyway because of the timings.
R.I.P Mary Phagan much respect Ron. đđâ€đđđđđđ
Continued safe travels my friend!! You do a great job on these!!
What a great and interesting story teller. Thatâs so sad!! đđđ» rip
and Thank you!!
I think Leo Frank did it and got Connelly to help him cover it up
Very interesting possibility!
Why wasn't Conley/Connelly charged as an accomplice?
@@amysbees6686 he was doing the bidding of a White person . For him to disobey was in itself an offense
I remember reading this story in a book my dad had years ago about 20th Century true crimes,along with the Leopold/Loeb case you covered awhile back..