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  • čas přidán 29. 03. 2024
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  • @onldhes
    @onldhes Před 2 měsíci +643

    Man, I would kill for a relatively modern laptop with a form factor like that.

    • @J.Wick.
      @J.Wick. Před 2 měsíci +77

      Same. I wish there were more netbooks available today like there were then. Low watt CPUs have come a LONG way.

    • @alexcrouse
      @alexcrouse Před 2 měsíci +63

      Modern low power CPUs are actually impressive, and with M.2, it would be SO easy to go that size.

    • @magfal
      @magfal Před 2 měsíci +59

      Flood GPD's contact channels.

    • @alexcrouse
      @alexcrouse Před 2 měsíci +18

      @@magfal they make toys, not useful machines.

    • @onometre
      @onometre Před 2 měsíci +42

      ​@@alexcrouseno? They have the consoles for sure but they also have proper netbooks

  • @The.Orchard
    @The.Orchard Před 2 měsíci +102

    I want a tiny orange laptop now. Not because it's useful or even usable, but it looks cool. Plus nobody would attempt to steal it.

    • @quequien2002
      @quequien2002 Před 2 měsíci +24

      yeah... nobody... at all... like never... ever...why are you lookng at me like that?

    • @carlosrojas8157
      @carlosrojas8157 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Orange
      😂🤣😂

  • @anthologyofinterest1
    @anthologyofinterest1 Před 2 měsíci +412

    All the algo knew was that you were on a weird version of Linux, and it figured mail order brides were appropriate

    • @lillywho
      @lillywho Před 2 měsíci +72

      "You're sniffing network traffic? Wanna do some human trafficking??"

    • @kintustis
      @kintustis Před 2 měsíci +47

      Average Linux user demographic

    • @commentarysheep
      @commentarysheep Před 2 měsíci

      He made the mistake of choosing an out-of-support Ubuntu base. You should at least run a 22.04 base, of which is available on the Puppy Linux website.

    • @nyanpasu64
      @nyanpasu64 Před 2 měsíci +21

      hi hans reiser

    • @TFSned
      @TFSned Před 2 měsíci +29

      I ordered singles from overseas.
      I got 64 slices of American cheese.

  • @finkelmana
    @finkelmana Před 2 měsíci +160

    The biggest issue with older Intel Atom based netbooks, even if they are 64 bit, is the 2GB of RAM limit. Yes, you can do *basic* computer tasks. However, as soon as you open a modern browser and go to modern website you will exceed 2GB of RAM in an instant. You will be swapping nonstop. Linux is great, but it cant work miracles.

    • @LeftoverBeefcake
      @LeftoverBeefcake Před 2 měsíci +22

      Also the screen size on a lot of netbooks is fairly non-standard at 1024x600, so many times buttons and other stuff will get cut off if they're at the bottom of a dialog box for example. Linux will allow you to drag windows around with a keyboard shortcut but it gets old real quick.

    • @finkelmana
      @finkelmana Před 2 měsíci +11

      ​@@LeftoverBeefcake Thats 100% correct. Linux distros require a minimum of 720 pixels in height in their installers. I have installed several Linux distros on my Asus EEE PC and the only way I could was by knowing/guessing how many times I needed to hit tab to continue.

    • @ps5hasnogames55
      @ps5hasnogames55 Před 2 měsíci +15

      @@finkelmanaWhat distro requires 720px height? Debian's graphical installer to this day runs in 800x600 and also offers a standard CLI compatible with everything. You're talking nonsense.

    • @absalomdraconis
      @absalomdraconis Před 2 měsíci +5

      ​@@ps5hasnogames55: I'd suspect it was a defect in the installer, failing to correctly determine the actual resolution (maybe or maybe not because of hardware shenanigans).

    • @finkelmana
      @finkelmana Před 2 měsíci +5

      @@ps5hasnogames55 Why would someone else mention it and I agreed. We *BOTH* experienced it. Me many times. Oh and I just looked up three different distros. Oh look all three have on their websites minimum resolution requirements is 1024 x 768. I will say I did look up one more, Fedora, which is 800x600. Still, most modern distros require 1025x768. I will accept your apology now.

  • @Francois_L_7933
    @Francois_L_7933 Před 2 měsíci +200

    I'm glad to see Puppy Linux getting some love 😊
    The reason why they opted to run everything as root is that the Puppy Linux filesystem is essentially not writable. Every change gets sent to the work file or folder. So even if some attackers were to get in the system, they wouldn't be able to severely modify the core. Weird, I know...

    • @master74200
      @master74200 Před 2 měsíci +8

      Being persistent like that is usually not too big a concern for most of the malware actively being spread anyway.

    • @Forrest_O.
      @Forrest_O. Před 2 měsíci +3

      This must be the same as Debian.

    • @AndrewClement
      @AndrewClement Před 2 měsíci +3

      ​​@@Forrest_O. Puppy is Debian based. If that is what you mean

    • @kensmith5694
      @kensmith5694 Před 2 měsíci +18

      @@AndrewClement Not all Puppies are Debian based. People have done it to other distros. Basically it is a process of shrinking the OS down to what is needed and making the boot process do the layered file system

    • @AndrewClement
      @AndrewClement Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@kensmith5694 I didn't know that. Thank you!

  • @clashblaster
    @clashblaster Před 2 měsíci +22

    Puppy Linux was the first Linux distro I tried as a teenager, because it was one of the few distros that would fit on a single CD-ROM to live boot from.

  • @2112st
    @2112st Před 2 měsíci +53

    As a writer, I'm instantly thinking PORTABLE TYPEWRITER!!!!! That size is all sorts of awesome. All I need is a word processor and I'm good to go. I don't care if I have anything else on it. (See you at VCF East, Sean! :) )

    • @freeculture
      @freeculture Před 2 měsíci +5

      Of course, put antiX and launch abiword and you are good to go 🙂 You could even go pure CLI for the full typewriter focus experience, the Jed text editor even emulates classic editors like wordstar. I think Dell also had a netbook class with an incredibly pleasant keyboard in a form factor very similar to this Vaio. Perhaps you could use something ARM or RISC-V based to give you a lot of battery time.

    • @mashappeal
      @mashappeal Před 2 měsíci +1

      Get an alphasmart neo2. Portable word processor, keyboard is super satisfying, and it can literally only write.

    • @tayfuntuna
      @tayfuntuna Před 2 měsíci +2

      I own it and I used it exactly for that use case for years.

    • @notamoonraker
      @notamoonraker Před 9 dny

      You can consider buying modern netbook like Asus E410MA

    • @notamoonraker
      @notamoonraker Před 9 dny

      Whoops I mean Asus E210MA

  • @kennyamaya7407
    @kennyamaya7407 Před 2 měsíci +105

    11:15 That sponsored ad on the top right of the webpage though.. 😂😂

    • @atemoc
      @atemoc Před 2 měsíci +32

      Least inappropriate CZcams ad:

    • @RoryRabbitMonkey
      @RoryRabbitMonkey Před 2 měsíci +4

      LMAFO

    • @charliesretrocomputing
      @charliesretrocomputing Před 2 měsíci

      frrrr! I have personalized ads off so I get those "lgbt gay test" ads and "hot singles nearby" ads when I turn off my ad blocker 💀@@atemoc

    • @AaronOfMpls
      @AaronOfMpls Před 2 měsíci

      omg... I was so focused on the TDNC video, I didn't even _notice_ what ad was showing up there! 😆

  • @RyanMercer
    @RyanMercer Před 2 měsíci +147

    Ooooh international orange

    • @palololol
      @palololol Před 2 měsíci +10

      Prison jumpsuit orange*

    • @Sepoipaping
      @Sepoipaping Před 2 měsíci +4

      Organic Carrot orange*

  • @SL4RK
    @SL4RK Před 2 měsíci +29

    This device was ahead of its time,
    if only Sony had re-released it with the current amd ryzen processor.

    • @SilverSpoon_
      @SilverSpoon_ Před 2 měsíci +1

      it's possible, but no one have the batteries or thermal design to support such a thing.

    • @TheSliderW
      @TheSliderW Před 2 měsíci +1

      Agreed.
      Has anyone tried stuffing a broken phone or tablet into an old laptop case and running adapters for the peripherals ?

    • @AaronOfMpls
      @AaronOfMpls Před 2 měsíci +2

      Heck, with even lower-end modern smartphone hardware, you could make a useable netbook in this form factor.

    • @fikriarieska8450
      @fikriarieska8450 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@SilverSpoon_might as well put some arm chips on it

  • @RogerioPereiradaSilva77
    @RogerioPereiradaSilva77 Před 2 měsíci +49

    You could install AntiX instead which IMHO is Puppy Linux done right without the root thing and the dependency on those pets packages to get anything done. AntiX is paired down like Puppy but works like regular Debian.

    • @patpopov
      @patpopov Před 2 měsíci +9

      AntiX is a good shout. Damn Small Linux 2024 is based on AntiX but is a damn sight smaller. I would try Void or Alpine personally.

    • @freeculture
      @freeculture Před 2 měsíci +5

      Correct, it baffles me he went with Puppy when antiX was made for this... Puppy should be for running from usb with persistence but not actually installed.

    • @JawadKhan-qn3lp
      @JawadKhan-qn3lp Před 2 měsíci

      whats the user experience like for antiX in ur experience? wondering if its worth messing around with

    • @RogerioPereiradaSilva77
      @RogerioPereiradaSilva77 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@JawadKhan-qn3lp I'd say that it is superb but it really depends on what you expect from using a computer. Due to the constrained resources so that it can run on really old and under powered hardware, there are no full featured desktop environments such as GNOME, KDE or even XFCE or bloated applications such as LibreOffice or Firefox by default. Everything is very scaled down so that it could theoretically run on a P2 with 128 MB of RAM.
      But if you know Puppy then it is essentially the same thing. Same application set, same choices of desktop managers, file managers, etc.

    • @ozlo
      @ozlo Před měsícem

      AntiX is definitely the way to go if you have an older cpu and limited memory.

  • @metallurgico
    @metallurgico Před 2 měsíci +11

    It looks so modern yet so retro. Tecnology never went ahead since early 2000.

    • @krono9451
      @krono9451 Před 2 měsíci

      What...

    • @linusgoblin
      @linusgoblin Před 2 měsíci +1

      Sony vaios have a slick design. Too bad they don't make em anymore.

  • @dv_dream
    @dv_dream Před 2 měsíci +45

    i love orange

  • @tschak909
    @tschak909 Před 2 měsíci +30

    To this day, after doing bring-up on custom hardware, the GMA500 still gives me stomach pains. This was from when Intel was pushing their half baked "low power" chipsets into devices, and boy was it horrible to bring up.

    • @qwertyface
      @qwertyface Před 2 měsíci +9

      I too groaned when I heard GMA500. I had a netbook with a similar chipset. AFAIK the GMA500 never got much more than basic support in Linux. I imagine this would have performed better if it had the N270 (or whatever it was) that had real Intel graphics.

    • @alexandrecouture2462
      @alexandrecouture2462 Před 2 měsíci +6

      If I remember well, the GMA500 was called Poulsbo in Linux drivers and was based on an old PowerVR. (correct me if I'm wrong, but I had an old Asus EEE PC X101CH with this ''gpu'')

    • @tschak909
      @tschak909 Před 2 měsíci +7

      @@alexandrecouture2462 correct. This whole chipset was cursed.

  • @torondin
    @torondin Před 2 měsíci +32

    Good ol' Puppy Linux. Used to be really into it back in the day, perhaps I'd look at running it if I ever find a cheap netbook somewhere.

    • @harleyn3089
      @harleyn3089 Před 2 měsíci +3

      I had Puppy Linux on a Dell Mini 9 netbook, but decided it was a bit of a nuisance, so switched to Debian 12 LXQT instead.
      Puppy Linux is fun as an experiment, but for actual use I find it really quirky.

    • @fikriarieska8450
      @fikriarieska8450 Před 2 měsíci

      Get one that's macboook stlgle like how did with tube batt pack

  • @ruslangbl3562
    @ruslangbl3562 Před 2 měsíci +6

    when i worked as industrial electronics engineer on a big plant(2011-2014) my colleagues had a useless thin client with atom n270/1gb ram and no hdd/ssd. I installed puppy linux on a 2gb USB-Flash drive and thin client become from useless to usable:) Even 3g modem worked. It was a good machine for browsing internet and reading pdf documentation. Also we had a possibility to watch some movies or sitcom series at our lunch brake.

    • @Yarko007
      @Yarko007 Před 2 měsíci

      i have the same pc. It runs half-life 1, gta VC and can play dvd or downloaded videos up to 480p, runs OpenOffice or something lighter, you can read or write books. Verdict - still useful for some tasks, even in 2024.

  • @yihanzhang2094
    @yihanzhang2094 Před 2 měsíci +8

    This is exactly how I got into Linux. A vaio was used on my family TV to play videos and teenager me tried to boot Linux on it. :3

  • @MegaTerryNutkins
    @MegaTerryNutkins Před 2 měsíci +8

    Puppy is still my favourite truly mini distro, many years ago it turned a Celeron 450mhz Lifebook B series with 192mb ram into a capable modern laptop that went everywhere with me with a PCMCIA wifi card plugged in.

  • @battoisoutto6657
    @battoisoutto6657 Před 2 měsíci +10

    I remember puppy linux fondly. Used to use it for school work as carrying around a 2gb flash drive and just plugging into school computers meant I got to keep my work, as well as not be restricted by the schools website blocker. It was incredibly fast on those windows 2000 optiplexs.

    • @edcdad1124
      @edcdad1124 Před 2 měsíci +2

      We use to just make admin accounts lol but dang wish I thought of a bootablr linux drive in the early 2000's for HS

    • @alexisverity47
      @alexisverity47 Před 2 měsíci +1

      was doing this in the mid 2010s,sysadmins never learn huh

  • @ThisDoesNotCompute
    @ThisDoesNotCompute Před 2 měsíci +5

    awful tiny laptops are AWESOME

  • @rmcellig
    @rmcellig Před 2 měsíci +5

    Puppy Linux is my goto distro on all of my computers. Love it!!!!

  • @idk-sy3iu
    @idk-sy3iu Před 2 měsíci +90

    Everything running as root 💀💀💀

    • @red13emerald
      @red13emerald Před 2 měsíci +28

      i think they're doing that because any changes will be deleted anyway when you reboot, unless you explicitly save them. And having a default user to the RAM disk is exactly as safe as running everything as root from an infosec perspective.

    • @andrey8688
      @andrey8688 Před 20 dny +1

      With power comes responsibility! ;)

    • @darksteelmind
      @darksteelmind Před 4 dny +1

      Most Puppy files and installed software are in a special folder, anything else in the root is read-only and the system runs in ram, so Puppy is one of the safest distros out there.

  • @theburntcrumpet8371
    @theburntcrumpet8371 Před 2 měsíci +9

    12 year old me would have given up all his pocket money for life for ever for one of these

  • @xgf122
    @xgf122 Před 2 měsíci +13

    Funny in 2009/2010 I could still watch CZcams on our old family PC with Duron 1600 and 768MB DDR1 memory + Nvdia TNT2 64MB agp version , besides my then perfectly fine Athlon X2 build with 4GB DDR2 and Rd. HD 3870 512MB GDDR4 GPU, although up to only 720p (you needed at least HD 4850 1GB or HD 5770 with 1GB GDDR5 for smooth 1080p in 2010). Time flies fast indeed...

    • @user-sd3ik9rt6d
      @user-sd3ik9rt6d Před 2 měsíci +11

      The tubes have changed their encoding methods, a bit less data but a whole lot more CPU horsepower needed to decide.

    • @LeftoverBeefcake
      @LeftoverBeefcake Před 2 měsíci +6

      Sure, but you also have to remember back then you were limited to 10 minutes (or less) videos at less than 720p resolution and you needed the Flash Player to watch anything. I used to love Flash when it was a nice lightweight delivery vehicle for animations and stuff, before Adobe bought it and bloated the heck out of it. :(

    • @xgf122
      @xgf122 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@LeftoverBeefcake yes I remember, also in 2010 1080p became pretty much standard here. In 2012 they fully migrated from Flashplayer to HTML5

    • @LeftoverBeefcake
      @LeftoverBeefcake Před 2 měsíci

      @@xgf122 Yes, you're right... I was trying to remember what video camera I was using back then... I think I had a Canon that used both VHS-C and SD-cards but didn't handle hi-def video, so I couldn't join the hi-def revolution yet. :P

    • @Pasi123
      @Pasi123 Před 2 měsíci +5

      @@xgf122 They still hadn't fully migrated from Flash to HTML5 in 2012-2013. Back then only some videos were available as HTML5 while a lot were Flash only. This was a bit of a problem on Athlon XP's which didn't have SSE2 but Flash Player on Linux started requiring SSE2 in 2012
      My Intel Atom N270 (GMA 950) netbook ran 480p CZcams without any problems back in the day. And locally on VLC etc. it could (and still can) play 720p videos without dropping frames

  • @andresbravo2003
    @andresbravo2003 Před 2 měsíci +10

    This is neat, quite cool to run Linux on a Vaio notebook.

  • @MegaManNeo
    @MegaManNeo Před 2 měsíci +4

    As a fan of netbooks ever since, I am drooling for this thing!
    Puppy Linux was a fun experience to me too.

  • @FreeFireFull
    @FreeFireFull Před 2 měsíci +5

    I expect Haiku will actually run better than Puppy Linux. Haiku still supports running even on a Pentium II (although it recommends at least a Pentium 4)

  • @ditto125
    @ditto125 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I more or less daily drive one of these in hot pink with antix linux. Mostly as a terminal client, but also use it to remote into a linux computer I have at home where I do my heavy lifting. Cool little machines, but the performance has always been bad. If only Sony would remake it in an ARM variant.

  • @bernieman9016
    @bernieman9016 Před 2 měsíci +3

    For the graphics to work properly you need a special graphics driver. The graphics capability in the chipset was licensed and not made by Intel so required a special closed source Poulsbo driver. Some versions of Ubuntu at the time incorporated this blob. It allows smooth video playback at 720p but doesnt help much with games. Intel used to also supply a Linux driver from its website

    • @JawadKhan-qn3lp
      @JawadKhan-qn3lp Před 2 měsíci +1

      yo any idea about where to find more info on the driver? i looked on the arch wiki and did a quick google search but no dice :/

    • @bernieman9016
      @bernieman9016 Před 9 dny

      @@JawadKhan-qn3lp Google Ubuntu Poulsbo GMA500 distro. Had tried to reply with some URLs a couple times but CZcams seems to automatically delete replies with URLs in them

  • @JK-xz1lt
    @JK-xz1lt Před 2 měsíci +2

    That little PC is so cute. I really wanted, and still want one. Especially the green one. Sony needs to release an updated model for fun. I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Great video.

  • @heres_the_sauce
    @heres_the_sauce Před 28 dny +1

    Dude I remember this small laptop craze. It was like netbooks and stuff, super cool I wanted one so bad for coding and stuff in college.

  • @SonicBoone56
    @SonicBoone56 Před 2 měsíci +19

    Finally a video about Puppy Linux. Perfect Linux for old people with old computers.

    • @zombie_pigdragon
      @zombie_pigdragon Před 2 měsíci +4

      (I haven't used Puppy but) Wouldn't the stuff like "save session to folder or file" lead to problems for older and non-technical users? Also, though it isn't as big a deal as one might expect, I'm not sure if giving old people root is the best move...

    • @freeculture
      @freeculture Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@zombie_pigdragon its the wrong choice, a proper distro like antiX would do much better for old PCs.

  • @trains4ourkids
    @trains4ourkids Před 2 měsíci +3

    Would love to see something like this redone with a modern ARM board.

  • @brendamobley
    @brendamobley Před 2 měsíci

    This is totally giving me ideas for an old old netbook I have
    Thank you

  • @ahumeniy
    @ahumeniy Před 2 měsíci +1

    I was rocking a ThinkPad T41 in 2008 when I was in college. Man, that thing was running circles around more modern laptops once I installed Puppy Linux on it.

  • @kellybmackenzie
    @kellybmackenzie Před 10 dny

    I adore Puppy so much! I have a tiny laptop from a Brazilian brand named Positivo, a MOBO S7, and it's almost as tiny as the one you showed in this video. Intel Atom processor, 2GB ram, 32GB SD card. It also came with Windows 7, but I put Puppy Linux on it and it runs better than I expected, I love it! I had low expectations, but it runs great! Boddhi Linux also runs really nicely on it too! I adore tiny computers, they have an unique charm to them!

  • @GaryBeltz
    @GaryBeltz Před 2 měsíci +27

    So if the puppies are making Linux, then what are the kitties doing? 😂

  • @Jdbye
    @Jdbye Před 2 měsíci +3

    I love that color. If Vaios weren't so expensive I would've been all over this back in the day. It's specced like a netbook, but it definitely wasn't priced like one.
    I had an Eee PC I was quite happy with, but the major drawback was the screen resolution (mine was the 7" model so it was only 800x480, many things wouldn't even fit without scaling tricks) so this would've been significantly better in that aspect.

    • @freeculture
      @freeculture Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yes that's the Asus 701 eeepc which i still have. But its a good workhorse because of its actual physical RJ45 plug and Linux supported Atheros wifi. antiX still runs great in it.

    • @fikriarieska8450
      @fikriarieska8450 Před 2 měsíci

      My place used to sell blank vaios
      Just the LCD and case and batt
      Too bad didnt snag one back then (was 50 bucks back then cuz it's so frickin cool form)

  • @ExperimentIV
    @ExperimentIV Před 2 měsíci +1

    god i always wanted one of these just for the form factor. would still love one today for typing stuff on using a reasonably usable OS

  • @KTDFox
    @KTDFox Před 2 měsíci +2

    Great aesthetic at least. I want it for the color.

  • @quequien2002
    @quequien2002 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I have seen a lot of post of people hungry for a distraction free writing device. this seems the best alternative i have ever seen so far, also that orange is so sexy. man, with the current tech and the right price i think i would love something so funtional and portable

  • @davidbowne122
    @davidbowne122 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Fun video, love the puppy linux idea.

  • @GearSeekers
    @GearSeekers Před 2 měsíci +1

    I used to repurpose a lot of old Wyse thin clients by putting Puppy Linux on them. Such a cool little Distro.

  • @eduardoavila646
    @eduardoavila646 Před 2 měsíci +1

    For youtube playback on older hardware that doesn't have the VP8/VP9 or AVC1 decoders, try forcing the old h264 codec on your browser using something like the h264ify extention, it helped me alot go through university with a tired core2duo laptop

  • @AKSoapy29
    @AKSoapy29 Před 2 měsíci +1

    This would be super cool is the screen opened the way it does, but then folds flat onto the keyboard so you have a touchscreen and maybe joysticks, then build in cellular for on the go use. Would be an awesome pocket computer. I love the color too!

  • @mr.pumpkin8891
    @mr.pumpkin8891 Před 2 měsíci +2

    i think with the technology of today, with all these portable windows gaming machines coming out every other month, some company can release one of these computers and being very functional for modern use

  • @ChudDin
    @ChudDin Před 2 měsíci

    This exact laptop with upgraded internals, smaller bezels & a slightly taller screen. NEED!

  • @mohamad20zx34
    @mohamad20zx34 Před 2 měsíci

    Wow Action Retro this Puppy Linux video is Amazing It's really good to see you use such a masterpiece of Lightweight Distros hope you can Try Antic because its also Very lightweight And Its Supports installing form the Hard drive too

  • @rbrookstx
    @rbrookstx Před 2 měsíci +1

    What I wouldn’t give for a modern version of this. Such an amazing form factor.

  • @sjukfan
    @sjukfan Před 2 měsíci +1

    I've always liked the form factor of the Vaio. Something similar to that but not underpowered would be nice for a write/surf/media computer. I don't really need a full computer for that, but preferably something more than a mobile phone or a tablet. And I need a pretty good keyboard. Today I use a Gemini PDA but I'd like it to be a little bit bigger.

  • @FuseboxEllen
    @FuseboxEllen Před 2 měsíci

    A lot of my experience with Puppy Linux was back in the netbook days, running it on an Eee 901 after trying out things like Moblin, Ubuntu Netbook Edition, and so on.
    I love so many of the designs from Sony's VAIO line, but just because they could design and build it doesn't mean they should.

  • @Omegapork
    @Omegapork Před 2 měsíci +2

    This device's form factor would be INCREDBILE with a modern low-wattage APU like what's in the Steam Deck!

    • @JawadKhan-qn3lp
      @JawadKhan-qn3lp Před 2 měsíci

      would be a literal dream come true. hope gdp or MNT or some other manufacturer is taking notes...

  • @steven1000000000
    @steven1000000000 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Give Antix a try - It's also uses about +- 200Mb RAM on boot and most of the applications arevery lightweight. Alternatively, a new version of DSL (Dam small linux) was recently released, which might give it a bit more juice.

    • @JawadKhan-qn3lp
      @JawadKhan-qn3lp Před 2 měsíci +1

      yeah other commentors said that too, would be pretty cool to see!

  • @kovalsky117
    @kovalsky117 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Still have mine. Best form factor (for a laptop) I've ever owned. If only the performance had been there. Would kill for a comeback with modern hardware (and an ultrawide “retina” display).

  • @vladislavkaras491
    @vladislavkaras491 Před 2 měsíci

    Well, that an interesting design, that I would actually love to use today!
    Thanks for the video!

  • @Lilithe
    @Lilithe Před 2 měsíci +2

    In Firefox I like to use h264ify to play CZcams videos on my old Mouse laptop from Japan. It helps heaps with older GPUs that can't grok h265!

  • @matthewdropco
    @matthewdropco Před 2 měsíci

    Yay! Puppy Linux! I’ve still been thinking about trying to install it again, but portable on a jump drive like my old professor from back in college.

  • @CrassSpektakel
    @CrassSpektakel Před 2 měsíci +1

    Btw, watching CZcams works perfectly in VLC even on a Atom N270 with half the power of the Z560. You have to install a CZcams-Plugin in VLC and advice your browser to open videos in VLC. Using that even today to watch CZcams on my N270, at least up to 720p. As the EEE901 only has a 600p screen I usually use 480p and safe some battery. With my HUGE replacement battery my old EEE901 is able to run videos for around eight hours.

  • @doriphor
    @doriphor Před 2 měsíci +1

    I just bought myself an i5 DELL Optiplex (used from 2015 or 16) for all my TV Streaming and gaming needs and I'm so happy with it. Installed Ubuntu on it, upgraded the ram to 16GB and it all cost me $100. I wish they still made these pocket-sized laptops I'd love to have a cheap tiny Linux PC for when I'm on the go!

    • @JawadKhan-qn3lp
      @JawadKhan-qn3lp Před 2 měsíci +1

      this is how we get the year of the linux desktop... slowly and with old hardware!

  • @ST-RTheProtogen
    @ST-RTheProtogen Před 2 měsíci +4

    I put puppy on an old Acer U123 (1ghz atom, 2gb RAM, and a mechanical drive,) and it ran flawlessly. The ui isn't my favorite and the run-in-RAM system was annoying, but boy does that OS run on anything!

    • @Pasi123
      @Pasi123 Před 2 měsíci

      The slowest thing I've used Puppy on was a Pentium 133MHz with 64MB RAM in the late 2000s

  • @blinddog1212
    @blinddog1212 Před 2 měsíci

    Very nice! Fascinated by this era of tiny computer/netbook/laptop hybrids. Can you do something on the Asus T100?

  • @codeman99-dev
    @codeman99-dev Před 2 měsíci

    I used Puppy Linux when it *was* a standalone distro. What made it a win for me was the ability to use a CD to boot into RAM, and load installed applications from an external drive. So I got the most out of the limited storage *and* the experience wasn't much different than a boot-drive install.
    The big downside was the use of the busybox core utils. Busybox has many uses, but not in a userland daily driver environment.

  • @AndrewClement
    @AndrewClement Před 2 měsíci +1

    I used puppy Linux so much during the day.
    Used it on my family's old PC that came with Windows ME

  • @vitaminjuk
    @vitaminjuk Před 2 měsíci +1

    I just ebayed one of those a couple of weeks ago! Looking to maybe swap out the guts with something more powerful. But I did put a vanilla Win10 on it to start with too, and the trackpoint worked straight away with no drivers, so I'd be worried you might have a hardware fault on yours?

  • @lesterjargus5311
    @lesterjargus5311 Před 2 měsíci

    I've been using Puppy Linux since 2007, still using it today. In fact, Bionic Pup is the version I have and use the most currently.

  • @gamereditor59ner22
    @gamereditor59ner22 Před měsícem +1

    Man! This is awesome!
    Edit: Can a old laptop turn into type 1 hypervisor OS (Qubes OS)?

  • @Sb129
    @Sb129 Před 2 měsíci

    From the time I first saw these in Fry's Electronics on display I've wanted one.

  • @zandermcnabb7779
    @zandermcnabb7779 Před 2 měsíci

    Another good Linux distro that I used for older PCs is Porteus Linux, it's between 250 and 750 MB with modules you drop in folders, it's super lite and I've been using it since 2015, it's good for REALLY old PCs

  • @Saturn-OS
    @Saturn-OS Před 2 měsíci +1

    Aww the Sony VAIO is so smol and cute. Would love to see that computer remade I know it be made even better since we have better stuff now.

  • @HungryManticore
    @HungryManticore Před 2 měsíci

    Happy Easter Sean!

  • @haskellelephant
    @haskellelephant Před 2 měsíci

    Hey! I suggested trying to get some old Linux on the Toshiba a while back, and must admit, this was more interesting than what I had in mind 😅.
    For classic cube, did you try passing the `-march=native`? Not sure about the x86 extensions available for this line of processors, but it could help.

  • @trevorford8332
    @trevorford8332 Před 2 měsíci +1

    That's my go-to OS, for old hardware.

  • @joshuamacdonald4913
    @joshuamacdonald4913 Před měsícem

    This is why I use mint mate. under a gig of ram usage at idle. I first downloaded it for an old netbook. Ran faster then it ever have before. But this is totally worth looking into

  • @intheprettypink
    @intheprettypink Před 2 měsíci

    I have the pink version with the alligator skin on the back (yes, a top shell molded to look like alligator skin), and it makes for a pretty good low power linux server. Its currently my domain controller and pihole DNS provider.

  • @DonPancho1
    @DonPancho1 Před měsícem

    I havent seen anyone talk about puppy linux in years, this is cool!

  • @telmo_a
    @telmo_a Před 2 měsíci

    This could be a very usable machine for writing. In Shut Up & Write meetings, I often see people who prefer to handwrite on a notebook and, later, type their stuff into electronic form. A laptop with this form factor would be very practical to carry around with a notebook.

    • @markm0000
      @markm0000 Před 2 měsíci +1

      In theory yes, in practice no. The keyboard is still too cramped to type fast on.

  • @Auugh69
    @Auugh69 Před 2 měsíci

    yay i love puppy linux!! i was amazed it still runs on a old pentium 3 computer

  • @veronicathecow
    @veronicathecow Před 2 měsíci

    Love puppy linux. Great for smaller or older machines

  • @MishraArtificer
    @MishraArtificer Před 2 měsíci

    I got Puppy running on an ancient IBM Thinkpad T41, and everything functions except for not being able to figure out how to download video drivers onto the thing. The drivers for the old ATI Mobility Radeon chip do apparently exist, though!

  • @Bleats_Sinodai
    @Bleats_Sinodai Před 2 měsíci

    My all time favourite version of Puppy Linux was Puppi for the Raspberry Pi. Fast, capable, and the interface looked great! Too bad it was abandoned and there's no working backups anywhere.

  • @appsaucetech
    @appsaucetech Před 2 měsíci

    I actually have a similar chromebook which I installed manjaro mate and it is extremely usable without any screen tearing

  • @ubacow7109
    @ubacow7109 Před 2 měsíci

    im so glad so many tech channels are talking about how good old Vaio laptops and design was. Vaio needs to make a major comeback imo

  • @crashmatrix
    @crashmatrix Před 2 měsíci +2

    Extremely expensive and woefully underpowered, that used to be a calling card for some of the VAIO line. A buddy of mine through his work got his hands on a very fancy and cool looking PCG-C1VN. While the Transmeta Crusoe CPU is pretty cool from a tech perspective, the system was chugtastic in real life. Still, they're just so cute 'n cool with the swivel webcam on the top. I guess the P series you've got here is like a spiritual successor, the formfactor looks basically the same.

  • @CaioTechLabs
    @CaioTechLabs Před 2 měsíci

    This device would be great for focused writing, for checklists and very basic text-focused things. Using Linux and with automatic file synchronization with Dropbox, for example, I just don't know what its keyboard is like.

  • @kensmith5694
    @kensmith5694 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I have an EEPC701 with puppy-528 on it. Last I used it, it was entirely usable even with its 900MHz CPU.
    The EEPC701 came with a VGA connector and I could watch youtube videos on it well enough.
    The downfall was that I couldn't get newer browsers to work on it and eventually it became impossible to watch cat videos.
    BTW: Puppy works nice from an external 1T USB drive and you can shut off the loading into memory. This can result in a system that is slow but not too bad that also has absolutely everything you need on it.

    • @BilisNegra
      @BilisNegra Před 2 měsíci

      You really must have used it at the very least a decade ago, probably more, as modern CZcams is unusable on a superior CPU as shown here... You could play YT videos at like 360 or maybe even 480p on an old Atom in the early 2010s. Not anymore, of course.

    • @kensmith5694
      @kensmith5694 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@BilisNegra I think the EEPC701 had some sort of GPU that helped with the video. I will have to fire it up some time and see if it can play a video. Remember it isn't only the CPU that matters.

    • @RogerioPereiradaSilva77
      @RogerioPereiradaSilva77 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @BilisNegra these Atom CPUs actually can run videos up to 720p mostly fine but not inside a web browser. I have an old EeePC running AntiX where I use SMTube to browse and play CZcams videos up to 720p and it works alright for the most part. The trick is to stick with video encoded in h264 for which the GPUs in these machines have _some_ hardware acceleration support and use a capable video player such as VLC or mpv.

    • @BilisNegra
      @BilisNegra Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@RogerioPereiradaSilva77 Oh, yeah, I've known about all of that using an external player for better performance for ages, and VLC was always the usual instance. Not convenient at all, but if that SMTube thingy allows you to actually browse, click and directly play instead of of having to copy and paste a link, that's a step forward. Not the full experience with your subscription feed and all but, well, it's something.

    • @freeculture
      @freeculture Před 2 měsíci

      @@BilisNegra wrong, you still can. What op missed was switching to a proper distro like antiX. There are not many pure 32bit distros out there, but some still exist. You can still have Chromium and Firefox derivative browsers recently compiled for it, heck you could do it yourself if you go Gentoo and use another pc to compile everything with distcc or such. The EEPC701 may not be capable to reproduce higher than 480p, but that's the literal vertical resolution of its screen. You could even use plugins that just yt-dlp and pipe the stream into mplayer or vlc and it works great.

  • @C4103
    @C4103 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Sony's physical design of devices like this is so cool, it's disappointing that the internals are so weak. I wonder if devices like this could be a candidate for something like what the PSPi project is doing. It's a replacement mainboard PCB for the PSP that allows you to mount a Raspberry Pi CM4 as a replacement "brain" with the display, controls, etc. wired up to it. Having a Pi in this form factor with the screen, keyboard, etc. would be cool, especially if all the peripherals worked.

  • @TradieTrev
    @TradieTrev Před 2 měsíci

    This is gold! or some may say orange!! Love you spicing up these crappy lappies with puppies!

  • @orion10x10
    @orion10x10 Před 2 měsíci

    I love that form factor so much 😭😭😭

  • @silencer51
    @silencer51 Před 2 měsíci

    I owned the original version of this laptop - it was very slow, but the form factor was incredible. I regret selling it. An updated version with modern internals would be incredible.

  • @ThomasReggi
    @ThomasReggi Před měsícem

    I love this form factor, I want more devices like this out there 😥

  • @triviadave
    @triviadave Před 2 měsíci

    I don't have a use case for one, but now I really want one (or at least I did until I saw how much they are going for on ebay). How is the keyboard? If so, how would it be for focus writer? Given how painful it would be to do anything else it might well be the perfect bit of hardware for writing on.

  • @themisterchristie
    @themisterchristie Před 2 měsíci

    Puppy Linux is a great little system and has grown so well. As for Haiku, that was one of the first things to come to mind.

  • @Cyber_Gas
    @Cyber_Gas Před 2 měsíci +1

    What distro should i install on my nanote i think p8 or something it has pentium n4200 8gb of ram 64 emmc i think 7 inch screen now there is win 10 but there works touchscreen but on linux there are some problems with the touch ¿¿¿

  • @dasfawsfasf935
    @dasfawsfasf935 Před 2 měsíci

    cannot tell you how desperatly i love the form factor and design, shame theres zero chance of anything like it agin

  • @fabiomb
    @fabiomb Před 2 měsíci

    i tried Haiku on my EEE 701 (cheaper, slower and older) and it works fine, you can try it on the VAIO

  • @southernflatland
    @southernflatland Před 2 měsíci

    I had fun fiddling around with Ubuntu based Puppy Linux back in like 2016. I wanted to see if I could run it from RAM, download and install VirtualBox and a virtual machine.
    It was slightly trickier than i thought, mostly because of RAM constraints (I had 4GB RAM at the time), but i actually got a VM up and running! All in RAM 👍
    Sure it kinda felt like a dead end experiment when i ultimately ended the day by turning the system off and losing the whole setup (I never had any good luck with that save data/session thing), but it was fun just to see Puppy hosting a VM in RAM.

  • @NeverlandSystemZor
    @NeverlandSystemZor Před 2 měsíci

    A tiny machine like that with modern hardware like iPads and MS Touch laptops COULD be a very capable machine, and easily carryable for small common tasks. I like the idea.

  • @DRNEGOLICIS
    @DRNEGOLICIS Před 2 měsíci

    Z540 came in my GPD win portable. It’s quad core with hyper threading. It’s stupid fast. Great for gaming for sure.

  • @kienanvella
    @kienanvella Před 2 měsíci

    There was at one point a version of puppy (possibly a puplet) that didn't have the user as root, but not sure if it's still around or maintained.

  • @ClearComplexity
    @ClearComplexity Před 2 měsíci +1

    Some type of adblock would probably speed up the web browsing quite a bit. A bulk of the resources leeched in web pages are all the ads.
    I remember wanting one of these bad back in 08 when they announced them. Somebody needs to shoehorn a Rock 5A or 5B in there with 8 or 16gb of ram. I use a 16GB 5B as my development machine running FreeBSD, and it's a lot better than that old hardware to say the least (doesn't take much, that was dog on release). You'd have to relocate the IO, build a battery setup, etc.; but in the end it would be a lot more than just a fun mobile terminal.