Killers of the Flower Moon - Review
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- My review for 'Killers of the Flower Moon' directed by Martin Scorsese.
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Scorsese directing makes me look at other older directors his age lowkey kinda slacking and I go “what’s ur excuse?” Scorsese wanted to learn about the Osage tribe and being a blue collar Italian Catholic from little Italy… now at 80 years old wants to learn about a totally different religion and society and show their suffering on screen when he could have done ANY other random movie? That’s filmmaking. It’s not just entertaining people it’s about learning and taking time to discover new things
Beautifully put ..❤
My understanding is that the Osage are really happy with the final product and were able to offer a ton of contributions to the film along the way. Sounds like it was an incredibly rewarding experience for Scorsese.
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@@faintmidnight24 Lmaoo ok I should change it “directors his age” Lmaoo
God soo beautifully put indeed
It’s also interesting that Leo is now the age De Niro was when he was in CAPE FEAR.
You should also see THIS BOY’S LIFE. It’s excellent. DiCaprio and De Niro’s first film together
I love This Boy's Life. I read the book and saw the flick back in high school.
Just came home from watching it. Started it 7:30PM and ended at 11PM. 😂
I absolutely loved it! It didn’t really feel its length, and I will be tired at work tomorrow happily for seeing this!
The movie didn’t fly by, but I never once felt tempted to check my watch. I actually loved that it took its time and how things played out. Will see it again on the big screen. Loved it.
Nice! Thrilled to hear you had a good experience. I'm eagerly awaiting the box office reports on Sunday. It'll be interesting to see to what degree word of mouth has an impact on performance.
As always, a pleasure to hear the passionate opinion of one of those people who make the cinema experience something extraordinary. I really want to see this movie. It seems like the opportunities to see the work of great directors are coming to an end in this strange era of cinema without soul or personality. The good thing about all this is that the great films last over time and that the voice of people like you James carries through the networks the essence and importance of these to those who today are unaware of the vast legacy of the great masters. As always, long live cinema and the new flesh.
Hopefully Scorsese will continue to be discovered by new generations of fans. His films and his commentary on film history have given me a lot of joy over the years. Let me know what you think of the movie and long live the new flesh!
@@geekinwithJamesHancock Hello James, I'm fresh from the cinema and I absolutely loved it! Very long run time but I thought it was brilliant: The setting, the dialogue, the cast, the sets, the costume...Wow. I'll be so sad when Scorcese is gone. I'm 32 and a wannabe screenwriter; what a contribution this man has made to cinema from long before I was born till today. All the best from the other side of the pond. P.S I absolutely need to see Seven Samurai; I'm so interested in Japanese culture-Especially Feudal Japan and Samurai culture and I know it's an all time classic so it's definetly on my list. Looking forward to your Napoleon Review! All the best,
Sean
i will be watching it sunday afternoon, when they announced the film i bought the book it was a good read if you like non fiction, the run time doesn't bother me but how about bringing back the intermission at least 5 minutes so people can stretch a bit im old enough to remember when theaters use to have them
An intermission was absolutely warranted. I've attended a few screenings with an intermission like 'Lawrence of Arabia' and I've always felt they make the experience feel more like a special event.
Read. The. Book. It's really a history of the beginnings of the FBI. And also a history of Native American oppression by the US. And a great murder mystery.
Can't wait to see this movie, but not in the theater. Over 3 hours is more than my old bones can take in a modern movie theater.
I've heard nothing but rave reviews for the book.
Everyone born in America is a Native American.
Good on you, James, for being able to critique DeNiro’s accent. He’s a tremendous actor, but he’s always at his weakest when cast in a role that isn’t a man from NYC. He doesn’t have great technical command of his voice, like Day-Lewis or Streep.
DDL definitely is a master of accents and luckily he and Marty had a chance to work together even if I prefer watching DDL haul ass through the woods for directors like Michael Mann.
The book is excellent! It's really more about the beginnings of the FBI as these killings were some of the early cases...
I've heard nothing but rave reviews. I have the audiobook but never listened to it because I'm a big slacker.
I might've shaved a little off, but definitely not an hour. While it's true that Scorsese lost me throughout the 2000s, he got me back on board with Wall Street and has been on a winning streak ever since. Wolf, Silence, Irishman and Flower Moon are among his best. Been a fan of Gladstone since Certain Women and she continues to be a compelling screen presence.
The departed is my favorite of his
The departed and the aviator and shutter island are three of his best
@@kdizzle901 Don't like any of em'.
I had a similar experience in the 2000s with flicks like Hugo and the Aviator, but Wolf of Wall Street definitely put Marty back on very firm footing. Looks like he's planning on working right up until he drops dead and I applaud him for it.
Lost you in the 2000’s..The Aviator..The Departed..2 of his best films there mate..
Clearly the lack of a 5 or 10-minute intermission is a huge mistake, based on the many opinions and reviews so far.
I didn’t have an issue with the length.
A nice intermission along with fewer trailers ahead of time would have dramatically improved the experience.
I feel the same. It’s not his best but I’ll still watch it so early.
AMC in NY is typically 25 minutes of trailers and ads. I’ve got it down to a science to get there just as movie starts. No Nicole Kidman for me thank you.
Sorry about the streak of audience bad behavior you experienced. Let me know what movie you’ll see next cause that’s where I’m not going, lol. I guess it’s all roll of the die because I watch a lot of movies in NY and somehow worst is snoring or banging on the back of my seat, I just plain lucked out so far.
It’s disappointing projections are only 30 million domestic. Just shows how much of an outlier Oppenheimer is.
Lol, I need to start taking an infrared camera to record all my misadventures in New York theaters.
I was glued to it the whole time. It’s a masterpiece.
It LOOKS like it could crack my top 10 Scorsese and it does have both De Niro and Dicaprio but I'll see. Eager to see it
I’ve enjoyed Scorsese’s post 2000 work, but this one is his best movie in years IMO. I think it’s going to be considered among one of his best. It made me realize that when he was working under the studio system in the 2000s, he probably had to make decisions based on commercial viability.
He made a movie that is less about entertainment and more about a layered story of greed, injustice, corruption, and hubris. And the way he told it is refreshing in light of his recent films.
Everyone should absolutely see it and decide for themselves. I'll definitely be watching it again as soon as it drops on Apple TV+.
Great review!
I totally agree.
The Goodfellas reference is brilliant. I didn't notice that one.
I noticed the Al Capone reference though. The shaving scene....
I will watch this movie, but only after I read the book, and once the film goes to digital and/or DVD. I agree with James about the trailers. I went almost 10 years without seeing a movie at the theatre (2010 - 2021). From Avatar (at second-run cinema) to Dune. At Dune, I was dismayed to sit for 30 minutes through trailers of movies there was no chance I would see - at all. I now call the theatre to discover the real start time of the film.
I got a fuckin’ ticket for this Friday morning!
I'll be curious to hear what you have to say. I modified my expectations a bit when Cotto wasn't doing cartwheels while discussing it on Wrong Reel.
They should show trailers after the credits for the people that want to see them. I think I need to watch this one a couple more times to give my final assessment of if it is good or great.
Excited for this movie
I'm rooting hard for the film to do well. I'll be very curious to see what kind of box office it generates.
The greatest living director. Even an underrated film like Shutter Island that doesn’t get talked about enough is still better than most filmmakers best films
I remember watching gone with the wind at the movies. I also remember that the film had an interval. Films going 3+ hrs need to bring that back.
Sad that a legend like Scorsese does not have the backing of the studios after all he’s done for the industry & his body of work.
This is a film that’s gonna stay with me for some time. The 3.5 hr run time will be polarizing but I think that’s part of the immersive experience when Molly talked about shutting up and listening to the storm. Martin consistently makes one thing clear, evil white men looking to rob you are in no short supply. Who are the thieves? ALL of the people working with the Osage. This is an “Eat the rich” flick and roles are reversed.There’s a lot of subtext about “work” vs “lazy.” Think about how gratuity is respected or lack there of. Notice in the back drop, guys covered in oil, ranchers, drivers…all grimy. Themes of Class warfare. Then there’s the bureau. I loved the line where the Osage elder said, “You’re only here because we paid you $20K…” which by today’s cost of living, what is that something like $10M? More? Once again, people don’t respect each other…they respect money. At the end of the film, Hollywood has the story which somehow people are continuing to make money off the Osage. The Osage, they have each other. Driving home the point, money is the root of all evil. Then again, that’s America.
Yeah for the 3.5 hour thing I dunno like I can watch a Tarkovsky movie and I'm in for 3+ hours but I watched Avatar Way of Water and I was so bored and I wanted it to end. Scorsese has got this I think but I'm definitely taking your advice not to go into this wasted or tired or whatever.
Can't wait!
Definitely an espresso movie. Hope you enjoy!
And don't forget to pee before going in.
A definite watch for me I had imagined it being a long one I look forward to stocking up on snacks and riding this one out
I packed a picnic lunch and a few caffeine pills to keep me going. Definitely stock up in advance.
So this film is worth seeing. Is Leonardo DiCaprio do a great performance?
Such great and beautiful movie. Love it.
Director of Photography Rodrigo Prieto is an amazing wingman for Scorsese.
Missed the opportunity for a Dances with Wolves comparison on the runtime bud. 😉
I have to disagree a bit because I thought Brendan Frazier was actually very good and the second he came on scene it really lifted the energy of the movie for me. I also thought DeNiro was in rare form, without him this movie isn’t great. This was a surprisingly good movie for me. I never thought “this is too long” while watching it. It unfolded brilliantly for me and the last hour I felt myself really into it despite dealing with a bunch of idiots who kept talking during the movie. So same as you I wished I’d had a better theater experience. I will definitely rewatch this at some point without distractions and see how I feel a second time around.
My only negatives were some poor acting. One of the Chiefs on the counsel was kind of dreadful and every time he spoke I felt myself cringe. I thought the sister who was killed was way over the top, didn’t like her at all. The main henchmen I also thought wasn’t very good initially but he seemed to have better scenes later on. This was just a really good movie for me. It felt like it used to feel when I would go to the movies and be entertained and forget about the bullshit going on in the world for a few hours.
Good review sir
I've never got the love for George of the jungle. I'm looking forward to this one nice review
Lol, yeah I never saw George of the Jungle but I remember it being successful at the time.
They need theatres you could smoke weed in for movies this long imo.
The smell and the smoke can be a huge problem
Isn't that why they make edibles? 😉
I occasionally will chomp down a gummy ahead of time but not if I'm planning on recording a review after the show.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock wise man 🙂
@@geekinwithJamesHancockSmart😅
Please do a video on how Apple measures success. That would be cool.
Thanks for the review James, however, my favorite movie Length is 90 minutes. Anything over 2 1/2 hours I approach with caution. My favorite movie over 3 hours is The Green Mile @3.09😊
My favorite Scorsese film is Goodfellas. I don’t like westerns and you make some of the acting you describe sounds mediocre. Yes, I keep hearing cable is dead and streaming is the way of the future, however with all those platforms, monthly bills could easily rival premium cable. Love your enthusiasm, as always.
I keep my subscriptions down to Max, Netflix, Prime Video and Paramount + but I hear you. With the monthly fees on the rise, it is time for the streamers to start offering bundles at a discounted price.
14:06 same! I went to the movie hungover this morning
Agreed Watch Trailers on your own time.
I imagine theaters are so desperate for cash they'll gladly let the studios pay to promote as many movies as they like but I think it is one of many aspects of the overall theatrical experience that needs some rethinking.
I think you make many good points but I can't let you insult Brendan Fraser (it's pronounced Fray-zer, like phraser) he acted EXACTLY the way that defense attorney acted in real life. Fraser's performance was excellent.
Book is fabulous and I can’t wait to see the film. But at over 3 hours I will watching at on home when it comes out on Apple
any idea on the filmmakers next project?
It reminded me of Goodfellas set in 1920's
James you and deepfocuslense (Maggie?) are some of the more nuanced reviewers.
High praise! I love her channel.
This is the second time I heard that someone was drunk in the audience. When we went there was also a drunk couple talking and giggling throughout the film. My spouse went to get someone to have them lower their voice. We wanted to avoid going off on them. Maybe it's knowing the film is three hours. I dunno. I give the film a 3.5 out of 5. I think Brandon was acting like the over the top lawyers did back then.
Wouldn't it be interesting to see a version where DiCaprio and Plemmons swap roles?
Plemmons might not have Leo's looks but he's totally got the acting chops to take the lead.
I just tried watching this film and I was BORED out of my mind!
I loved The Irishman but this movie here in Australia is only rated M. I thought it be more violent. It seems to not be as violent as The Irishman, am i wrong?
It's been a few years since I saw The Irishman so it is tough to do a compare and contrast. What's rated M mean down under? Here it is Rated R meaning anyone under 17 has to be accompanied by a parent.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock here in Australia m is m 15+ n stronger like the Irishman is MA 15+ and R Rated is R18+ so m means 15 years n older can see it MA15+ is a 15 year old needs parental guardian n r is 18+ can't wait unless 18. So Goodfellas and Casino r R rated here while the Irishmen is MA n Killers of the flower moon is M15+ I hope that helps
Your right James Seven Samurai is one of the best movies ever made
Absolutely cannot understand your thinking on de niros performance. Its easily his best since heat. Movie acting is not about the accuracy of an accent its about the honesty and substance of the performance. He sells a complex individual with so much depth. With respect to you, you do not appear to understand acting. They are not impressionists, they are acting emotions
Great review, James. Just got back from a matinee, and yes, I looked at my watch more than once. Agree that it is overlong, and those expecting the gleeful bad boy energy of Goodfellas and Wolf will be very disappointed. This film is centered on some venal and murderous hypocrites, which might try the patience of many. I think it is going take awhile to fully appreciate this film, but there's no faulting Scorsese's talents as a film maker at an age when many of the greatest directors were burned out and put out to pasture.
“Killers of the Flower Moon” is a good film, but not a great film. I don’t think it should win Best Picture of the Year. That honor belongs to “Oppenheimer.”
30 minutes of trailers?!
Definitely on the excessive side and then we had to watch that damn AMC intro with Kidman for the billionth time.
This film has Scorsese's gangster film style which makes fans of the genre enjoy it more.
Totally. Like I said in my review, the violent sequences are awesome and right on the level of flicks like Casino and Goodfellas.
I had to use the restroom for about two hours but I couldn't get up and miss 3 minutes.
He missed the mark on this one. 😬
I liked this movie and it was good but why does it have to be almost 4 hours long. Wtf. With the previews I was in the theater for over 4 hours. Someone add me to the employees payroll too for being there half a day.
Agreed. Mark Kermode put it really well when he said that the film has visuals that deserve to be seen on the big screen but a story designed for a streamer.
I’m going to see it in the theater to help Marty fight to save cinema
Hated this film. Very disrespectful to the Osage Nation as the story is never shown from there perspective. Nor are questions answered that leaves a very unfulfilled feeling after a 3.5 hour slog. Believe me, it feels every bit of that 3.5 hours. I like Martin Scorsese films but not all of them. I don't schill for directors and actors as they're human like the rest of us.
It’s was an ok movie. Slow and not intense. Soundtrack… none
I hated the irishman. So long and tideous
Same. Though more bored than hate
And those younger faces, computer-made... So stupid.
It was average for me but nothing that I would rewatch.
Feel like I've taken crazy pills.This is poorly paced and structured The acting is good; but the direction; composit8n and rhythm is numbingAnd tge ending is a buzarre betrayal of the audience via camp and white guilt .Off to the store now to get chow for this pup Ive been sold😮
Even the greatest as they age will drift towards senility.
The script was boring even for TV
BUTCHER’S CROSSING WAS WAY BETTER THAN KILLERS OF THE FLOWER MOON
Agreed 100% on Brendan Fraser; he was horrible and took me completely out of the film when he came in.
The bloated runtime is indicative of this confused mash-up of one brilliantly relaxed, understated supporting cast, well aware of the appropriate scale and scope of the true story they are telling, juxtaposed against the jarring cinematic ambitions of star (and executive producer) Leonardo DiCaprio, Robert DeNiro, and Scorsese himself, who seem to think they are making a Lawrence of Arabia or Ben-Hur-level of epic film (or even one of Scorsese's own gang/crime epics). In its vain attempt to reach the heights of True epic status, "Killers of the Flower Moon" manages to hammer another nail into the coffin of epic Hollywood filmmaking, which has been coughing up blood since the early 2000's. Get our full take here: czcams.com/video/0XVt_xuVtyU/video.html
I've no interest in this movie but I'm glad that Marty is still making movies.
Listening to 10 minutes of a review of a movie, complaining about the length of a movie....the irony is rich. Beat it bud
Beat it bud? Sounds like you read too many comics featuring Wolverine in the Eighties, although I think he used the word "Bub". At any rate, stop trying so hard to sound cool.