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Thoughts On TEXAS’ INDEPENDENCE | The Joe Rogan Experience #1952
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Thoughts On TEXAS’ INDEPENDENCE | The Joe Rogan Experience #1952
Michael Malice is a cultural commentator, host of the PodcastOne podcast “YOUR WELCOME” and author of several books, including “Dear Reader: The Unauthorized Autobiography of Kim Jong Il”, and “The Anarchist Handbook”. His newest, “The White Pill: A Tale Of Good & Evil” is available now.
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i’m a Texan born & raised and i’m fully in support of Texit.
Texas has almost no chance to secede please be realistic even if Texit was legal It would not have chance to pass it the Texas house of representatives
The current house, but major churn is coming.
@@georgerogers1166 just stop. It is literally illegal. It was decided by the Supreme Court of the United States after the Civil War, and it doesn't matter what part of the Texas Constitution you point to. A declaration of secession by Texas would be an act of war in which they would have no international support.
It would be highly hypocritical given the current foreign policy priorities. Also Americans industrial base is texas.
@@braceyourselvesfortruth2492 Nowhere in the United States Constitution does it say states aren't allowed to leave. We are in this union by choice. If we cannot leave peacefully by choice, then we're not members of a union, we're vassals of an empire. And that changes things...
we should definitely break up the federal government, smaller governments are more responsive to the will of the people
@@Tedturdsely380M regular civilians vs maybe 100,000 gov boot lickers. Who would win you think?
2 out of state guys that recently move here talking about this.
Exactly what I was thinking….”us Texans”
A bunch of out of state guys that recently moved to Texas gave it all in the Alamo
I'm a Texan and I want #TEXIT
Jersey trash
@@TX.SpaceCowboy Not as good of an idea as you think.
If it wasn't for the Tennessee Volunteers there just might not be a Texas
Shout out David Crockett
And Texas would be better for it
If wasn’t for Houston, there might be no Texas. Crockett fueled the revolution that Houston sought to win and he did.
As a texan, we love our tennessee brothers
I always tell people I meet from Tennessee that Davy and his crew gave yall a pass into texas anytime yall want. Make yourself at home anyone from Tennessee.
I would move to Texas if Texit occurs.
stay home
@@Desecrator6 Now I am coming to texas. I will haunt GTA 5 lobbies. I will introduce you to some of my cousins, we could hang out and BBQ
@@carlosbaja678 nah m8
First order of business after texit would be to ban immigration from California, New York and New England lol
@@carlosbaja678which type of bbq? Where at in Tx? Bbq varies greatly across the state. As do cousins, wanna meet mine? They’re in Mexico but they can stop by
Republic of Texas is a good idea 👍🏾
Just stop. It is literally illegal. It was decided by the Supreme Court of the United States after the Civil War, and it doesn't matter what part of the Texas Constitution you point to. A declaration of secession by Texas would be an act of war in which they would have no international support.
Texas is good
Absolutely prophetic.
TEXAS WILL BE INDEPENDENT 😉😉😉
Just stop. It is literally illegal. It was decided by the Supreme Court of the United States after the Civil War, and it doesn't matter what part of the Texas Constitution you point to. A declaration of secession by Texas would be an act of war in which they would have no international support.
Your words amount to secession and could be prosecutable.
Come on Joe!! But hey, THANKS for talking about it. This is a VERY IMPORTANT topic. #TEXIT y'all!!!
Joe ain't a Texan
Neither is the Jewish guy
Im not even from Texas and I completely disagree with Joe. I wish I lived in Texas and I think they should be their own country. I’m also sure if I was a Texan I would tell someone like me to not move there because there are already too many people that have moved there and a lot of people that are not real Texans (especially in Austin)
@@Keyser___Soze If we secede, we would be happy to house you
You can tell by how they say pecan
My family all from Laredo. I love Texas.
Texas the country .
Best idea ever.
Horrible idea. Just stop. It is literally illegal. It was decided by the Supreme Court of the United States after the Civil War, and it doesn't matter what part of the Texas Constitution you point to. A declaration of secession by Texas would be an act of war in which they would have no international support.
I've been saying let's go back to the republic for 15 years... Native Texan unlike either of these guys
Did you join the T.N.M yet? We could use the help
Just stop. It is literally illegal. It was decided by the Supreme Court of the United States after the Civil War, and it doesn't matter what part of the Texas Constitution you point to. A declaration of secession by Texas would be an act of war in which they would have no international support.
Imagine telling a woman to stay with her abusive boyfriend because if she leaves, he'll kill her
Exactly
Better than that, its illegal for her to leave. Lmao. States rights >
If Texit happens the US would not have the biggest oil & natural gas producer in the WORLD......let that sink in......Texas would be the richest republic in the world with the best military in the world......Texas has the highest number of veterans and active duty military in the country
Sure does
Why can't Joe see that everything he is bringing up as a complaint or problem is resolved by what Michael is suggesting?
Because he doesn't want a civil war
@@jacobtrowbridge7947neither does Michael. A "divorce" is agreement to separate. What is going to bring about civil war is forcing everyone to stay together and abide by one centralized power.
Joe made a good point though. The U.S is just not gonna turn the cheek with out a fight. 49 states against 1 . Texas is just digging it's own grave if it does.
Happen once.....
@@76063co2 No it would be taken as a war globally. Texas would start ww3 on us soil and have Ukrainian landscaping. Mexico now has the 30th largest military too and would want it too. There would be internal convulsions from all the illegal immigrants inside The people pushing the Texas succession are global elitist. Stop being stupid, everyone needs to stick together until the WEF is ended.
Breaking apart America isn't the solution to anything. Why are you guys always so naive about how this would go down?
I don’t feel Mexican and I don’t feel American I really feel Texan Is that weird?
No
1:35 ...10 months later
This michael guy is Brilliant!
Secession is one of the most American things to do.
Brit here. The UK gave Scotland a referendum on seceding from our union in 2014. Guess what? The Scots voted to stay! Why? Because there is more that unites the UK than divides us.
The US president has just spent the last week attempting to ferment anti Unionist feeling in Northern Ireland which btw has a majority firmly in favour of remaining part of the UK.
In honour of his championing of nationalist causes, I say he should set an example by granting Texas a referendum on its own nationalist aspirations.
Long live democracy!
It would be pretty close, I wouldn't be shocked if It passed
Using Nigel Farage as a reference point is a bold move.. 😂😂 not the best argument if I'm honest
As a native Texan and have lived here my entire life, I agree 👍
🇸🇴🇵🇱@texasnationalistmovement🇸🇴🇵🇱#Texit @maketexasacountryagain🇸🇴🇵🇱#MATACA🇸🇴🇵🇱
Support independence
Literally happening right now
We fought a civil war to preserve the union. I agree with Joe. Let’s find common ground then work from there.
One side wants to be fiscally responsible, preserve the the family, enforce our borders and stay out of foreign entanglements
The other wants to give 12 year olds sex changes, send every dime of taxpayer money to other countries until we go bankrupt, import the entire population of third world countries and make people eat bugs there isn't any common ground
You're OLD
Past the point of no return. We dont like each other, we never did, internet bringing it to life. We are too diverse to be united
I love how he uses ‘Brexit’ as a “good” example. I’m from the UK and it’s far from “good.”
Agreed, he’s speaking nationalistic drivel. From a Texan. Fifty states are stronger together than apart. And The Federal government proved they’d fight to preserve the union.
I'm Irish. I'm right next door to you. What exactly happened after Brexit that makes you say that?
@blazegunshark nothing he was just against it nothing changed
@@BT-sj9su And what changed under the EU that was so great? In Ireland I'm looking at a bunch of bullshit. Restrictions on fishing, restrictions on electronics disposal with no infrostructure in place to accomodate them, restrictions on fossil fuels in areas that legitemately had no access to alternatives, restrictions on data that make no destinction between small or large companies, restrictions on building in the middle of a housing crisis, taxes on industries in order to restrict countries from being too competative? Fuck the EU. The UK might not be doing well at the moment, but I wish them all the best outside of that gigantic interfering monolith.
Wasn't good if u check nowadays! London is trash can! The only place u can have peace and good life in Uk is Scotland
I'll go
Kinda surreal listening to this with the border situation how it is today
Texas already has a proper military that includes a Navy, ground Forces, and Air Forces. You'd be surprised on how many Texans would actually join in the Texan Military and not on the U.S. side. Texas would be able to secede peacefully and not in a civil war. Even if this "2nd Civil War" happened, still you'd be surprised on how many Texans (not including Americans who clam to help Texas) would join in the Texan military! As a Texan, I have a predicament; that this state will gain independence from the U.S. with the use of leverage on oil reserves and many more things that Texas has an advantage with against the U.S. using a thing called TEXIT, a movement within Texas that wants independence to be a great nation again. I'd bet everything I got just to predict a thing, that's how serious I am. Btw, No part of the U.S. Constitution says that states that states Cannot leave, plus over 30% of Texan voters (not including any likely voters) would vote to leave. It's not illegal for states to leave the United States. The fact that there are about 11 states that have movements within them suggest that its possible for a state to vote on seceding. I'm a TEXIT supporter and doesn't care if someone calls me a "non-American" which I already consider myself so. I will ONLY, ONLY consider myself Texan and no matter how much you try to say otherwise, it will not work. By the way, I will ONLY fight for my home state, not the United States, not Russia, not France, nor any other place besides my home state. Hope ya'll have a good day!
Wow you thought you really nailed it. Not one comment... Guy yelling at the sky
The fact that this comment got 24 likes should say something. Not the number of replies.
@@TexanSecMov Oh it says something when a comment on a 33K video gets 27 likes after the better part of a year, just like the fact that Texans can't even handle a mild winter without breaking down says something.
Something horrible is fixing to happen, in the United states
Secede!!!!!! Do you know how many veterans are in Texas? Active duty? We even have a few nuclear weapons. We are about to have our own gold backed currency.
Technically, texas still have they inner currency still backed by gold and minerals to an extent.
Are you a vet? I am, and I would stand with the United States. You know, the country I swore an oath to defend.
Regarding the idea of secession, please just stop. It is literally illegal. It was decided by the Supreme Court of the United States after the Civil War, and it doesn't matter what part of the Texas Constitution you point to. A declaration of secession by Texas would be an act of war in which they would have no international support.
The state of Texas does not own nuclear weapons, guaranteed. They are definitely controlled by the feds. Of course these would be reclaimed long before a secession were to happen.
No other state would dare invade Texas. People don't realize the mindset of Texas and how proud Texans are about being from Texas. For one, Texas is a massive state as far as land area. Two, Texas still has still huge amounts of undeveloped land and people know how to trek through that land. Last but not least, Everyone is armed to the gills in Texas.
HELL YEAH!!! PROUD TEXAN HERE!!!
Mexico did and won. It took the US government to free Texas.
Naw it seems that way but 98 percent of Texas is privately owned. The average Texan only has access to 2 percent of texas
Texans have the frontier culture that conquered the west.
its a difficult thing to decide we need less psychopathic left drones but we also need to not split us up even more
Still laughing
Joe Rogan for president
Well as a Californian separatist I say go and get independence Texas! Just like I hope we get it here in California and we become our own country
Florida for instance
“I dont want to have to show my passport when I fly or visit somewhere else” What an insignificant, nonsensical, stupid reason for why you wouldnt want Texas to be it own country. That might be dumbest reason I’ve ever heard for anything
Texas Forever Build a big Beautiful Wall around Texas!
😂😂😂
Get a grip Rogan. Texas cuts bait, do U have any clue as to how quick the wagon will fill up? From the git U'll have Louisiana, Arkansas & OK up to their eyeballs in this!
Why do they keep not agreeing on anything 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Im with joe
TEXIT WAVE THE FLAG!!!!!!!
I feel like if texas became a country they would just take out all thr people thst ain't from here
There are more than one state that might try to succeed
Legal immigrant here, don’t California MY TEXAS OR FLORIDA,nahhh don’t CALIFORNIA MY AMERICA!!!!…joe needs to go back to cali
Whenever anyone advocates a state leaving the Union should have a mental health examination. It’s just not going to happen in reality. So feel free to talk about it all you want.
It's basically an urban legend, kind of like how people in Canada all say that the sasquatch is a real thing and they've all seen him.
Anyone who says a man can be a woman needs mental health examanation
US military pulls out of Texas with all of their firepower and weapons and what would Texas have?
A civilian population with millions of guns plus national gaurd/af/navy
Sam Houston was president of Texas.
amzing, Dexit will be a win for democracy.😂
I'll move no problem
Texas is the better country there men still got balls
If Texas becames independent, what countries would (likely) recognize Texas as a new nation?
27 states have signed an agreement to back TX if anything happens with the fed gov over the border. Now states aren’t countries, but if they all secede they could be. Possibly Australia, maybe Mexico for some odd reason, and a few other minor countries.
The United Republic of ...someone help me out we're onto something here
Nah just be the republic of texas
@@Bakarost yeah good enough I guess
Ngl we could succeed in a war of independence but would require lots of strategizing even if the USA is the most powerful country in the world if we have a small fraction of their military we could atleast leave a mark and gain supplies and resources from other countries and Remember the USA has not won many wars and this war could be one of them if we all play our part to defend our state and future generations of the Republic of Texas
Texas is an independent not a part of the union
I'm all for states rights, but who will Texas go to for money when another hurricane comes? Florida too. People in Minnesota and Wisconsin have been subsidizing the coast lifestyle.
Uhhh ourselves, duh
That's why countries collect taxes. Cus eventually crazy shit happens and we'll need some savings to rebuild
you forget texas exports more than imports... we are pretty easily self sustainable...
@@Desecrator6 Sweet. Self sustainable. So why does Texas and Florida come running with their hand out every time the wind blows. Minnesota supplies 90 percent of the iron ore the US uses. We get no Fema money. No federal flood insurance. Every gulf coast home built is partially funded by Minnesota taxpayers.
@@trolltoll7696 Who consumes the most of that disaster fund? Why should I help pay for your lifestyle?
The Great State of Texas has its own economy and power grid, which does need updated. We are armed. Most importantly is that Texans are different…we love our State and are proud to live here. Don’t mess with Texas.
go go texit
Break up like Europe
a real anarchist would not be involved in whether a state wanted to secede.
You could argue that secession if 1 more step towards anarchism. Texas secedes, then Texas can split into different regions and then eventually splits down so far that the individual is their won country.
@@sir0nion I was just thinking that it would not end well at all
That's right they wouldn't.
Bump
Mexico laughing rn cuz it’s actually their territory
And the cartels are laughing at the mexicans thinking its their territory
Malice tries so hard to be a troll it becomes insufferable at times.
"Yeah so Texas..."
- Whoever This Dude is
Get out
Makes me happy that Joe is somewhat still coherent enough to laugh at this idea
Governor's are in charge of the National Guard located within their State.
You mean the one that also swears an oath to the United States? That could be called up to federal service with the stroke of a pen? Of course this would happen before Texas could do anything meaningful. Not that it would matter if they did.
Independence of Texas That can be a good TV show
The stupidity of this conversation is astounding.
Great opinion. Such insight and enlightenment from your post. My life have changed. Why cant people be a genius like you
Texas wouldn’t last 5 years as an independent country! Joe actually gets this one correct. You know the old saying, Even a Blind Squirrel…
You want some insight, only about 20% of Texans support secession.
@@Bakarost The state Republican party rejected the measure even after the Texas Nationalist Movement turned in what it says were 140,000 voter signatures.
140k out of about 6 million voters. 8 million in the state, so I’m estimating about 6 million are actual voters.
Texas can’t secede
Joe is very naive
Please do. Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.
This is why people want secession more, this rude mindset
@@thedoctorairsoft6813 Well, since conservatives are all about the"not paying taxes", I want them to follow their dreams so I won't have to pay when the Gulf of Mexico begins swallowing up their cities. Just being fiscally responsible.
With the state of the USA and polarization... No fucking wonder Texit's talk has been more consistent... Keep up with it
@@elscorpioperfecto3260 I will be keeping it up. I want it to happen. I want conservatives to have a chance to run their experiment and see what happens.
@@kriegmesserdclxvi2833 you just see it as “Red State hurr durr” when you don’t even see the cultural differences Texas has with the USA.
Joe for president.. cough
Malice for president. 😁
everytime texas went on their own they got their ass invaded and lost.
Ask mexico 😂
Lmao you didn't even do a google search did you, much less actually use your brain to do some research from a book most elementary kids read.
Dude you obviously haven’t studied Texas history much
@@loganscalise7206 Nor read the Texas State Constitution
First of all it would be completely illegal to secede from the union and it will never work. The Civil War settled that issue. Second as a Texan I think it's stupid be even talking about this and wasting our time. I hate California and I hate liberal politics, but who's to say that if Texas seceded from the Union that we would wind up with a better government as opposed to another tyrannical one. If we can't fix the United States the way it is you can't fix Texas. So stupid stupid conversation.
Ridiculous statement.
@robbibailey3310 Why genius? It is NOT going to happen and it is foolish as are the people who think it is ridiculous. Troll.
Jesus. Illegal doesnt mean anything. Its illegal to cross the border without proccessing. Millions do it anyways. Illegality doesnt mean anything. If texas leaves america says no, and texas stop paying taxes to america and do all the things needed to fund their own goverment, shouting its illegal to do that doesnt change anything
@muffaletta Do you remember the last time states decided to secede? That's right, a civil war. Illegal actions justify law and it is NOT legal for a state to secede. Texas will not secede, if they stopped paying taxes...the US military would intervene. LEGAL matters at this point genius, since that's what Abbot is USING to justify closing the border. You don't know what you're talking about. If he was doing ILLEGAL actions no other state would have supported it. It is ILLEGAL to do what Biden is doing. So yes, legal matters, the Constitution matters.
Guess the citizen test Mike took didn't have the "Remember the Alamo " question. If Texas leaves the union,Mexico will do what Russia is doing to Ukraine. Mike read a history book. Maybe you want this country weaker?
LOL,
Mexico has 1 no territory claims to Texas
2 Mexico has a very low record of foreign interventions.
3 Mexico is basically in civil war with the Cartels
4 Mexico is ultra Nationalist enough currently to have the drive to seek to restore the old borders of the previous empire.
This is just fear mongering in the hopes to trick Texans to not want independnece.
Wrong. Mexico has been invading Texas already. The Biden administration has done absolutely nothing to strengthen the border problem and instead turn a blind eye to it. When Texas gains its independence, priority 1 is to strengthen the border and stop the ongoing Mexican invasion into Texas.
LMAO no way you actually believe Mexico, a country that can't even convince its own citizens to stay there, would be able to organize a full military incursion into Texas. And no way you actually believe Texas, the state that has more guns than people and a landmass bigger than Ukraine, would actually be at risk. Man, this brain-rot is impressive.
Was that dude legit? Womens suffrage would be at issue bahahaha! Surely not?
repeal the 19th!
First of all, this is not philosophically, logistically or politically credible. It is hallucinogenic. But let's explore the issue as if it wasn't pure lunacy.
I live in New Mexico, so the issue must surface formally at the Roundhouse, the state legislature in Santa Fe. Some idiot (and the state legislature is crammed full of idiots) stands up and demands that New Mexico declare its independence from the rest of the United States…and, rather than having the fool hauled off for random urinalysis and a full psyche evaluation, the legislators stand and up and, slack jawed and with vacant stares, endorse the proposal uniformly and pass it up for the Governor's signature who signs it in what she will claim later was a fit of temporary insanity. What next?
The duly authorized New Mexico Declaration of Independence is sent to the White House with a copy to the Speaker of the House. Some things are likely to occur:
a) The President & Speaker of the House roll on the floor, laughing hysterically, and come to the conclusion that this is a well orchestrated practical joke.
b) The President & senior Congressional leaders take the action seriously. Immediately actions are taken to include:
1. Closure of all interstate highways and roads between NM and other states. Posting Federal officials at all, repeat, ALL, such “border crossings" denying access to the rest of America to anyone trying to enter America using a NM drivers license…confiscating US passports offered by anyone using one in addition to their NM drivers license. Establishment of toll roads and a visa system to enter the US to be created shortly. Air services to be shut down for planes flying out of or coming into NM.
2. Federal services, to include postal services, shut down. Think about that. Federal government civilians who do not choose to immediately accept alternate employment outside NM immediately terminated.
3. Military bases and major contract facilities servicing military efforts closed pending a decision on how to reassign contracts, missions, resources, etc.
4. Welfare and other Federal funding for NM immediately suspended pending executive review. Federal funding suspended pending further review. No Federal money flowing into NM banks. Is it fun yet, Santa Fe?
5. Santa Fe formally notified that Federal properties will remain Federal properties until/unless a negotiated agreement is reached to surrender control to the new nation of New Mexico, Fantasia, Mordor or whatever else they choose to call themselves. Any arbitrary New Mexico action to take control of Federal facilities WILL be treated as an act of war with FULL military response. (Note! This is NOT a bluff! There MAY be weapons and technologies on Federal facilities that DC will NOT permit to remain in NM hands!)
6. If Federal armed intervention is deemed necessary, the current government of NM will be overthrown, its state “Constitution” revoked, the state occupied by the military, a military governor installed, it's status returned to “territory” status pending a zero based review of laws and overall reconstruction and approval of a new state charter.
says you
An important factor you’re not considering is New Mexico needs the Feds, Texas does not.
Bro you’re from New Mexico your whole state is a joke -from Texas 😂
The first thing to understand about Texas is that it’s occupied Mexico…
It’s “North Mexico”
As is most of what is now
The South West, really…
They even had to give a territory the name
“NEW Mexico” to address
this reality…
And, although they are,
by and large,
decent US citizens,
the people who live
in these areas have roots that go waaaay back before
The USA was even an idea…
This is the dynamic The USA has had to deal with since
its inception
The entrenchment of
Northern European society versus
Southern European society
Anglo-Saxon vs Latin
Lol cope harder Mexican ultra nationalist, Spoiler alert, Santa Ana is not coming back to life to forge a new Mexican empire.
I think your wrong. Americans and Mexicans have blended their own culture in Texas. Hell the food is even called Tex mex. Think of Normans going to England and how French and British culture blended.
Are you smoking crack again?
U realize the american civil war was anglo-saxons vs celtic right?
I think Texans love their state but love being an American even more. Much like all conservatives do. The north Vs. south debate is so outdated and literally irrelevant in every sense. You can bring these things up but it doesn’t make them relevant to today. It reminds me of the guy who talks about the Russia-Ukraine war and brings up WW2. Even though you cannot possibly compare the two wars.
As a lifelong Texan, it's about 50 50. I know a lot of people who would love to be independent, but I also know a lot of people who prefer to stay.
nope. i’m a texan born and raised and me and all my friends want Texit
Texan Here born and Raised, I'm also a 25 year Army Veteran and I have been all over the world and when asked where I'm from Texas always comes out of my mouth first, and of all the other Texans I have met in the Military it's Always and I mean Always "I'm A Texan before I'm an American". If Texas ever succeeds then I'm all for it and will live and die in Texas.
Growing up in Texas a saying you hear all the time is “We’re Texan first and American second”
Texan first, southern second, american third
Such a dumb idea. The idea of sucession was put to the test in 1861 and the north won. So any idea that they won't do it again to retain the most profitable state in the union is beyond stupid.
Such a dumb comment
Some of these people are hoping for the North to lose if you have a sequel. That's the crazy thing about life, you can try again if you want.
I agree with you. You sir know your history.
Also Texas left with almost almost half of the U.S ( Rest of the south) and still loss. Now add 49 states vs 1 .
@@zerofox2030 Some of those people are pushing an elitist agenda to start ww3 on us soil. Stop being stupid. They may win but only after having Ukrainian landscaping.
@@creamy3803 It would turn into a world war with most countries dog piling. With the currency war, most countries would jump on to use it to attack the US. Texas' side may win but would be completely destroyed as a result.
I fully support the Christian Theocratic Republic of Texas. The Texas Constitution should be based on biblical law.
Youre baptist aint u
Rogan for president