DEEP Conversation with the China Guitar Sceptic (TGU19)
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- I had a great conversation with Mike from the China Guitar Sceptic channel! Here we talk about Chinese guitar manufacturing, stigmas against it and how they are changing, plus the overall perception of the quality of guitars from different countries. This was a fascinating conversation that I really enjoyed having and I'm very happy to bring it to you.
Here's the book that Mike was talking about (Factfulness) : amzn.to/31jjWlo
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The $200 guitar today, rips the shit out of the $200 guitar 20 years ago
Absolutely does. Watching these instruments evolve over 30-ish years and you're absolutely correct.
chris W 20 years ago you could Only get get Special IIs and Squiers for $200. Granted they came with an amp,tuner,cables,case and institutional DVDs. But still left a lot to be desired...
There were $200 guitars 20 years ago?
Without accounting for inflation too
This is true for 20 years ago, but not 60 years and beyond. A lot of valid points made in this video that I support and that deserve a continued discussion going forward. On the same coin however, they speak as if the past didn't exist haha. A skilled craftsman is a skilled craftsman, regardless of geographical location (this notion is finally starting to be generally accepted). Nobody is at 100% all of the time, and this is especially true for people in a highly competitive job market, toiling to meet a quota and/or performing a repetitive task all day long. In instances such as these, quality control, streamlined production, and advanced modern manufacturing technologies are pertinent to ensure the success and proper caliber of the finished product. All of which were common issues that the majority of "overseas" factories faced until 5 or so years ago. It's not that these factories couldn't make top tier instruments. The concern was mainly "can they consistently produce quality high tolerance instruments?" and "Is the one I ordered a stud or a dud?". The internet, as well as connectivity in general, has also been a major factor in ushering in the age of high quality/ low cost instruments. You can no longer rest solely on the laurels of an accomplished name brand... if you make and sell a shit product, everyone is just a click away from knowing that it's shit. Likewise, this environment has made it possible for start-ups with terrible names (i.e. Harley Benton) to thrive by producing instruments high value/low cost instruments, sans the frivolity of well established and archaic "household name" companies.
Viewed a few years later, it's very moving to see Mike (Lance) so well and in his prime. RIP. You both showed real insight into the way the guitar manufacturing industry was set to develop.
You both seem like really down to earth dudes. I dig both your channels. Rock on!
Thanks!
I like your channel. I don't work on tube ps or amps in general but I'm really digging it when you are diagnosing issues abd fixing them as well. I've learnt a bit from just watching you. By the things you say and way you say them... your a smart guy and the channel is great as well. I learned about NUTUBE technology from you. And watched you check them out . And work On a Vox lil head. SAME Lil head my buddy bought a year ago. And his Lil VOX just took a shit in the exact same way that the one on your show took a shit. Thank you fir all thr enlightenment. I appreciate it man. Take care. MAX is awesome too. Helluva guy. Love this show too.
Great video, interesting discussion.
Thanks!
It was really sad watching this knowing what happened to Mike recently. Seemed like a lovely guy. 😢 rip.
What happened?
Mike passed away with cancer some time ago
@@daveyboyd784
Hold on. What happened to Mike??
@@daveyboyd784he died.
@@daveyboyd784 passed away from ALS/MND
AWESOME VIDEO MAX!!! Well spoken and intelligent conversation on both ends. I love these crossovers.....they keep getting better and better!!!
Great video Max. The idea of "American exceptionalism" has infiltrated the guitar market, and influences buyers. That's why American guitars are so overpriced. And why people will pay a premium price for them. The Chinese guitar makers can build inexpensive guitars because the cost of living is much less. It's not "slave labor" as some uneducated people insist on stating here on CZcams.
Wow, what a stimulating conversation! Thank you for this!
Just a shame your video wasn't longer. Was excellent viewing Max, great work as always 🤘
hold on now lil dog, Max has a nice babe
Absolutely fantastic episode. Thanks to you both.
This was a great interview. Both of you made some interesting points. Yes, 1st world countries make very fine instruments at a high price point and if you can afford them then buy them. Not everyone has the income to afford them so budget friendly instruments fill an important niche for many of us. Thank you Max. Looking forward to the next video. Thank you!!
Two of the top 'reviewers' on CZcams having a real conversation. This was a pleasure to watch (and Hell, I don't even OWN an electric guitar). Never been disappointed with any video I spot featuring either of these two guys.
Max, Steve, CGS, three of my faves in videos together. Doesn't get any better!
We have everything from Squier 51 to Epiphone Explorer to Sterling AX20 to a Gibson Les Paul and an SG .... and were just as excited to get our HB SC-550 Paradise Amber and SC-450 P90 GT delivered a week ago! GREAT Guitars and both together less than 1 of the Gibsons. We love all of them. My son benefits greatly from not being a "Guitar Snob". Thanks to both of you for always telling it straight!
Great video I really like all the collaboration right lately it'd be great to get all you guitar guys together in a live discussion format.
Nicely done Max and Mike. Enjoyed this interview very much.
Great interview, I love both you guys.
Excellent commentary. Fair and objective points were concisely made. I didn't expect to hear discourse that touched on cultural stigmas, media marketing, psychology and sociology from a guitar channel but wow. I always knew musicians were deep thinking and astute intellectuals of the world. This is merely more proof of that.
Great video. Great discussion. Some very good points. Nice one, fellas.
Great video. Some of my most played instruments were made in Japan, Korea, China, Indonesia. Subbed CGS, brilliant chat.
This is a great video !. Very informative and a lot of good points!..😁
You two guys are the future of guitars, it's refreshing to see people care more about what is good, sounds good than what people are told is good.
One of them is the future of chins.
Who cares about the future, right? Just the almighty dollar matters. Who cares if us Americans sold out our kids future to save 20 bucks. It's a guitar, and twenty bucks which is way more important than the future of the only nation on earth that believes in liberty.
Thanks for the post Max. Love you and Chinaguitar sceptic.
Wonderful Conversation - Thank You!
Great interview love the mindsets!
I really enjoyed this video. I'm a subscriber to both of your channels and I have a guitar channel as well. This is great. I truly love Harley Benton guitars because I am a beginner guitarist. My brother " likes " them, but he is kind of a guitar snob. Of course he owns so many high end guitars that of course they are a little sub standard for him. Most importantly I get to spend time with him and listen to him play for free!
Max, I just discovered your channel today. I have been fumbling around with guitars since 1965. Although I suck as a guitar player, I can recognize a righteous dude immediately. Let me say right here, right now, without any equivocation, that you are one badass hombre. Stay strong, brother, and always keep it real!
Thanks Buffalo!
Absolute awsome video. When he said South Korean guitar makers.... I thought he or you were going to mention the Agile guitars. Oh well, at leat you guys mentioned Glarry and Harley Benson... also Wolf comes to mind. I love your honesty, and more than once, it has persuaded me to pruchase guitars or other gear, soley on your recomendation, and you have never steered me wrong yet.
Good to see you again Mike (Lance). Been a while since I saw you in a video mate (certainly not in the last 7-8 months since you passed away).... thoroughly enjoyed this video, its _almost_ like you haven't left us.
Very good, correct and honest discussion. As a Vietnam Vet, I experienced Asian culture first hand in 1970. Over the period of my twenties I saw the Japanese government, in collaboration with American industrialists, copy, modify and develop manufacturing techniques which were second to none. Here we ignorant Americans sit, with our images of sweatshops and primitive work conditions fed to us by the government to make us feel content. LOL...While the rest of the world looks to Asia for the most innovative and creative manufactured products the world has ever offered consumers.
i love max and you your chanlles are great but you know here latly major comp are doing same as china cheap crap but here they charge ya higher so yes you get what ya pay for unless ya live in us then ya get payed for name
ty love you guys
Seems like you have the same view of your fellow Americans that you claim they have of everyone else. As an American I sure am glad you're only speaking for yourself and not the rest of us. What a narrow minded shitty view of your own people :)
Good discussion, thanks Max.
Great interview, thank you.
That was very interesting and Mike made some excellent points! Great vid Max Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Mike knows his shizzle 🤘🎸🔥 Great vid 👌
"Cheap" guitars and "affordable" guitars...in my mind there is a distinction! As always, Max, great video.
Greetings from the UK! Great video, I always enjoy different perspectives on things in life and how, in this instance, buying an affordable guitar does noes necessarily equate to settling for second best or even that it's going to be poor quality. In some regards, reviews of more affordable quality equipment could be said to be more interesting than stuff that is expensive, and that's because guitars that are two grand and upwards really should be excellent without any issues, and is usually out of reach economically for many of us, but something like a Harley Benton Fusion II, a G&L ASAT, the brand Vintage, and others are redefining what a great instrument can be, and bigger brands like Fender are catching on to this and are constantly evolving with great guitars such as their 'Player' series. Mike's a lovely chap guy, I enjoy content from the both of you. Take care.
I agree with everything that was said, except the PRS part about never letting an imperfect guitar leaving the factory. I bought a Dave Navarro signature and there was visible wood glue around the neck and body, came not setup, and the neck was warping because they didn’t let the wood thoroughly dry. However, they did take it back and set a new one that was perfect out of the box.
In the red corner we have China Guitar Sceptic; in the blue corner we have PRS Sceptic. Seconds out. Ding ! Ding !
Dave Navarro spent all their QC budget on drugs.
Most of my band worked for PRS, and a lot of my friends still do. I remember Pauls very first shop in Annapolis where I'm from. I can tell that it's very rare to have gotten a PRS Wirth that many issues. Especially a core. I believe you, but it's rare. Your guitar was obviously built on a Saturday by my friends after one of my Friday night parties.
@@tonysarrio8940 Ahhhh so you’re the culprit! Nah I’m kidding 😂 it’s highly possible but it’s all good, they fixed the issue and sent another one that was perfect. I still have it, I’ve had it for a decade so thank your friends for a fantastic guitar!
Great conversation frm two of my favorite reviewers of affordable gear.
Thanks Max and Mike. Much truth!
Great video man!!!! 🤘
I really appreciate your focus on affordable axes.
Great interview Max.I have a Japan squire it's awesome.And a Japan Charvel ditto.
Thanks. Great video
Great thoughtful discussion.
Fantastic interview
One thing that would help the Chinese guitar market would be to have a luthier using their own Chinese names. It would sound exotic like a fashion designer or something.
Americans want to be orientalists so it would be benefits to have something unique on the market but simple and classic.
He was one of my favorite CZcamsrs. Rest in Peace Mike
Quality and value. As companies gain knowledge and skill they can compete.
I love all the collaboration videos
Great interview Max. I almost wear my inexpensive guitars like a badge of honor. Like any guitar, it's hit or miss. I agree to buy Gibson/Fender/PRS can be a status thing, but man I have some inexpensive guitars that I go to before I go to my more expensive guitars. thanks for this interview.
Great interview!
Nashville Guitarist Here. I Played a (Law Suit) Lyle LP Copy For A Lot Of Years , And Lots Of Gigs. Every Guitarist That Ever Played It Was Amazed !
Awesome interview!
Max...a great interview !
Always enjoy your videos Max, never miss a one. I am in total agreement. As I have stated in some of your other videos, I got an attitude with Gibson these days. Poor customer service and even the quality seems to have dropped from what I have seen others post. I have mentioned this before but sold my Gibson Les Paul and kept my high end Epiphone Les Paul and just hot rodded it a bit and it plays as nice and sounds as good to me better then my Gibson did. I have watched quite a few videos on the Chibson guitars coming from China and seen some astounding work being done to them to give them that Gibson quality sound and feel. Eric C has videos on how to totally rework a Chibson from neck to body.
I think a lot of other musicians are starting to wake up to overseas made guitars.
This is weird
People buy high end electronics made in China. No problem.
People buy high end guitars made in China. Problem, it can't be good.
It's like double standards.
It's because it takes years to develop skills and factory quality. When Japan first started making consumer electronics after WWII, they were often literally made in people's homes. My now-deceased business partner worked with a Japanese man to build TVs, transistor radios and later home stereos. They taught one block of people to assemble tuner circuits, another to frequency converters, another the chassis, etc. Naturally quality was terrible, but the price was very low because those workers required very little money to buy clothes, food etc.
As the Japanese economy improved, factories were built, people trained to work in a production environment. As time went on they moved from producing cheap crap to high quality products.
When the cost of doing business and end product prices went up in Japan, production moved to other countries like China, India and others and the same process repeated minus the home-built part.
I spent years building a semiconductor design and manufacturing company with facilities in the U.S., Europe and Asia.
I started visiting China in the first decade after Nixon opened up trade with China. At the time, 95% of all Chinese were peasants. We built their factories, we trained them etc...
People remember the time in which the product was low-quality and low-price, and don't necessarily stay up with the advancements as they're made.
It's consumer ignorance more than anything else
edit: there is one other point to be made though, over the years, we allowed our manufacturing to be moved to low-cost countries and in so doing lost millions of high-paying factory jobs...in effect, we traded our good jobs for cheap crap from other countries.
When you think "I'm saving a ton of money on a guitar", you don't think about the depressed wages here in the U.S. because those jobs are now gone. You saved money on that guitar at the expense of having better pay. Was it a good trade? Not for everyone.
I made out like a bandit...did you?
No Andy it's not weird, let me put it this way, if you buy a new Chinese made electronic you buy it from a local store right? If you have an issue what do you do? You take it back to that store. If you buy a Chinese guitar where do you buy that from? Sometimes you can buy them from local places but most times it will be online. Now, you have an issue with that guitar, where do you take it? If my Gibson or Fender gives me an issue I can take it 30 minutes up the road to Guitar Center - see the difference?
Plus a lot of people have an issue with buying items from companies that are selling their products so cheap because they pay their labor so cheap. Me personally, I will buy a guitar if I like it, period. I do however prefer to only buy from places that will deal directly with me if I have an issue.
Its the fakes that are the issue that are coming out of China - the ones that say Gibson or PRS. Its those that have given Chinese guitars a bad reputation but a company like Eastman is great.
@@BAMozzy69 - yes but those guitars are not what they are talking about. The discussion is and has been more about the legitimate manufacturers just making copies of popular styles but putting their own names on them. The Chibsons are ones that NOBODY likes.
@@RickMcCargar You make some good points.
It should be noted that the US wreaked more destruction on Japan than any other industrial nation has ever experienced. We killed between 700,000 and one million Japanese civilians, most of who were incinerated. 180,000 were killed by the 2 atomic bombs. ALL heavy industry was destroyed. On the day that the surrender was signed on the Missouri, LeMay flew over 800 B-29 bombers over Tokyo. Such was the American war machine.
With a lot of post-war US help, the Japanese people rolled up their sleeves and rebuilt their industrial base from nothing to amazing in a couple of decades.
I can remember when Nikon challenged Leica for the 35 mm market. People were blown away by the Japanese quality. Now, 'Made in Japan' means top quality.
China cannot do anything like that because of the onerous government control of the population, and the government sponsored cheating and scamming culture that prevails there today.
Great vid Maxx!!!!!
Max, love the channel. China Sceptic guy, i like his channel too. And of course my comments are not reflective of them. I've played on some Chinese guitars, even newer ones, and they are garbage. I have a "high end" Epiphone and it's a great guitar, AFTER i spend some time and money getting - 1) frets leveled 2) replaced the nut 3) fixed the radius on the saddles 4) etc... You have to do this and much more on these chinese guitars. Now, i'm sure that you can get a good one, but for my money I much prefer to spend more money on something done in a country that has years of experience as opposed to otherwise. Frankly, they could make some really good guitars, i just haven't seen any of the "copies" that were worth even the $200 plus shipping (i think they are closer to 5 or $600) they cost. Good interview, good discussion, all good stuff.
First off thank you Max , your videos are awesome, I'm taking up the guitar again after 30 + years my band broke up and I became a police officer and desert Storm kicked I joined the army after 20 + years I'm now retired I'm board sitting home and my new wife and you have inspired me to return so thank you, the first video you did that I watched was on the chibson , my question is do you feel it's a good deal as far as sound goes
Thanks for your service in both law enforcement and military 👍, I've never tried a Chibson but for me the feel of the guitar is more important than the sound off the bat because I can always change the pick ups but that's just me and my son. What style of music do you like or play?
@@1thess523 all kinds but my passion is 80's Power Ballads , yes , Pink Floyd, Ozzy, although me and my buddies were mainly hard rock back then hard rock was Judas priest, I was the only one who could sing Ballads but we worked so hard and saved all our money for studio time to make a demo I took a city bus from Mesa Az to Phx AZ and they were passed out from doing acid for a week and have not picked up a guitar since or wrote a song until my wife now she put the fire in me , your video helped me as well so I thank you and your knowledge blew me away I follow you and another guy who teaches piano/keyboards another passion of mine, Paul Rogers, Head East , Billy Thorpe stuff like that, as far as the chibson I can't afford to pay $3,000.00 for the real deal so would I be happy with the sound and thank you for responding your awesome I'm constantly trying to catch-up on your vids keep it going I'm looking forward to the classical guitarist rock on brother
@@tobyhicks155 try searching kramer evh or frankenstrat on aliexpress just cost around 190+ if youre lucky free shipping
Good interview, very informative and insightful.
As far as Chinese made guitars goes, if you can set it up good enough to gig with then all that's really needed is to replace their cheap pickups and pots with high quality stuff and you're golden!
This video is fantastic.
A great interview with David Brent👍🏻
Mike's a great guy! Thanks
Good work brother, I bought a cheap guitar, one of the ones you had previously on your channel.
I have three guitars from China - one Ibanez, one Jackson, and one Stagg. They are all as good as any other guitar I've ever played that fit my short fingers. I've had a Japanese Strat and a Japanese Ibanez 7-String for 20 years, and they are amazing. I also made it a point to do my own research on modern factories in China, and how things have evolved - and I think it's important to be informed. Great video!!
Incidentally, I did replace the bridge pickup in my Stagg M350, but it was then that I found that The original pickup is wax-potted. I asked Stagg if all their pickups were waxed, and they confirmed this. I think that's pretty cool. I also just adore that guitar - it's made of Alder, Maple, and has a rosewood fingerboard - and it plays great! It also has THE nicest Sunburst finish I've ever enjoyed.
i just found this video! cgs is awesome!!!!! nice video!
Hi Max! Very intresting video. I have some Chinese copy guitars and I am happy with them. they all needed to be set up but they were very cheep. In Australia the range of choice is stereotypically limited. If I go to a guitar shop I can by any guitar. It will be earthy black or wood grain finnished. Now don't get me wrong I like thighs finishes but it's like that's all we have to choose from. With all my Chinese copy guitars the thing that attracted me most was the colors. and patens on the instruments. My favorite is my fright green hybrid tele. It's a hollow body 22 fret twin humbucker with a maple neck and it has a licensed floyd rose. I can't get a guitar like that in Australia. Take care Max from your pal Helcat in Australia.
Was hoping for you to play us out !!
My son and I like to go around the local guitar shops and play guitars that we can't afford , awhile back we found a shop that had a whole wall of Korean PRS's, the fit and finish on these guitars were spot on, and they played and sounded great, my son is saving up for one as we speak.
When two of your Favorite channels come together!
TFS Max
Max, you do a great thing on your channel, destroying the myth of out of reach guitars for new, young, or even seasoned players. I have to say that you are one of three You Tube guitar channels that I watch, along with Darrel Braun, and Jonathon Kohl. You three , in my perception are the best out there. In fact, I have suggested to Darrel and Jonathon in my comments, that you three should get together and do a You Tube music video, nobody else could touch it! And I can't wait to read that book Factfulness. I have known in my inner man for a long time, that things aren't near as bad as they are portrayed to be. And without getting political, I think the current events of the day, along with the endless insanity and blatant lies of mainstream media, have proven the point of the book, without even having to read it. Thanks for everything.
Only just seeing this now and I gotta saw this is one of the most important videos on guitars, production etc. Really. I wouldn’t have believed it back when you released this video 3 years ago but having purchased my very first HB (25th Anniversary Strat) just a couple of months ago (followed by another HB and a Jet) I’m 100% with this. It’s a new dawning for guitars
Btw what is that tasty red Strat behind on the wall?
Yeah I'm a patriotic American but my pocketbook sure isn't
bobowrath sovine and unless you're native American you're family came from somewhere else. America is a global nation.
Our goverment has no issue borrowing Chinese money....
Lol well said
bobowrath sovine if the US didn’t tax the 💩 out of me I could afford a MIA guitar. My wallet not my conscience determines where I buy from. Stop ripping me off America.
@Victor Buford he was just joking....calm down
That's the problem
Great Video.
Having some experience with Chinese manufacturing I feel compelled to point out that the advantage is far more than wages. Quality is increasing by leaps and bounds offshore and they are not generally built by children but some of the advantages are in the area of worker safety and working conditions. Very few factories operate on an 8hour day and overtime or productivity bonuses are not expected, much of which is culturally motivated. And although PPE has become more standardized, the environmental controls on most of these factories is nearly non existent. China is #1 in poor air quality and is experiencing serious issues with clean drinking water.
Sam Gowman personal protective equipment. Gloves, masks proper respiratory protection, stuff to protect against hazardous chemicals and such
China is actually one of the leading countries for environmental change and progress towards a cleaner environment. They’re ranked in the top 3 for most progressive over the last 5 years and have 1/4 of the pollution per person than America.
Don’t know where your info’s coming from, but most of its just bollocks.
@@AAllinsonNN that’s nonsense.
@@lisamontgomery6426 facts don’t care about your opinion. No one asked for it, but hopefully you feel better for giving it (:
They are highly untrustworthy! For them it's all about getting the goods produced and out of the door. If you don't have your own QC team doing very rigorous checks there, they'll send you crap thats not specified -- as we found out with medical equipment, that our stupid management produced in china.
The first 10.000 units we inspected 25% of them. Of that 25% around 30% did not meet spec! And we even found units that had different resistor and capacitor values! When we asked why the hell that was! They said: "We ran out of components. So we took the nearest value, it will work no worries!" It's a good thing that was a video call, because I would've fucking punched his glasses through his skull! It's ILLEGAL to change your registered designs of medical products. They are approved and registered as such, so changing the specs is not allowed without actually re-registering and approving your new design.
But they don't care because it's out of their factory on time.
So we ended up sending 3 people doing 24 hour shifts of QC. Kicking Chinese management for everything that went wrong. They hated us for it. Every time it was: "but it will work. it is fine! that doesn't matter".
And that's electronics, which they are really good at!
And after that contract we moved the production to Poland. Now that's quality! Proactive people, they do exactly what is asked and don't deviate. They call if supply is stuck and don't "wing it".
Good chat thanks dudes!
Some of the best guitars in the world right now come from Indonesia. Manufacturers such as WMI, Cort, and Samick are producing some of the highest quality guitars that I have seen.
As a fifty plus year player, with absolutely NO disposable income, I Never look at a guitar as for it's resale value> I look at guitars as tools, nothing else! I was taught by Ron Wood, to not play the brand, play the guitar! That said my 2 Telecasters, (one MIMin92), and my newest 1 (Made in China), features enough personal pros, to have been made for me, like my own signature version!
About five years ago I bought a ltd F-5E, made in Indonesia. It has the same hardware and electronics as every ltd five string bass, but the craftsmanship of the bass itself still impresses me every time I play it. It was very affordable, even though it looks unaffordable, I have yet to come across a better deal.
I really enjoyed this. I have 2 Harley Bentons and they're great. 1 is the TE-80, the Prince guitar (which did need substantial setup and shimming) and a 5 string HBZ-2005 (which didn't) and they're both amazing. I own other guitars too...2 Ibanez (one chrome JS10th), 2 Fernandes, a Taylor, a Hamer (bass), a Rickenbacker 360, so it's not like I only have cheap guitars as a frame of reference... You really don't have to pay zillions for quality anymore, as long as you have a good guitar tech in your area. Also, love the other guy's accent. He must be from the same area as Ricky Gervais.
it's a good read factfullness.
great video
Very cool video
Do review vid of "factfullness". Will be ordering soon!
Excelente video....saludos respetuoso desde Puerto Rico.
This is so true, I’ve had custom made guitars from China that are masterfully built and absolutely incredible.
another cool video,... neighbor. lol. I'm not finding the 'Links to the cheaper brands' you guys mentioned at the end. uh, am I missing something or do you get -5 for not watching the entire video?? !! lol. thanks brother. rock on!.
Dude seemed really chill. Nice guy
Hey mate, I bought an eart headless after watching your review on them, I am amazed at the quality and playability of the guitar !!! And at the price point !! it’s a fact that the days of Chinese manufacturing being poor quality are long gone.
The customer service is second to none also 🤘👍🏼
Excellent! Thanks for the report.
Don't forget Indonesian made instruments. The guitars are as good as 80s Japanese guitars ☺
Yeah my guitar is made in Indonesia. It's a great guitar!
Ibanez.
Indonesian guitars are far superior than the Chinese ones!
@@konstantingeorgiev7521 Not sure about that. Look at Eastman, Shijie guitars. The Squier classic vibe series. These are top quality guitars. Both countries can make guitars to any price point.
My Japanese,Indonesian, Chinese and made in Mexico guitars are definitely good enough for me. I know a lot of the American made are great quality, but I can't justify paying 5 to 10 times more for a guitar that in a lot of cases looks or plays no better than foreign made. And a lot of people don't understand that the wage and the cost of living can be way lower in these other countries. I imagine the skilled builders and luthiers here are paid a very high wage, as they should be. The cost of living is also very high in most of the US. Then you also have the American manufacturers that pay lower wages, produce a lot of guitars and mark them up to make ridiculous profits. Sure that $5,000 Martin or Taylor sound and look great....but so do the Japanese and Chinese Yamahas and some other brands for a forth or fifth the price.
rest easy mike. much love man.
I've been saying for awhile that we are in the golden age of "cheap" guitars. Never have you been able to get as many features on a guitar as you have been now for a less than premium price. I have two budget guitars that I absolutely love and am incredibly happy with the product. I would never be able to afford a true ES335 , but I could afford my FF338 and I love it just the same. Plus I play it a lot more and a lot "freer" because I'm not afraid to scuff it or ding it or play hard on it.
Thanks Max, for addressing such a crucial and under-discussed topic.
My two favorite guitar dudes! Great interview cats!
Jack - Canada Manly ~'()'~
My nephew's squier is as good as my $1000 guitar from 20 years ago. The good thing is, it's not only the squier brand that does it. I noticed a lot of generic brands have great build quality (you still have to upgrade some hardware - tuners, etc, the usual suspects)
There's the word. The word that Gibson loves so much. Heritage. Oh, the humanity. You're paying for the heritage, which is challenged day and night in a continuous battle.
Oh and I do own a Harley benton fusion pro series 3. With locking trem. Very nice 24 stainless steel frets. Roasted maple neck.
Awesome & mike is awesome !! :)
Great video
What I've learned she needs to take each instrument on its merits I have a Schecter cr6 that I paid $700 for out of Indonesia it is absolutely unbeatable you guitar
This needed to be said. I have guitars made in China that are amazing and have fantastic sutain. I have american craptars too.
I had a protone squier from korea. Loved it. Hated to sell it. Best strat i ever had
I have a $200 made in China Dean Vendetta that is incredible not to mention an epiphone es339 pro and just bought the new 2020 les paul classic worn gold all China made and they are fantastic guitars.
In Australia we have Artist guitars,Oz Harley Benton kind of!! Brilliant guitars.. Bone nuts,alnico,lock tunners,decent fretts and Wilkinson parts..