R Corp. 4th Pack Reindeer Ishmael First Impressions
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- In this video we take a look at our favourite pk Ishmael
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"Ineffective to fatal" would be the dream tank that we aren't going to get
lol i wish
I have mixed feelings on R.Ishmael . Speaking only about her positives, she can fully support her Base E.G.O. by herself, her Skill 1 and Skill 2 are great enough to carry her all by themselves, and she is bare none the best unit in the game at applying a huge amount of Sinking onto any ol' poor bastard. She's strong enough that you could feasibly have her solo the first Floor of the current Mirror Dungeon, and the longer fights that are on offer in the Thread and EXP Excavations allow her the time necessary to actually build and maintain Charge for Mind Whipage. She also has a killer Speed Range of 3-7, which mean on average you can pick and choose who you want to Clash with her without external support from the likes of Yi or Meur.
For her bad, however....her best Skill in Mind Whip might as well be an E.G.O. , given the stringent requirements on using it without risking friendly fire, and she has immense trouble building up the Charge for it given A) Her Skills are poorly optimized for Charge Gain (Mind Strike doesn't even guarantee Charge, and no combo of her S1 and S2 will give you the +10 Charge needed any sooner than Turn 3), B) The Charge Mechanic tickdown per turn actively fights against building up Charge, and C) Mind Whip spends ALL Charge, not just 10, on use, meaning you can't even build up a surplus for the next one. It also makes using her E.G.O. actually a _bad_ thing half the time, since any Skill you're not using to build Charge or immediately spending it on Mind Whip before you drop below 10 Charge is made into a liability, the _last_ thing a Base E.G.O. should be.
Overall, I want to _like_ R. Ishmael, but her inherent design is Player unfriendly at the _best_ of time, which makes using her for me a no-go the vast majority of times.
She's fun but conditional
It's amazing how the simple act of making Charge not tick down would make such a difference for her. Or just giving her Skill 1 charge on use
And yeah. Mind Whip deleting all charge with no upside in return makes it even more detrimental to her playstyle. I often find myself risking the randomness, or just replacing it with EGO, instead of waiting for it to trigger. But, it is probably the only skill in the game that can win any clash and One Shot any non-abnormality foe, due to its absolutely absurd maximum base damage of 80 (The last hit repeats). Unfortunately this means if she chooses to hit a ally, they're dying, either outright, or due to going into Stagger+.
Keeping with the theme of 'this would be really good if the downside didn't outweigh the upside', her passive. Gain 1-2 Strength, at the cost of -15 SP. So you get a -15% chance to get heads on your rolls. This actually weakens her, as even with 2 strength (most will only get one), rolling heads on just one of her coins gives a better result, especially since her Skill 1 needs heads results to be viable.
Ishmael is just the victim of 'great concept, poor execution'. She's a great identity don't get me wrong, but so many minor issues culminate into disaster. All she'd need to be perfect is: Give Skill 1 a guaranteed charge gain, make Mind Whip not consume all charge regardless of amount (at least make it so the consumption happens at greater than 10 charge), and/or lower the SP drain to -10, or increase the strength gain by 1. Or just forgo the strength gain and make it give charge instead. Or keep the SP drain as is and make it give strength AND some charge. Just... one of these things would immediately make playing her feel a lot better.
It also doesn't help that the R-Corp or even the W-Corp identities synergize. A single skill or passive that grants all/other allies a small boost in charge (+1/+2) would honestly go a long way, since I know a lot of the other charge based identities just don't have a adequate method themselves. Especially Meursault. He gains charge by being hit. I think... 2-5 charge generally? And then he loses 1 at the start of the turn. His Skill 3 requires 8 charge to be fully effective, not that the bonus given is worth it, and I have never seen anyone reach that amount in a battle. I wish I was joking but I'm not. If anyone needs a complete rework, it's him.
So her core mechanics is like gacha inside gacha
the true PM experience
0:31 Ineffective to fatal?! This unit is too strong!!!
We all know from chapter 3 that blunt = fatal... until you reach the dungeon
LOL
Thanks for the video! R Corp Ishmael is fun to use. Sometimes I use her solo or duo in some fights to reduce the chances of her hitting teammates. Remember "You can't hit your teammates if you got no teammates!" so either mind your mind whip (lol) or "remove" your teammates!
I am the team
I wish the charge units have better charge capabilities 😔😔😔 Only Don can reliably use her charge effects
Even don is pretty rng
And haste in typical pm fashion is unuseable (except overbreathing, ability of which is bugged) and poise has nearly no payoff, bleed and burn are more of additional dmg than focus rn, bleed is only that strong because cloud cutter and rest of abilities of kuro units roll high
@@aisir3725 Eh, haste is useful
rnjesus
A bit of correction: Mind Whip is *not* unopposed. I have, indeed, lost clashes with it (extreme bad luck), it's just that the likelihood is very low, due to the flips beign high numbered. But yeah, you can lose a clash and not use your Mind Whip. It's a bit of a gamble against strong enemies, but most times you will win against weak ones or weaker attacks.
R Corp Ishmael for me is like a tank/subdps unit, generally can clash against a lot of attacks, but due to the first two skills being kinda like a gamble (the second one does have 6 as base, but the first has a base of 2, very bad at low sanity), she takes a lot of damage. The idea in her teams is to have something like 2 units to win clashes with, and let her hit unopposed foes. Probably not use her as the main dps, but a sub dps. Feels good to use though, 3xgloom is awesome for Hong Lu, and she is overall very powerful in her niche role.
No you're right, it's onluy unopposed if you use it with not enough charge
just make the charge mechanic don't dissipate on end turns(in library of ruina charge don't lower untill you use it) and do some balance changes according to it and charge will be fun mechanic to use and for some characters like w corp faust you can't ever use charge in any meaningfull way
Charge disappearing feels bad
I think if they drop an identity or 2 that can give charge to other units R Ishmael can quickly become a top tier unit. May just be a case of her support isn’t out yet.
Yeah ikr
I personaly have her and she is a staple in most of my comps. I just feel like she is either a late game menice or a advantage pusher.
She is strong if you have a good early game but weak of you have a bad early game.
The team i like to use is as follows: r corp heathcliff, r corp ishmeal, the one who grips faust, n corp rodion, n corp mursault.
I feel that she is like a rolling stone at thr top of a mountain, at first she doesnt do mutch but once she has had the time to get going she just keepa going.
If you struggle with the krommer fight then take her into it (not with the comp above, then you will lose).
You can also clasify her as a boss killer. If the boss has multiple phases then you can realy see her strengths.
To summorize, i think she works much like EGO, something to build around.
8/10 unit for me.
Edit: also to add, i have used the other two as well and i just dont get as good results with them (both at level 30). R corp ishmeal concictenly comes second on the damage chart under either heathcliff or faust so obviously something is going well.
yeah shes got a pretty solid kit but its very niche
@@JohnPanio true. With the new railway mode i've realised that she is a heavy win more character.
This railway is more about rushing down the enemy's. Its too fast for her.
Tbh, i think that if the battle's favour a more slow playstyle that then she will be realy good but for this railway there is only one boss she would be good against if it was not for the boss being ressistant to her types of damage.
The only improvement i could see is either to increase the energy gain of skill 1 or make it a on hit gain charge just like skill 2. It would speed her up massively or it would just give her more consistancy.
Or she just stays like that and they make more bosses that are weak to her type of playstyle.
I have safe 310 fragment for her and I still think. Take cool fire ego or just take 50/50 fun charakter. And probably will take her. Still I will need creater some sink or charge comp ( I have only Faust from charge so this will be little problem, dont count R corp Headcliff ), I now have really strong Bleed team and Tremor team.
tbh, i have no clue if tremor is working or not
@@JohnPanio Me to. i didnt know it... but i hope. i think it work... maybe...
Yay I was waiting for this video, I JUST LOVE Reindeer Ishmael, kinda risky mind whip mechanic but If u know how to use her she is a BEAST just like Don Quixote Rip Space
oh yeah, don is don
I like how everytime you push out content asap very few moments later project moon release things that overwrites or changes up things related to your stuff 😂 The new ego corrosion activation changes things for some egos
yeah sometimes i have a vid just posted and then they drop bombs outa nowhere
2:27 just realized 'gloom res' =/= 'gloom res.' or gloom resources =/= gloom resonance
Oh. So with dot is resonance?
@@Kairax apparently so, r corp ishmael is the only one like this i cant really test it since i dont have her 😢
yea it's confusing
R corp Ishmael is great, I've found her to work really well with W corp Don, N corp Mr Salt, N corp Rodion, and L corp Faust. Now that N corp Faust is out I've put her in that team and its still great. And yes, just yoloing the mind whip is probably the best play in most cases. If you are super worried about blowing up your team with it just have them defend that turn and pray. If a team mate dies to mind whip, then they should have just been less killable lol.
Lol just defend
She doesnt play to win. She doesnt care about hurting her team. She doesnt even care if she dies. She just wants at the top of the damage charts.
Top dps
Are you planning on making your own tier list when you’re done with testing every characters?
Oh yeah, that's the plan
I know people either love her or hate her. I am Neutral cause I don't own her, only can played her on support.
She actually fit my play style because I am more defensive player. As long struggle, I defense. No 10 charge I won't use her. Luckily her Skill 1 & 2 actually not bad. For me As long her coin flip win rates is high I am okay using her without Mind Whip if it is Not Ready. So, I still rate her as Top Tier.
yeah strong but not quite OP
Reindeer Ishmael is the embodied meme of 'do a crime'
Do a crime indeed
If i get mind whip turn one of a fight, i just gamble and use it with 0 charges anyway. if it hits an enemy thats perfect but if it hits an ally i just give up the fight and restart. it costs no stamina to restart and you can get a really high mind whip for free. obviously dont gamble mind whips deep into a fight tho
Gamble hard
I have some trouble getting 10 charge on W corp Don alot of the time when i need it bad so I can imagine ishmael here will be tough to get going. Her skill 1 seems really dumb that it needs to roll heads to get the charge, just way too rng.
It's a tough sell for me compared to her LCCB version. Feel like LCCB version of her is just the best.
Yeah feels very conditional
I love Ishmael, i slap her in a 2 Blood + 2 Burn team and call a day. And use her 3 skill every time just for the lols.
Would be cool to have a reflect skill
Has more kill than the enemies i faced
pvp
Her passive is so bad. She is gaining 5 power but have -45sp every turn and doesnt rolled coins
Pretty much a ego corrosion build, when we get a AoE ego for Ishmael she could try a solo corrosion build
that will be fun