AlphaGo vs. AlphaGo with Michael Redmond 9p: Game 37
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- čas přidán 21. 03. 2020
- In this game, "the attacking side suddenly abandons the attack and sacrifices some stones," says Michael Redmond 9P in his latest AlphaGo game commentary with Chris Garlock. "The attack sort of disappears into thin air." At the same time, the defending side is trying to sacrifice some stones as well, "so it's a very unusual fight," Redmond says, "it wouldn't happen amng human players, I don't think." Oh, "And the endgame gets a bit exciting, too."
NOTE: plans for the 2020 U.S. Go Congress (referred to in this video) are still on track but subject to change depending on developments; please monitor www.gocongress.org/ for the latest Congress news.
Produced by Stephen Hu, Allen Moy, Andrew Jackson and Chris Garlock
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The explanation of the move at B-17 was great for me. I see these tenukis in games and I know they are setups for later use but I don't know what the use would be. This was a clear explanation at a level I could understand.
Wonderful how Michael's comentaries open our minds to understand the Art in these variations
Michael Redmond always makes sense no matter how hard he tries to deal with the impossible and I love him for that.
Brilliant as always! These endgame sequences were really instructive.
Great game, great commentary. Thank you!
What a beautiful game GO is. "Making a life" How perfect that phrase is right? "Having 2 eyes" I like that one too. It's kind of like- you'd better keep your eyes and your options open. I just can't get over how much complexity there is to GO. Layers and layers of it. I get the feeling I could live to 200 years old and never stop learning.
Thanks as always for the game :)
Great content - really enjoyed it thank you.
one advantage (or shortcoming) of chinese counting is that you dont have to agonise over whether you really need to protect a weakness or not. It was interesting to see how the different counting methods impacts on the end game play - but perhaps instead of just observing the differences - maybe we should use the differences as a way of assessing which counting method is best. So for example on the one hand the idea of choosing to fight a half point ko over taking a full point seems to be an extension of the principle of miai. The idea of filling in dame while fighting the ko also has a logic to it in that you are being rewarded for having more ko threats (less weaknesses in your structure) than your opponent - which again is not unreasonable. Regarding early teaching ideas that can stunt your overall progress - I have heard it said that you should never teach a child a mnemonic for the notes of a stave - because it is impossible to use it when playing a piece of music.
August. Somehow I doubt it'll happen. Things are not going to be back to normal by then. I'd at least think about alternatives.
Other than that, thanks for all the work. Love the videos.
Challenging someone to a game- "Hey friend, I've got a board if you've got the stones!"
nice video again!
"You never know with AlphaGo" - Michael Redmond 9p, March 2020
Coronavirus: Im going to take over the world!
Alphago: hold my stones
About the end score, using Chinese or Japanese rules. You can have both methods at the same time, which is quite cute, but a bit time consuming. After rearrranging the territories into easily countable rectangles (Japanese method) one can rearrange the stones for one side into easily countable rectangles too. Without seki points the amount of points for other side is 361 - the stones counted for the one side (kind of Chinese method). It is all truly verifiable. The game in itself is lost, difficult to analyse from the final position. But the final position has some smart cubistic look with rectangles of stones for one side, and empty rectangles for both sides.
Very nice video and impressive sequence in black's territory. I'm wondering why white didn't play P9 and O11 before S14. S14 surely gives away a lot of points compared to T15. Couldn't S14 be play after O11?
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Sorry my english is really bad... but I’m wondering myself if these players are playing without Alphago in the « real life » .... I think it might be addictive to play as an extension of AI.... your own capacity to decide and choose is replace by AI and my comprehension of this way to play looks like to you an artificial «brain » as you will need a feet or a hand, it’s start to become part of you. And you might have a higher esteem of yourself.. but you look like a « handicaper » person who thinks that he doesn’t need any help at all because he’s an accomplished person. In the difference that for an handicaper it’s true but to a Alphago player he’s just accepting a big lie. :-D enjoy this cerebral self-esteem masturabation. I would really have the commentary of a Go player... what is his thought about that and mostly more important : what makes him enjoying the Go game in itself with through human beens ? Thank’s for your precious philosophical thought about that.