ohh man!!! thats my brother from anotha!!!! i gotta go see em in the lab to check out that hsunami in the flesh!!!!!Richard is the man!!!Thank you for posting this and all the other awesome videos!!! the kids got a stroke!!
Upon watching your review, decided to order a kielwood shaft, was looking for a kielwood shaft and was between Hsu and the ob Phoenix I believe. Hsu took the top spot based off the customization factor..I prefer to play with 11.75mm tip and decided to get it at 30" as well. Value his craftsmanship so didn't care about spending extra $
@@XexNobody I love it! Didn’t take long to get use to it either. there is more feedback with this shaft, which i appreciate! decided to get a kamui black medium tip on it. now my main shooting shaft! Hope this helps
Just a suggestion, when you make tests for sound. Don't hit the cueball into a object ball. Any shot you took with a quick hit completely covered the sound of the cue itself. As well, it would. Be neat to see sound tests compared to one another with other cues
You should do a table when it comes to deflection of similar shafts and similarly priced shafts that way people have an idea of where it stands against other shafts in the market
I'm interested in this shaft but the deflection looks significantly higher than the Predators I'm used to. I don't think I can deflet more than .5 inch with any hit or speed. This seems to have about 2" of deflection. The sounds and hit sounds great though. I bought a katana a while back. Loved the hit and feel. Just to much deflections. Sold it. I have a 314.3 vantage and revo 12.4 . Been using the wood mostly.
again a cool video. thumbs up for you. now on wednesday i put a very special trickshot of the week online again. you will surely like it. i wish you a nice week and see you soon.
It doesn't matter really, as long as you have a good stroke/technique and overall equipment is decent enough. None of my $100-300 cues play any better than my $1200+ cues.
Hey when you are putting a lot of spin on the ball how are you addressing the ball, how close are you getting to the cue ball and how far out are you going on the cue ball when you strike the ball?
What wood it makes out of? Maple? Hornbeam? Is wood washed first and then kilned? What resin it stabilised with? Is shaft drilled thru? Is it foam filled?
@@garrettgerard4939 So you say shaft tapering has no effect? What about material, type of wood, spliced, glued, carbon. You say it does not have an effect on Deflection? All of the above will effect the shaft. I'm sure ferule design and weight can have an effect too.
@@nodeal7337 in the end it all comes down to front end mass. material, type of wood or carbon, ferrule, all those thing affect the weight and the lower the from mass the less it deflects. from my experience carbon shafts over 12 mm deflect more than low deflection wood shafts that are 12 mm
It would be nice if you compared givs to other low deflection shafts using that soft medium hard hit test across the table. Also compare with a standard maple shaft
It Sounds super hard in comparison with my predator Z2… but it’s at the end of its life . Searching a new thin shaft. Looks it is not as natural as the Z2. But better then carbon What I tested, no feel at all.
@@TheBilliardCorner I understand that, figured you could do you think try to make that happen or at least get you looking at it. I personally might buy one myself just to see. The thing is it’s a 10mm tip size.
Those look like very forgiving pockets. The tables I play on would spit those shots out and laugh at me. Except when my cue ball gets near a pocket. Then it gets sucked in at the worst time while defying all natural laws of physics. Love the game.
The Billiard Corner Yeah! just curious after watching all your reviews, you’ve tried a lot of cues so was wondering what you have for your own personal use.
Correction kiel wood is not low deflection just more warp resistant... lake wood also known as lake salvage shafts are low deflection not kiel wood... most ppl get that confused thinking kiel wood and lake salvage are the same.... that being said I'm sure you can make kiel wood more low deflection if its 13mm tip but I know mine is 12.75 and not low deflection and Patrick diveney who made mine let me know they are not low deflection when I ordered it just in case that is what I wanted
I use a 12.5mm Diveney Kielwood (Trans-K) shaft and it absolutely is low deflection. I can tell the different between it and my 12.5mm standard maple shaft.
I’ve wondered that when playing with my kw shaft, it doesn’t have as much deflection as a maple but when I really try to spin in the deflection is much more than a low deflection
Your demonstration of deflection is very poor. It is viewable from video that you did not do a parallel shift and that you compensate deflection with cue position.
I did a parallel shift in the demo. If I was really compensating, I could make it go straight to "0". Try doing your own test on camera and you will understand. When you strike the cue ball with near maximum spin, the shaft will flex and move your hand/cue.
@@TheBilliardCorner It looks (if you look the video) that your cue is not parallel with the side of the table before you make contact with the ball. It really looks like you pivoted a cue. If you really did parallel shift, maybe you should try to change camera angle when you do the test. Just a recommendation. I have no doubt that you did a honest test, it just don't look credible in video.
Just rig up a mechanical swing arm specifically for the low deflection test. Not only will it remove human error, it will also deliver a consistent stroke.
Correction: Hsunami shafts can be ordered through Richard with heavier weight.
Price ?
@@koruptorkoksakti9120 Contact Richard for updated pricing.
@KingDamionTM In this video I'm using a Sugartree butt.
@@dbmccoy12 I posted all links to contact Richard in the description.
again a brilliant video. thumbs up for you! on wednesday the trickshot of the week is coming again. let yourself be surprised.
ohh man!!! thats my brother from anotha!!!! i gotta go see em in the lab to check out that hsunami in the flesh!!!!!Richard is the man!!!Thank you for posting this and all the other awesome videos!!! the kids got a stroke!!
Thank you brother!
Excellent review!!!
It'd be pretty cool if you could actually get clips of the manufacturing process of these shafts that you review!
Thanks Edison, great review and video!
Another great review!!
Upon watching your review, decided to order a kielwood shaft, was looking for a kielwood shaft and was between Hsu and the ob Phoenix I believe. Hsu took the top spot based off the customization factor..I prefer to play with 11.75mm tip and decided to get it at 30" as well. Value his craftsmanship so didn't care about spending extra $
Any updates on your shaft purchase?
@@XexNobody I love it! Didn’t take long to get use to it either. there is more feedback with this shaft, which i appreciate! decided to get a kamui black medium tip on it. now my main shooting shaft! Hope this helps
Just a suggestion, when you make tests for sound. Don't hit the cueball into a object ball. Any shot you took with a quick hit completely covered the sound of the cue itself.
As well, it would. Be neat to see sound tests compared to one another with other cues
Great video! May I please ask what the width of your pool room is and if you have to use any shorties?
You should do a table when it comes to deflection of similar shafts and similarly priced shafts that way people have an idea of where it stands against other shafts in the market
great idea!
Good vid..... you should pause the video on the deflection test when the CB is on the scale for just a second or so.
Ahh great idea, will do that with the upcoming shaft videos!
I'm interested in this shaft but the deflection looks significantly higher than the Predators I'm used to. I don't think I can deflet more than .5 inch with any hit or speed. This seems to have about 2" of deflection. The sounds and hit sounds great though. I bought a katana a while back. Loved the hit and feel. Just to much deflections. Sold it. I have a 314.3 vantage and revo 12.4 . Been using the wood mostly.
again a cool video. thumbs up for you. now on wednesday i put a very special trickshot of the week online again. you will surely like it. i wish you a nice week and see you soon.
Have you done the natural pivot length test and if so what is the number. This would have been a more meaningful deflection measurement.
I would really love if you could get your hands on a Mcdermott Defy shaft. Considering buying one but have heard many reviews.
I sent Mcdermott a message but unfortunately received no reply.
Great shaft!
Can you do a video about cheap vs expensive cue? Would like to hear your opinion on it. Good video btw
Yes, thanks for the suggestion.
It doesn't matter really, as long as you have a good stroke/technique and overall equipment is decent enough. None of my $100-300 cues play any better than my $1200+ cues.
Hey when you are putting a lot of spin on the ball how are you addressing the ball, how close are you getting to the cue ball and how far out are you going on the cue ball when you strike the ball?
What is the Tip Size on you’re shaft. ?12-75mm
Thanks for reminding me about this video. Do you have any clue if these come close to the Phoenix shafts by OB?
Yes they are. Richard's quality is top notch as he's super detailed oriented. The hit is fantastic and offers very low deflection.
What wood it makes out of? Maple? Hornbeam? Is wood washed first and then kilned? What resin it stabilised with? Is shaft drilled thru? Is it foam filled?
Contact Richard for more info.
nice wood color, sound is similar to my mezz wx700
Love the Wx700, one of my favorite mezz shafts.
Great video. Can they be used for breaking?
Yes but I would recommend using a break cue instead.
Looks like the tapering is straight and the shaft quite thick. That explains the sound (vibration of the wood ) and low deflection, thick and stiff.
Front end mass causes low deflection not stiff and thick....
@@garrettgerard4939 So you say shaft tapering has no effect? What about material, type of wood, spliced, glued, carbon. You say it does not have an effect on Deflection?
All of the above will effect the shaft. I'm sure ferule design and weight can have an effect too.
@@nodeal7337 in the end it all comes down to front end mass. material, type of wood or carbon, ferrule, all those thing affect the weight and the lower the from mass the less it deflects. from my experience carbon shafts over 12 mm deflect more than low deflection wood shafts that are 12 mm
It would be nice if you compared givs to other low deflection shafts using that soft medium hard hit test across the table. Also compare with a standard maple shaft
Honestly I've thought about doing it. But whenever I compare products, people criticize that I'm biased or doing it wrong. So I just don't anymore.
Hey when you order the shaft. When the option for the ferrule came up. Which one did you pick?
Vault plate (ferrule-less)
spot on
looks like roasted maple like they for guitar necks and fretboards very interesting to see something like that in cue shafts.
Sure is
It Sounds super hard in comparison with my predator Z2… but it’s at the end of its life . Searching a new thin shaft.
Looks it is not as natural as the Z2. But better then carbon What I tested, no feel at all.
Looks interesting. Do you know of any pros that are backing this?
Many pros are sponsored with $$ to use certain equipment.
I'm pretty sure that Justin Bergman is currently shooting with a Diveney kielwood shaft.
What tip are you using in this demonstration? Thanks
Precision Soft
When you did the deflection test with 3 tips. Did you use front hand or back hand english?
All my test is done with front hand English. If I did back hand English, it would go straight to 0 and have no deflection.
It was a beautiful shaft.
indeed
What shaft is better this or the lambros LD shaft
Depends what you like
Could you check out Go Customs new Zero Deflection shaft? He claims it to be “0 Deflection”
Sounds interesting, not much I can do without testing though.
@@TheBilliardCorner I understand that, figured you could do you think try to make that happen or at least get you looking at it. I personally might buy one myself just to see. The thing is it’s a 10mm tip size.
there is no such thing as zero deflection. it is impossible
Essentially you converted into a carbon shaft Will you remove all of the water that's all you have left.
Those look like very forgiving pockets. The tables I play on would spit those shots out and laugh at me. Except when my cue ball gets near a pocket. Then it gets sucked in at the worst time while defying all natural laws of physics. Love the game.
Gotta love it, all the little things like that make you just wanna revert to the old days and start spear chucking 😂😂
Sugar was removed from the shaft ?
Made from maple, so contains sap
The sugars weren't removed, they were converted to other compounds.
How about tip that matches to this shaft?
Kamui black or Caiden soft works great
How hsunami shaft to order im from philippines how much the shaft
Message Richard for pricing:
facebook.com/Hsucustomcues
www.rjhcustomcues.com/
Hard or Soft Tip On Shaft?
Precision soft
👍🏼
How to order sir
Contact Richard to place a custom order:
facebook.com/Hsucustomcues
www.rjhcustomcues.com/
do a what’s in the case!
Great idea!
The Billiard Corner Yeah! just curious after watching all your reviews, you’ve tried a lot of cues so was wondering what you have for your own personal use.
Where are the chaaaaalllkkksssss man 😂😂😂👍
Editing right now :)
That's a 9' table right?
7 ft Diamond
@@TheBilliardCorner OK, good. I thought my stroke was slipping a bit.... But It ain't! 😏
Correction kiel wood is not low deflection just more warp resistant... lake wood also known as lake salvage shafts are low deflection not kiel wood... most ppl get that confused thinking kiel wood and lake salvage are the same.... that being said I'm sure you can make kiel wood more low deflection if its 13mm tip but I know mine is 12.75 and not low deflection and Patrick diveney who made mine let me know they are not low deflection when I ordered it just in case that is what I wanted
I use a 12.5mm Diveney Kielwood (Trans-K) shaft and it absolutely is low deflection. I can tell the different between it and my 12.5mm standard maple shaft.
I agree, the low deflection probably comes from the construction technique i.e. the pie shaped wedges, not the keilwood.
I’ve wondered that when playing with my kw shaft, it doesn’t have as much deflection as a maple but when I really try to spin in the deflection is much more than a low deflection
What's the specs of the shaft?
Can be ordered with whatever specs you want. The shaft specs shown in this video is in the description.
@@TheBilliardCorner ok thanks. I didn't see it.
@@bryannall1981 No problem :)
Hmm for sure sounds different from normal wood shaft.
too much deflection..wow 2 inch
That's what she said
First
Not all kielwood shafts play the same . Check ok the ss360 kielwood shaft..
Hy im from indonesia and i love pool
Can you review play carbon shaft fury but no one else review
Thanks sorry my bad english sir
Thanks for the support. If I get my hands on a Carbon Fury shaft I'll review it for ya.
@@TheBilliardCorner yeyyyyyy thankss god bless you and family aminnn
@@edwinphang8647 Thanks brother
Make a trick shot
nah
Sounds like cheap bongo.
Nope, sounds great in person. A very deep and rich hit.
I was going to sample the sound and make a beat lol
Your demonstration of deflection is very poor. It is viewable from video that you did not do a parallel shift and that you compensate deflection with cue position.
I did a parallel shift in the demo. If I was really compensating, I could make it go straight to "0". Try doing your own test on camera and you will understand. When you strike the cue ball with near maximum spin, the shaft will flex and move your hand/cue.
@@TheBilliardCorner It looks (if you look the video) that your cue is not parallel with the side of the table before you make contact with the ball. It really looks like you pivoted a cue. If you really did parallel shift, maybe you should try to change camera angle when you do the test. Just a recommendation. I have no doubt that you did a honest test, it just don't look credible in video.
Just rig up a mechanical swing arm specifically for the low deflection test. Not only will it remove human error, it will also deliver a consistent stroke.
Hi...
Can you tell me how it's low deflection if it deflects 1, 1.5 and 2 inches with the more power you use?
Thank you.
Test a normal solid shaft and you will see