SETI: "We detected no signals whatsoever." Omuamua Captain: (earlier) "Strict radio silence crew, these Earthlings are crazy. Once we're past their neighborhood...Step on it and Gtfo"
SETI, " Why can't we hear anything from that object "? Ham radio guy " cause you have a big dish antenna pointed at the sun and all the radio frequencies are buried in noise".
@@Mr11ESSE111 Scientists of course understand that that alien civilisations (if they exist) very well could be using some other uknown means of communication. Unfortunately we can only look for stuff that we can actually see. Much like a renaissance scientist could not observe radio waves and lacked the theoretical frameworks needed to even understand it, extraterrestrial civilisations could be invisible to us. This does not mean that SETI scientists are stupid, in fact they know very well what they are doing. That is using the technology we do have to either rule out or confirm the stuff that we can see. That why SETI says there are no nearby "radio-communicative civilisations" rather than no nearby civilisations. The distinction is important. But we also as of yet do not have any reason to believe there are any nearby civilisations at all. Tl;DR We lack the evidence to confirm or deny the presence of aliens. Extraordinary claims demands extraordinary evidence.
@@hamstsorkxxor bruh, "extraordinary evidence"?!? let me break this down for you 1 its the first ever detected interstellar object passing through our solar system 2 it does not emit any dust of gas at all, and trust me we looked at that thing with everything we have and it didn't emit anything 3 it is *10 times* more reflective/shinny then any other asteroid we have seen 4 (and this is the real kicker) it slightly (but definitely) *accelerated* , *ACCELERATED* , away from the sun, without emitting any dust or gas i ask you, what more evidence could we even gather about it to say that its alien or not?
Quite ignorant if you ask me. We only got to this point (technology) because of how our planet works and what material it’s made of. And since we can’t communicate far into the universe, why would another form of life be able to do that? And maybe they use forms of communication that we can’t identify (yet?). Edit: I misread the quote where I thought it said “why there isn’t intelligent life”.
Or more likely, given intelligent life does exist, it is "unmanned" deep space machinery (EMV?) of which origin and "purpose" we currently living humans will never understand. 'Ring Makers of Saturn'
"there is no radio sygnals" from this dead probe "it accelerated a bit" as reminants of fuel outgassed as it heated up. "Oh well... now we can't go after it."
@@cola98765 I believe that robotic probes are the only way humans will ever contact other intelligent life somewhere far away from us. Our soft little bodies would never survive the millions of years it takes to send a spacecraft from our system to another. Like some living robotic AI perhaps.
There are 3 types of comments in this chat. 1. “We have no idea what this object looks like.” 2. “It’s an alien ship.” 3. Completely whacked out people
And to think people normally get excited bringing a carved piece of wood or stone half way around the Earth as being something substantial. Shows just how small we are in the grand scheme of things.
Taking into consideration that the universe is gigantic it has certainly spent most of his existence without absolutely anything near, so it isn't of much interest
"If they attack the car save the radio" what movie? I know they went comms silent asap.. Captain even halted taco Tuesday... we're a Freakin' scary cancer..here on Earth.. eww I got negative
@@StoutProper No. It was apparently as reflective as metal and cylindrical or saucer/pancaked shaped. Other than that we know almost nothing about this object.
From its general shape and proportions its likely not an asteroid anyway. Its shape, size and high albedo suggest perhaps it could indeed be a vessel of some kind, even if abandoned. We'd be arrogant to discount that possibility. Its rotation will create centrifugal force as the equivalent of a G field for any lifeforms. We'd use rotation in just the same way. If its high reflectivity was due to ice then it would have developed a coma, so that's hard to explain. As is its non-gravitational acceleration. I'm inclined to agree with Hawking though - better we don't get any 'visitors'.
"Block their scans, accelerate once we're beyind their range." "Aye, sir." "Lets capture this specicies entertainment streams for future analysis." "Aye, sir."
What's kind of scary is astronomers only discovered Oumuamua when it was leaving our solar system. If it had been heading directly for us we wouldn't have had much warning.
The number of astronomers and usable observatories has dramatically decreased in the last decade or so. Many astronomers have mysteriously had accidents or committed suicide, and many others have willingly given up the profession. Things that make you go "hmmmm....". BTW, I'm talking about dozens of astronomers here, not just a few.
It is truly frightening .This is what happens when you defund scientific research and put all your money towards the military and invading other countries . We're a sitting target .
The thing is, given the low mass of Oumuamua, it can't capture the craft with its gravity. So in order to soft-land on it, you'd need to go to pretty much the same speed & orbit... at which point you have created your own interstellar traveler and the asteroid itself becomes irrelevant (unless you want to study the object itself of course).
Alien generational ship: we've tried all quantum resonance frequencies, this aquatic planet doesn't seem to have advance civilizations, lets try the outer planets. (signal detected)
I feel awe when I think about all the interstellar objects travelling in space. I wonder about the sights that they must have seen over those millions or billions of years
And to think that what we see isn't their current state or condition, but them several billion years ago. We are way too far and our info is too 'behind'.
Probably has been flying towards the Sun for billions of years. So, it has probably seen nothing but blackness with a pin point light of the Sun getting bigger and bigger over millions of years. Our Solar system was the most action this rock has ever seen.
I can't relate to that. I can only relate to moons and pizza pies hitting my eyeballs because that is a very common occurrence, man that just happens 2 or 3 times a night on average. Well I'm off to go do some more LSD now, I'm starting to come down and I can't have that.
Exciting. I actually observed Hyakutake in 94 or 95. It was so close to the Earth and moving so fast, you could see it moving in the binoculars. Very cool to think I had seen an extrasolar object.
that's actually an artistic rendition, probably deliberately made not to look alien but to fit data as much as possible. we don't actually have photographs of it, we don't even know its exact shape. this is even mentioned in this video. nobody wants to say it, but this was a major fail from the higher ups in the astronomic society. there was plenty of time (nearly a full year), numerous pleas to several important projects and observatories were made, and all of them rejected until it was too late.
"no radio signals were detected" what makes them think aliens use radio? That's an extremely inefficient way of communication for intersteller travel. The stupidity of very intelligent people is astounding.
I read from the Harvard astronomy prof that Omoumoua was actually 'relatively' stationary and that the solar system 'bumped into it.' - which, if true, is interesting. I think the data is unusual enough that we need to keep an open mind.
that would explain it accelerating once it passed by the sun - or more correctly once the sun went passed it - gravity pulled it "down" towards the sun and then slingshot it as the sun got to the other side of it
Actually, passing through it is super easy, barely an inconvenience. The comets are absurdly far apart (so much so, that we've only seen one directly - the existence of the whole cloud is theoretical, not observed)
Jeff Benton is right, but it is interesting to note that even the ridiculously tiny amounts of dust in interstellar space are enough to pose a significant hazard to spacecraft traveling a significant fraction of the speed of light. It seems unlikely that dust in our Solar System's Oort cloud would be any harder to deal with than what aliens would have to deal with in many other parts of space, such as leaving their own star system, though. Also, even if you explained why aliens don't show up IN our solar system, that would still leave questions like why we can't see any Dyson spheres or radio signals.
According to the site, the Roadster is now 215.6 million miles from Earth and is traveling at a speed of more than 6,000 miles per hour. Interestingly, the Roadster is closest to Mars right now, at a distance of 96.1 million miles. The Roadster is in an orbit that appears to be on a path back toward Earth. - 6 Feb 2020 Plot twist: Car picks up enough momentum & velocity and slams into earth, causing our own mass extinction.
What if lands into another planet's ocean and eventually that planet builds ships with the Tesla logo on it and visit us to say thank you for the idea lol.
if you like his voice there is another space and astronomy page that is narrated by someone with a great voice to listen to. it's called SEA. all space stuff. between the two channels, i could listen to them all the time. SEA is defiantly worth the check out.
The universe is so big we can't even begin to see all of it. After a certain point the light gets so redshifted we can't make anything out. We have to use gravitational lensing to see even the tiniest bit further. Just realize that a, "light year" isn't a measure of time, but distance. Like a mile or kilometer.
@@VeggiePun then realize light travels roughly 160,000 miles over 1 second and there's approximately a shitload of seconds a year. Times that by 14 billion lol. The distances are just unimaginable. We've made it to the moon "allegedly" lol. There has Gotta be lots of interesting places out there!
The solar system ends when you're far enough away that the gravity of other things keep you from maintaining an orbit of the solar system. As the nearest other star is 4.3 light years away currently, that means you could say anything within 2 light years is the solar system, but of course if anything is that far out, it's in danger of parting with the solar system if anything temporarily gets closer, which happens.
They were coming to pick up Zuckerberg to take him home... but then they saw he'd violated his parole by creating Facebook. So they left him on this prison planet for all the wretched scum and villainy of the universe! ;D
Our solar system is about 5 billion years old, and we have only been looking somewhat closely for a few decades. So I would say that there are things out there that are weirder by 8 orders of magnitude.
Oumuamua could be a fragment of an ancient starship crash of a MASSIVE scale. Like a starship thats 2x as big as the sun and another starship of similar size crashed a millennia ago and it’s just now that we witnessed a part of it. Overtime it bumping and hitting other asteroids has caused it to be shaped more like an asteroid/comet I mean it explains the shininess of it, The lack of radio signals, and the elongated shape.
@@oumuamuatoday5761 Great! That would imply that Oumuamua is just the baking foil some aliens have used for a picnic to bake a cookie by a star. A techno signature!
problem with that is that at some point we'd no longer be able to see what's going on. the camera would lose connection to the planet purely because of how far away it is. it wouldn't even take that long. though, it would give us some unique viewpoints of our own solar system, beyond that it would supply us with no new information.
Engineers have been trying to do this since the voyager, lag and connectivity tend to be a bit of an issue when dealing with trillions of miles worth of distance though
@@Japed well what about setting up relay stations throughout the solar system to boost signals? And then building something that can go dormant for veeeeery long periods of time and activate again as they get closer to the sun?
Most people would be glad to see a world ending asteroid coming in. You better believe that if it was a ship then we would all be super stoked! Even if they were coming to enslave us, it couldn't be worse then our current evil leader's enslavement.
@@bozo5632 i just think that if you could send interstellar or possibly intergalactic probes that you would not be waiting for radio waves. There is likely a better way to send data closer to the speed of light i would imagine. It would be like checking an asteroid for signs of smoke signals 500 years ago 😂 It is worth a listen by the way. The only issue i have is that the narator made it sound like lack of radio waves disproved that it was extraterrestrial
@@chomes8048 I agree that the narrator confused the issue, talking about radio. Radio does travel at the speed of light though. Radio is the same stuff as light, just with longer wavelengths. Even if you send a probe to another star or galaxy, you still have to wait for the results to arrive by radio or laser at light speed. Plus you have to wait for the probe to get there at much less than light speed. Radio SETI was always a longshot, but it was just about the only shot we had available. It depends on aliens deliberately blasting a powerful signal directly at us. We couldn't detect anything weaker. (We could only detect a civ like our own at about 100 light years - right on our doorstep.) It was worth a try, and it still is - our receivers are getting bigger and better.
@@bozo5632 That's very interesting about the radio speed. My mistake. You appear to know a lot more about the issue than me. I will go and learn some basics of radio as my next topic 😁. Thanks for the info mate.
@ShaunDoesMusic True but confusing. Light travels at different speeds through different materials. It can actually move very slowly through some things. Light moves faster in air than in water, for instance. The maximum speed in a perfect vacuum, for anything, is close to 300,000 km/sec or 186,000 miles/sec. We lazily call that "the speed of light," which is mostly okay, but technically it has nothing to do with light. Light and radio are exactly the same thing - electromagnetic radiation - and travel at the same speed in a vacuum.
Exactly. We would be like wildlife to them. They probably wouldn't have any reason to make contact with us after a quick observation. They would probably realize the risk to our civilization would outweigh any reward for theirs. Observe but not interfere would be the most likely protocol.
But radio signals are invisible and fast and capable of carrying a lot of information. Starlink is at least 150 megabits per second downlink, for example. And WiFi routers with yagi attachments at 802.11ac are capable of much higher throughputs. Is there something you think prevents us from scanning for radio signals as well as using any other methods that might be conceived ... at the same time? And have you considered that aliens might not be more advanced than us in every way?
@@AxionSmurf Yeah, it isn't so much about being advanced as it is about being different. It'd be like two different technologies trying to communicate. Like using a cell phone to talk to a cb radio. Excellent question posed at the end, I wonder what alien culture would look like. Would they have a form of music? What would their senses even be like?So many mind blowing possibilities.
@@7n154 Those are the questions, aren't they? Would they even have a comparable form of sentience to ours? Would they percieve time like we do or would they "tick" faster (like flies) or slower? If their senses, forms of manipulation, and native environments were sufficiently different to ours, their technology would likely start from a completely different baseline and develop along very differnt paths to ours. Then there's their lifespan - they may live longer or effectively be immortal (to our understanding), or they may only be "alive" for certain periods, or they may have very short lifespans but knowledge and memory may pass down to their "descendents", if you could even call them that.
I think there's probably some galactic formation where they've decided to only observe young evolving civilizations and not to let themselves be known because it would interfere with our natural course and evolution. It would cause mass panic and hysteria. They try to make sure we don't put ourselves into extinction though. Like with the events in ww2 when aliens were known to interfere and disable our nucular bombs. Ive seen a ufo watching me with my own eyes. When they knew they were noticed by me they took off at light speed, could have also been a goverment ship, pretty sure they have reverse engineered craft.
This is why Avi Loeb's theories should be given more credence. He theorizes it may have been something like an extraterrestrial solar sail that may be just 1 of many 'markers'. He showed that from a different frame of reference, Oumuamua was not going super fast, but instead going so slow that it was 'standing still' compared to the speed of the sun and solar system. Meaning this object and objects like it could form something like a grid in this area of our galaxy. I really hope we are able to test and see whether or not this is true!
They’re the cigar shaped/ tic tac crafts. They’ve been prevalent in our world’s history and culture since the dawn of mankind. Led Zeppelin even refers to them in their album artwork and music. Another public example Is when the USS Trepang came into contact with these crafts in 1971 while stationed in Antarctica.
7:30 give me a break with SETI, why would it use radio communication if it was really an interstellar traveller, or more likely, a since long dead husk or relic? That's like listening to a rusted oil tanker underwater, and upon NOT receiving any radio signals encoding the Fibernaci sequence, conclude "it must have just been a rock formation". It just boggles the mind sometimes how quick we are to dismiss something on the basis of extremely narrow datapoints.
One of the *best speakers* online. Wisdom and thoughtfulness - with a splendid voice, accent and measured speech. Thank you, Alex. You are very much a class act.
"SETI listened for radio signals." Yes because we know for absolute certain that an interstellar species who is by raw probability drastically different from us, and who has cracked the puzzle of interstellar travel, must absolutely use radio signals in their technology. There is absolutely no way they could have developed more advanced signal radiation.
Imagine if Oumuamua was a damaged spaceship that had lost all communication abilities and was just tumbling with its crew on board. The acceleration was their last ditch effort to get home by using the last of their fuel and our suns gravity.
Spinning would create a gravity of sorts, for the creature who:may be in hibernation on a long journey, disguised as shown, cloaked,to us. But could be in transit to anywhere, needed a catapult from Earth gravity to get re aligned with their target destination.
@@mtbmadman187 Doppler effects only happens with very very massive objects like Jupiter because it has alot of mass it's basically like a seesaw but one end is very long an the other is very short and put a very heavy object on the short end and put a light object on the long end until it's stable then you spin the seesaw and there is your Doppler effect
So is accelerating at the point of grav assist without making a tail. But now they try to fabricate new theories on how a rock might be able to do that.
@@jerk1921 Attempting to explain a thing that we fail to currently understand is the best way to propel science forward and thus bring us closer to the actual full discovery of alien life. If we just assume it's aliens and don't even attempt to rule out aliens, then we'll never get anywhere.
It is a planet. Dwarf planets are still planets. That's why that whole change was so stupid. Dwarf=Small . Pluto is a small planet. No one would argue with that.
Oumuamua is an out of control space ship that partially became active upon entering our solar system and turned on the after burners to leave the system faster than it came in. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
When two hard, sphere shaped objects collide, they splinter into pieces that look just like this. This is nothing more than just that... a natural phenomena
Except for the fact that his object was interstellar, and traveling much faster than an object of its size should be traveling if caused by a planetoid collision. Who knows though
Did Oumuamua really have velocity, or did we simply pass by it? After all, our solar system is moving at quite incredible velocity. I've heard the argument that Oumuamua was actually stationary.
I love your films, Alex, but this one is truly mind blowing. I could never have imagined that objects in our own solar system could be influenced to such a degree by stars which ae light years away. .
Oumuamua was an intergalactic bouy waiting for a system to come along and give it a nudge. That system happened to be Sol and we were visited as a result. It's velocity is much less than it would be if had been ejected previously by another star system. All of the neighboring systems in our local group are traveling close to the same velocity, which makes sense if they came from the same interstellar nursery (which they probably did). This object was moving much slower in relation to that velocity until Sol nudged it. Ari Loeb talks about this in various pod casts. In fact he predicted that if it were truly alien in nature we should be finding them all over the place. The fact that we only found one is a detractor to the alien theory, but now that we have potentially found more it seems Ari Loeb's hypothesis was proven out. Also, Ari Loeb doesn't believe it's cigar shaped as every rendition depicts. He believes it was pancake shaped. The data we have on the object supports either configuration, but someone sent out an early rendition of the cigar shape and that has stuck ever since.
Maybe the Ets build their ships out of asteroids? It makes a lot sense, if they want to explore unnoticed by others. Also it might explain why can not find them.
There's sci fi stories , also theory or postulation about humanity doing exactly that for itself to reach the stars, , generational or Ark ships, based or built inside hollowed out asteroids ..
Maybe, but those would have to be *extremely* patient aliens. Oumuamua is traveling at a speed of 196,000 miles per hour. That's fast by earthly standards, but it's still going a tiny fraction of the speed of light, which is 186,000 miles per second. It would take hundreds of thousands to millions of years to reach another star. Sure, one can fantasize about aliens frozen in suspended animation for those vast stretches of time waiting until their spacecraft enters a solar system, but then one has to wonder why its navigational computer didn't detect Earth as a suitable world? I also kind of hope that technologically advanced aliens would have developed a much more efficient means of travel such as a warp drive so aliens could move around the galaxy much faster than the travel time a generational or Ark ship would require.
Building a ship into the interior of an asteroid would provide radiation shielding and a ready supply of raw materials, aside from being a good means of stealth and misdirection to avoid detection, but this object moved too slowly to take all that seriously as an actual spacecraft of any kind. The amount of time it would've drifted before even reaching us makes it that much harder to seriously believe it was an alien craft. Unless, of course, they were moving much faster but then decelerated dramatically before even entering our system and being detected.
I've always thought that if interstellar species do exist they probably found a way to move their whole planet or planets. That would seem to be the most efficient way to make trips that could take literally millions of years.
Why not you my dude? I think it's a cool idea. I don't think people would be informed enough to buy it and market it unfortunately but it's a cool idea. Just patent the idea and make this video go viral somehow and you've got it made! I'll help if you cut me in on the profits ;)
Sort of like a squirrel scratching at the door "let me in, I want to be a human now". "Haha, look at the cute squirrel", then close the door in your face.
When I see good photos of the galactic plane or images filled with countless galaxies totally filling up the frame and I realize that although they appear to be so many they are so incredibly far apart for us and we can never get to any of them, I think god I need some Doritos and some brownies, some big red soda and... I think it’s incredible.
We probably would have seen something like that. At least, I like to think observatories and amateur astronomers wouldn't miss an engine lighting up nearby. Depends on the power source, I suppose.
If the did escape the solar system then oumoamua would accelerate way faster but instead it slowed down from the sun's gravity so you might be wrong also where would the fuel would come from you need an enormous amounts of power to move this thing at 78.000 kmh
I watched a documentary on this before. That is actually a spaceship from the whale species making its round to ensure the whales are doing okay. When the ship couldn't communicate with the humpbacks it started to evaporate the oceans in order to investigate the disappearance without regard to the other forms of terrestrial life. That's when Captain Kirk and his crew had to slingshot around the Sun to go back in time to when the whales were alive and bring one back to the future and save the day. True story.
I agree! Gotta be careful though... Having a non-existent atmosphere is good for telescopes, but also good for literally any-size asteroid. A tiny little basalt bullet may fuck up billions of dollars of equipment.
@@BadAssEngineering That's a good point, but NASA probably tracks and pre-plans the orbits/paths of as much debris as it can from it's launches to make sure nothing can harm Hubble.
So, but imagine if Oumuamua WAS ACTUALY a alien craft ship. Like we detect some sort of short repeated signal, presumably some sort of sos, and it was also tumbling like real Oumuamua. So we would know it was alien, but we would not be able to capture or do anything, it would just pass by us, as we look to the sky imagining what kind of technology that ship holds
yup, they look for incidental radio emissions, CW, or analog modulated radio signals. Advanced civilizations likely use a form of digital spread spectrum , or perhaps a combination of spread spectrum and use quantum entanglement to broadcast despreading information (like with direct sequence spread spectrum systems using A-priori receivers). Without knowing anything about the signal (PN spreading , coding and so forth), any radio transmission will look like noise at best. Noise is uncorrelated so no way to tell if there is any radio signal or radio emissions from long distances. Note, Quantum Entanglement requires the sender and the receiver to be in possession of entangled systems. anyway, something I have been wondering about for a long time. I see other comments along the same lines.
Avi loeb was the scientist that went with the explanation of this object being et. He's the harvard's top professor which he put out the possibility this might be of extraterrestrial origin. The way he put it together was, the object was the first of its kind to be spotted to come out of solar system(there are a lot of object and i mean a lot of object that revolves aroud our sun and that is considered to be our solarsystem family). -The object did not have any tail whatsoever and even using an infrared telescope(guess 😄) to view any sign of tail possibly because it may not be ice and might have some element we dont know about on its surface. And that was a failure too -If the material it was burning was invisible to our eye, the weight should have been another factor to spot it by. Since a comet loses a lot of weight(im guessing 10%) when forming a tail. We didnt see any. -The way this object moved was sus. And it was near to earth before it turned and blasted off which we found out later that the speed was significatly different from an average comet or object. And we took very long to spot it and we possibly couldnt have send in a rocket to chrck onit because the speed it was flying off by was unmatched by any vehical we have. -The theory of this professor was may be this object is possibly an abandoned ship or broked part of an actual ship which uses light as the means of its puopulsion which is called light sail and we actually are in queue to be using that technology for our own space exploration. He also said that scientist should behave a lot like kids meaning that they should takle problems without thinking wholeheardly of the drawbacks. Science should always have an openmindness about possibilities and we should care about us as a human species and not because of some medal or paper you get to hang on your wall becajse you decide to only tackle something that you feel confident about. Oops too long of a comment. Byee 😃
I suspect that when they found out that Biden "won" the election, their planned touchdown on the White House lawn was cancelled. That's why it accelerated away.
So Avi Loeb sensationalized the Omuamua discovery as a unique and possibly "alien" visitor when this appear to be a pretty common occurence in our solar system. The only thing holding us back is our ability to detect these objects to register and study them. I think the less speculative explanation is actually far more interesting as it demonstrates the dynamic relationship between our solar system and the other galactic bodies and phenomena. I find it similarly fascinating to the history evolution that doesn't teach us that were insignificant, but rather quite unique and extraordinary given the necessary steps to end up in an unlikely place just like Omuamua and countless other extrasolar bodies.
If there be interstellar wars, it would travel radio-silent and use gravity assist for speed; doing power-assist trajectory corrections only when near a massive object to help hide its power output. Hmmmm, matches what we observe...
@Hunter Smith The name of the Harvard professor is Avi Loeb and he has just come out with a new book titled Extraterrestrial: The First Sign of Intelligent Life Beyond Earth where he makes this claim. A Wikipedia article about this book provides numerous references and links to more reliable sources.
Those types of objects are more comon than we think. Those space rocks are all over the Milkyway. The only reason why we now seem to discover a bunch of them is because of better equipment. They're for most parts small enough and quite fast making discovery very tricky. They're also rare enough so that close encounters with Earth is is also very rare.
Possible probe to see if Terrans were capable of quick space deployment and travel. Doesn't mean it didn't collect valuable information during its transition to be transmitted once clear of sensor technology. We'll never know unless it decides to return.
There are some people speculating wether Sedna might be a captured dwarf planet since it's orbit is extremely elliptical and it can max out at 937 AU at its farthest point. It also takes 11,400 years to do a full orbit which is way longer than pluto at 248 years. but it's probably unlikely since it has a similar composition to other objects in the Kuiper Belt and the Inner Oort cloud.
SETI: "We detected no signals whatsoever."
Omuamua Captain: (earlier) "Strict radio silence crew, these Earthlings are crazy. Once we're past their neighborhood...Step on it and Gtfo"
SETI, " Why can't we hear anything from that object "? Ham radio guy " cause you have a big dish antenna pointed at the sun and all the radio frequencies are buried in noise".
SETI:we don't hear/catch radio signals!! Aliens: because we "use" fackn radio signals just like you stupid assholes use smoke signals
@@Mr11ESSE111
Scientists of course understand that that alien civilisations (if they exist) very well could be using some other uknown means of communication. Unfortunately we can only look for stuff that we can actually see. Much like a renaissance scientist could not observe radio waves and lacked the theoretical frameworks needed to even understand it, extraterrestrial civilisations could be invisible to us.
This does not mean that SETI scientists are stupid, in fact they know very well what they are doing. That is using the technology we do have to either rule out or confirm the stuff that we can see.
That why SETI says there are no nearby "radio-communicative civilisations" rather than no nearby civilisations. The distinction is important.
But we also as of yet do not have any reason to believe there are any nearby civilisations at all.
Tl;DR
We lack the evidence to confirm or deny the presence of aliens. Extraordinary claims demands extraordinary evidence.
"Engineering, did you remember to do a Tail Light Kill Switch ??? "
@@hamstsorkxxor bruh, "extraordinary evidence"?!? let me break this down for you
1 its the first ever detected interstellar object passing through our solar system
2 it does not emit any dust of gas at all, and trust me we looked at that thing with everything we have and it didn't emit anything
3 it is *10 times* more reflective/shinny then any other asteroid we have seen
4 (and this is the real kicker) it slightly (but definitely) *accelerated* , *ACCELERATED* , away from the sun, without emitting any dust or gas
i ask you, what more evidence could we even gather about it to say that its alien or not?
"I think the surest sign that there's intelligent life in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us."
-- Bill Watterson
Calvin & Hobbes
Awesome! Best quote EVER! Thank You please keep educating us through your comments
Seriously
Another one is, There is either life that doesn't want to be seen or there is none to be seen.
Quite ignorant if you ask me. We only got to this point (technology) because of how our planet works and what material it’s made of. And since we can’t communicate far into the universe, why would another form of life be able to do that? And maybe they use forms of communication that we can’t identify (yet?).
Edit: I misread the quote where I thought it said “why there isn’t intelligent life”.
@@GinoNL you assume other life forms are like us and want to communicate with us. Just because they can doesn’t mean they will.
The dark forest theory of the Fermi Paradox is one I like, combined with rare intelligence
SETI: "We detected no signals whatsoever."
They could be dead like an interstellar ghost ship forever silently tumbling through the universe.
And no sos signals whatsoever? Naaaah
or....hear me out....it's a rock. The end
Or more likely, given intelligent life does exist, it is "unmanned" deep space machinery (EMV?) of which origin and "purpose" we currently living humans will never understand.
'Ring Makers of Saturn'
@@DeltaPi314 maybe energie has run out.
why would all life in the universe be limited to the use of radio waves. maybe they were in cryosleep as they passed by lol
Since we'll never know, I'll go with Oumuamua being an abandoned spaceship.
That's what I'm going with
@Andy Briggs "wow these humans suck less get out" the aliens prob
@Andy Briggs That sounds like the polar opposite of a, "rational scientific response".
@@nightshiftreports3866 tt
@@cv_290 not opposite just perpendicular
Millions of years from now Voyager 1 will be discovered flying by another solar system and any intelligent life out there would also call it a comet.
"there is no radio sygnals" from this dead probe
"it accelerated a bit" as reminants of fuel outgassed as it heated up.
"Oh well... now we can't go after it."
@@cola98765 I believe that robotic probes are the only way humans will ever contact other intelligent life somewhere far away from us. Our soft little bodies would never survive the millions of years it takes to send a spacecraft from our system to another. Like some living robotic AI perhaps.
no
@@AlexMoreno-zj7po ah nevermind, alex said no, pack it up everybody, dead theory
@@davidthelong2154 thanks
There are 3 types of comments in this chat. 1. “We have no idea what this object looks like.” 2. “It’s an alien ship.”
3. Completely whacked out people
just swamp gas folks, move along
Number 2 commenters are based.
@Super Mario its okay. noone is perfect.
Just imagine, how many years this roams the universe, where it has been and where it will be in the future.... blows the mind...
And to think people normally get excited bringing a carved piece of wood or stone half way around the Earth as being something substantial. Shows just how small we are in the grand scheme of things.
Taking into consideration that the universe is gigantic it has certainly spent most of his existence without absolutely anything near, so it isn't of much interest
Imagine the same for the Voyager probes. What will they have been through in a billion years in the future.
All I could think about was:
"Interstellar turd"
It's already in future... Simultaneously, it's also in present.
They're just passing through the bad part of the town.
"If they attack the car save the radio" what movie? I know they went comms silent asap.. Captain even halted taco Tuesday... we're a Freakin' scary cancer..here on Earth.. eww I got negative
That explains why they rolled up the windows and locked their doors
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yep lock the doors, roll up the windows and strict radio silence .
Aliens look at us the way we look at gang members. Uneducated and ignorant af
I love that the click-baity titles lead to genuinely interesting and educational information. That's the kind of ambush I can get behind :)
Was thinking the same, can't stop watching these
I'm not a fan of the titles, but can't fault the quality of the videos!
Destiny videos are bad about it
I don't think these titles are click-baitey. The first word he said in the video was part of the title. Oumuamua.
Yeah what click bait? Its literally an Oumuamua type object... did he change the title or something? The video is EXACTLY what the title says....
Its a shame that one artist image is so universally adopted considering we have no idea what it really looked like.
We don't?
@@StoutProper No. It was apparently as reflective as metal and cylindrical or saucer/pancaked shaped. Other than that we know almost nothing about this object.
Omuamua is ufo we seen it in area 51
The artistic rendering looks a little like the Doomsday Machine from Star Trek TOS.
From its general shape and proportions its likely not an asteroid anyway.
Its shape, size and high albedo suggest perhaps it could indeed be a vessel of some kind, even if abandoned. We'd be arrogant to discount that possibility.
Its rotation will create centrifugal force as the equivalent of a G field for any lifeforms. We'd use rotation in just the same way.
If its high reflectivity was due to ice then it would have developed a coma, so that's hard to explain. As is its non-gravitational acceleration.
I'm inclined to agree with Hawking though - better we don't get any 'visitors'.
Sorry to any Hawaiians if I butchered the pronunciations of some of those names!
Ok
Oumuamua
I've never heard a hawaiian pronounce Worcestershire Sauce properly either.
Don't you worry a bit. You pronounced Borisov perfectly!
"Block their scans, accelerate once we're beyind their range."
"Aye, sir."
"Lets capture this specicies entertainment streams for future analysis."
"Aye, sir."
"destabilize the ship, they might be stupid enough to mistake us for an astroid"
What's kind of scary is astronomers only discovered Oumuamua when it was leaving our solar system. If it had been heading directly for us we wouldn't have had much warning.
The number of astronomers and usable observatories has dramatically decreased in the last decade or so. Many astronomers have mysteriously had accidents or committed suicide, and many others have willingly given up the profession. Things that make you go "hmmmm....". BTW, I'm talking about dozens of astronomers here, not just a few.
@@RacerX888 sounds a bit like the Chinese book trilogy Three body problem or Remembrance of earths past, go check it out
@@RacerX888 I gotta ask - why do you think they quit? because it feels like you're insinuating something
@@RacerX888 wow, someone ( YOU) should do a video on that!
It is truly frightening .This is what happens when you defund scientific research and put all your money towards the military and invading other countries . We're a sitting target .
Imagine if we sent a probe to piggy back ride on oumuamua.
Oumuamua is spinning so best for the probe to just travel beside it. Of course, it’s gone so would be next to impossible to catch up and find.
The thing is, given the low mass of Oumuamua, it can't capture the craft with its gravity. So in order to soft-land on it, you'd need to go to pretty much the same speed & orbit... at which point you have created your own interstellar traveler and the asteroid itself becomes irrelevant (unless you want to study the object itself of course).
@@sanguchito7381 You could maybe try and intercept it and dampen the impact enough for the probe to survive.
@@sanguchito7381 by grabbing and following it you could possibly take advantage of its speed and trajectory.
That is a very creative thought. Bravo!
Alien generational ship: we've tried all quantum resonance frequencies, this aquatic planet doesn't seem to have advance civilizations, lets try the outer planets. (signal detected)
I feel awe when I think about all the interstellar objects travelling in space. I wonder about the sights that they must have seen over those millions or billions of years
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion? C-Beams glittering in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate?
Might have even passed through a blackhole or two. Maybe stuck orbiting in some time continuum like how planets orbit in gravity.
And to think that what we see isn't their current state or condition, but them several billion years ago. We are way too far and our info is too 'behind'.
@@7n154 how can it pass through a black hole , wouldn't black hole just eat it , unless it passed from really far away .
Probably has been flying towards the Sun for billions of years. So, it has probably seen nothing but blackness with a pin point light of the Sun getting bigger and bigger over millions of years. Our Solar system was the most action this rock has ever seen.
🎵 When that rock hits your eyes like an object from interstellar skies that's 'Oumuamua 🎵
When that thing starts to shine
hits the earth and breaks your spine
That's Oumuamua!
Sing it Dino.
How do you only get 22 likes 5 hours on ?? That was greatly appreciated I read it as the song go’s !!
I can't relate to that. I can only relate to moons and pizza pies hitting my eyeballs because that is a very common occurrence, man that just happens 2 or 3 times a night on average. Well I'm off to go do some more LSD now, I'm starting to come down and I can't have that.
@@medexamtoolscom I sense that you are researching your new diet book ? "how to loose weight on a stellar pizza diet" H-)
Exciting. I actually observed Hyakutake in 94 or 95. It was so close to the Earth and moving so fast, you could see it moving in the binoculars. Very cool to think I had seen an extrasolar object.
Never thought the aliens would ride by in a space turd.
Interstellar trolling.
that's actually an artistic rendition, probably deliberately made not to look alien but to fit data as much as possible. we don't actually have photographs of it, we don't even know its exact shape. this is even mentioned in this video.
nobody wants to say it, but this was a major fail from the higher ups in the astronomic society.
there was plenty of time (nearly a full year), numerous pleas to several important projects and observatories were made, and all of them rejected until it was too late.
"no radio signals were detected" what makes them think aliens use radio? That's an extremely inefficient way of communication for intersteller travel.
The stupidity of very intelligent people is astounding.
Now that's funny!
Think mc85 star cruiser - nasa astronauts have also described seeing cigar shaped objects when they’ve reported their “phenomena “. Really weird.
I read from the Harvard astronomy prof that Omoumoua was actually 'relatively' stationary and that the solar system 'bumped into it.' - which, if true, is interesting. I think the data is unusual enough that we need to keep an open mind.
that would explain it accelerating once it passed by the sun - or more correctly once the sun went passed it - gravity pulled it "down" towards the sun and then slingshot it as the sun got to the other side of it
Let me have a girlfriend
Media and academia is shredding Avi Loeb, the Harvard professor, for even daring to suggest "aliens". 1984 is here and free speech is gone.
@@Gh0zT-777 Eat The Rich
@@goofygooferson7834 don’t eat the rich, that’s cannibalism
scientists: why do aliens never visit our solar system?
The ort Cloud :(a fucking massive anti everything shield)
scientists: we can only wonder
Actually, passing through it is super easy, barely an inconvenience.
The comets are absurdly far apart (so much so, that we've only seen one directly - the existence of the whole cloud is theoretical, not observed)
Jeff Benton is right, but it is interesting to note that even the ridiculously tiny amounts of dust in interstellar space are enough to pose a significant hazard to spacecraft traveling a significant fraction of the speed of light. It seems unlikely that dust in our Solar System's Oort cloud would be any harder to deal with than what aliens would have to deal with in many other parts of space, such as leaving their own star system, though. Also, even if you explained why aliens don't show up IN our solar system, that would still leave questions like why we can't see any Dyson spheres or radio signals.
@@jeffbenton6183 Oh really?
@@jeffbenton6183 Love the Ryan George reference.
I'm just realizing how badass Jupiter is
If you multiply Jupiter by 13, it would likely become a Star
Now imagine when that space tesla cruises through another solar system what will they think
According to the site, the Roadster is now 215.6 million miles from Earth and is traveling at a speed of more than 6,000 miles per hour. Interestingly, the Roadster is closest to Mars right now, at a distance of 96.1 million miles. The Roadster is in an orbit that appears to be on a path back toward Earth. - 6 Feb 2020
Plot twist: Car picks up enough momentum & velocity and slams into earth, causing our own mass extinction.
@@rukuspov3059 lmfao
To quote numerous commenters in this vid, "a space turd." 🤣🤣🤣🤣
They'll probably say oh yay more trash from the Earthlings .
What if lands into another planet's ocean and eventually that planet builds ships with the Tesla logo on it and visit us to say thank you for the idea lol.
Its all fun and games until it comes straight for you. Ask them dinos.
No, thats when all the fun and games start
It was an out of control spaceship. At least that’s what I’m telling myself
How did you come to the conclusion that it was an 'out of control' spaceship?
@@thomasgreaves5705 probably because it sounds cool
Or perhaps a bit of scrap from an old alien space ship
@@All_Mighty672 Exactly, it’s such a weird object I’m dreaming big. It looks like the UNSC ships in Halo 🤣😂🤣
avi loeb & lex fridman had a great podcast about this two weeks ago
Watching Astrum is so calming and so informative at the same time. I want Alex to narrate anything space related from now on.
if you like his voice there is another space and astronomy page that is narrated by someone with a great voice to listen to. it's called SEA. all space stuff. between the two channels, i could listen to them all the time. SEA is defiantly worth the check out.
In a perfect world with untethered resources we would have sent an intersect mission to have a closer look.
Another reason we need to expand to other planets and start building a lunar base for launching rockets
The problem isn't resources but the greedy mismanagement of them. Never let anyone tell you a perfect world is impossible.
Imagine if we did and it turn out being a ufo
@@ismannyb8148 it's a book. Called rendezvous with rama
@@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts I was looking for the right place to post that.
I mean I knew about Kyper belt and Oort cloud but I never realised our Solar System was THAT big. Wow
shalom
The universe is so big we can't even begin to see all of it.
After a certain point the light gets so redshifted we can't make anything out. We have to use gravitational lensing to see even the tiniest bit further.
Just realize that a, "light year" isn't a measure of time, but distance. Like a mile or kilometer.
@@VeggiePun then realize light travels roughly 160,000 miles over 1 second and there's approximately a shitload of seconds a year. Times that by 14 billion lol. The distances are just unimaginable. We've made it to the moon "allegedly" lol. There has Gotta be lots of interesting places out there!
Voyager 1 will still take 300 years to reach the oort cloud, and will take 30,000 years to get through it, if it survives the journey.
The solar system ends when you're far enough away that the gravity of other things keep you from maintaining an orbit of the solar system. As the nearest other star is 4.3 light years away currently, that means you could say anything within 2 light years is the solar system, but of course if anything is that far out, it's in danger of parting with the solar system if anything temporarily gets closer, which happens.
I am not saying it was aliens, but it was aliens.
because...aliens!
They were coming to pick up Zuckerberg to take him home... but then they saw he'd violated his parole by creating Facebook. So they left him on this prison planet for all the wretched scum and villainy of the universe! ;D
Honestly, I don’t think it’s aliens
It's a random interstellar rock
@@danilasolovjovs8019 That's what the aliens want you to think.
Plot twist: Humans are the weirdoes in class, that's why everyone avoids us.
Make me wonder how many of these weird things, and weirder things have passed by before we could look for them..?
There have been quite a few, but most don't get the airtime this one did.
Our solar system is about 5 billion years old, and we have only been looking somewhat closely for a few decades. So I would say that there are things out there that are weirder by 8 orders of magnitude.
@@TheGreatPower365 Quite a few = 2?
It’s aliens
@@bozo5632 There are likely countless interstellar objects passing through at any given time, probably many too small to detect.
It’s more likely that we’re being observed rather than not contacted at all ever since our species began.
Oumuamua could be a fragment of an ancient starship crash of a MASSIVE scale. Like a starship thats 2x as big as the sun and another starship of similar size crashed a millennia ago and it’s just now that we witnessed a part of it. Overtime it bumping and hitting other asteroids has caused it to be shaped more like an asteroid/comet
I mean it explains the shininess of it,
The lack of radio signals, and the elongated shape.
It's a shame Arthur C Clarke didn't live to see Oumuamua. Or the two that will be following it...
I'd bet that no millennials will understand this.
@@kenlogsdon7095 I was reading "Rendezvous With Rama" when most of the other kids in my class were still on "Janet and John" books.
@@seankayll9017 me too.
@@seankayll9017 i was rendezvousing with rama when most of the other kids in my class were still learning to read
There was some initial discussion about naming Oumuamua, "Rama".
Its Marco Inaros throwing rocks at us. The first one missed.
shits take times...
Haha❤️
Don't worry the old drunk woman will save us.
re-target the Watchtower satellites from Mars to the belt ! They are the only ones that can burn through the MCRN's stealth tech
Thank God. We don't need a Babylon's Ashes type of disaster any time soon.
That was one of the prettiest representations of the solar system that I think I've ever seen.
Massive props on pronouncing Ka'epaoka'awela, takes a big man to even try.
I think we all owe Abi Loeb a lot of credit for getting CZcams folks excited.
Avi is right. The simplest, least far fetched explanation is the best. Oumuamua is a lightsail propelled starship.
@@u.v.s.5583 you don’t need to go so far. It’s probably just a football 🏈 field size aluminum foil.
Who is that?
@@Sebrewer32 Theoretical physicist at Harvard University
@@oumuamuatoday5761 Great! That would imply that Oumuamua is just the baking foil some aliens have used for a picnic to bake a cookie by a star. A techno signature!
We really need to figure out a way to attach cameras to some of these asteroids and such that have these huge orbits. Like interstellar gopros.
Ya. Like a giant Go pro.
problem with that is that at some point we'd no longer be able to see what's going on. the camera would lose connection to the planet purely because of how far away it is. it wouldn't even take that long. though, it would give us some unique viewpoints of our own solar system, beyond that it would supply us with no new information.
Engineers have been trying to do this since the voyager, lag and connectivity tend to be a bit of an issue when dealing with trillions of miles worth of distance though
@@Japed well what about setting up relay stations throughout the solar system to boost signals? And then building something that can go dormant for veeeeery long periods of time and activate again as they get closer to the sun?
@@scottnunnemaker5209 but, why? what for? itd be cool i guess but like he said it would supply us with no new information.
The likelihood there has at least been another civilization on a different celestial body is more likely than Lysol’s ability to kill germs.
Justin B. Woke up and chose violence
It is amazing and scary to know we can't always detect so many rocks coming into our galactic territory
This is why Operation "Star Wars" needs to be real
Everybody gansta till it starts to slow down
Most people would be glad to see a world ending asteroid coming in. You better believe that if it was a ship then we would all be super stoked!
Even if they were coming to enslave us, it couldn't be worse then our current evil leader's enslavement.
@@jerk1921 wtf are you even saying
Is it really likely that an alien object would transmit radio waves?
It would depend on what the alien object was. Worth a listen.
@@bozo5632 i just think that if you could send interstellar or possibly intergalactic probes that you would not be waiting for radio waves. There is likely a better way to send data closer to the speed of light i would imagine. It would be like checking an asteroid for signs of smoke signals 500 years ago 😂
It is worth a listen by the way. The only issue i have is that the narator made it sound like lack of radio waves disproved that it was extraterrestrial
@@chomes8048 I agree that the narrator confused the issue, talking about radio.
Radio does travel at the speed of light though. Radio is the same stuff as light, just with longer wavelengths.
Even if you send a probe to another star or galaxy, you still have to wait for the results to arrive by radio or laser at light speed. Plus you have to wait for the probe to get there at much less than light speed.
Radio SETI was always a longshot, but it was just about the only shot we had available. It depends on aliens deliberately blasting a powerful signal directly at us. We couldn't detect anything weaker. (We could only detect a civ like our own at about 100 light years - right on our doorstep.)
It was worth a try, and it still is - our receivers are getting bigger and better.
@@bozo5632 That's very interesting about the radio speed. My mistake. You appear to know a lot more about the issue than me. I will go and learn some basics of radio as my next topic 😁. Thanks for the info mate.
@ShaunDoesMusic True but confusing.
Light travels at different speeds through different materials. It can actually move very slowly through some things. Light moves faster in air than in water, for instance.
The maximum speed in a perfect vacuum, for anything, is close to 300,000 km/sec or 186,000 miles/sec. We lazily call that "the speed of light," which is mostly okay, but technically it has nothing to do with light.
Light and radio are exactly the same thing - electromagnetic radiation - and travel at the same speed in a vacuum.
We need to stop thinking aliens will use radio signals. We haven’t thought of everything, we would be primative in comparison
Exactly. We would be like wildlife to them. They probably wouldn't have any reason to make contact with us after a quick observation. They would probably realize the risk to our civilization would outweigh any reward for theirs. Observe but not interfere would be the most likely protocol.
But radio signals are invisible and fast and capable of carrying a lot of information. Starlink is at least 150 megabits per second downlink, for example. And WiFi routers with yagi attachments at 802.11ac are capable of much higher throughputs. Is there something you think prevents us from scanning for radio signals as well as using any other methods that might be conceived ... at the same time? And have you considered that aliens might not be more advanced than us in every way?
@@AxionSmurf Yeah, it isn't so much about being advanced as it is about being different. It'd be like two different technologies trying to communicate. Like using a cell phone to talk to a cb radio. Excellent question posed at the end, I wonder what alien culture would look like. Would they have a form of music? What would their senses even be like?So many mind blowing possibilities.
@@7n154 Those are the questions, aren't they? Would they even have a comparable form of sentience to ours? Would they percieve time like we do or would they "tick" faster (like flies) or slower? If their senses, forms of manipulation, and native environments were sufficiently different to ours, their technology would likely start from a completely different baseline and develop along very differnt paths to ours. Then there's their lifespan - they may live longer or effectively be immortal (to our understanding), or they may only be "alive" for certain periods, or they may have very short lifespans but knowledge and memory may pass down to their "descendents", if you could even call them that.
I think there's probably some galactic formation where they've decided to only observe young evolving civilizations and not to let themselves be known because it would interfere with our natural course and evolution. It would cause mass panic and hysteria. They try to make sure we don't put ourselves into extinction though. Like with the events in ww2 when aliens were known to interfere and disable our nucular bombs. Ive seen a ufo watching me with my own eyes. When they knew they were noticed by me they took off at light speed, could have also been a goverment ship, pretty sure they have reverse engineered craft.
This is why Avi Loeb's theories should be given more credence. He theorizes it may have been something like an extraterrestrial solar sail that may be just 1 of many 'markers'. He showed that from a different frame of reference, Oumuamua was not going super fast, but instead going so slow that it was 'standing still' compared to the speed of the sun and solar system. Meaning this object and objects like it could form something like a grid in this area of our galaxy. I really hope we are able to test and see whether or not this is true!
They’re the cigar shaped/ tic tac crafts. They’ve been prevalent in our world’s history and culture since the dawn of mankind. Led Zeppelin even refers to them in their album artwork and music. Another public example Is when the USS Trepang came into contact with these crafts in 1971 while stationed in Antarctica.
7:30 give me a break with SETI, why would it use radio communication if it was really an interstellar traveller, or more likely, a since long dead husk or relic? That's like listening to a rusted oil tanker underwater, and upon NOT receiving any radio signals encoding the Fibernaci sequence, conclude "it must have just been a rock formation".
It just boggles the mind sometimes how quick we are to dismiss something on the basis of extremely narrow datapoints.
fibonacci, doofus
Excellent analogy.
@@jengleheimerschmitt7941 excellent analogy for what though?
@@daos3300 abandoning a shipwreck on the ocean floor as a coral reef because it wasn't transmitting 😁
@@jengleheimerschmitt7941 lol
One of the *best speakers* online. Wisdom and thoughtfulness - with a splendid voice, accent and measured speech. Thank you, Alex. You are very much a class act.
"SETI listened for radio signals." Yes because we know for absolute certain that an interstellar species who is by raw probability drastically different from us, and who has cracked the puzzle of interstellar travel, must absolutely use radio signals in their technology. There is absolutely no way they could have developed more advanced signal radiation.
Imagine if Oumuamua was a damaged spaceship that had lost all communication abilities and was just tumbling with its crew on board. The acceleration was their last ditch effort to get home by using the last of their fuel and our suns gravity.
I hope it worked
"Oumuamua is not the only interstellar interloper", now that's a tongue twister!
Great name for a prog-rock solo-album though!
Aliens invade.
Humans: Finally! What took you so long? Please wipe out humanity now.
Alien enslavement has to be way better then earth enslavement!
I already know what its like to be an earth slave.
Alternate title:
Interstellar interlopers; where are they now?
I'm downvoting for the misleading title. So frustrating...
@@danidzs lol ok
It's past Neptune now .
Only legends know that its a petrified aztec vampire
The supreme organism
jo jo knows
Petrified Aztec vampires are gonna be my new thing, thank you
They should had call it "VROOM" instead.
Spinning would create a gravity of sorts, for the creature who:may be in hibernation on a long journey, disguised as shown, cloaked,to us. But could be in transit to anywhere, needed a catapult from Earth gravity to get re aligned with their target destination.
A cosmic demonstration of the doppler effect 😂
@@mtbmadman187 Doppler effects only happens with very very massive objects like Jupiter because it has alot of mass it's basically like a seesaw but one end is very long an the other is very short and put a very heavy object on the short end and put a light object on the long end until it's stable then you spin the seesaw and there is your Doppler effect
Kaboom!
@@danilasolovjovs8019 damn that's me told was just trying to have a laugh m8
I'm betting it will start transmitting whale calls.
I hope we have our ship ready to circle the sun and land back in the 80's 😂
I've got the Transparent Aluminum ready :')
The hell they will!
Well we now have the ability to make transparent aluminum .
Live long and prosper
Nobody mentions that Oumuamua slowed down during its approach to the sun, which is impossible for any space rock.
So is accelerating at the point of grav assist without making a tail. But now they try to fabricate new theories on how a rock might be able to do that.
@@jerk1921 Attempting to explain a thing that we fail to currently understand is the best way to propel science forward and thus bring us closer to the actual full discovery of alien life. If we just assume it's aliens and don't even attempt to rule out aliens, then we'll never get anywhere.
1:28
_The last planet: Neptune_
*Sad dwarf Pluto noises*
Pluto will always be a planet
why wont people get over it, its not a planet
@@seudonym2467 Yea they just talk about pluto and not the others for some reason
In New Mexico, it's officially a planet when above that state (signed into law there after demotion)
It is a planet. Dwarf planets are still planets. That's why that whole change was so stupid. Dwarf=Small . Pluto is a small planet. No one would argue with that.
I hope in the future, we see those objects much earlier then Omuamua!
What I was thinking. To have enough advance warning to send a probe to a truly interstellar object would be amazing.
Hopefully next time one of them will hit us
Omuamua is ufo we seen it in area 51
Than*
@@MuscarV2 That’s a disorder apparently
Oumuamua is an out of control space ship that partially became active upon entering our solar system and turned on the after burners to leave the system faster than it came in. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Nice “story” and one that is right up there with Jack and the Beanstalk for plausibility.
Such a therapeutic voice :)
So calming and relaxing 😌
Actually I think otherwise, very irritating!!
Then the programming is working
When two hard, sphere shaped objects collide, they splinter into pieces that look just like this. This is nothing more than just that... a natural phenomena
phenomenon
Except for the fact that his object was interstellar, and traveling much faster than an object of its size should be traveling if caused by a planetoid collision. Who knows though
Did Oumuamua really have velocity, or did we simply pass by it? After all, our solar system is moving at quite incredible velocity. I've heard the argument that Oumuamua was actually stationary.
Some pretty dope visuals in this video! I love this stuff
I love your films, Alex, but this one is truly mind blowing. I could never have imagined that objects in our own solar system could be influenced to such a degree by stars which ae light years away. .
Oumuamua was an intergalactic bouy waiting for a system to come along and give it a nudge. That system happened to be Sol and we were visited as a result. It's velocity is much less than it would be if had been ejected previously by another star system. All of the neighboring systems in our local group are traveling close to the same velocity, which makes sense if they came from the same interstellar nursery (which they probably did). This object was moving much slower in relation to that velocity until Sol nudged it. Ari Loeb talks about this in various pod casts. In fact he predicted that if it were truly alien in nature we should be finding them all over the place. The fact that we only found one is a detractor to the alien theory, but now that we have potentially found more it seems Ari Loeb's hypothesis was proven out. Also, Ari Loeb doesn't believe it's cigar shaped as every rendition depicts. He believes it was pancake shaped. The data we have on the object supports either configuration, but someone sent out an early rendition of the cigar shape and that has stuck ever since.
Maybe the Ets build their ships out of asteroids? It makes a lot sense, if they want to explore unnoticed by others. Also it might explain why can not find them.
There's sci fi stories , also theory or postulation about humanity doing exactly that for itself to reach the stars, , generational or Ark ships, based or built inside hollowed out asteroids ..
Maybe, but those would have to be *extremely* patient aliens. Oumuamua is traveling at a speed of 196,000 miles per hour. That's fast by earthly standards, but it's still going a tiny fraction of the speed of light, which is 186,000 miles per second. It would take hundreds of thousands to millions of years to reach another star. Sure, one can fantasize about aliens frozen in suspended animation for those vast stretches of time waiting until their spacecraft enters a solar system, but then one has to wonder why its navigational computer didn't detect Earth as a suitable world? I also kind of hope that technologically advanced aliens would have developed a much more efficient means of travel such as a warp drive so aliens could move around the galaxy much faster than the travel time a generational or Ark ship would require.
Building a ship into the interior of an asteroid would provide radiation shielding and a ready supply of raw materials, aside from being a good means of stealth and misdirection to avoid detection, but this object moved too slowly to take all that seriously as an actual spacecraft of any kind. The amount of time it would've drifted before even reaching us makes it that much harder to seriously believe it was an alien craft. Unless, of course, they were moving much faster but then decelerated dramatically before even entering our system and being detected.
I've always thought that if interstellar species do exist they probably found a way to move their whole planet or planets. That would seem to be the most efficient way to make trips that could take literally millions of years.
"Cigar shaped" as I'm puffing on my cigar. Someone should blend a stick called "Oumuamua".
I'd be willing to smoke that...I haven't had a good cigar for years. I don't drink anymore and that was pretty much the only time I'd have a cigar.
Why not you my dude? I think it's a cool idea. I don't think people would be informed enough to buy it and market it unfortunately but it's a cool idea. Just patent the idea and make this video go viral somehow and you've got it made! I'll help if you cut me in on the profits ;)
Sounds like it would be out of this world
What if we already missed an Alien signal? Because we literally invented electric usage only 130 year's ago
What if they are using dark matter tech to transmit? We don't even know what dark matter is
@@Blader91X exactly, we as humans are constantly thinking that our technology is used by everyone everywhere.
Then we'll count ourselves as lucky.
I'll keep an eye open for things flying toward us.
I'm no Arecibo and I don't even have a telescope, but I'll try anyway.
..and changing it's velocity ;)
thank you for your work
@@MsSchatten Just trying to do my part for humanity! ;)
Good lookin’ out
The aliens were in cryo sleep, they'll get the notifications from seti when they switch on their coms 👽
Dang it, I called the mothership to pick me up...they were supposed to get closer.
Sort of like a squirrel scratching at the door "let me in, I want to be a human now". "Haha, look at the cute squirrel", then close the door in your face.
I like to think that was a corvette class ship husk whose crew had been decimated by space brain eating parasite, thus the tumbling
It wasn't a planet collision. It's complicated.. my grandpa Rick and I got into a jam
Omuamua is ufo we seen it in area 51
These humans thinking we all use radio to communicate.. so primitive haha
Why did you fuck with the squirls Morty?!?!
@@mobilegamersunite aww jeez
5:21 Oumuamua is clearly a derelict Zentraedi Quiltra Queleual
you noticed, too.
When I see good photos of the galactic plane or images filled with countless galaxies totally filling up the frame and I realize that although they appear to be so many they are so incredibly far apart for us and we can never get to any of them, I think god I need some Doritos and some brownies, some big red soda and... I think it’s incredible.
or maybe they just turned on the engines, and accelerated out of the solar system!.
Omuamua is ufo we seen it in area 51
We probably would have seen something like that. At least, I like to think observatories and amateur astronomers wouldn't miss an engine lighting up nearby. Depends on the power source, I suppose.
If the did escape the solar system then oumoamua would accelerate way faster but instead it slowed down from the sun's gravity so you might be wrong also where would the fuel would come from you need an enormous amounts of power to move this thing at 78.000 kmh
@@danilasolovjovs8019 No, didn't you hear? It was "solar pressure"! HA HA HA HA
@@avonacolyte Gravity drive doesn't require any "exhaust".
I watched a documentary on this before. That is actually a spaceship from the whale species making its round to ensure the whales are doing okay. When the ship couldn't communicate with the humpbacks it started to evaporate the oceans in order to investigate the disappearance without regard to the other forms of terrestrial life. That's when Captain Kirk and his crew had to slingshot around the Sun to go back in time to when the whales were alive and bring one back to the future and save the day. True story.
i thought they brought 2 back, a mating pair?
Imagine a powerful telescope on the surface on the moon, come on NASA, put it on the Artemis list of To-Do
I agree! Gotta be careful though... Having a non-existent atmosphere is good for telescopes, but also good for literally any-size asteroid. A tiny little basalt bullet may fuck up billions of dollars of equipment.
@@novemberdawn8145 ohhhhh right... the Hubble seems to be doing just fine in LEO, but I dont know how different the impact risks are beyond that
@@BadAssEngineering That's a good point, but NASA probably tracks and pre-plans the orbits/paths of as much debris as it can from it's launches to make sure nothing can harm Hubble.
@@BadAssEngineering I’m pretty sure Hubble orbits at a different orbit than most of our space garbage. Just for that reason
who is going to maintain it though?
Morshu is coming into the solar system to sell lamp oil, rope, and bombs.
I can't escape morshu here of all places
Omuamua is ufo we seen it in area 51
Pure hypothetical. Imagine what would have happened if SETI got another WOW signal in repeat when pointed at it.
So, but imagine if Oumuamua WAS ACTUALY a alien craft ship. Like we detect some sort of short repeated signal, presumably some sort of sos, and it was also tumbling like real Oumuamua. So we would know it was alien, but we would not be able to capture or do anything, it would just pass by us, as we look to the sky imagining what kind of technology that ship holds
Also some legit scientists think that this was alien in origin. This is how science works
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The thing no one talks about is how it perfectly intersected Earth's orbit. It was a drive by.
Yeah, I've been wonder about that.
@@Mike-gd4zd Some scientist have said it was because of the solar wind pushing it away but I don't buy it .
@@royalspin solar wind? Never knew light can create wind
@@shimmy7169 check out solar sails its neat
Listen straight from Avi Loeb on Lex Fridman podcast.
Lex, is great. Lex is credible too.
What's ridiculous is we believe they broadcast on our radio and communication spectrum. That's why we can't hear them.
Take some time to learn about the electro magnetic spectrum
Oumuamua is a space turd from a 4th dimensional being of almost unimaginable size. All the outgassing was done by the creature that deposited it.
Lmao finally a funny comment
I love that scientists assume aliens would use primitive radio waves and not quantum entanglement comms
Or in the inverse, that they have even discovered radio. Maybe they have incredibly fast birds and just use them like homing pigeons.
Radiation is a significant sign of energy being produced. Not necessarily a form of communication.
yup, they look for incidental radio emissions, CW, or analog modulated radio signals. Advanced civilizations likely use a form of digital spread spectrum , or perhaps a combination of spread spectrum and use quantum entanglement to broadcast despreading information (like with direct sequence spread spectrum systems using A-priori receivers). Without knowing anything about the signal (PN spreading , coding and so forth), any radio transmission will look like noise at best. Noise is uncorrelated so no way to tell if there is any radio signal or radio emissions from long distances. Note, Quantum Entanglement requires the sender and the receiver to be in possession of entangled systems. anyway, something I have been wondering about for a long time. I see other comments along the same lines.
Lmao....entanglement comms... NICE!
Avi loeb was the scientist that went with the explanation of this object being et. He's the harvard's top professor which he put out the possibility this might be of extraterrestrial origin. The way he put it together was,
the object was the first of its kind to be spotted to come out of solar system(there are a lot of object and i mean a lot of object that revolves aroud our sun and that is considered to be our solarsystem family).
-The object did not have any tail whatsoever and even using an infrared telescope(guess 😄) to view any sign of tail possibly because it may not be ice and might have some element we dont know about on its surface. And that was a failure too
-If the material it was burning was invisible to our eye, the weight should have been another factor to spot it by. Since a comet loses a lot of weight(im guessing 10%) when forming a tail. We didnt see any.
-The way this object moved was sus. And it was near to earth before it turned and blasted off which we found out later that the speed was significatly different from an average comet or object. And we took very long to spot it and we possibly couldnt have send in a rocket to chrck onit because the speed it was flying off by was unmatched by any vehical we have.
-The theory of this professor was may be this object is possibly an abandoned ship or broked part of an actual ship which uses light as the means of its puopulsion which is called light sail and we actually are in queue to be using that technology for our own space exploration.
He also said that scientist should behave a lot like kids meaning that they should takle problems without thinking wholeheardly of the drawbacks. Science should always have an openmindness about possibilities and we should care about us as a human species and not because of some medal or paper you get to hang on your wall becajse you decide to only tackle something that you feel confident about.
Oops too long of a comment.
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Omuamua is an Alien spaceship observing ' Earthlings killing themselves.' While eating Popcorn and laughing at Planet Earth destruction.
Oh, stop the melodrama.
yeah aliens are cynical trolls in space with comparable sick humor to the standard land troll.
I suspect that when they found out that Biden "won" the election, their planned touchdown on the White House lawn was cancelled. That's why it accelerated away.
@False Ha ha ha, you are right. It is meant as for those with sense of humour. 😂
So Avi Loeb sensationalized the Omuamua discovery as a unique and possibly "alien" visitor when this appear to be a pretty common occurence in our solar system. The only thing holding us back is our ability to detect these objects to register and study them. I think the less speculative explanation is actually far more interesting as it demonstrates the dynamic relationship between our solar system and the other galactic bodies and phenomena. I find it similarly fascinating to the history evolution that doesn't teach us that were insignificant, but rather quite unique and extraordinary given the necessary steps to end up in an unlikely place just like Omuamua and countless other extrasolar bodies.
If there be interstellar wars, it would travel radio-silent and use gravity assist for speed; doing power-assist trajectory corrections only when near a massive object to help hide its power output.
Hmmmm, matches what we observe...
Space Turds!
It's what makes the Kessel Run so long,,, avoiding Space Turds.
A Harvard professor just released a statement less than a month ago claiming the uamoua was officially a visitor object that was not natural
Wow!🤔
No, he just suggested that we should consider the possibility of this not being a natural object. Nothing official as more evidence is needed.
@Hunter Smith The name of the Harvard professor is Avi Loeb and he has just come out with a new book titled Extraterrestrial: The First Sign of Intelligent Life Beyond Earth where he makes this claim. A Wikipedia article about this book provides numerous references and links to more reliable sources.
Lol huh? Link please?
@john d 10/10
Those types of objects are more comon than we think. Those space rocks are all over the Milkyway. The only reason why we now seem to discover a bunch of them is because of better equipment. They're for most parts small enough and quite fast making discovery very tricky. They're also rare enough so that close encounters with Earth is is also very rare.
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Thanks dude. Heard it somewhere else, then forgot, heard it here, " i'll have a look on the comments" . You, sir, are a gentleman.
Doing God's work brother
Thank you
Thanks to The Expanse, every time I hear someone say Kuiper Belt, I want to shout "beltalowda!"
Remember The Cant
Das right, Bossman.
Not the same belt though. The Kuiper belt is in the outer solar system, while the Belters live just beyond Mars' orbit, sasa ke?
Possible probe to see if Terrans were capable of quick space deployment and travel. Doesn't mean it didn't collect valuable information during its transition to be transmitted once clear of sensor technology. We'll never know unless it decides to return.
There are some people speculating wether Sedna might be a captured dwarf planet since it's orbit is extremely elliptical and it can max out at 937 AU at its farthest point. It also takes 11,400 years to do a full orbit which is way longer than pluto at 248 years. but it's probably unlikely since it has a similar composition to other objects in the Kuiper Belt and the Inner Oort cloud.