Kove 450 Rally vs Yamaha T7: Who Wins? In-Depth Review
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First review I've seen that doesn't mention China 10 times! I love it, just straight to the facts!
Windshields on dual sports are tricky. If you move them closer to you and make them tall enough to block all the wind there's a good chance you'll put your head through it on a bad bounce. If it deflects the wind off my chest on the highway then I'm happy. Thanks for the solid review.
You're welcome and thanks for watching!
About the thin carbon bashplate: It's the easiest thing in the world to lay in the inside a few layers of cevlar cloth with a suitable resin and it'll be a (literally) bulletproof bashplate. I've replicated my plastic/metal bashplate in a 990 Adventure R and that required a LOT more work to get it there, but in the end, the carbon/cevlar bashplate, was the lightest and toughest plate on a 990, period. It would take rocks and stair hits without a scratch! It cost be about 300 Euros to make in materials.
Had an Aprilia Tuareg, which was a nice bike, but, like the T7, it was too heavy for me to take to isolated areas by myself. Also, it had a few bugs that were concerning. So I bought a Honda 450L, but like the KTM 500, they are a bit twitchy on the roads, which I need to drive to get to the dirt. Having sold both bikes, I bought the Kove 450 and it seems like a good blend of those bikes: stable on the road, but light enough to ride up questionable trails. Just enough niceties to make it comfortable for this old man. It seems solidly built; I hope the aftermarket will embrace it. I still mourn my selling my WR250R, but this Kove may take a bit of the sting out of that decision. Seems like a great BDR bike. Putting heated grips on it today. Hard to beat for the price.
dd you buy it direct from GPX or one of their dealers? wondering if the price is the price... or they are doing the whole freight and prep thing?
@@misterchuck6866 I got it from a local dealer.
You can have perfect bike for road and offroad...
How has reliability been? Any issues / concerns?
Always starts right up. Haven't had any problems at all. @@XadJack
Finally!!!!! This is an awesome comparison. Thank you. We need more like this. This will be the hottest category soon. More content like this please.
Oh it's coming! Thanks!
Thanks for discussing all the important things a prospective buyer needs to know, or should need to know.
Great video man! I felt like I could smell the evergreens and the killer smells at elevation in Idaho! We just took this route (seems like yesterday) in August and I don't think I'll ever forget it!! As someone that's ridden a Suzuki DR350s for over 20 years, that dirt bike feel and being able to ride 70mph comfortably as kept me from buying anything else. It has truly been one of the best crossover machines I've ever owned. It's 30 years old this year and never made me walk! I'm pretty sure the next trip to Idaho, it's coming with me! Glad there are getting to be more options for us dirt bike folks!
I can understand and appreciate that man! The KOVE 450 is everything I've wanted in an "adventure bike." Just the dirtbike ripper of a feel and aside from riding some gnarly singletrack this bike is a do it all bike IMO!
@@SnowBikeNation awesome!! It was super cool to see you guys ride a familiar route that we got to ride recently. A world away from us here out east. Ride safe boys
Looking forward to riding the Kove.
I took a Kove demo ride at the Giant Loop Rally in early June, I was totally impressed.
I have had a kove 450 for the last month and its a good ride review , the i agree on the engine but remember its running road gearing and will tap out at 105 mph ,if you altered the gearing for enduro riding it would be a different bike , horses for courses i guess , i have also just fitted the ti race exhaust and the race ecu will be with me in the next few weeks, give a few extra hp and better low down torque
I'll def be doing a reflash on the ECU to get some more ponies and throwing a different sprocket on for better offroad riding. We wanted to test it stock and it's badass!
@@SnowBikeNation the race ECU is £78 in UK money I think I paid £780 for the race ECU and full titanium system with no cat
Nice review thank you. We met in South Dakota at the ADV RevZilla fest.
Very cool! Glad you liked it
Thank you for the review and the great sceneries (Id is such a great state for outdoor sports :3 )
Camp ground and 1st trail looked very familiar. Solid review boys!
Thanks man! Stay tuned for more.
Good review. I think you guys hit it right on the head. It's not a T7 or a KTM690, but a dirtbike with a mini fairing and long range to boot. Perfect size bike for the offroad guy that has a 250 or 300 2 stroke singletrack bike !
Nice vid! That Kove looks pretty legit…
Nice one. I enjoyed the down to earth commentary. (Or should I say, "Down to dirt."
I like the Kove a lot. I have a KTM 890R and I would love to have to Kove for the dirt bike quality to it. Would love to go from the garage to the trail and home again while having loads of fun on the trail. The 890 I have is fun, but you wouldn't tackle the stuff you would with a single cylinder 350 or 450. Having 8 gallons of fuel seems awesome as well having run out of fuel once or twice on the trail. Time will tell if it passes the test.
Great comparison. I have a T7, I could also see myself getting a Kove for the shorter more offroad oriented days. I will wait a couple years and watch the reliability of the Kove.
Good choice! I feel the same. Hard to know how they will be long term
@@backcountryadvmoto that engine have been around for “ages”, and the history shows no problems. No need to wait….
It finished the Dakar without any issue. The bike has proven itself already.
The engine has been in the ajp and fantic 400 for a few years , the only difference is it's a twin cam on the kove
@@scannorse I know that the engine is reliable, I’m just talking about the motorcycle as a whole. Suspension, frame and so on.
I think that Kove inadvertently stumbled into a segment of motorcycle market which there is no competitors. When Honda, Yamaha and KTM realize this, they will find Kove competiting in other segments.
It would be interesting if Kove make a sumo with the same engine.
Exactly. The only way to get one of these previously was to build one yourself. Surprised the other manufactures never noticed how many aftermarket tank and seat companies there are.
Well done. Seems like Cove has come up with the lightweight ADV bike we've been asking for and falling on deaf ears. I like my T7, but that Cove checks so many boxes. And those snowbikes look like a hoot!
Can you clarify please, as a 701 owner I hear all these people asking for a "unicorn", light, good offroad, good for travel,.. Which imo is 100% the 701.
The 'unicorn wanters' seem to disregard these completely, now a chinese manufacturer is out with a 450 which promises essentially the same as the 701 (with less power) and people are going crazy? What is the difference?
Why this hype for the kove and not the for 701? Aside for the price (which is a big + of course) I'm really wondering about this
@@Nickvdb93The Kove comes stock with 2-3 fuel tanks, a fairing, a carbon skidplate and a toolkit. 3 out of 3 Kove bikes finished the Dakar rally, with that year being considered the toughest edition in a decade. Dakar is also the reason these bikes have 450cc instead of more. Dakar regulations allow for up to 450cc in engine displacement. Considering the overall package, I'd pick the Kove. If I wanted more power and a Supermoto, I'd pick the 690/701.
@@Nickvdb93 What @darkolengkeek5320 is spot on. And price point is a BIG difference. The 701 is gonna cost $5,000+ more to get the fairing, fuel tanks etc... The Kove 450 really is a Rally bike! Straight up. And having the lowered seat height is a great option for shorter people. The low center of gravity with the fuel tanks makes it feel amazingly light. I couldn't even really tell a huge difference between full and partially full. It's a badass bike and I hope KTM makes one the masses can afford!
@@Nickvdb93 i’ve got time on a 701 and a 690 and I think the thing with the Kove is that it comes ready to rock ‘n’ roll at a great price point. Can you take a 701 add the auxiliary fuel tank and NAV tower? Sure? But all of that brand and you’re looking at around $15,000 whereas the Kove comes in right at 9000 and it still has more fuel range. Is the 701 better for longer multi day trips? Id say so. For somebody who’s not doing that though and doing long weekends, the Kove does check a lot of boxes for people and is significantly less money. Like I said in the video, I don’t know if I see myself purchasing a Kove, but after riding both, it is a good option, and don’t think you can go wrong with either one if you build out the 701 for what you want to do with it
The 701 is a cool bike. I have a 2018 now. But it has bad instrumentation, bad lighting, an attack riding position which gets old fast when just cruising around, a terrible gearbox full of false neutrals, wonky handling, a narrow powerband, and other assorted engine reliability problems. The reliability of the Kove is TBD, but initial reports are looking good, and it supposedly fixes the rest of those gripes. I'd like to try one. The HP of the 701 is fun on the road, but I often tell people I'd give it up for an extra 20-30% power down low. It doesn't like lugging or pulling out of low rpm corners like the other big singles.@@Nickvdb93
The T7 is a nice bike and definitely 'one of' the most dirt bike ADVs out there. It is not only heavier than a dirt bike, it's top heavy. A bike can be heavy but be more manageable when it has a low center of gravity. The T7 has a high center of gravity. Consequentially, the Ducati DesertX which weighs more than the Yamaha T7, has a lower center of gravity for its mass. I only mention the DesertX as an example of how bikes handle depending on center of gravity for a given bike, weight being somewhat distantly similar.
Doing a quick search I see these are purchased site unseen and shipped to your house packaged like an Amazon mini bike. It’s hard to drop $9K on something with zero dealership, warranty or parts support.
That all being said it looks freaking awesome and like it’s (at least that example) is worth the money.
Oh and IMO based off my rides so far. Well worth the money. It's my favorite bike to ride right now outside of shredding the gnar on our Singletrack. But riding the road, dirt roads, and two track I'm picking my Kove 450 each time.
Supposedly there are 60 dealers. You only get them ship to you when a dealer is too far. At least that's what the distributor said in another video's comment section.
@@Euryheli Thanks I will.
I guess the best way to make a decision between these two bikes is a very honest conversation in front the mirror.
dying to try a Kove 450, hoping it makes it to Europe and all the crazy emission regulations we have at the moment... great video! I learnt a few features I did not know!
They are already in Europe and you can already buy them.
As far as I know they focused for now on Italy and Switzerland but importing a bike from a different EU country isn't that difficult.
Plus, the 450 rally is homologated with 52hp in the technical documents. That's a nice change in comparison to all the KTM EXC etc.
It has the same engine as the Fantic Caballero (and some others) that is being sold for years now in Europe. So no problems with regulations.
Hey man, love your channel. As a tall guy thats had many bikes dirt, dual and street how would you compare the XR650L to this KOVE? I know 2 different machines but just wondering?
Finally… I review that (to me) is spot on: T7 or kove rally (and next year kove 800x)…a great, real life, no b**sh!t review. I wish more kove owners would review the bike on ‘ long trips adventure ‘ aspects… BIG THANX for this review!!!
Ps. I have a 2018 AT DCT, been driving some TETs in Europe, and definitely want less weights, even for 10+ days trips (around 5000 km or 3200 miles and speeds up to 130km/h or 80miles/h).
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching. Will be doing the Kove vs the ktm 450 soon as well as hoping to get my hands on an 800 as well when they come out.
Thanks dude. that's how we roll. The KTM 450 vs. Kove was even more fun. We really ripped hard on it! Such a badass capable bike.
@@nastysoda9212 you betcha. After riding the two and seeing what they did with the Kove. Not just a "Chinese" bike, but this one. And hopefully this provokes the other manufacturers to jump on board and build something comparable.
Might get to see you late spring. Base out of Ronan. See where work has me.
So because of the high power band, is it a lower compression motor? What are service intervals like?
I have my DRZ400S for the dirt and my VStrom 1000 for the road (asphalt or gravel). I’m set
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Que buen aporte, saludos
As far as i can make out proper Dakar bikes are tuned with a good top end and a smooth seamless bottom end. If you're racing all day you don't want a hard hit straight off the bottom, it's too tiring and makes the bike harder to control. But that's just my guess
Ok what's the 4th bike? Honda or older Husqvarna? We like info. Years, size ect...
Waiting for these to start hitting the used market. Someone will do it. Lol. Loving the info coming out on these bikes and the hype seems correct.
Nice vid!! 👍 In you're final statement i'm missing the Husqvarna 701 or KTM 690 that are also the ones to choose from in a comparison in this weight, costs and performance class. Or don't you agree?
I do agree, that the 701 or 690 would be a premium bike. The only reason we’re not mentioning it is mainly because of the price point. We’re trying to stay in that same nine to $10,000 range. But if you were to compare them side-by-side, it would be a better bike, hands-down. Even with the weight difference.
Do you think it's comes with flat out desert gearing and needs sprocket for your hilly country your riding ??
They need to make a more ADV version of this bike.
I k ow exactly where you where at, such an awesome road and glad idaho did what they did with it.what are the valve adjustment interval
The criticism of the power band is ignoring the fact that this is designed for Rally use, not Idaho single track. There is a huge difference. Watch any Rally video, they are mid to high speed hare scramble type races. No 1st gear technical riding, no grunting up a slow steep incline where you need bottom end torque. They are 200 to 350 miles per day across varied terrain. in 4 to 6 hours.
Yes we talked about the fact it is a "Rally Bike" and revs more like a 350. Definitely not a detriment at all and in many ways as I got more comfortable and familiar on it I freaking loved it! Just kept it above 4500 RPM's in the gnar and she sung! More of that to come in our KTM 450 XCF-W comparison video.
I agree with you, it’s a Rally Bike
The Kove manual says not to put ethanol based fuel in it, the oil sump is 1.8 litres but it retains 0.2 litres on oil change (change every 2,000km or 1200Miles which is as little as 2 days riding for me sometimes) , but i do like it runs on 92 octane. I will look out for your long term review of the Kove
cheers from England
Great review and video as always. You guys need to get your hands on an Aprilia Tuareg 660. I’ve ridden both bikes, the T7 and the Tuareg, and I feel like it sits perfectly in between the Kove and the T7. Honestly it blows the T7 out of the water in a lot of aspects.
I’m curious what aspects?
I'd love to hear your thoughts about the Aprilia. I've eyeballed it and wondered. But it still seems to be a bigger heavier ADV bike vs the lightness and nimbleness of the Kove 450. I just love riding Dirtbikes and ripping so I'm also a bit biased! I definitely want to ride one though!
@@SnowBikeNation I’m very similar to you in that all I’ve ridden are dirt bikes for the last 15 or so years. About 2 years ago I decided I want an adventure bike and I’ve spent that amount of time trying to ride every adv I possibly can. Compared to the T7 the Tuareg has more suspension travel (240mm), more ground clearance (240mm), a lower seat height (33.4inches), 80hp vs 74hp, larger gas tank (4.7 gallons), it’s dry weigh is 412lbs and the biggest aspect that is immediately noticeable is how that weight is distributed. What looks like the gas tank on the Tuareg is actually the airbox, the tank itself starts beneath the air box and runs in between the frame all the way down past the seat. Fully fueled it’s about 450lbs but it feels 50lbs lighter than the T7 because the weight is low and it has a better center of gravity. Similar to the KTM 890’s low slung fuel tanks but not quite as dramatic. Also it has cruise control, switchable abs and traction control, and 4 riding modes. All of which can be changed and adjusted or turned completely off on the fly, while moving, and the bike remembers all your settings after a key cycle. Stock vs stock the Tuareg suspension is night and day better than the T7. It’s pretty close to the factory WP stuff on the 890 R without being too harsh. Where the T7 shines is it’s torque down low, and the rock solid Yamaha reputation for reliability. The Tuareg is also a torquey motor but it makes peak torque higher in the rpm range due to the design of the motor and obviously it has 40 less CC’s. The advantage to that being it absolutely screams in the upper rev range, has an additive intake honk at WOT and just has an awesome fun factor. I’d highly recommend taking one for a ride if you can. Also, msrp is $12.3k which is equivalent to the currently inflated T7 pricing.
@BoogiemanMoto i personally like the simplicity of the T7 more, and it feels solid somehow. Firm up the clickers and crang up the preload the T7 is good enough for traveling 👌
Lower seat height and centre of gravity plus cruise control are the major things.
T7 engine feels torqier and it's easier to wheelie 😜
@@BoogiemanMoto dude! That bike sounds rad. I need to find one to ride. Thanks for all the info bro. 🤜
I would like to know how this Kove compares to the CF Moto 450 MT. I have subscribed so I don't miss that comparison. 👍👍
How does it compare to à 690 or 701?
Lovin mine! I have a tall Rally and a T7. Both bikes complement one another. There is some overlap but a
both shine at either end. And there is a couple of racks already in production for the bike. Covers the entire rear fender and comes down the sides for extended protection from the bag and hitting the wheel. I adjusted my shift lever up one notch and it's perfect. They just come out very low from the factory windscreen isn't bad on my opinion and it kept the majority of the wind off my chest but I didn't have any buffeting at my helmet. I thought that front tire stock was just marginal and mud but pretty good everywhere else
Hells yeah man! Such a sick bike. Glad to hear you are enjoying yours. Where do you ride?
@@SnowBikeNation Colorado High Country mostly near Vail and Steamboat, but all over Colorado and Utah.
@@silverhill377 Hell ya! LMK if you make it out this way and we'll rip!
Hey guys, thanks for the review! I have a 17' Husqvarna 701 Enduro. How do you think these bikes would compare? I feel like that would be a little closer in comparison( especially if the Husky gets a rally fairing and extra fuel tank(under-seat tank). I'd love to hear your thoughts!
I'm considering trading my T7 for such; Rally 701, PR7 or Kove 450.
I also have a ‘17 690, but you have the newer motor. I’ve thought about this bike, and my friend just bought one. I don’t know, despite the similar weight I think the LC4 is in a different league. I mean, it’s considerably more powerful, and there is an infinite amount of aftermarket. Price wise and value the Kove wins hands down. Though if you’re willing spend some more, maybe get a rally tower or even one of the cool screens offered and the under seat tank, in the end you’ll have quite a top notch bike.
@@timbrandt7211 I had an 09' KTM 690 I sold to a friend. It was really not that too different from the 701 so the updated motor is great but not wildly different(701 has quite a bit more top end though). I was able to snag my 701 for under $7k so I still feel like a used 690/701 would outperform the Kove in every way but fuel capacity. But I'm always curious about new/different bikes. I would love to hold another 2 gallons. The 701 is still my favorite bike of all time and I've owned over 170 of them.
@@samdouglas1842 yeah I agree, especially if the 690/701 is dialed in. But like you I’m always curious about new bikes too. I will give the value prize to the Kove, hard to beat. A well set up KTM is much more money, could hit double the cost if you get one of the high end rally kits with fairings and tanks. That Rade under seat tank looks pretty interesting, adds 6L and you don’t even see it, 400km range.
Fine. If nobody else is gonna make the first comment, I will!
Hahaha
And thank you so much for pronouncing Kove properly. IT'S KO-VAY PEOPLE!
When it’s easily plateable in GA, I’d like one.
That Kove seems like the perfect bike for me... I was thinking a T7 - but I want more of a dirt bike - so I was then thinking maybe I'll build a YZ450FX to be a Dakar style rally bike... well this thing ticks ALL THE BOXES! Wonder how hard it is to get parts for it?
it looks like Kove offers a rack option for the 450 rally
Kove is more an adventurized dual sport but the adventure unicorn still does not exist because it has to be a light twin under 400lbs, 400 to 550 cc range. T7 is bomb proof but out dated. Aprilia Tuareg is the current bench mark.
I would disagree, the KTM 8900R is without a doubt the benchmark in the middle weight ADV market.
Except, still too heavy imo, as still is the Tuareg for that matter but it will be more comfortable on longer paved runs. Also for off road, 890cc is unnecessary, where one has to rely on traction control to control the beast. Adventure bikes are a compromise between on and off road, so getting better off road sacrifices comfort on road. I will keep my 690R any day over an 890R off-road until we get to the pavement.
What I want to see is a 5 to 600cc twin, 399 lbs wet adv bike. Perhaps a 590R or a 50lb lighter Tuareg.
In my opinion the 690 is hardly any better than an 890R offroad. It has a terrible turning radius, and an entirely to high of 1st gear for offroad work. A KTM 500 EXC would be a much better choice for a lightweight ADV bike than the 690.
This is EXACTLY the review I wanted. Please make another one, with the same bike, also bring a 500EXC.
The squirrel brain comment in the end smacks home with me. Please more throw around discussions on this topic! 🙏 it's the unicorn discussion
I have a T7, it's pretty ok as a travel bike. But i find myself limited by the weight, so i want a lighter adventure bike it's like T7 -> 701/AJP PR7/Kove 450/500EXC.
I can have a T7 and a 500EXC. Or i can have only a Kove 450 and do everything with it? no more choosing what bike to ride, being on the wrong bike.
My brain all the time when riding. Especially snowbikes haha! You'll see our review on the 2023 KTM 450 XCF-W. Very similar to the 500. I love that bike! But it's still a Dirtbike instead of a "Rally" bike so they are just different animals.
Where was this filmed at? The views are amazing... I want to go there
Idaho
I am actually out of Missoula. I had a 2014 690 Enduro for over 45K. loved it. bought a 890....its awesome, but I miss the lighter bike. If you have any experience with the 690/701... I'd love your thoughts of this Kove vs. the 690/701.... mostly ADV /dual sport stuff, alot of BDRs
790 or 890? Which is better?
I wonder how much of the T7's front end push would be fixed by running more of a moto style front tire?
It would help a lot!
13 min in Dzus fasteners! are great!
Awesome vid fellas. xR650l on the height of suspension travel
I agree, but the 690 is much easier to adventurize. Loading, pannier racks, etc. for moto camping.
Reminds me a bit of the KTM 640 Adventure, which was an awsome bike.
Holy shit how many balance weights are on that rear wheeL?
Looks Awesome! Where can you buy one? So Cal Cali!
Kove website. Kove dealer in San Diego.
Do you think dropping 1 tooth on the drive sprocket would help the low end a little bit?
Yes I think it would make a difference
Some Chinese motorcycle enthusiasts built this brand and 450 rally initially for Dakar racing
Yes, and they actually competed in the Dakar this year and all finished!
Whats that antenna backpack that dudes got on at the end with the comparison?
Not sure what you are referring to?
@@SnowBikeNation At the end comparison i believe you have a vest on. Has an antenne on the back. Im just curious what that is? Is that the only way to communicate in that thick of forests?
@@ridesmort I'm just wearing my Klim Arsenal Vest. No Antennae though. I think you saw my selfie stick haha. We are using Cardos in our helmets for communication though.
Another excellent real world review to corroborate Jimmy Lewis, Tyler (eveRide) and a few others. I'd like to see a comparo of the Kove 450 with my 2003 KTM 640 Adventure. 20 years difference in models but what about performance for its intended purpose? Would be interesting since they're both thumpers.
The huge difference immediately noticed is vibration. The Kove is so smooth....I'm into the second week of a trip across Europe on the Kove, so have been riding every day, 2,000km so far, so good.
@@OverlandTheSlowWay Sick man! Let us know how your ride went and any issues that crop up with your Kove. Dude. Hit us up, sounds like it would be a fun Live Interview to do!
@@OverlandTheSlowWay The 640 is/was noted for its vibration but so far it hasn't bothered me to the point of frustration. Certainly it's not as smooth as a twin cylinder but I'll take the 100 pound weight savings - particularly in off-road sections - over highway comfort. I've added a second radiator fan (Tusk universal fit) to better manage the tendency to overheat, crash guards and heated grips. Would like to add LED auxiliary lights but don't want to overtax the stator. Good luck with your travels!
How about the 690? I mean that is the one right between those two.
I'd be curious how a 690/701 fits into the T7/Kove 450 comparo. I just picked up a 701 and coming from an Africa Twin, it's a massive improvement in the dirt. The slab to/from the SF Bay Area to the eastern Sierra wasn't bad either.
Adoro kove refogada com alho !
Where did the great graphics set for the T7 come from???
So this is actually the @fieldcraftsurvival ‘s T7, I work closely with them and will producing a lot of their Moto content. That being said they have a contract with Crye Precision (founder of multicam) and they did the wrap on the bike.
Thanks!@@backcountryadvmoto
Have you ridden the Tuareg? How does it fit in? Between the two?
The Tuareg is pretty special. If I already owned one, it would be pretty difficult to go to the Kove. The only place I can think of that the Kove would outshine the Tuareg would be on really tight stuff. Weight wise it’s not much lighter.
@@backcountryadvmoto thank you. I agree with your assessment. I already own a KTM 500 and I don't know if I should get a KOVE which is a lot like the 500 but different vs aTuareg that will allow me to do longer rides and yet feel okay on the trails given that I come from a single track background
@@thambu19I wanna ride one so bad!!!
@@backcountryadvmotoisn’t the Kove 38kg lighter? That’s pretty significant
@@backcountryadvmoto Tuareg is only 3 pounds lighter than the T7 so I think there is a pretty big difference to the Kove.
Interesting how many balancing weights are on the rear wheel rim... 8:09
Yeah, that Tusk tire needed A LOT of weights. And it was still not 100% balanced. But damn it made a big difference.
Lowered bikes are always harder to wheelie. The high suspension one will be much easier to lift a wheel on.
Makes since.
You probably are going at a higher speed with the T7 in those corners 😊
Kove 450 Rally having three fuel tanks with a total fuel capacity of 30 liter and the light weight of the bike - this is surely the world tour bike. The T7 it is to heavy and not as capable. Easy choice
Nice review. How do you thing the Kove 450 compares to the KTM 690 or Husqvarna 701 ?
Good question. I personally haven't ridden either but debated buying one of those before the Kove. Ultimately I loved the price point of the Kove and what it came with. No doubt the KTM and Husky are gonna be more refined and have more power but I still think a more top heavy feel vs having the fuel so low on this one. I'd love to ride and review one though! I've heard they rip like a big dirtbike and are a blast to ride. I hope to have one in the fleet next season. They are about the same weight dry but the Kove 450 holds more fuel.
Neither 690 or 701 have good suspension, and the engines is low grunt no “flexibility/lively”. Frames are not that good either, so i find the Kove a clear win
@@SnowBikeNationmore refined ? I would say no…
This is also my question.
@@SnowBikeNationI had a 2019 ktm 690 and I found that built quality was great, fuel economy was amazing average 57mpg at sea level and 60mpg in the mountains , maybe because you don't have to twist the throttle that much to get you up in speed, also with the help of off road mode and traction control the bike is very manageable
Ok, let's get started:
Kove every 2000 km maintenance
T7 service every 10,000 km
T7 engine durable.
Yamaha has many workshops worldwide.
Spare parts supply.
Long-term care.
“political situation” danger of war in Taiwan, embargo ..
Definitely T7 for traveling on unpaved roads.
All reasons why I picked the T7
Насколько большая вероятность при падении повредить бак ? 😮
Considering we dropped it 10 or more times with no damage at all, I’d say pretty unlikely.
With such high revs, do they bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz through your feet, legs, balls and bum? I'm having real issues with my G310GS doing that around 5000 revs up.
It actually isn’t a buzzy motorcycle. They do a good job of dampening the vibrations
You are all forgetting something, it is a “Rally” bike, you could do rallying on it
I 100% agree. It’s heavily marketed as a dual sport. In my opinion it’s more rally than DS.
You cannot get a street title for these motorcycles in most states. I live in Indiana and there is no longer any way to covert an off road title to a motorcycle title.
It really depends on your state. Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Arizona, Utah etc do not have any issues.
Do you know the service intervals for the Kove?
5k I believe
Owners manual states every 4k kms for oil and every 2k kms for valve clearance checks
4-5k km.
Thats sad... it should be like 20.000km.
and in the near future, Kove will be allowed to be driven in fewer and fewer countries because it is too loud. As an example in Tyrol Austria.
I like Kyle's squirrel brain opinion.... its much like mine! lol
Honestly, the entire comparo is biased. The close to 10k$ limit is blown anyway as the Kove Rally Factory you used is (at least here in Switzerland) closer to 16k$.
So the real comparison should be between the Kove and a Dakar-proven Rally bike like the KTM 450 Rally. Now that would probably be a totally different outcome.
Don't compare Rally to ADV bikes, flatly said.
Well in the US, the bike is $9k. The very next video at the end compares it to the ktm 450, which crazy enough is actually more expensive than the T7 here in the US. Sooooo, pricewise the comparison was pretty spot on.
T7 is definitely the better adv. The 450 is just something else. I heard Kove's adv is coming to the States too. No idea about price though
If restricting yourself during your rides is “adventure” you are right. Else absolutely not.
@@scannorse Haha... I've realized people's idea of Adventure riding varies. My idea of adventure riding is not what most people want to do. The gnarlier the better. So the more dirtbike like it feels then that's my "Adventure" bike haha. But the T7 and Kove 450 are really just two different beasts as KC and I mentioned in the video.
Try AJP PR7
I freaking want to!
Still feels wrong to spend 9k on a Chinese bike. 😆
There is a rack available for this bike
Yep there is now. There wasn’t one four months ago when we made this video. 👍🏻
WHAT! OKKKAAAAAYYYYYYYY
tenree is smaller gas tank 4 gal
Dat Honda 500 :D
Dirt bike vs. Adventure bike?
Try this one. czcams.com/video/lrKj7K7uibo/video.htmlsi=uqmgTBcsXvjH-Ifi
Okay don’t get me wrong but how was the Big Dick road you’re heading to?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 It was showing on your navigation while on the T7 just when you hit those two tunnels🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Great review gents👌👌👌
I assume you have to have a Big D place to ride there🤣🤣🤣🤣Take care from Arizona
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I was wondering if anyone was going to catch that. Somebody else saw that in a previous video of mine in that same area. No bullshit the name of the mountain just to the east of where we were is called big dick mountain. and you have to take big dick road to get there.😆
@@backcountryadvmoto 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 fk it I’m gonna subscribe for more…😉🤣🤣
T7 more refined ? The bike is just welded together, no subframe to be removed or changed. Brake pedal is a piece of flat farmer-iron that bends when pressed. It`s generally made cheap, clunky gearbox, clutch lever feels like a husquarna bike from 60-ties….
The gearbox ain’t the best. My one used to have false neutrals, and a temperamental, stodgy shift quality. One day it was smooth, the next day it was junk.
@@martyn_gSorry for you….should be more stable
So from which year are t7 the best? Most reliable?
rieju better 500 adv l
10 gallon tank light twin cyl
I ride my wr 60 miles to trails no problem.....how spoiled are you?
Both slow and heavy
Apples to oranges comparison. You are not going to ride Kove down the highway like you would the T7 and you wouldn't ride the T7 where you would the Kove. The T7 is a true ADV bike. Doesn't matter because the first time you drop it and break something or it breaks down you will never get parts.
When you refer to clients as hearding cats, gonna hard pass on your company.
Too much talking. Get on with the riding. First 15 minutes…boooring!
I don't care how good it is... I do not support Chinese Products when I have a choice.... You can sell out, not me!
As you type into your made in China PC/Laptop/ Tablet/ Smartphone. Stay brainwashed.
I hear ya and I agree, I do have a choice and that’s why I didn’t buy one, but I guarantee you the phone or computer you type this comment on was at least mostly if not 100% made in China. 🤷🏼♂️.
It’s almost impossible these days to get around it. I run a retail store and we carry veteran owned and first responder owned businesses and really try hard to carry everything American made. When you start getting into the weeds with it. It’s almost impossible.
So much of the parts on all our Bikes from Austria and all over the world are made with "Chinese Parts" So the argument is invalid unless you don't buy anything from China. Otherwise at this point this is where we are. We aren't supporting the Govt of China. We are supporting riders and a company that like to rip and shred bikes just like us. They just happen to live in China. Just like many of us don't support our stupid ass politicians and dumbass stuff they do I can imagine neither do the Chinese people. Dirtbikes and Motorcycles unite the world, not divide it. I'm on that train of bringing people together through Moto.
I hear you and understand.. Yet, when I DO have choices I will pay more to buy USA made... SemperFi @@backcountryadvmoto
Please hand that iPhone TV back then. There are Chinese manufacturers that have been building engines for KTM and BMW for years but as soon as they mention Chinese bike guys like you pop up.