Ammo Shortage? Dry Practice: Shoot Better Without Firing a Shot - Gunsite Academy Firearms Training
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- Learn from Charlie McNeese, rangemaster at Gunsite, why consistent dry fire practice plays a critically important role in improving and maintaining firearm proficiency. (NSSF Video) #LetsGoShooting #NSSF
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In Marine boot camp we were required to dry fire for a week before firing a round. With the ammo shortage/price I'm going to do a lot my dry fire practice! Good info and let's be safe!
@esiagent1 ANSWER THE QUESTION
Thank you for your service.
I was surprised how loud my handgun was the first time I went to the range
bigbill4368 Me too.
same here
You get used to it. I’m at the point I prefer shooting without ear pro and it doesn’t really effect my hearing. Not safe I know, but preferred
Same! Still get jittery when I hear rifle shots.
@@dylnfstr same, when it comes down RLS you won't put ear plugs in before defending yourself lol
When I clicked on this video I thought it'd just be covering really basic and obvious points but there's actually some very solid advice here that I hadn't thought of such as driving into muscle memory just how much pressure is needed only to make the hammer fall and not just jerking your finger and throwing off your shot.
got my dummy rounds and now thanks to you i can start practicing safely!
I have a laser-round for dry fire practice. It works great and there's never a chance of live ammo getting into the chamber while I'm practicing.
Thanks for clarifying. I see what you're saying. I noticed it too, so I went and watched more of his videos (from the NSSF I think) and it sounds like Gun Site teaches that stance. I suppose part of it is comfort for the individual as well as effectiveness of the stance in a defensive situation. It has its merits, but so does isosceles.
Safe shooting!
Jim
I need to get off my butt and start making new videos on my CZcams channel. After moving to the Sierra foothills, finding a new place to shoot (Both weapons and camera), Getting settled in, and time with my daughter have all taken its toll. One feature I intend to shoot will be titled "In defense of the Weaver" One "Defense" I have is something nobody ever addressed: What is your empty handed fighting technique? If you are into Eastern Martial Arts, they are usually based on the "Bow stance". If a situation starts as a hand to hand scuffle and escalates into a deadly force scenario, The Weaver is perfect. One stance for both methods of fighting. Likewise, if you are "Golden Gloves" At the local boxing gym, then the modified isosceles < which is based on the Boxers stance will serve you better.
love the video, but I do have to say if you aren't checking if your weapon is clear/using an empty mag when dry firing at home, there's an issue....
You gotta love a "range master"who still shoots weaver and squints at the sights.
And racks the slide overhand. Good way to get pinched or fail to chamber a round.
Weird - looks like my reply did not go through. Was asking Andy what he recommends - by the way, went over to Andy's channel - he's an impressive shooter. Nice work Andy.
If you get a high quality airsoft made of metal, it will have the same weight and general action as their firearm counterpart including magazine, blowback, etc. I happen to own a Beretta M9 clone in airsoft, and feel is very close to the real thing. Recoil obviously won't feel the same, and while it might be possible to find one, in general the trigger is going to feel different as well. Some BB pistols are also good for practice.
Where can I purchase one of these barrel inserts?
Snap caps will do the same thing
@@chohyunil3804 Bruh
@@chohyunil3804 ruins the point of practicing with a gun
Just be sure you don't make a habit of spending a lot of time resetting the trigger. You'll find you'll become a faster shooting resetting the trigger while the pistol is cycling the next round and you're focused on recoil control. Start slow if you need to and work into this technique. Guaranteed improvement over time.
Who is here after 8 years...
I tend to ignore some of the more popular instructors these days. In a real situation where I have to defend myself, I most likely will 'jerk the trigger' somewhat due to stress. So, when I practice (getting harder to practice regularly) I try an simulate real world, stressful scenarios. I shoot from 5 to 25 feet from the target without looking at the front sight. Look for training videos on that.
"Blessed is he, in the face of mortal danger, thinks only of the front sight" Colonel Cooper. Hope to never have you beside me in a real fight. All you will do is spray and pray
My CCW instructor taught me not even to bother lining up the sights nor extending my arms but to aline the slide with target from the hip with supporting hand under mag for close range. Feels surprisingly natural
@@bernieeod57 I wouldn't be near you. You can count on that! LOL
@@dkeberhard you had better not be near anyone. You are a disaster waiting to happen
@@bernieeod57 My 20+ years of active duty experience says otherwise. You must lead a very, very, very boring life.
Great vid, Very informative and safe for beginners. Thank you!
At 2:51 he points the gun right at the other guy's belly!! Ammo or NO ammo....It's wrong!!!!
Is there a place to purchase the barrel plug and practice rounds?
Coming here for tips this side of the ammo shortage.
Dry practice helps you shoot smaller groups. Once you're doing that, you can adjust your sights to match where your shots are hitting.
Do airsoft pistols have the same trigger pull and reset as their firearm counterparts? I've never shot one.
not not even close
excellent points. I would say that the real M9 is very easy, soft to shoot so practicing with airsoft would be a good alternative.
Quick question I grew up knowing anything center-fire is safe to run dry fire drills with essentially and rim fire is a no go because it would supposedly damage the firing pin is this accurate
Yes true
It's true. I'm told getting a #4-#6 drywall anchor from home depot would help protect the rimfire firing pin
Andy - please share your recommendations - it sounds like you're saying the examples are wrong.
In the army we just made sure the weapon was cleared... worked 100% of the time
I hear trigger reset drill leaves room for a lot of muscle memory scars
No offense taken by me. :-) I do appreciate your replies and I also looked at several of your videos. Good shooting. Keep your powder dry my friend.
more ryan cleckner please
I don't get it....10-15 years ago dry fire was bad for your firing pin.
Only in rimfire guns
@@jefferylittleton1005 what's a Rimfire gun?
@@livecitycapitol rimfire as opposed to center fire. Rimfire ammunition has its primer around the rim of the cartridge instead of the center like most modern ammunition.
@@jefferylittleton1005 thanks man got it !
perhaps they are "tactical dinosaurs" but i have to say that their methods are more than adequate for me, in the words of Jack Weaver "a pretty quick hit is better than a lightning-fast miss" and i serve exactly that up against local law enforcment and tactical shooters every month at our unrestricted shooting events.
New does not always mean better. The fundamentals withstand the test of time. The "New trend" Which is nothing more than a re hash of the "Wonder nine era" Of the 80's claims you will never have time to aim so just have magazine capacity and spray. The difference between the 80's and today is that this "Wondernine 2.0 era" Calls for "Spraying a tight pattern. We still have body cam footage of a cop spraying 10 rounds at a suspect 3 feet away hitting him only 4 times concluding "Here we see a great example of the importance of magazine capacity!"
There is a reason...
Wrong? That is subjective of course. I'm just saying this whole segment is very dated.
Most people today shoot two eyes open, and isosceles stance. I'm not going to dog on the overly cautious nature of his safety procedures, some people may need that, but it is a little excessive for my taste at least. There are plenty of good modern videos out there. It just surprised me to see this type of technique released so recently.
An squirt gun calling 15 rounds fired, 3 on target, several innocents hit being a testament to the importance of magazine capacity
Never knew just how much I had to learn until I went to Front Sight. The same 5-day course is $200, that's a steal. Going to take the whole family in a few years. Strange place, that Nevada: they actually respect your rights. Living in Kali my whole life, it was nothing less than foreign.
You are inaccurate in that "no one" uses these techniques any longer. It is just those that care little about where their round ends up. Hard to believe you can feed yourself.
The instructor doesnt have his gun pointing down range....jus sayin...
the first 3 minutes were about plastic products. not learning anything there.
Unless you follow James Yeagers 13 steps on dry practice, this product would serve you well. czcams.com/video/pv9rAeDnOpk/video.html
dry firing cost me 3000 dollars last week.
Ammo doesn't just "get into" the chamber, it is put there old man. : )
And yet, the most common and infamous words following just about every ND?
@@bernieeod57 exactly. Every gun that goes off in a negligent discharge is unloaded depending on who you ask.
I came here to hear quickly what’s said about dry practice and was fed half the video about “safety first” to the level where I wonder if they even trust themselves. It doesn’t sound much like it.
You people aren't being realistic. You're telling people to slowly pull the trigger, and slowly feel for the reset. These things would be great, if they're shooting the 25m in the olympics, or only worried about shooting 4 rounds a minute, at a pop can. lol The truth is... People need to learn to shoot FAST, whether it's for self defense purposes, or for competition. Like Rob Leatham says.... I promise you that you're gonna be jerking, and slapping at the trigger, in order to get rounds down range quickly. The secret is, doing that without moving the gun off target. You're not gonna be able to tell the bad guy, "Hey man, just give me another second or two, I'm trying to make a slow, steady trigger pull". "Then, if that shot doesn't take you down, you're gonna have to wait until I feel for the reset, so I can start the process all over again". LMAO
"Take your time but do it quickly" Wyatt earp
From a guy who has been in actual gunfights: czcams.com/video/gCOGhiaW5SA/video.html
Sorry, "no one", meaning those that are considered some of the worlds best shooters. I can provide you plenty of examples if you'd like. These techniques are dated and for good reason.
Its the 80's all over again. No, magazine capacity and squirt gunning will never overcome the fundamentals
meaning those that are considered some of the worlds best shooters(Quote) Competition has strayed so far from the real world that your "Worlds best shooters" Are not the ones to learn from when trying to stay alive in a real fight
@Rami Runner The same top tier mission specialists who burned through 2 trillion dollars only to get sent packing by lightly armed goat herders?
thought I was going to learn something useful, just talking about a stupid product nobody will ever buy. I guess I did learn something useful, don't ever waste money at gunsite
No, waste your money on "Wonder nines" And lots of ammo to do little work
Or you can learn to properly safety check your weapon before pulling the trigger like a responsible gun owner and save yourself some money. Just sayin'.
So people like you say. And yet, how many ND's do we have every year?
Sure but why spend even more money when you can already practice with the firearms you have? Airsoft guns aren't going to give you the noise and recoil. You may not the feedback but you work on your muscle memory and trigger control.
There is no one uses those techniques anymore, (Gunsite may be the one exception). My advice is to learn from the cutting edge instructors, not these tactical dinosaurs. No offense intended, just my 2 cents.
"Your "Cutting edge" People's legacy consists of a lot of rounds fired, few people hit, and more innocents hit.
@Rami Runner Police shootings where a lot of rounds are fired, innocents hit, bad guys missed.
@Rami Runner You squirt gunners are the ones blowing hot air. NYPD: 100+ rounds fired at a lone gunman, 9 innocents hit. San Bernardino: 380+ rounds fired at two mass shooters. Boston Marathon shootout: 300+ rounds fired both bad guys got away. St Louis PD. 10 round sprayed at a home invader killing hostage.
@Rami Runner It is you who fail to produce evidence that post modern squirt gunning works one example you minor caliber squirt gunners do produce is where a cop sprays 10 rounds at 3 feet with only four hits and it is claimed to be "A shinning example of why magazine capacity is important "
@Rami Runner We have NYPD: 100+ rounds fired at a lone gunman with 9 innocents hit. Boston Marathon shootout : 300+ rounds fired as close as 3 feet. Bad guys escape. St Louis PD: Cop sprays 10 rounds at home invader killing hostage. You are the ones who offer nothing but bad guys missed, innocents hit
Weaver, one eye closed, overly cautious.I'm afraid this video was released a few decades late.
Priniples are timeless. This post Cooper "Re wondering of the wonder nine" Is a repeat of the 80's which led to fewer bad guys hit, more innocents killed, and property damage through the roof. The "Post modern / Post Cooper" Era consists of the old 80's spray and pray