The First Time We Accidentally Made Dry Hay - JCB Teleskid 3TS-8T Loading KUHN Optiwrap OWR 6000
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
- I wanted to try making baleage with grass, but the grass dried so fast I would call it dry hay! Better luck next time I guess!
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How Farms Work by Ryan Kuster is a CZcams channel based in rural Potosi, Wisconsin. Our mission is to teach those who didn't grow up on a farm what the farming life is like. These videos show the Kuster family working together raising cattle and crops. We believe everyone who wants to know more about farming should be able to share the farming experience with us and we look to educate the world on many essential agriculture topics.
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It's interesting how scientific farming is today, i.e., precise knowledge about specific hay moisture content.
We’ve been doing “haylage” for several years now doing different experiments. I’m in west Tennessee and we cut it. Start raking witching a couple hours of it being cut and bale directly behind the rake. The wait time depends on the thickness of the hay and what it is. Usually try not to wait any longer than 2-4 hours.
When I was in hospital a few years ago I had my phone with me. You say please watch all my other videos. Took a while to get for me to go home. So I watched as many videos as I could, liked them all. Ever since then I am current on liking them all. You never disappoint. Now I look forward to your posts. Thanks for sharing as much as you do. Happy subscriber 😊.
Great family effort as usual Ryan. Kuhn are doing a good job with the inline wrappers, definitely a money saver over individual wrapped bales. 👍
Tubeline, a fabulous Scottish invention.
We have cut in the morning, raked and wrapped it that afternoon. Our cattle absolutely love it!
Cut early
Morning for good protein (photosynthesis) during the warmer days bale at night during high moisture times use day light for better cure time. 1844s baler Arizona 🤙🏽
The quicker you can wrap it after it's baled the better.
We used to run a baler and separate wrapper and as the baler got further ahead the during the day the quality of bale's would drop off.
When we went to a baler wrapper combo the results were much better.
We cut in the arvo and start baler the next arvo. When we went to a McHale fusion we can do about 35 an hour comfortably and it's awesome.
Well, nice contraption. That about wraps it up.
I've been a subscriber for quite some time, and it has been a trip to see the transformation your operation has taken; in particular due to the many relationships you've forged. I remember when you took possession of your tedder and how excited you were. You showed that same enthusiasm in this video towards the bale wrapper. I think you seem to find the unique tools that takes your operation to the next level and beyond. Great stuff Ryan. Love your videos. Really down to earth good.
My advice for Haylege is to feed your dry hay first. cows love the haylege and don’t like to switch back to dry after. Plus the haylege hits mid winter and helps keep there condition looking better
Great advice! Thank you!
In the UK farmers choose to wrap bales individually in the field straight after wind rowing. It also enables them to be stacked to save space. Have you considered the nutritional benefits of that compared to wrapping in a line? It would also mean you wouldn’t have exposed ends leading to potential wastage
When I do grass silage/Haylage/baleage, I mow into windrows and let it wilt for a day or two (depending how hot and sunny it is) and then bale it. I don’t Ted out my windrows and rake back into windrows. I like my Haylage more on the wet side rather than the dry hay side.
That Kuhn stuff is pretty good. I like that film sense feature. Looks like they're using a hall effect sensor to achieve that. That eliminates one of the most annoying things about wrapping bales in my opinion. Do you have to do anything if you're going to tow that machine down the road as far as the self-propelled goes?
Ryan, you are the master at adding music to your drone shots! Very fun to watch!
I bought some balage around 25 percent and was still awesome feed. Hired a guy to bale my oats last year and figured it was to dry but I had it wrapped anyway. The guy with the wrapper said u be surprised. He said if u think a bale will sweat out it will ferment wrapped. I said ya but we've been in a drought. I opened it end of August and my milk cows loved it. U could smell that stuff in the yard if the wind was in the right direction. Also if u don't have end caps some old crappy bales work too. I put 2 old low land hay bales at the beginning and 2 at the end so air can't get in. Alot of guys do that in my area. Nice wrapper that Kuhn
Nice vid there sir loving the wrapper work to. 👍. Interesting fact and Correct me if I'm wrong 🤔 The tube-liner was first invented by a Scottish farmer named Anderson. Loving the weather just now but we to also need a little rain overnight. Stay safe 🏴
Yep, Ryan your on the right track. Windrow it like your saying. Then park that rake until the baler is in the field. Follow the rake with the baler. You probably could of had all over 30% you'll love the stuff. Good luck
Silage here in ireland u should get a demo combi baler if u watch irish or british videos its very common over here farmer phil or the hay team be good to watch
You still make the best farming videos out there!:) I love em´!....4020 is hauling bales!Yeaa😍
I use dry bales or corn stalk bales on the ends works way better than end caps in my experience. I wrap all of my hay and custom wrap thousands of bales every year let me know if you got any questions.
I think those bale’s will still ferment !! Thanks men!!
Glad your liking the bail wrapper definitely a kool peice of equipment
Fun, fun fun! Seriously! Like that video a season or two ago: your days baling grass hay seem part of the rewarding life you are living in nature with other loving people and a few dogs! :) (with good music!)
When we make grass balege we start cutting after lunch into windrows and bale next day after dew is off. Some neighbors around are baling 5 hours behind the discbine
I miss driving my dad's 4640 to till and drill wheat. When we did hay we cut with a New Holland swather and we'd hire a neighbor with a round baler. We had a New Holland small square baler for baling wheat straw... and no stack cruiser or accumulator.
It's cool to watch the wrapper doing its thing👍😁 looking forward to see the 569 in action😉👍
I think bale rappers are great for storing high moisture hay which also means more nutrients .
Love your videos keep them coming!!
Balage silage is the best , cows love it , great awesome video Ryan and Travis
Nice job what a neat machine to wrap your bales!! Stay safe always!!
I’ve helped do haylage for the last 3 years with my uncle idk where he gets it but they make a cap that goes on the end bales to keep moisture in and out and it seems to help a lot with the bales.
Loving new hay equipment new baler and now bale wrapper will be interesting to how hay quality changes and how much it chnages.....
Great investment Your farm has come a long way Congratulations
Great job Everybody, that will make really nice haylage,its nice to have the option to wrap, was in really good order👌👍😎
When you start wrapper off flip a bale on its end and get a roll of plastic that’s not too big and wrap the end over by hand, keeps air and everyone out going through the tube line and keeps it airtight to prevent mould
Always enjoy your videos. Always very well "filmed" and produced.
Hello from Canada great videos thanks for sharing
20 to 25% is where I made most of my hay for the last few years it was all my baler would do if I got above 27% it would wrap on my baler and plug up. some call this moisture "Sweet Hay".
Great video Ryan , the Kuhn wrapper does a great job 👍🇺🇸
I just used that thing in farm sim. I had no idea why I would use this over a regular wrapper, but once I found a place to setup and did it it worked well and I could see why it's a thing. I'm a pro now. Lol.
I have seen on my uncle s farm when i was young that,in one day we would have cut the hay in a field at 6-7 o clock in the morning,rake it at 4 in the afternoon and bale it a 6 pm and it would be dry!Sometimes in old hay fields the hay dries faster than new seeded ground.
awsome video ryan bale wrapper works really well love it thumbs up and shared
There is a nice bit of green under them swarths in Ireland that would look like good hayledge! Good feeding quality
IF you are going to wrap and are restricted to making rows, Why not consider an individual wrapper then you can stack anywhere much like you would stack unwrapped bales We went from a line wrapper to an individual and saved money and had better use of space
Speed
Individually wrapped bales require a grapple to handle. Uses more wrap. Always more molding on Individually wrapped bales due to trapped air and handling them after wrapping also creates more air infiltration.
Live in Ireland we make baled grass silage.
I think you need to step back and consider why you are doing high moisture silage in the first place? Dry grass hay, cut at the same growth stage as baled high moisture grass silage, will be better feed than the wetter silage, because it doesn't go through fermentation and the losses that come from that I.e sugars lost as fuel for bacterial growth, protein degradation from heating from bacterial growth.
So why isn't hay better than silage? Well if you wait for hay weather, which usually requires 3 to 5 days of sunshine, the grass will have headed, severely deteriorating quality. The losses from fermentation aren't as bad as the quality drop in waiting for hay weather and often it takes so long to dry in the field that that also creates losses from respiration.
So the ultimate quality feed would be dry hay in a young leafy crop that was dried within one day, as in mowed in the morning and baled that evening, not impossible but improbable.(there is a way to do this and it was actually developed at the university of wisconsin)
The compromise is high moisture baling that young leafy crop and accepting the reduced losses from fermentation. So that's why we do it.
We like doing ours up at 30% we find that if it’s done up any more than 40% there is a lot of leakage and then all the nutrients leaks out
Well done on the bailing. Good stuff stay safe
Man how things have changed since the 1970s when I worked for a farmer
That machine is awesome 👍💯💚🌱
yelling "HEY EVERYONE IT'S RYAN"
neat system you have there
If your cows are anything like our sheep they'll devour it super quick. We find they seem to waste less because they love it so much. I like it as it doesn't trigger my hayfever or asthma anywhere near as much dad not so much as we will go through an extra bale every three days and they plus it costs us a couple of hundred to dispose of the wrap.
The only ones we find will waste it are the lambs but then they are woolly little locusts that will do that with anything as they are more interested in standing on to if the bale
I love those wrapping machines, We have use of one when we do round bales. The sad thing is I'm in the process of cutting open and disposing of about 50 round bales that went rancid. It would make the cows sick, so it needs to go.
Very nice marshmallow maker it is pretty cool…keep it up guys👍🏻🇺🇸💪🏻
Does the Kuhn play "wrap music" while you wrap? lol
Dry silage is not a bad thing. We aim for our bales to be 40% or less. I think our cattle prefer the bales when we can make then a bit dryer.
Good video yall
This is are first year running a y hay rake and it is nice the one yhat we have is a 10 wheel rake
Wow that looks awesome. How many bales do you think yall will make this summer? And how many you need approximately? Looks great!👍💪🏻🐐🐄
Howdy ya'll,
So what do you do when you feed these bales, and have all that plastic ?? What happens with all that plastic ?? That's why I'm not a fan of wrapping bales, I prefer the way we bales with just twine, man I get frustrated with having to dispose of the twine we use to bale hay, I couldn't imagine having all that plastic to dispose of, that would drive me nuts lol
Stay safe, Stay Calm and Farm on my Friends, Peace
Just found your channel, this is amazing content
Great Video, thanks for sharing
That Kuhn equipment works nice. Are you going to sell the old wrapped bales?
Surprised the hay dried that fast.
Another great video!!! Hope it all works out for you
My daughter said that's sausages for cows...lol
Great Video How Farms Work I Love The Farm Videos From Bryer Floyd
Ryan when are you guys gonna do a live stream and do you like a Q&A I’m just curious and you say you’ll be at the national farm machinery show
Why do you not put end caps on the wrapped bales? What I've seen from friends who do all of their silage with wrapped bales like that is you put end caps on to seal the bales in, typically use some old bales to get the row started where you don't wrap them but use them to put the end piece on if that makes sense. Also they make the bales a lot smaller because silage bales are naturally a lot heavier. I know everyone does it different and it's a new thing and all but if your really looking to make silage bales id say seal the tow and make sure the bales won't be too heavy.
Of course you mention end caps 3 seconds after I typed that so ignore me! Hopefully you get things sorted with the moisture and everything, it's kind of trial and error unless you have someone with you who's done it lots before
Great video Ryan
Ryan I watched your video on star link just food for thought you attached it to that wooden post you are to take some copper wire and ground that star link to the ground so lightning won’t strike it and run in your house and burn everything up this food for thought grace and peace man
What's the best way to secure the wire to the post? Should I screw it?
Thank you very nice great video
Hey Ryan, I sent you a chap on Snapchat about how we do end caps. We do a Crisscross pattern and then spin around it. We just use and almost empty roll of wrap. It would well and is much cheaper
Ryan. Are you. Going to do some work on your yard And cement so it is not so muddy
Good content. 👍
Good video
For the most part, the only way to mess up balage is not putting enough plastic on, I aim for 10 layers, looks like your at 12-14. For the best results using end caps, we try to put a dry bale threw wrapping, 1st wet bale with end cap, then finish with end cap on a dry bale. You may need to cut your bale size back because the bales can get very heavy!
Marshmallows!
Are you looking for the formenting of the hay
You lose more leaves laying it out. Wind row day 1 let it sit on day 2 ( rake 2 into 1 with a dew if you want)then bale/wrap day 3.
Have you ever wrapped dry hay? If so what moisture is dry hay to you? And how did they keep?
i really like the machine pity about the first bale
Heck yeah man if you're keeping your bales from spoiling they'd be more to have and maybe even to sell a few extra bale of hay
I love all that I wish I could be a farmer
How many bales can you wrap on the two roles system before you have to stop and change it out.
Hey Ryan. I was wondering how you wrap the center of the round bale? Or do you? How many mils is that wrap? Thanks
Imagine it's been addressed in past videos, but I can't help but wonder where all that plastic comes from, and where it all ends up. Would like to believe it's biodegradable, or gets recycled.
I think they have a trash dumpster near the barn for the wrap
In Ireland it’s collected and recycled some of it used to be shipped to china now a Chinese company in Ireland is using it
Ryan your doing all the extra work to put up silage but your not getting any thing in return the forage quality is the same as dry hay. the goal should be to harvest grass pre boot stage so the forage is at its maximum quality.
Problem is everything is overripe because we didn’t have proper conditions to get everything made on time. Making hay as silage will prevent leaf loss in alfalfa, so if hay is overripe putting it up as silage is a better route to go down due to the decline of nutrients.
this was grass hay ? you could have made dry hay and rapped it with only 2 raps to keep the weather off of it I think that would have been a better strategy the is a ton of work moving all that water . I am in Missouri and may was and usually is to wet to make silage it can be muddy
Hey Ryan!!
Hey Darrin!
What's in that yellow container on the front of the baler?
I'm surprised by how much grass your rake is leaving out of the windrow. I know you like the rhino rake. But sure looks like you need a heavier rake to pick up more grass.
Problem is the grass is thicker than anything you’ll find. A different rake won’t do a better job.
Ryan have you ever had any problems with them center kicker wheels on that rhino rake?
They've never given an issue. We lock them up if they aren't being used enough such as if we windrowed narrow swaths.
Now for them to make a bailer that wraps at the same time she eliminates the net altogether.
kuhn fbp 3135 :D
@Richard Homan you can eliminate net wrap on a combination baler wrapper it’s been around for years it’s called barrell wrap and requires less wrap to finally cover the bale
Hi Ryan. pretty dry up there?
I noticed the first bale was not fully wrapped?
I pulled that one back out and ran it through. You’re supposed to put 1-2 through and then start wrapping so it has something to push against
Why do you leave the ends open?
Still don’t understand why u wouldn’t use a nomal wrapper for behind tractor or a combi or a fusion less hassle and better output and just makes life handier in general
Uses less plastic
@Richard Homan individual wrapping will produce 60 bales an hour that will pay for the extra time and plastic you couldn’t give away that wrapper for nothing in Ireland but the Kuhn combi unit is well liked
Tube wrapping uses half as much plastic and if you have a good system I think it's much faster then a individual system.
wrapping seems a bit short sited as far as costs go unless these are meant to be sold at a premium and not used on the farm. Am I missing something?
They eat it like candy. It puts on lbs and helps keep condition in older cows.
looks nice save your hay and store it well can you sell this kind of hay???????
If it's dry, I know you can you just have to be wary of moisture rings on the outside of the bale. I had a lot of material last year that could've been sold since it didn't have any noticeable deterioration in the bale.
All you need is some plastic and duct tape to make an end cap. We have done it this way for years.
Just use an individual wrapped bale, or a bagged one.