Exactly. Something that all the readers tend to overlook along with the torture in general. There is literally no body and brain left in the guy. He's scattered. So he acted shitty. Simple as that.
[EDIT: GUYS I stand corrected. One commenter pointed out that the torturer was carrying a speculum. That is an undeniable indication that I was wrong] That's just speculation. "Husband and wife" is probably just a metaphor for them being in close proximities
@@omniXenderman yeah still speculation. It wouldn't really explain Griffith's tendencies when he already sa'd the princess prior to his capture. It's clearly a coping mechanism to reclaim a sense of power and dominance, like sa in real life is
@@NeonPlanes The first time Griffith was associated with sa was when he sold himself to the noble in charge of the judar fortress that we see in the golden age arc it was shown in a flashback after Griffith returned when he was talking to casca how he felt dirty and he converted the emotonal trauma from the sa in to self harm physical pain amd damage being easier to understand and profess then actually confronting the emotions
Lol in 1807 they were developing early combustion engines and stuff, people already wore top hats and canes. what are you talking about? Make it 1207 and you are getting closer
"Falsely accused of treason" Griffith was literally trying to take an insane king's kingdom from him. Granted he was going mad at the idea of Guts abandoning him but he fucked around and found out.
What a weird hoop you jumped over. No one knew what Griffith's ultimate goal was, the King was jealous of Griffith taking his daughter's virginity but couldn't say that so he lied and said treason.
@@AgentshadlingI mean but he did commit treason lol, regardless of how much a freak the king is I think him having the queen, the duke, and the most likely heir Adonis being killed is treason. And having sex with a princess in that day in age without consent of the king is certainly treason lol.
@@thomasfisher7391 again, no one knew it was him that did those things. The King had no grounds, consent of the King didn't matter otherwise he would've used that against Griffith, but he didn't because both Griffith and Charlotte called him out at wanting to have sex with his own daughter.
@@Agentshadling I don’t understand what you’re talking about, him having sex with charlotte the princess is the treason he is accused of. Whether they know about the other things or not is completely irrelevant they are still treason. Having sex with a princess in this age without the consent of the king would absolutely have been considered treason regardless of whether or not the princess was a willing participant.
yeah, didnt he like orchestrate the death of a noble and the queen? Also, tried to get the throne through political means and slept with the princess. That's a lot of treasonous action.
@@CA_786and Guts and the other tried their absolute best to save him and they did succeed in it and after they did their best to be there for Griffith only for him to betray Guts and do horrible stuff to casca infront of Guts and btw Femto is Griffit and Griffith is femto
Man, the word “dystopian” is a MASSIVE understatement of the Berserk world Edit: It's just medieval times? Yea when there is demons, underworld beings, astral monsters, a carcass mixed with demons and women💀, a literal god tree, and a false messiah who is manipulating humanity
@@bruhman2736 @nicolabertini2741 both of you are kinda overestimating the cruelty of medieval times. Rulers still had to make sure that the peasants were happy, as most peasants had arms due to the threat of tyrannical leaders and the fact they made up the majority of the army during wartime. While it still wasn't a good life, it isn't anywhere near as bad as some think it is. (Unless you lost a war, then looting happens and that's as bad as you think it is)
Back then they would make you sit on a big wooden horse shaped like a triangle, tie ropes around your ankles that pulled straight down. Rip you from taint to tophat. If tophats existed during midevil times.
Just to remind you, Guts came back for him, Guts and the gang risked everything to save him, took care of him and never gave up on him, yet after all of that, he was not content with just becoming the Godhand, no, he went to the deepest pits of evil and did that horrible thing to Casca just because. Keep in mind, he couldve become a Godhand member and ressurected his crew, he just didnt because he didnt want to. Griffith should get the infinite death loop like Diavolo but a million times worse.
He can’t resurrect those who have been branded as sacrifices due to their souls falling into the infinite void of torment with the apostles. That was the saddest realization I found reading Berserk at 13 years old 😭
You would do the same thing. I get it's neat to think people are mentally tuff enough to do the blessed thing and stay loyal but he was crippled beaten tortured to piss lol it's stay loyal and stay like that or sell out your friends and loved ones and become a literal god who can fly around and be relevant or I suppose be loyal and murmur words spit drool and hobble around. Fuck off lol
@@jamestomlin5525 We don't know if they will get freed or not YET. If the Idea of Evil can be killed, then I don't see why something seemingly derived from his creation should exist.
He would've resurrected them if he was Griffith. That's Femto, like oh my god man there was a transformation that existed that stripped him of all good feelings like care and love. Not to say Griffith saw Casca and Guts get into a relationship while he was being tortured made him actively hate him to a particular extent instead of being apathetic. Not to say Guts was the face of his own psychological torture since it was the only thing that kept him from truly losing himself and having the semblance of consciousness that allowed him to still register and go through the pain and humiliation. At that time the Griffith(who was most likely in shock) just wanted Guts to go away from his mind. I'm just saying, if you think IF you had the power of Femto and were stripped of all good in your soul, you wouldn't do similar if not more horrific things than Femto you're laughably naive. read about the banality of evil.
@@Orcheis_ that fool snuck into the bedroom of the daughter of the king of Midland and thoroughly clapped her cheeks and low key was conspiring I would say that shit was treason to they’re medieval standards 🤷🏽♂️
@@Orcheis_ that's the underlying truth, yes. It's also true that berserk and Midland takes much inspiration from medieval Europe, and the Holy See mimics Christianity. That being said, in medieval Europe if a commoner or even a general (Griffith was both), snuck into the princess chambers and had sex with her, therefore stealing her virginity before she could be married, that would be considered treason. For the king, it would throw the kingdom into a nightmare of political and religious turmoil. So I know the king in berserk was gross and had a thing for his daughter, but even if he didn't he would still do the same and Griffith would still be guilty with said precontext.
Griffith was also castrated, SA'd and a bunch of other gruesome methods of torture. The anime truly doesn't do it enough justice as to the very extent Griffith was made broken.
@@TheOneWhoAsked.637Ehhhhh calling Guts “sane” is a bit of a stretch. Definitely handled things better than anyone else could have, but he’s definitely not mentally stable.
@@SHAMIIZEN Bruh u saying like guts didn't nearly die every single day for 2 years? Remember the majesty especially told the torturer to keep Griffith alive. Guts was attacked with the intention to kill.
Griffith is one of the best written characters I have ever seen in a manga! He is one of my favorite characters to dislike and try to understand. To be honest, I still don’t think I completely understand him. Characters like him can evoke strong emotions in people.
Finally somebody who sees that Grifith as a complex enough character, to not just be reduced as “the bad guy". Berserk (just as life itself) is beyond “good and evil".
@@HudsonSheline He is a indeed very hateable, precisely because it is well written. At first the story presents him as a young ambitious gentleman, but berserk is not a fairy tale with humans just battling monsters or demons, it is very realistic as the band of the hawk are not heroes but mercenaries, likeable and charismatic but murders for a hire. I don't think the Casca's incident was mainly for revenge but something deeper, I think it was Griffith testing if he had lost enough of his humanity, as the eclipse ritual per se, is how a person sacrifices his humanity for the sake of power. The torture to which Grifith was subdued is also something to consider (not for the sake of apologize), Grifith was extremely broken, both physically (he was even castrated) and mentally, when the temptation of the behelit was presented, so perhaps Femto as an inhuman being was just testing his regained “manhood” in the worst way posible, not for the sake of vengeance but for a primal instinct of asserting dominance; he was reduced to an almost carcass while the only man that has defeated him was complete and stronger that before.
@@karmacop217i mean the only thing you could say is wether or not it actually was his fault or just destined to happen beyond his control since you saw Conrad and Ubik manipulating him as a child (which tbf could be them manipulating him as an adult in the flashback but maybe they’ve been the old lady all along). But on the other hand Skull Knight and Guts already proved that you can go against Fate so most likely Griffith is just a b*tch and should die anyway
I still think that miura wanted to show griffith's face in the end of the story. Since apostles rivert back to human meaning in the end Griffith would have turned back into the shrivelled body he had before the sacrifice. Just imagine Griffith laying flat on the ground helplessly while guts is standing over him and then we see his disfigured face for the first time
The great paradox of man... capable of the most extreme, unamaginable evil. And at the same time capable of the greatest, most profound care and empathy. Man is suffering. And some people chose to use that as an excuse, others as inspiration!!!!
@Sweet_potato402 What you're seeing is the same hat trick pulled off by characters as diverse as Lotor from Voltron: Legendary Defender, and Humbert Humbert from Lolita: be a good-looking/well-spoken/charismatic enough malignant narcissist predator fuckboy, and a significant amount of the population will buy it hook, line, and sinker. This is why we can't have nice things in real life.
Such things are very common, and part and parcel of a major "religion of Love" back then in the medieval ages(I can't mention it or else my comment gets removed). Removing the "sins" through all kinds of torture, etc. Or invading all other countries that are not a part of this religion, using God as their justification for war. It was a much more cruel time back then, in the middle ages.
I remember before SOTE came out i was so dang sure Miquella was gonna come out in a gay Batman suit at the end after seeing his crazy Griffith arm in the base game.
Miquella is basically Griffith. They both look incredibly similar, and are both manipulative power-hungry individuals. Hell, Miquella even tried to become a god, much like Griffith wanted to have god-like absolute power.
@@acoustic_. I just explained all the ways he is, my guy. I was being hyperbolic when I said they’re the same character. Obviously, they’re not. But there are similarities between the two.
@@Reed5016 calling Miquella power hungry is such a poor judgement of his character. At the end of the day, he believes he is doing the right thing, even sacrificing himself to ascend to godhood. Miquella is completely naive and selfless.
@@acoustic_. He’s still manipulative, and killed a lot of people to achieve godhood. With Griffith, we don’t even know his motivations for seeking power. Maybe he believed it was for the greater good of Midland, or maybe it was selfish. Maybe it was something more twisted. Who knows. What we do know is that Miquella and Griffith both sought god-like power, they both look similar, and they both are manipulative and have done crazy things to obtain that power. Though it can definitely be debated which of them is worse (I’m going on a limb, and saying Griffith is significantly worse).
@@jamestomlin5525 griffiths torture was worse, guts is atleast a functioningperson still, griffith had 0 chance of ever recovering not to mention its implied the torturer raped him
Bro I'm ot tryna be that guy but this is 1000x worse than anything guts has ever felt. Imagine getting your tendons cut, that alone is more than enough to make you feel pain. Not to mention, the torturer probably played with the cut parts too, probably forced him a ton of times and when you get tortured to your face, it's really painful. And he was tortured in the parts where the nervous system is complex. Meaning, he had to experience a lot of pain
After spending a year being tortured, only knowing pain, losing all your human capabilities, living in the dark, losing all you have worked for in your whole live, not having any type of pleasurable experience, griffths just wanted to die man, he didnt wanted to be seen by his group members in such a disgusting and depradated state. He was weak and lost all the conditions to live by himself, this happening after him being able to achive his biggest victories, and maybe, he even could have become a king. I dont like griffth, he's now a member of Gods Hand, but he has a very, VERY bad past. 1 year of pure torture, many people cant compreehend how much hes been through. When he came out the torture chamber the only thing that passed his mind was suffering, and the only thing he wanted was survival and fulfilling his desires. Thats exactly what he did. He is a manipulator, but giving that much power for a person after that much horror was NOT going to be a pretty thing to see.
Just because of that stupid ass king, who can't keep his eyes away from his own daughter and was jealous of another man..... Griffith broke beyond repair and finally chose his deepest and darkest side. Ps: I am not taking Griffith's side either.....
Theres a guy i watched called Doc.offcall, who does nice reacts and honest doctor's opinions on injuries, loss of limbs and all vicious strikes and their impact on the body! He even did a video on Griffith's torture
Well. Pain. Disfigurement. That's all child's play. What's really up is robbing his voice and strength forever. All his hope to ever be a leader and warrior again.
@@souravsarkar4459 after guts left him because he decided to find himself, Griffith went crazy and forced himself on the princess as a way of dominance which angered the king into having him be tortured for a whole year.
Its important to note that the only thing that kept him going during that time was guts. Imagine not only being physically tortured, but also mentally, because the only person you can think of is the person that (at least in your opinion) is responsable for all this. In the end it wasn't his dream that burned him, it was his obsession. For him everyone else were pawns. Tools that he can use to achieve his dream. When he realized that his most important tool will not be his pawn anymore, something in him snapped. For him it felt like he was losing control, like his plans are about to fail. Thats why he slept with the princess out of the blue. He searched comfort and wanted to regain the control he lost. He wanted to know that his plans are still working out and that everyone was listening to his will. After he was done he realized that this will not bring guts back, that he is not in control anymore and that his plans did really fail, which scared him.
Bare in mind people, false accusation doesn't directly mean someone who was innocent. You can still be falsely accused of something you're actually guilty of. The difference is if they have prove or not. If they don't have proof, it's a false accusation regardless of the reality of your guilt. All they had was the Princess' big mouth about sleeping together, which isn't treason.
The people saying guts suffered more but they forget,after that griffith literally couldnt walk neither fight,he was turn into a disabled person both of body and mind
@@MrVimtomelonThat he put himself and them into that situation in the first place, because his fav subordinate wanted to be his own person and all of that was done to be acknowledged as a true friend to Griffith.
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@renebismarck8265 you do know that virginity of noble daughters was almost like a coin for bargain? It was important for politics. Sure, Griffith was a successful general but he was a mere commoner who had no right to sleep with princess. So yeah, it is treason
What’s even more unsettling is the fact that the torturer specifically states in the manga that they even played has “Husband and wife”…I’m pretty sure you can guess what else he did to Griffith not being able to fight back… 😬
Sure sure. But what he did to Casca was COMPLETELY unnecessary and evil. And he forced Guts to watch! I can understand WHY he would sacrifice his band…but he’s not excused for doing it
@@Moldereyes1999 i mean guts literally tried to kill casca a few times, you always have some hatred inside you and no one is perfect, i think thats what miura tryna say. griffith was in his demon form too, which means all the evil and darkest feelings of him are manifested, which leading him to do that, u prob know he had a manipulative obsession with guts, so the moment guts fall in love with casca, griffith grows a bit jealousy and hatred towards both of them, resulting to later actions in his demon form. for sacrificing his band, that was not acceptable at all, but would you not do the same thing? we can all act moral, but when put at the lowest point and give a chance to revert everything, would u deny it for the sakes of others lifes ? griffith is a complex character and no one knows if hes wrong or right, thats why i love his character so much
I understand but that doesn't mean it was ok. There is also no justifying what he did to Casca. The sacrifice was practically over at that point. He did it purely to spite Guts.
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Griffith went to sleep first at the sleep over
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No I didn't
@@FEMTO-DARK Nah u did u just doesn't know it yet 🎅🎅🎅🐈
Rookie mistake
He probably also got SA'd by the torturer. "We were like husband and wife"
Exactly. Something that all the readers tend to overlook along with the torture in general. There is literally no body and brain left in the guy. He's scattered. So he acted shitty. Simple as that.
@@firwy9058 yeah, I mean idk about you but I'd probably abandon my own humanity after that.
[EDIT: GUYS I stand corrected. One commenter pointed out that the torturer was carrying a speculum. That is an undeniable indication that I was wrong]
That's just speculation. "Husband and wife" is probably just a metaphor for them being in close proximities
@buttovelli9198 dog it's berserk. Also some victims of sexual assault have a higher chance of commiting sexual assault themselves.
@@omniXenderman yeah still speculation. It wouldn't really explain Griffith's tendencies when he already sa'd the princess prior to his capture. It's clearly a coping mechanism to reclaim a sense of power and dominance, like sa in real life is
It's also possibly implied that the torturer also SA's Griffith, a quote from the torturer: "We were like husband and wife".
Bro took what he gave
@@terrariaguy216Except that was the first time Griffith was affiliated with SA
@@terrariaguy216better wording might be: 'He gave what he took'
@@NeonPlanes The first time Griffith was associated with sa was when he sold himself to the noble in charge of the judar fortress that we see in the golden age arc it was shown in a flashback after Griffith returned when he was talking to casca how he felt dirty and he converted the emotonal trauma from the sa in to self harm physical pain amd damage being easier to understand and profess then actually confronting the emotions
@@Healthnut69how is thta sa he sold himseld
Griffith owed 1 cent to the cartel
The zetas got him
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“Won’t you to take me to, funkytown?”
Worse the irs
POV you steal a slice of bread in 1807
Underrated comment 😬
Nah, this is more like medieval times
No 1807 was modern we talking abt 1000 ad
Lol in 1807 they were developing early combustion engines and stuff, people already wore top hats and canes. what are you talking about? Make it 1207 and you are getting closer
And u r black ...
All that cuz of a father in love with his own daughter
Outrageous...
Wait what?
King was in love with his daughter his daughter was in love with grifith so he torture grifith for sleeping with her@@Chartus-ij1rp
@@Chartus-ij1rpGriffith fucked the princess and the king wanted to is what the comment means
@@Chartus-ij1rp the king was in love with his daughter charlotte that's why he is also so aggressive while torturing girffith
"Falsely accused of treason"
Griffith was literally trying to take an insane king's kingdom from him. Granted he was going mad at the idea of Guts abandoning him but he fucked around and found out.
What a weird hoop you jumped over. No one knew what Griffith's ultimate goal was, the King was jealous of Griffith taking his daughter's virginity but couldn't say that so he lied and said treason.
@@AgentshadlingI mean but he did commit treason lol, regardless of how much a freak the king is I think him having the queen, the duke, and the most likely heir Adonis being killed is treason. And having sex with a princess in that day in age without consent of the king is certainly treason lol.
@@thomasfisher7391 again, no one knew it was him that did those things. The King had no grounds, consent of the King didn't matter otherwise he would've used that against Griffith, but he didn't because both Griffith and Charlotte called him out at wanting to have sex with his own daughter.
@@Agentshadling I don’t understand what you’re talking about, him having sex with charlotte the princess is the treason he is accused of. Whether they know about the other things or not is completely irrelevant they are still treason. Having sex with a princess in this age without the consent of the king would absolutely have been considered treason regardless of whether or not the princess was a willing participant.
@@Agentshadling mf acting like medieval kings just let shit slide like a cool high school teacher, they'll find any reason to make you suffer
"falsely accused of treason" my ass lol
Having s** with the princess might not be treason per se, but the king was not having it
yeah, didnt he like orchestrate the death of a noble and the queen? Also, tried to get the throne through political means and slept with the princess. That's a lot of treasonous action.
Nah it's just politics
@@huynhvuongviet2410true, falsely is just cuz some people get their butt hurt admitting what Griffith truly us
@@CA_786and Guts and the other tried their absolute best to save him and they did succeed in it and after they did their best to be there for Griffith only for him to betray Guts and do horrible stuff to casca infront of Guts and btw Femto is Griffit and Griffith is femto
Man, the word “dystopian” is a MASSIVE understatement of the Berserk world
Edit: It's just medieval times? Yea when there is demons, underworld beings, astral monsters, a carcass mixed with demons and women💀, a literal god tree, and a false messiah who is manipulating humanity
Uhh, that's just medieval times.
There's nothing dystopian about this, people even did worse things than this in the past...
@@nicolabertini2741 ............. No comment, read the manga 😂
I think you're just underestimating the insanity and madness that existed in the medieval times.
@@bruhman2736 @nicolabertini2741 both of you are kinda overestimating the cruelty of medieval times. Rulers still had to make sure that the peasants were happy, as most peasants had arms due to the threat of tyrannical leaders and the fact they made up the majority of the army during wartime. While it still wasn't a good life, it isn't anywhere near as bad as some think it is. (Unless you lost a war, then looting happens and that's as bad as you think it is)
Back then they would make you sit on a big wooden horse shaped like a triangle, tie ropes around your ankles that pulled straight down. Rip you from taint to tophat. If tophats existed during midevil times.
Just to remind you, Guts came back for him, Guts and the gang risked everything to save him, took care of him and never gave up on him, yet after all of that, he was not content with just becoming the Godhand, no, he went to the deepest pits of evil and did that horrible thing to Casca just because. Keep in mind, he couldve become a Godhand member and ressurected his crew, he just didnt because he didnt want to.
Griffith should get the infinite death loop like Diavolo but a million times worse.
He can’t resurrect those who have been branded as sacrifices due to their souls falling into the infinite void of torment with the apostles.
That was the saddest realization I found reading Berserk at 13 years old 😭
You would do the same thing. I get it's neat to think people are mentally tuff enough to do the blessed thing and stay loyal but he was crippled beaten tortured to piss lol it's stay loyal and stay like that or sell out your friends and loved ones and become a literal god who can fly around and be relevant or I suppose be loyal and murmur words spit drool and hobble around. Fuck off lol
@nic1626 yeah :< they'll forever know only pain for all of existence and never know release
It's beyond messed up, damn
@@jamestomlin5525 We don't know if they will get freed or not YET. If the Idea of Evil can be killed, then I don't see why something seemingly derived from his creation should exist.
He would've resurrected them if he was Griffith. That's Femto, like oh my god man there was a transformation that existed that stripped him of all good feelings like care and love. Not to say Griffith saw Casca and Guts get into a relationship while he was being tortured made him actively hate him to a particular extent instead of being apathetic. Not to say Guts was the face of his own psychological torture since it was the only thing that kept him from truly losing himself and having the semblance of consciousness that allowed him to still register and go through the pain and humiliation. At that time the Griffith(who was most likely in shock) just wanted Guts to go away from his mind. I'm just saying, if you think IF you had the power of Femto and were stripped of all good in your soul, you wouldn't do similar if not more horrific things than Femto you're laughably naive. read about the banality of evil.
How that one bro reacts after losing the 10th ranked game in a row
im bro
@@dariusukun2527😏
“Falsely” accused of treason 🤨 ain’t no falsely, that fool was outta pocket
Ikr
Did you read the same thing I did, like seriously the king arrested Griffith because the king had a thing for his own daughter
@@Orcheis_ that fool snuck into the bedroom of the daughter of the king of Midland and thoroughly clapped her cheeks and low key was conspiring I would say that shit was treason to they’re medieval standards 🤷🏽♂️
@@Orcheis_ that's the underlying truth, yes. It's also true that berserk and Midland takes much inspiration from medieval Europe, and the Holy See mimics Christianity. That being said, in medieval Europe if a commoner or even a general (Griffith was both), snuck into the princess chambers and had sex with her, therefore stealing her virginity before she could be married, that would be considered treason. For the king, it would throw the kingdom into a nightmare of political and religious turmoil. So I know the king in berserk was gross and had a thing for his daughter, but even if he didn't he would still do the same and Griffith would still be guilty with said precontext.
I was JUST abt to comment that! Glad, someone did.
griffith didnt complete his duolingo lessons
Me after finding the person who says “womp womp” to all type of biological being in the verge of death:
Womp womp
jred biting the curb 4k ultra hd
Womp womp
Womp womp
@@jred2day766that womp womp shi corny as hell young bro
Griffith was also castrated, SA'd and a bunch of other gruesome methods of torture. The anime truly doesn't do it enough justice as to the very extent Griffith was made broken.
Mexican cartels when you owe them a dollar :
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Also they cut his junk off
Man just wanted to be a whole complete person again
He shouldn't have sabotaged his plan by having fun with the princess
@@jred2day766 Guts should have stayed his property.
@@sithlorddread8721 Guts had a fair duel with him and was allowed to leave after he skillfully won
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@@sithlorddread8721these are his fans btw do you hear yourself 😂
After a year of that kind of suffering, not even the strongest people can remain sane.
Guts did
@@TheOneWhoAsked.637Ehhhhh calling Guts “sane” is a bit of a stretch. Definitely handled things better than anyone else could have, but he’s definitely not mentally stable.
@@tommcan Upto lost children arc he is borderline psychopath but after millenium Falcon he genuinely became sane
@@TheOneWhoAsked.637 not saying that guts didn't suffer,but griffith suffered 1 year straight being tortured nasty everyday
@@SHAMIIZEN Bruh u saying like guts didn't nearly die every single day for 2 years? Remember the majesty especially told the torturer to keep Griffith alive. Guts was attacked with the intention to kill.
Griffith is one of the best written characters I have ever seen in a manga! He is one of my favorite characters to dislike and try to understand. To be honest, I still don’t think I completely understand him. Characters like him can evoke strong emotions in people.
I'm 13 and this is deep
I agree
Finally somebody who sees that Grifith as a complex enough character, to not just be reduced as “the bad guy".
Berserk (just as life itself) is beyond “good and evil".
@@wolfvash22 I think him revenge raping casca makes him a foul fella
@@HudsonSheline He is a indeed very hateable, precisely because it is well written. At first the story presents him as a young ambitious gentleman, but berserk is not a fairy tale with humans just battling monsters or demons, it is very realistic as the band of the hawk are not heroes but mercenaries, likeable and charismatic but murders for a hire.
I don't think the Casca's incident was mainly for revenge but something deeper, I think it was Griffith testing if he had lost enough of his humanity, as the eclipse ritual per se, is how a person sacrifices his humanity for the sake of power.
The torture to which Grifith was subdued is also something to consider (not for the sake of apologize), Grifith was extremely broken, both physically (he was even castrated) and mentally, when the temptation of the behelit was presented, so perhaps Femto as an inhuman being was just testing his regained “manhood” in the worst way posible, not for the sake of vengeance but for a primal instinct of asserting dominance; he was reduced to an almost carcass while the only man that has defeated him was complete and stronger that before.
Damn bro Griffith also went through a lot...
For the Eclipse to initiate he had to of gone through a traumatic experience where the behelit would find him again
Oh boy you're cooked now
He did it to himself
@@karmacop217i mean the only thing you could say is wether or not it actually was his fault or just destined to happen beyond his control since you saw Conrad and Ubik manipulating him as a child (which tbf could be them manipulating him as an adult in the flashback but maybe they’ve been the old lady all along). But on the other hand Skull Knight and Guts already proved that you can go against Fate so most likely Griffith is just a b*tch and should die anyway
If he kept his emotion in check, then he wouldn't be in the situation. He created a hell of his own making.
I still think that miura wanted to show griffith's face in the end of the story.
Since apostles rivert back to human meaning in the end Griffith would have turned back into the shrivelled body he had before the sacrifice.
Just imagine Griffith laying flat on the ground helplessly while guts is standing over him and then we see his disfigured face for the first time
That’s a good idea ngl
Griffith could avoid torture by talking his way out but he chose to mock the king
I must have forgotten that part
@@petergeramin7195 It happend in the manga I tihink
He was tortured a bit already, but the king was satisfied with it until Griffith mocked him.
"You know nothing of the bottomless malice within the human heart" - Isaac Netero from Hunter x Hunter.
Biblical levels of truth here
The great paradox of man... capable of the most extreme, unamaginable evil. And at the same time capable of the greatest, most profound care and empathy. Man is suffering. And some people chose to use that as an excuse, others as inspiration!!!!
@@themoshpit8341 it is no paradox
"falsely" accused of treason 😭😭
Everything that happens to griffith is a direct result of his own choices and words. Like every person needing an ambition.
hus fate us cruel
He was not falsely accused of treason, he litterally invaded the Princess's room and slept with her 💀💀💀
Bruh the princess was in love with him. Griffith was just there because he felt abandoned after Guts left
he did kill the queen or something but how is him sleeping with charlotte treason
@@S.D.323 Imagine youre her father, the king, and on of the maids told that the knight you trusted is naked in the princess room
Average day in Berserk.
Average underwhelming day as a main character in berserk
It’s still on sight whenever I see Griffith
I could not agree more
The amount of people here defending Griffith scares me fr. Like did we read the same manga??
@Sweet_potato402 What you're seeing is the same hat trick pulled off by characters as diverse as Lotor from Voltron: Legendary Defender, and Humbert Humbert from Lolita: be a good-looking/well-spoken/charismatic enough malignant narcissist predator fuckboy, and a significant amount of the population will buy it hook, line, and sinker. This is why we can't have nice things in real life.
"Look who fell asleep first,prank him jhon"
Poor innocent guy, I sure hope he doesn't do anything bad in the future
The scary thing is people really did these kind of things back then. Sometimes even worse
People still do these things
Such things are very common, and part and parcel of a major "religion of Love" back then in the medieval ages(I can't mention it or else my comment gets removed). Removing the "sins" through all kinds of torture, etc. Or invading all other countries that are not a part of this religion, using God as their justification for war. It was a much more cruel time back then, in the middle ages.
I remember before SOTE came out i was so dang sure Miquella was gonna come out in a gay Batman suit at the end after seeing his crazy Griffith arm in the base game.
Miquella is basically Griffith. They both look incredibly similar, and are both manipulative power-hungry individuals. Hell, Miquella even tried to become a god, much like Griffith wanted to have god-like absolute power.
@@Reed5016Miquella is nothing like Griffith lol
@@acoustic_. I just explained all the ways he is, my guy. I was being hyperbolic when I said they’re the same character. Obviously, they’re not. But there are similarities between the two.
@@Reed5016 calling Miquella power hungry is such a poor judgement of his character. At the end of the day, he believes he is doing the right thing, even sacrificing himself to ascend to godhood. Miquella is completely naive and selfless.
@@acoustic_. He’s still manipulative, and killed a lot of people to achieve godhood. With Griffith, we don’t even know his motivations for seeking power. Maybe he believed it was for the greater good of Midland, or maybe it was selfish. Maybe it was something more twisted. Who knows. What we do know is that Miquella and Griffith both sought god-like power, they both look similar, and they both are manipulative and have done crazy things to obtain that power. Though it can definitely be debated which of them is worse (I’m going on a limb, and saying Griffith is significantly worse).
Now I understand why people say griifith got the worst pain 💀😦
still doesnt justify anything he did, not to mention guts went through similar experiences if not worse but is still didnt give up
Nah, guts had it much worse.
Damn... even how he was born was beyond messed up
@@jamestomlin5525 griffiths torture was worse, guts is atleast a functioningperson still, griffith had 0 chance of ever recovering not to mention its implied the torturer raped him
@@feroniks366guts was raped as a child, by donovan
Bro I'm ot tryna be that guy but this is 1000x worse than anything guts has ever felt. Imagine getting your tendons cut, that alone is more than enough to make you feel pain. Not to mention, the torturer probably played with the cut parts too, probably forced him a ton of times and when you get tortured to your face, it's really painful. And he was tortured in the parts where the nervous system is complex. Meaning, he had to experience a lot of pain
Well, no one wins when we play the suffering Olympics.
After spending a year being tortured, only knowing pain, losing all your human capabilities, living in the dark, losing all you have worked for in your whole live, not having any type of pleasurable experience, griffths just wanted to die man, he didnt wanted to be seen by his group members in such a disgusting and depradated state. He was weak and lost all the conditions to live by himself, this happening after him being able to achive his biggest victories, and maybe, he even could have become a king.
I dont like griffth, he's now a member of Gods Hand, but he has a very, VERY bad past.
1 year of pure torture, many people cant compreehend how much hes been through. When he came out the torture chamber the only thing that passed his mind was suffering, and the only thing he wanted was survival and fulfilling his desires. Thats exactly what he did.
He is a manipulator, but giving that much power for a person after that much horror was NOT going to be a pretty thing to see.
Wdym “falsely” accused of treason 😭
Ah yes a Tuesday in the berserk world
Sounds like a diddy party
Nah😭
Has the best sob story but still find a way to be hated
my bro when he gave the hello kitty girl a chance:
If it wasn't for this torture Griffith may have never betrayed the hawks, sad he sacrificed them all, guts is now the only one
Average Tuesday in berserk
Griffith got the funky town treatment
what happens to me and bro after he told the cartel “all bark and no bite” :
"falsely accused of treason" isn't how I would put it.
dont rly blame griffith for popping his ult but the actions he did is not redeemable 💀💀💀
Just because of that stupid ass king, who can't keep his eyes away from his own daughter and was jealous of another man..... Griffith broke beyond repair and finally chose his deepest and darkest side.
Ps: I am not taking Griffith's side either.....
I could never forgive him for what he did to Kasca
As much I hate to say it I feel sorry for him but that doesn't justify for starting the Eclipse
yes it does
Yes it does
Yes it does
Yes it does
Nope it doesn't
No wonder he went insane after that 💀
"It's just a prank, bro"
Theres a guy i watched called Doc.offcall, who does nice reacts and honest doctor's opinions on injuries, loss of limbs and all vicious strikes and their impact on the body! He even did a video on Griffith's torture
You’re late bro everyone knows
@@griefoflinkocarinaofmajora5159
He can still talk about it.
Well. Pain. Disfigurement. That's all child's play. What's really up is robbing his voice and strength forever. All his hope to ever be a leader and warrior again.
Bro was not falsely accused 💀💀💀
That blew my mind when he said that 😂😭
Right? The hell is wrong with him?😂
Why was he rightfully accused?
@@souravsarkar4459 Sexually abusing the princess, as she clearly didn’t consent
@@souravsarkar4459 after guts left him because he decided to find himself, Griffith went crazy and forced himself on the princess as a way of dominance which angered the king into having him be tortured for a whole year.
watching Beserk before studying medicine ---> watching Beserk after studying medicine. Hits different!
Griffith should get the infinite death loop
As bad as Diavolo was, he didn't deserve eternal suffering
@@lupus-griseo Finally someone said it
Griffith didn't deserve to end up like that. Fortunately he got a body as fresh as a newborn after the eclipse
He had nothing to lose so he went above and beyond to what was the only option for power, becoming Evil at it's finest.
Funky town incident ahh torture
صل على النبي ، واستغفر الله😊
Now i really gotta read the manga, i had no idea he was tortured before turning evil and shit.
“Ay man it is what it is”
Sounds like something the cartels would do
It's daily thing in medieval times.
"Falsely accused for treason"
Griffith didn't know where the money was
I mean, they weren't wrong in accusing him of treason
Still, i can't justify Griffith's action but i can understand it
u can understand him revenge raping casca? do u need help or smthn?
DO NOT FREE THIS BOY, I REPEAT. DO NOT FREE THIS BOY.
Least gruesome event in Berserk
I still despise him.
Just regular berserk things honestly
Its important to note that the only thing that kept him going during that time was guts. Imagine not only being physically tortured, but also mentally, because the only person you can think of is the person that (at least in your opinion) is responsable for all this. In the end it wasn't his dream that burned him, it was his obsession. For him everyone else were pawns. Tools that he can use to achieve his dream. When he realized that his most important tool will not be his pawn anymore, something in him snapped. For him it felt like he was losing control, like his plans are about to fail. Thats why he slept with the princess out of the blue. He searched comfort and wanted to regain the control he lost. He wanted to know that his plans are still working out and that everyone was listening to his will. After he was done he realized that this will not bring guts back, that he is not in control anymore and that his plans did really fail, which scared him.
Bare in mind people, false accusation doesn't directly mean someone who was innocent. You can still be falsely accused of something you're actually guilty of.
The difference is if they have prove or not. If they don't have proof, it's a false accusation regardless of the reality of your guilt.
All they had was the Princess' big mouth about sleeping together, which isn't treason.
False accused? Bro went and got freaky
I’d also become a villain.
Fr
Guts never became a villain, and he suffered his entire life, not just a year
@@moty333 Griffith is worse
@@CSWdenji69 You’re right. In terms of morals, Griffith is much, much worse. Glad we agree
@@moty333are you unstable ?
I wrote a paper about the Harlequin one, watched a couple documentaries and it's honestly very informative. It's mostly sad though.
“Falsely accused” if he hadn’t slept with the damn princess he’d have his dream.
That was too merciful
Tf you mean falsely accused he knew what he was doing
The people saying guts suffered more but they forget,after that griffith literally couldnt walk neither fight,he was turn into a disabled person both of body and mind
Falsely accused man was caught red handed
Damn poor grifith no wonder he became a villain i dont hate him no more 😢
He sacrificed the ones who saved him
@@MrVimtomelonThat he put himself and them into that situation in the first place, because his fav subordinate wanted to be his own person and all of that was done to be acknowledged as a true friend to Griffith.
Sounds like he already lost his humanity before he became a monster.
Well he was sold as a prostitute at a very young age before even meeting guts so yeah he wasn't all there
@@phoenixwright2420Didn't he sell himself to fund his army? Unless there was another instance that wasn't to further his own ambitions.
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Least painful berserk experience:
Did you say falsely accused of treason? Bro you know he slept the princess right? And got caught.
But is that already Treason?
@renebismarck8265 you do know that virginity of noble daughters was almost like a coin for bargain? It was important for politics. Sure, Griffith was a successful general but he was a mere commoner who had no right to sleep with princess. So yeah, it is treason
So bro didn’t take revenge instead he just makes guts life Worse💀
What’s even more unsettling is the fact that the torturer specifically states in the manga that they even played has “Husband and wife”…I’m pretty sure you can guess what else he did to Griffith not being able to fight back… 😬
bro had the reason to become the GODHAND
Didn't he also make suprise love to Griffith or did i get that wrong
I dont remember any mention of griffit getting piped down (other than that time he had sex with a king or a high figure to get some moneeey)
nope, he did do that, he said him & griffith were "just like husband & wife".
@Its_Just_I speculation
@@buttovelli9198 wel i mean its pretty heavily implied & really what else could that sentence mean?
*Griffith torture in manga*
Funky Town
👁️ 👄 👁️
That one kid in my basement
"False accused"
LOL
He LITERALLY fucked around and found out.
No wonder femto was born
What did he done to deserve that
Just read Berserk its one of the greatest manga of all time
He had sex with the Kings daughter, theirs more to it than that though, you should read the book to find out
he slept with the king's daughter and deflowered her, which I guess is an act of treason because they are not married
The anime version sounds like a vacation compared to this
Guts: *"skill issue"*
All the I hate Griffith gang after they get tortured like Griffith and finna understand why he sacrificed :
Sure sure.
But what he did to Casca was COMPLETELY unnecessary and evil. And he forced Guts to watch!
I can understand WHY he would sacrifice his band…but he’s not excused for doing it
@@Moldereyes1999 i mean guts literally tried to kill casca a few times, you always have some hatred inside you and no one is perfect, i think thats what miura tryna say. griffith was in his demon form too, which means all the evil and darkest feelings of him are manifested, which leading him to do that, u prob know he had a manipulative obsession with guts, so the moment guts fall in love with casca, griffith grows a bit jealousy and hatred towards both of them, resulting to later actions in his demon form. for sacrificing his band, that was not acceptable at all, but would you not do the same thing? we can all act moral, but when put at the lowest point and give a chance to revert everything, would u deny it for the sakes of others lifes ? griffith is a complex character and no one knows if hes wrong or right, thats why i love his character so much
@@celanvaril6200he did this to himself he raped the fucking princess he was NOT false accused
I understand but that doesn't mean it was ok. There is also no justifying what he did to Casca. The sacrifice was practically over at that point. He did it purely to spite Guts.
Fr. Ppl really think that guts never tried to r*pe casca when her mind was broken lol.
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