The BIG Fallout 3 Retrospective
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- Fallout is better and worse than you think.
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Timestamps:
Intro - 0:00
Opening - 17:15
Vault 101 - 21:55
Level Up - 38:29
Open vs Linear - 42:59
Karma & Companions - 47:15
Megaton - 50:53
Big Town - 1:07:14
Arefu - 1:11:59
DC Ruins - 1:19:50
BoS and GNR- 1:24:42
Underworld - 1:35:59
Reillys Rangers - 1:39:24
YGSEITH - 1:42:29
Republic of Dave - 1:46:14
Tenpenny Tower - 1:51:24
Andale - 2:01:27
YGSEITH n Guns n VATs - 2:01:51
Rivet City - 2:07:07
Jefferson Memorial - 2:23:58
Vault One Twelve - 2:27:04
Jefferson Memorial Cont - 2:39:18
BoS Revisited - 2:45:39
Vaults - 2:52:35
Canterbury Commons - 2:58:18
Return Home - 3:00:43
Dunwich Building - 3:07:31
Oasis - 3:10:39
Grayditch - 3:20:20
Little Lamplight and Vault Eight Seven - 3:22:45
Enclave Base - 3:30:43
Finale - 3:37:00
Operation Anchorage - 3:51:51
The Pitt - 3:59:24
Broken Steel - 4:09:44
Point Lookout - 4:25:28
Mothership Zeta - 4:39:43
Conclusion - 4:51:35
Patreon - 4:56:36 - Hry
Thanks for watching. Please consider supporting the channel by liking and subscribing. Make your grandparents watch it. Call your long lost brother or sister and send them the link. As more and more comments begin to come in, a lot of repeated questions and rebuttals are being formed. I can't reply to everyone, but chances are I replied to someone else already about something similar. Feel free to take a look in the comments for said discussion.
Corrections:
1. You CAN convince Colonel Autumn to leave peacefully. I don't know what made me believe you couldn't. You can even see the speech checks in the video. I believe you need to pass 2 consecutively to accomplish this.
2. Sarah Lyons will die if you send her into the purification chamber and won't be around in broken steel.
3. Pittsburgh has several essential waterways I wasn't aware of.
4. I keep seeing verbatim from the "we don't want politics in games" is "We like politics in MGS because nuance, and dislike when it's shoved in our face". Yet it crumbles when an LGBTQ+ character is introduced in any form of media and they then complain about it "going woke"
Not to mention that if any games shoves politics in your face it's MGS. What it really is is a deflection of the argument "all games are political in some capacity" whether that's in the game itself or through it's development.
They're real argument. What they are trying to say without saying it is that they don't like what they perceive as leftist politics or progressivism in their games. Including non-white characters? Woke. Discussing capitalism. Political. Get it out of our games.
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Never thought I'd see someone have to correct saying greaser and biker are different. As a greaser I'll tell you, bikers are a giant part of the culture... So it's not far off at all. The famous "look" of a stereotypical greaser comes from brando jackets made famous by a movie where brando played the head of a biker gang. So the leather jackets of the tunnel snakes plus the patches say "biker" side of our culture more than anything else. A lot of car guys paint their jackets while patching has always been a biker thing. Just my two cents..
I really appreciate the little line in the beginning about not making an 8hr video about why "you're wrong" like they did to John at Many A True Nerd. One thing I vehemently dislike about this community is the inability to enjoy anything other than the original games or new vegas. People are allowed to have their opinions and objectively speaking, we would've never gotten New Vegas without the success of Fallout 3. So some chill is certainly warranted when discussing this franchise.
Capitalism isn't bad if checked, by socialist programs, and regulated. We need to regulate capitalism, while establishing socialist programs. This is called capitalist socialism. This is where you have a capitalist economy, that is checked by a socialist government i.e. Norway and the like. Where you have free trade/ supported workers. The reason this makes for a good game is because for the past 70 years, anything approaching this idea was denounced as communism
@@MissSimone02 They say turnabout is fair play. While definitely done with some malice, MATN had malice within his own. Intentionally strawmanning people warrants going "no, you're wrong" because it's literally being wrong about what other people said to make them look stupid. Misrepresenting arguments that sound very suspiciously like what other specific critiques have mentioned and acting like they're stupid arguments is being wrong with malice.
The real crushing effect of your character never really feeling like your own (son/daughter of your father storyline) is the severe lack of companions quests or companions with meaningful personalities. I mean, that goes a long way of shaping your character and establishing them as more than the child of Liam Neeson.
i saw an article a couple days ago about how fallout 4 companions are awesome cuz the did quality over quantity and compared it to Skyrim and fallout 3.....
Nah I wouldn't mind F3 not having good companion quests if atleast main and side quests had choices to roleplay
Tip for the subways: Pay attention to the subway maps!!!!!!!!!!! There are maps in each subway that tell you how to get between stations. Some stations are blocked off and do require some extra footwork, but the subway maps genuinely do help.
I always relied on these, my self. it's where a lot of my confusion with other players' experiences in the subway tunnel stems from.
Holy shit how have I never thought of using those!!!
Yeah, when I was a kid the subways used to confuse me all the time, but now knowing how train routes work, getting from A to B is much easier.
great tip! you can also do this in Fallout
If you stealth kill Roy after letting the ghouls live in the tower then he doesn't kill the humans
Two things: 1) when Fallout 3 first came out, it was such a wile experience seeing my “hometown” depicted in a post-apocalyptic video game, and it was especially fun knowing that Bethesda is a local company; 2) thank you for mentioning the claustrophobic design of inner DC, it was something that always bothered me, too.
I always appreciate these long-form video essays! They take so much time to make but they're always a gem to listen to
If you think I'm gonna sit here and waste my time with such a long video
Then you were absolutely right I'll be here for the whole thing
Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time!
Something worth mentioning about Operation Anchorage,
The winterized T51B power armor you get at the end of the DLC is glitched, meaning it won’t lose durability over time. Which is very very useful when you’re max level and randomly encounter 3 Super Mutant Overlords in the wide open wasteland with no cover
Or when you Speedrun the dlc at level 3 and do the glitch to get every class requisition, the one where you refill ammo and drop it to gain infinite 308, 5.56, 10mm rounds, and then do the Gary glitch to take it all back to D.C. and get winterized combat armor at full condition.... Damn dude anchorage is fucking busted
I’m pretty sure it can break, it just has an extremely high amount of durability.
@@matthewjones39 tooo high to the point it almost never will break
@@thatdog2472 To add on, it does indeed have finite health. It's just a number that's unintentionally VERY high.
The glitch was on PS3. I always thought it was a feature of the armour and would always make sure to play OA first to get it lol
On the topic of Harold, they did sneak in an EXTREMELY low karma action that's never stated to you directly and that's the fact that you can take a flamer or shishkebab and set him on fire- screaming in agony all the while. It's so immensely fucked up in a way that benefits NOBODY
But then I don't get my free 10 points to speech
You can offer to kill him with fire in dialogue with him, and his response makes it obvious he doesnt want that. :)
@@RipTheJackR oh damn I didn't know that, I really thought I found something hidden and cool NEVERMIND
They do tell you that in the game. The tree and the little girl both tell you about how burning the tree is something nobody wants and would cause pain.
"Never stated directly"
..well beside the optional part to burn him popping up after you talk to the little girl.
When someone makes a 4 hour video essay on a game you’ve never played
..... you should play it lol. It's a good time.
@@brandontheurer1372 in reality I have played it, I’m just referencing a meme Ive seen going around
@@quantity1320 I was gonna say, go play that immediately!
I watch I watch
aint gon lie, ive never been able to play. it runs like shit on pc and god its so clunky. new vegas somehow takes a tenth of the work to run
If Harold had stated more along the lines of, "If my suffering means the Wasteland will heal, then perhaps I can endure for a while longer," then I think his questline wouldn't feel as hollow as it does. Having it seem like he still wishes to die, but is willing to let the world recover and fill with life again before he does would've been much better.
maybe let his reflection happen at a later time? If there were more quests in the area, make it more open/change the requirements?
"I need everything spelled out for me since inferring shit is hard"
@@truedarkness4052 seriously.
What's funny is that if you check out most of side quests in F3, almost all of them are just as shallow where they have perfect good ending, or goodie two shoes and eeeeevil endings
No nuance, only like a couple of quests have nuance
not everyone is willing to sacrifice themselves for others
4:36:45
Supernatural or magic-like things have existed in the series from the very beginning. There are "psykers" in Fallout 1 which have a variety of powers such as generating electricity, telepathy, telekinesis, etc, but they wear devices to suppress them. The Master is also psychic. There is a kid in New Vegas who sees the future and he wears the same device as the FO1 psykers. A shaman talks to you in your dreams in Fallout 2. And one of the Treeminders in Oasis also sees the future.
To move away from psychic stuff specifically, there is also a literal ghost in Fallout 2. And another ghost appeared in Nuka World for Fallout 4.
Bro holy fuc its you!!!!! I used to binge your fallout vids way back in the day!!!!!
@@koolrichx Hello 👋
Maybe it's a ghost, but maybe it's just a pranker with a stealth boy :D
@@FatherElaijah neither fallout 4 or 2 would make sense for just a pranker with a stealth boy
Don't forget mama murphey I think she is a phyker but it only activates with chems.
fo3 was my first foray into the Fallout Universe. Despite my love for New Vegas, I honestly have to thank this game for really getting me hooked into Fallout!
People beat me into submission but I held the line until 2015 that fallout 3 was my favorite. 100% because it was my first exposure to the series. This game lived rent free in my mind all throughout middle school. I didn't even truly know about Xbox live until I learned about operation Anchorage and figured it all out. This game really was a gateway drug for me into the late 2000s era of online gaming which I find humorous.
I'd say new Vegas is my favorite, and overall it probably is. However fallout 4 survival (If you have a mod for quicksaves) is the most fun experience I've had playing a video game in a long time. It's up there. The brutality of dying just a few bullets, stimpaks making you thirsty/ healing you slowly, radaway being completely freaking useless, chems having multiple penalties aside from addiction, complete lack of fast travel, significantly reduced carry weight I think they went overboard with this one though, because even with all ranks of strong back and all ranks of lone wanderer I still feel 300lbs isn't enough, increased damage based on how long you've been alive killing things (makes sense) and just the level of freedom you have when building and upgrading your character in fallout 4. So many weapon upgrades. Armor upgrades. A settlement system. Mods for each weapon and armor piece. Clothes with ballistic weave. The amount you can spec out and customize your character in this game is completely bonkers. Lends itself well to survival. My only complaint is the carry weight.
@@thatonetyeguy2330 new Vegas is my favorite it just took me some time to get there.
110% agree. I remember getting new vegas the day it came out (I believe I was in 7th grade at the time. Maybe 13 years old )and thinking that "fallout 3 better cause green is cooler than amber and the DC music is more jazzy/ I hate country music "
As an adult. I don't hate my kid self , I just have a laugh about it now and then while Johnny Guitar plays in my headphones
Got into a car accident the day i got NV at the beginning of summer and couldn't do anything all summer, including playing NV. This was a little over a year after I got FO3 on Ps3 in 6th grade I think. One of the worst/ best part of my life. Miss it honestly
I stand by Fo3 being better than NV even to this day. But it's entirely personal. I put TONS of hours into 3, but despite my best attempts, I just can't give a shit about NV.
Thank you so much for talking about the jumpscare effect of being talked to randomly by npcs in game. In New Vegas during my third playthrough, i was sneaking past a radscorpion and the dude who collects sasparilla bottles snuck up on me (I had never seen him in my other playthroughs) and made me scream. I almost chucked my remote to my screen
Malcolm has a CZcams channel he'll be here soon
"I've been looking for you. Let's see here. Ah got a letter for you, it's from Butch, told me to give this live snake to you as well; good day"
its something about multiple hour long videos about games I like that makes my brain tingle, usually would give up actually playing something or watching any other tv show just to watch and subsequently fall asleep to these, no regrets. loved the video on new vegas, keep going champ.
Video made me think of Fallout 3 and my PC instantly crashed
Man, thank you for these retrospectives. It’s something I didn’t know I needed. ❤
yo dude just wanna say i appreciate these long videos. i literally just have them playing in the background while i do other shit. Love your content bro.
I still remember convincing my grandma to get me fo3 by telling her it was a historical game based in Washington DC
Haha high charisma
speech 100
reddit moment
To add to your point at 8:35. Very few channels that do these types of long-form analysis videos talk about politics in the games. They tend to focus solely on the game and their opinion of the game. Your discussion of the politics and political critiques in these games brings a fresh perspective and something new to the table for the long-form retrospective genre, which I appreciate greatly!
Based, we need nuance and context in our analysis, super rad being a super chad 🤌
Now analyze Nintendogs you FUCKING COWARD
Agreed. Fallout's very premise invites juicy political dissection, but typical gamer reactions to political speak means very few are willing to go into that kind of depth, especially if they fear backlash towards their actual opinions on the factions in-game.
Yes
I hate two types of reviewers:
The type that "skip" politics in game (example the MGS series and anti war messages, Disco Elysium or Fallout prior 4 and anti capitalist messages) and the type that missinterpret the politics (praising Caesar Legion, loving anti communism in Fallout games).
@@rimaq_ Love the anti-capitalist messaging but not the anti-communist messaging?
PLEASE make more of these long retrospectives! They are TOO GOOD to not make! You have done the absolute best job of making reviews on these games. So much better than any big CZcamsr reviews.
I really enjoy these long videos on fallout 3. Watching someone talk about my favorite game, especially this recently, is refreshing
The Crowley "Quest" can indeed be completed without giving the keys to him. the door to the facility is unlocked using them, to which you can loot off the viable targets to gain access yourself once all three are obtained and kept on your person. It would require pre-existing knowledge, yes, but you can hunt out the loot targets and claim the prizes all for yourself without even making contact with him at all
You don't need pre-existing knowledge. If you pass the right speech checks you can find out ahead of time where the Military Fort is and that you need the keys to get through.
I loved the first 4 hour video. I'm here ready for round 2.
One of my most favorite games of all time. Truly my first rpg experience and led me down a lovely path. I've done everything this game has to offer multiple times, and yet I'm currently playing through it again as I go through adult life. It's amazing how much is memorable and stuck with me over 12 years later. Truly love this game for getting me into the series and genre as a whole.❤️
I will bite. This looks good. A bit of the way through and its very good.
Hope you enjoy it!
2:29:35
Mr House explains that when the bombs fell he wasn't quite prepared for it (literally 1 day too late) and he almost died... and that it took years for him just to stabilize and get his systems back online... That's good enough explanation for me on why he's so messed up visually.
I think it’s also worth mentioning that the stasis chambers in 3 were created before House’s in NV. It’s likely that two different teams thought of two different interpretations of stasis technology.
& Doctor Braun explicitly states that the pods weren’t meant to keep occupants for that long. You can ask him why he doesn’t leave & he says his body will “crumble to dust” if he steps out.
I do not wish to sound like i support harassment of any kind, but I do wish to comment on the request to "not make an 8 hour response video just because you like a game." MATN's video about F3 is full of pretty poorly formed arguments, cherry picked examples, and just overall bad writing making F3 seem profound in its game design or world design ways that it clearly never even attempted to reach, or that just don't work or make sense. That 8 hour video that you even say you will not watch is actually pretty well written. It's perfectly fine to like Fallout 3 but we shouldn't lie about its effectiveness in its storytelling or world building or game design. It has some really good things going for it, if it didn't people wouldn't have enjoyed it at all. But it also has a ton of major issues. And that shouldn't be excused just because you like the game and think an 8 hour response video is a mean thing to do to someone.
Edit to clarify that this is coming from someone who loves Fallout 3 and replays it regularly. I'm not just here to write a comment shitting on it and leave. F3 introduced me to a franchise I absolutely fell in love with and I love it just for that alone let alone the hundreds of hours of fun I've had playing it.
I won't watch an 8 hour response of my own vid, but I am aware of creetosis' video and you and I simply have different opinions on the quality of it.
@@SuperRADLemon fair enough
my mans took 7 minutes and 26 seconds to even say Fallout 3 in his Fallout 3 Retrospective. Bold.
I've been trying to get back into writing and possibly even building a TTRPG system and playing around with writing around the system so I really look for content that dives deep into the intricacies of the writing and systems in place and how they effect the player experience and how all the various systems can effect other aspects of the game to give that effect of immersion, just beautiful work man keep up the good work
I never realized that Colonel Autumn was the guy who was with your father when he died, I just assumed this was someone else, because you know of lethal amount of radiation. I thought it was pretty noble of your father to take out a high-ranking enclave member. And it would show that there's more than just one high-ranking individual in the enclave at our big bag scary guy
Regarding the main quest and Three Dog: something I find interesting is that there's actually a locked gate in Hamilton's Hideaway (an otherwise unremarkable location) and the only way (that I know of) to get in is to get the key from Three Dog. It's actually the quest reward for doing Three Dog's quest AFTER finding out about Dad's location from Rivet City, instead of before, and if you follow Moira's quest before going to Galaxy News Radio, there are no less than two natural ways to find your way to Rivet City: first by doing the fire-ant quest and then trying to find the relative for the little boy who's orphaned there (which you can easily stumble on via the Super-Duper Mart task), and second by reaching the third chapter, where one of the tasks just takes you to Rivet City directly. The game basically has a reward for doing the main quest content out-of-sequence. It's kind of clever.
You can also get the Blackhawk revolver from Agatha if you bring her the sheet music book as well in vault 92 along with the violin(in the male dorms bathroom ,in the stall on the floor)
Dude that’s crazy, I found your channel last night with the New Vegas video and you happened to upload this one today. Hype
I'm in a 10 day stretch at work and have completely run out of longform youtube content after finishing Gino Samuel's Chris Chan documentary series. And I have been in the fuckin youtube deadzone for days as a result.
But finally. You have arrived to save me from the last shift I'm working before I get a night off.
I know I'm 3 days late. But please never change. Longform content on youtube is my favorite content to consume. Never change man, never change
Would have been cool if they made Autumn turn into a ghoul but wear a Mask, or do something similar to frank horigan with a super mutated autumn rather than what they did with the experimental injection
Sounds a bit like the Red Skull reveal in the Captain America movie, but a little more hokey. And it would feel like a deliberate "ugly on the inside" reference, to the point of being a bit of a groaner.
It would make sense of some of his actions, like why he didn't want to poison the water, and you can have all of his flowery language be just covering for it. But once that gets revealed, it feels like someone would have to throw out a cheesy one-liner.
Never thought of this, but even thought he used the injection, wouldn’t his DNA still be altered enough that drinking the water would kill him too? I mean that is kinda ironic. Would of been cool if something about him changed, even just his voice or part of his face.
I'm so glad you brought up that eight-hour video essay that creetosis made in response to that other youtuber, i remember starting the video having it running in the background I was working, but I got so confused because the whole thing was just yelling at the guy! the whole situation is pretty hilarious, I'm glad someone else took note of it.
I thought Cree had good things to say, and he is calling out for instance... Jon of MATN saying the bomb puddle _is_ the source of water. OK, I guess Jon doesn't know about the water purifying plant that Walter takes care of?
When was it in the video lol
@@samholik8127 It's when Cree asks Jon, when the latter says he kinda knows where everyone lives in Megaton, whether he also knows where Walter lives.
@@samholik8127 he mentioned the 8hour video essay near the start of the video
@@samholik8127 15:20
2:37:00 as far as I can interpret the situation, the failsafe was designed with the Vault residents in mind. So when the invasion scenario occurs it might be a checklist of conditions so the program knows who to terminate.
But, like you've pointed out many times this video, Bethesda doesn't care about that. They don't want us to worry about the details, we're just here to enjoy the ride.
This was so well written, I’m rounding my first week in a row watching it to sleep!
This dude and salt factory are putting my podcasts to the side pretty easily
Recently got a Tale of two wastelands collection to work for the first time flawlessly so the timing is perfect. Still my fav fallout game, & my first.
[3:57:48] Something of note too, I don't know if it was intentional or not, but The Chinese General, after being talked down, commits seppuku, which is a Japanese ritual suicide from the era of Samurai. This is not a Chinese tradition, nor a modern tradition, and obviously not what happened in the canonical Operation Anchorage.
The fact it was programmed in by the government/army is a sort of propaganda in itself, painting the Chinese in a negative, almost barbaric, light, while also being "cool" for the Americans to experience, similar to how modern recruitment paint the Middle East as backwards and uncultured.
Honestly, I didn't even pick up this discrepancy until I was telling someone else about the game, and which point I stopped mid-sentence realizing I played right into their stereotyping.
A really easy way, and realistic one at that, is keeping some semblance of the signage in the metro system, alongside a singular map the player might find. It gives you direction towards the ends of the lines (even if inaccessible), allows stations that normally held transfers (i.e. l’enfant), and removes the need of god compass. Even if it’s just one side of the tracks, it’s enough to give an idea of where you are and where you need to go and can give players multiple ways to get from point A to point B with those transfer stations potentially being available for the metro
Absolutely love your videos and I've watched the full length of your kotor and new vegas videos. One thing I should point out though I'm sure may or may not have already been pointed out... nuclear is pronounced "noo-klee-er" not "noo-kyoo-ler". Cheers mate keep up the good work!
These long videos are awesome! Somehow though.... they are always over before I realize it. I guess time flies when you are having fun.
Wow. I gotta give myself some credit: that I can nearly worship this game as a treasured part of me and yet still agree with pretty much everything you've said. Probably because you're telling me what I already knew deep down. But yes, one of my absolute favorite games is far from flawless. You've covered the faults as well as Triangle City covers cut content.
Thanks :)
And covered it while also not shitting on the entire game and it's fans. Let's also not forget this was, for one, most people's introduction to fallout and as much as people hate the vault start it's a great way to introduce a pretty foreign concept. And second while I do hate the time crunch Bethesda put on obsidian and wish we could've seen what could have been, these people who detest fallout 3 while hailing new Vegas as the only good fallout In the last 20 something years, need to realize it was built on the foundations of an amazing reinvention of a classic that honestly probably would've never become the flagship series it is now if van Buren released as was intended
As a long time fan of the "post-apocalyptic" genre, I LOVE this game and always have ever since the very first time I played it. It was exactly the kind of game I had wanted for a very long time and I was completely blown away. I'll never forget that feeling of awe I felt when my character stepped out of the vault and I slowly and cautiously made my way to Megaton. Ahh the memories!
Happy new year and thank you very much for this video! A really good analysis.
Wow Father Elaijah
great videos, you are up there with Patrician with how much I enjoyed your analysis of both this game and NV.
Glad you enjoyed it!
makes me wanna experience the game myself
my first Fallout was New Vegas on PS3 around the time GOTY Edition were available, probably the game I replayed the most back then
I hope you like making these long retrospective videos dude cuz I like them alot and it makes for something great to listen to in the background while at work for example
keep up the awesome work 👊
A 12 hour work day and 12 hours of quality fallout videos, thank you
Hi, I am currently listening to this while at work. I really appreciate all the effort you put in to this amazing video. Thank you, and because of this i will play fallout 3 for the first time when i get home, i played a little bit of 1 and new vegas, and a ton of 4. I hope you continue doing these long form videos!
Thanks for listening
@ItsMaikaFR did you play it? What did you think?
@@Vulhala I actually did not sadly, I played new vegas and that was amazing. Whenever I get a steam deck I'm planning on playing fallout 3
I like the long form videos on one of my favorite games. One thing I have to note is the fact that when mentioning the Pitt DLC you point out that Pittsburgh is an odd place for ship building being its located in an essentially landlocked state, ignoring the fact that Pittsburgh is the location of the coming together of 3 rivers one of which being the Ohio which runs all the way to the Mississippi making it an ideal location for shipbuilding. The only argument that I can think of that it wouldn't be would be the fact the locks in the river would no longer be functioning and would essentially act as dams in a post apocalyptic setting.
I hear the frustration in your voice regarding people who refuse to even think or discuss anything that might threaten their worldview or expand their insight. And it has gotten worse in the last couple of years, too.
I never managed to get through fallout 3. It was really nice getting to play it vicariously through you while listening to this video
I love your videos and have watched so many of them! Even those on games I’ve never played.
Glad you like them!
One of my favorite liberty prime lines is “Democracy is nonnegotiable” such an oxymoron it kills me every time I hear it. lol
Anybody catch the Mr.Handy raising the sawblade to the husband before the wife turned around? A foreshadowing of the malfuncting that happened years later lol
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In defense of "we do not like politics in games", many aspects of current "politics" is only ever cultural disagreements, not the actual reality of political understanding. It's the difference between MGS5 using child soldiers versus Borderlands characters making quips about the patriarchy. I love having to understand and explore the results of political choices, not being told what is and is not correct. New Vegas does not tell you Caesar is bad, you experience the world he has wrought havoc upon and are free to form that opinion yourself.
I like when videos have a well reasoned and thoughtful perspective. This is well done
Really love these retrospectives. Only have the oblivion one left and looking forward to it. They have rekindled interest in replaying these games and hope we get to see more.
I recently played F3 for the first time, and did the “peaceful” resolution to tenpenny towers where the ghouls move in, but I never returned to the location again afterwards. I am shocked to learn that after a few days, Roy killed the rest of the smooth skins… So game punishes u for thinking that u did the right thing… Now I kinda wish I just killed Roy.
I did the same thing. Only I came back. And killed Roy. Maybe Tenpenny Tower is an allegory for America, Iraq and good intentions?
Good news, the game punishes you for killing Roy too! I think the game can't "switch" karmic alliance on NPCs, so Roy is shown as "good" to you so it doesn't give away the twist.
I take the karma hit every time.
the only reason I can think of recovering Harkness memories is the "best good" option as it best protects him in the future in case someone else from Intitute comes looking for him? It's a stretch but maybe thats what they were going for?
Love these vids bro and love your choice of games so far all my favourite ones you got a new subscriber.
Thanks!
Y’know the recent revelation about Starfield’s character creation does give me hope that the next Fallout game will have a similar loosey goosey ‘Look at all these juicy options~‘ approach
Just finished the Tenpenney stuff and it didn't make sense in my run either.
- Convince everyone to let the Ghouls in
- Bigots leave, or walk around annoyed with me
- Roy kills Tenpenney (and only him) but no one acknowledges it
- So now Roy runs everything, killing the owner and source of caps for the guards?
Seems like a really bad story, you try to resolve things peacefully but then the "all-good" Roy kills the guy who let them in peacefully, and everything is good. Not to mention, how good are these ghouls if they were willing to massacre every single person inside. That pretty much makes them worse than the bigots, since the bigots just wanted nothing to do with them.. they weren't actively planning to murder all of the ghouls. Idk the whole story just felt really off
Here's the thing, that isn't exactly unrealistic. If we take it at face value, it shows the consequences of immigration by large and without question or caution, if you wanna go that route.
Plus, it's the fuckin wasteland. Anyone can be evil, ghouls are not free from being bad guys just because they're victims of radiation. There's several immoral, evil ghouls in Underworld.
Overall I do agree that the story of the quest is just garbage no matter what, and the karma system is also stupid, but it's not exactly unrealistic, tbh.
It will never not make me laugh to learn that the same people who complain about these Bethesda games being shallow in choice can’t handle a choice with unintended consequences, or that maybe you were just lied to
Actually, bringing back big name voice actors is very expensive. Thats why the FNV base game cant react too much of the DLC via new dialogue for Veronica or Caesar for example, perhaps they ran out of time...
Honestly one of the biggest reasons I'm not a fan of everything being voice acted
That only a partial issue: the bigger issue is Load Order Conflicts: Where if they were to add things likew new dialogue or other things, they'd break the base game more often then not: So they scrapped most of those interactions, except telling Veronica about Elijah.
That is right big money ez work I wish they would use fewer celebs but it's all branding
@@SeraSmiles yeah final fantasy 10 is giving me seizures from playing at for the first time oh my Lord oh my Sweet Lord 🙏
And now I start watching your other videos. As someone who loves Fallout 3, and to a lesser degree, Fallout 4, and who probably wouldn't enjoy the original games, and who gets frustrated when trying to wander and explore New Vegas, but fully understands why so many people love it when I don't, I am looking forward to this video just like the Oblivion one. :)
I've just recently found your content because of your monster hunter retrospective videos, and honest to god I love how different your opinions are on things like this, almost the Polar opposite of mine. It's a fresh look on some games I've been playing for years, almost every video you have posted has given a great perspective. Please keep it up ❤️❤️❤️
I watched your New Vegas retrospective in its entirety. Even watched some parts twice. It’s the best one so I’m so excited for this video lol gonna listen at work ❤
Melee sneaking with flashlight on, lol.
Fun thing with Anchorage is that if you take the Gary body and put it on the simulation chair, you can open his inventory and put all the simulation gear in it as you leave the simulation then loot it back off him and have all the indestructible simulation weapons as well as keeping th rad looking Winterized Combat Armor (Also indestructible).
Also Wildmen are actually pre trog humans that are feral but not totally degenerated yet.
I really wish there was more of the Pitt to explore...
Fun fact, I worked on a stair job out in this part of Maryland, and the dude who owned the home's name was literally Calvert. He pronounced it "CULL-ver", take that for what it's worth, but he had an excellent southern gentlemen accent.
This is such a great video, the intro could legitimately be a video by itself you write so well
Wow, thank you!
@@SuperRADLemon you're welcome! no joke I think you could take any small 20-30 min segment from this video and it'd have more content than most analysis videos you'd find on youtube
Great video, I love watching your retrospectives. Ive watched the new Vegas one a couple times, it’s fun to come back and watch.
Thanks!
I stumbled over him with the monster hunter vids and now I get annoyed CZcams DOESN'T TELL ME WHEN HIS VIDEOS POST
thank you for both reminding me to play fallout 3 again AND giving me 4 hours of background noise for work
Hi sorry if you already talked about this in the video but what mods did you use or did you played with TTW iv been wanting to play fallout 3 mostly to see the dlcs but i never found a guide that made the game stable
edit:nvm i remember why i stop playing everytime after a while just gonna watch the video for the dlcs
I only really used stabilizer mods and the stutter remover
@@SuperRADLemon Thank you very nice video as always 👍
Sweet. I now have content for the weekend. Thank you!
This was my first fallout game, now a days I've played 1 and some of 2. Keep it going bud love it
Ideally we'd be able to ask Harkness for his concent first, but given the context he didn't really want his memories erased, he only wanted to be able to escape from slavery, and the memory change would help with that. At least from our messy plural system perspective, we think it is good to let him access these memories and he is grateful for it.
Props to you for putting it all out there at the start. It didn't take 2 minutes for me to realize this video is not for me.
Good
The irradiated water is a double edged sword for ghouls. It does heal their wounds, but can increase the risk of eventually going feral. So if Griffin did keep selling the Aqua Cura, it would have a chance of hastening the feralization rate of various residents.
I don't think that's the case. Ghouls exposed to radiation don't become feral faster. Radiation actually heals them, so it wouldn't make their brains degrade faster. Ghouls becoming feral doesn't seem to have any specific trigger as far as we know, it's just a time and luck issue.
@@VexdinLord It seems to be connected to a person’s will & purpose in life. Like Dean Domino
@@sirmount2636 Chad Chadino
Man, I can feel the classic Bethesda instability from here.
Also, in regards to your response from stuff from New vegas, I can tell by the decisions you made in your NV playthrough that you and I hold VERY different views (I'm no legionaire, but I also think that the independent ending leaves things too unstable to safely say its the best thing for the wasteland. REGARDLESS). Just because you and I disagree however doesn't mean that your views and criticisms are any less valid. Anyone who dismisses that simply because they disagree is far dumber than the average lobotomite.
You ever listen to the aquabats? Super rad was my favorite song long long ago lol. Love a big fallout retrospective!
Let’s go another 4 hour video I know nothing about but will watch 12 times
Pittsburgh has 3 large rivers that coalesce at the city center so it's a great place to build ships given that they all extend in different directions to the coast, great lakes, and further west. Love the video!
Added to the corrections, thanks
I'm currently replaying this game so I'm really excited to watch this and maybe learn something new as well
Why am i finding gem channels in the last 2 days on youtube! Thank you sir for this gem:)
Can't wait to watch,great job. Any chance you'll play Fallout 2?
I have recently played it and may make a video
Ooh wee a 5 hour video essay to listen to while I'm at work thinking about playing fallout 3
The way you jump and swing the camera is very relatable
I just finished your New Vegas retrospective. Oh boy, was that a long but very good video. Time to watch this one.
way too many dislikes from nerds who don't like that you're bringing up capitalism lol
No 7 in a topic that isn't really relevant to the game
@@rawn9234 what you mean to say is that you do not recognize that it is relevant to the game. capitalism is relevant to fallout, as oxygen is relevant to life-- you never see it, however it's foundational to the process. without capitalism as an influence, the new & old world of fallout would be entirely different
@@rawn9234 Fallout is a criticism of American exceptionalism and lets be honest...capitalism is a very large part of that.
@@rawn9234if you don't think that capitalism is a big part of Fallout's narrative then you haven't been paying attention.
@rawn9234 what isn't relevant to the games?
CZcams sent me here from PrivateSession's and PatricianTVs' channels after watching their Fallout 76 videos. I won't lie, I was hesitant to watch as I consider PrivateSessions and PatricianTVs longform videos to be top tier, and I've seen other popular channels that I won't mention by name, which released pretty mediocre videos filled with padding and "hot takes". I'm happy you're not one of them.
This is a absolutely fantastic longform retrospective. The points presented are mostly objective, and where you deviate into subjective territory you do so in a non-aggressive stance. (Which, as much as I love Patrician, he can get a bit aggressive. )
Any rate, sorry for the long comment, just wanted to say I really enjoyed this video, and I'm looking forward to watching more of your videos. There are tons of longform content creators these days, but only a select few are worth watching, so thank you for making content that is both entertaining and well produced!
Thanks! New 10h Dragon Age video this weekend ;)
@@SuperRADLemon Well then. Don’t mind if I do! You’ve earned a sub. Haha
Fantastic video. Thank you for this!!!❤
I see trees of green, that tree is green too.
That bush is also green.
And I think to myself, I am lost in these woods.
I just want to say, when people say, "We don't want politics in our $THING." They're not saying they don't want political ideas, positions, stances, etc. What's being said is that they don't want their $THING to be bent into a soapbox. They don't want to be preached to while they're participating in their hobby or worse yet their daily escape from reality and the pitfalls of the real world.
When people say "Don't put politics in video games." They don't mean don't have political dynamics. They don't mean don't have moral and ethical dilemma. They mean that they don't want to hear about some current issue in a game about zombies. Their fantasy game shouldn't have tons of snarky comments about "late stage capitalism". And the question of X moral panic in today's day is likely not relevant to their fantastical world.
I prefer to phrase it as "I want a story, not a lecture." but the message is the same. I don't need nor want to feel alienated or evil in a game because the game's writers wanted to push a specific political message.
I've replied to this exact comment multiple times in the comments section if you want to look for it.
EDIT: Here's a summary:
"I keep seeing verbatim from the "we don't want politics in games" is "We like politics in MGS because nuance, and dislike when it's shoved in our face". Yet it crumbles when an LGBTQ+ character is introduced in any form of media and they then complain about it "going woke"
Not to mention that if any games shoves politics in your face it's MGS. What it really is is a deflection of the argument "all games are political in some capacity" whether that's in the game itself or through it's development.
They're real argument. What they are trying to say without saying it is that they don't like what they perceive as leftist politics or progressivism in their games. Including non-white characters? Woke. Discussing capitalism. Political. Get it out of our games."
Let’s gooo another brilliant video essay
Another amazing retrospective channel and giving pretty funny commentary on the topics within, I give rad a 10sheckles/4copper pieces
Wow, that impression of God while you read the Revelation passage was spot on. It sounded just like him!