The interface of the new Germans - put more cheap plastic where possible and spice it up with a large screen (or several) - and now you have a cool design. Everything has slipped into primitivism. Alfa is different (for now... and not all models).
Me too. I personally have no interest in a over teched car, especially with an interior that looks like the offspring from a one night stand between a Slovakian brothel and currys. This is just perfect for my taste.
@@anton.p Tesla started that trend. Selling you a non integrated tablet on a wall as futuristic interior. And the german premium brands were stupid enough to copy it in many models.
Ive always thought of this car as “the drivers choice” over the M3 and C63, especially now that it has a mechanical LSD. It sold a fraction of the numbers too. A future classic for sure!
@@salemgx1963 I think the electronic unit is “reactive” to slip, so it can feel a bit unpredictable compared to a traditional mechanical LSD. That being said, for the price difference between a used 2017 and a brand new model you can look past it.
I absolutely agree with you! Even the I4 Giulias are so nice to drive. Bought a 2022 Giulia Veloce Q4 and the car is so damn good in almost every aspect. Such a good car! In terms of handling and driving characteristics, it's the best car I've ever driven so far. I love it!
If you’re a driving enthusiast who loves Italian styling and amazing razor sharp handling with a surge of power, this is the machine for you! I speak from experience you won’t be disappointed!
Thanks Scott. I just bought a MY21 Quadrifoglio. Whilst I miss some of the tech available on the similar German marques, I absolutely love the way it drives, It may not be as configurable as others but it is a very comfortable daily drive for commuting as well as an extremely thrilling drive at the flick of a switch!
I have a MY 2017 with some mods : shorter springs, 20 inch forged wheels with ultralow profile tyres, GTA(m) suspension software, tuned to 570 HP-720 Nm, no more rev limiter in the first 5 gears in Dynamic mode, more progressive paddle feel and a separate button to open and close the exhaust valves in whatever driving mode. I don't care about the poor resolution of the rear parking camera or the dated infotainment. It's all about the driving experience and the feeling that the car gives you. Even after 7 years there is no better car to find at this price that can be easy going (in A or N mode) or go completely bonkers (in D or R mode). I'll never sell it ! That's for sure.
Almost 10 years old but still - impressiver exterior design - quick - fast - beautiful - sound is extreme good and unique - acceptable MPG - comfortable - reliable - a drivers' dream car I own two Alfas at the moment, one of them will never sold. Need to keep ma age as young as possible with lot of smile on my face :)
I have this exact car, exact colour! Magnificent. I was gonna get a Veloce but you only live once! So glad I went for the real one, these last petrol Quads will become future classics! ❤️
I don't understand why some reviewers go on about how hard it is to say "Quadrifoglio." Just look it up, there are dozens and dozens of people who got it right. It's pretty simple.
@@marcop.1701 are you Italian or a descendant? It's funny when the latter claim to be Italian and can't pronounce it either (thanks to their families talking dialects overseas and not formal Italian)
@@nessuno5403 I’m Italian. Personally not complaining about Italian descendants and their “funny” accents, I take the positive side and appreciate how they try to keep connections with roots. My English is usually considered very good but not perfect as well, so…
@@marcop.1701 I should have added the other deadweights that hold an Italian passaport on account of their heritage. In questo caso, buon a sapersi che non si tratta di cialtroni del genere. Buondì :)
Compliments for Yours Review! This Car is Mega! Period. But this car just for the Right People! Not for All. For the rest pls take Big Digital Elephants that is for the Majority. For me Better a Giulia🍀
Dont buy one. You have been warned. I own a 2017 Guilia QV. In Competezione Red. I am now an Alfaholic. So much so, I traded in my Maserati Levante for a Stelvio QV. In Montreal Verde.
@@larrychew1 I have only had it for a couple of months and so far so good. The boot size is smaller than the Levante. But the back seat area is a little bit bigger than the Porsche Macan if that helps. Overall, the sheer joy of driving that the Stelvio QV provides never gets old. :) What has suprised meis how many people on a day basis compliments the car and colour in particular. I hope that helps.
Had no problems with mine .. serviced once a year. Most are reliable. I have half a dozen friends who own them and have clocked more ks than mine and all seems great.. even better than their beemmers and mercs and Audi
This is the drivers choice. And this is coming from a life long BMW fanboy. Who cares about small resolution of the back up camera. As long as you can see it, that’s enough! No need for all the extra. Just give me that lightning steering and Italian styling.
Nice review..... Love my 2019 Giulia QV and don't find the ESD and the brake by wire as big of a deal as people complain about. The car has been an amazing performer on street and on track. Biggest issue is it being designed with Ferrari influence....hence Ferrari-ish costs. But what cars in this class don't cost big $$$. As compared to the competitors, I don't miss the tech...just more to go wrong in my past experiences. The valve cover gasket issue is well known (on the Giulia) and imperative that you have a warranty and extended warranty to make sure this is covered, because it is an engine out job to replace Valve cover gaskets. That said, one of the most exhilarating, stylish and balanced performance sedan I have ever owned. 🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀
Its such a gorgeous car. Its really my dream car despite me being a Ferrari fan. You just got to own a Alfa Romeo at least once in your life. If I cant afford the Quadrifoglio im pretty perfectly fine in buying the Guilia Veloce. But that sound from the Quadrifoglio is just so beautiful along with its looks.
The I4 Giulia's are fun too. The Veloce benefits from the same chassis advantages as the Quadrifoglio. With the four-cylinder models you also have the option of choosing Q4 (AWD) if needed. The disadvantage in direct comparison to the V6 Quadrifoglio is the sound and the fact that the four-cylinder Giulia's are limited to 240 kmh (electronically regulated), but the I4 models accelerate really well from a standstill, especially with the Q4 drive.
@@noobsaibot7006 Alfa's are niche everywhere! Even in Italy itself🤣. These cars are very special and not cheap either. In addition, Alfa has suffered enormous damage to its image over the past few decades, which unfortunately continues to this day. The quality and durability of Alfa Romeo is really good these days. The Giulia doesn't need to hide from German cars like BMW, Mercedes or Audi. In terms of driving characteristics, emotion etc. it is partially significantly superior to the competition. Here in Germany you see the four-cylinder variants like Veloce, Estrema or Competizione much more often with Q4 than with Q2.
Who cares about the interior’s ‘wow’ factor when there’s no hideous tablet stuck on the dash, but instead a screen nicely integrated into the dash. Much better! Shame the old analogue retro dials are gone though.
@@craigyirush3492 you're a couch expert who's obviously never driven (let alone) owned this car, with analogue and digital instruments. See how they've integrated them here. Your tablet comment is wrong and irrelevant.
@@nessuno5403 dated is a stupid way to judge an interior. Totally subjective. Tablets are what is considered up to date. But they are uglier than the Giulia’s dash. So what is the point of using dated as the standard. And spare me the insults. Used to own a Ti Sport with the same dash.
@@craigyirush3492 again, your asinine comment is irrelevant. I said the analogue gauges are dated, not the interior or instrument binnacle which is the same and remains classy. So, not only have you not owned a Quadrifoglio, you have also not driven or owned one with the new digital gauges. Thanks for confirming you're commenting cluelessly without any practical experience with this new facelift.
@@coldvaper correct, when it became a touchscreen. And I doubt you can retrofit this new diff (from MY24) because they also made suspension changes (based on GTA).
@@nessuno5403 well hopefully they sell a lot of 2024s… probably not though, I never see 2020s and up for sale around me. I see 2017s and 18s sometimes.
Pity that from this final facelift (Q2 2023), unless you option the exposed carbon roof, the painted one is steel. The full leather interior is also downgraded to Veloce spec (if you option the Sparco seats, you retain Nappa leather and Alcantara). In 2024, the only tricolor paint is this red (Etna) as the green (Montreal) has been downgraded to a metallic.
Very informative review and yeah its still looks good even in 2024. My wish was for Alfa to put in AWD that can be switched to RWD at a flick of a button like M3. Enjoying all the way from South Africa, I hope all the teething problems associated with this engine are all resolved now.
Driving an Alfa Romeo quadrofoglio is like owning something very exclusive and unique. It is s very special car, definitely a drivers car, with an Italian flavour. However, the reliability of such cars remains to be seen. Italian cars are never known for their reliability.
@@gfall9780 And the other thing is the cost of replacement parts, especially the ones exclusive to the quadrofoglio model. Getting the parts can be a problem too, if they decide to discontinue the model or if Alfa Romeo should be out of business like SAAB. It is ultimately a very exclusive brand.
Rather than Quatrifoklio it's pronounced QuaDrifolio!
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If you have a car channel at least you could pronounce the product you are talking about properly. It's not as though you don't have enough CZcams reference to go off, especially if you can get Veloke correct.
You can't even spell Veloce right, and he doesn't pronounce it properly either because he says "velochie" (ditto with Speciale, which he says "Speziale").
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@@nessuno5403 I spelt it incorrectly to prove a point - You 'plank
You're still ignorant because you still believe he pronounced it correctly :)
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@@nessuno5403 If you are suggesting his pronunciation of Veloce was anywhere near as bad as Quadrifoglio then that makes you pathetic for both not realising the difference and assuming others should agree with you.
Philip Cliffe don't be a queef with your purported linguistic knowledge. Just because Veloce was pronounced better than Quadrifoglio, it doesn't make your comment right. Stick to your own native language 🤡
But what? I'm still yet to blow *two* diffs on seperate cars like I did with the AMGs I owned... ... in fact, I'm yet to blow anything at all. It's been completetely reliable.
He didn't spell out all changes: - digital instruments - LED matrix headlights - blacked out grille (with new Tonale pattern), mirrors and antenna - mechanic LSD plus revised (GTA) suspension tuning, which make this the best dynamic setup for this Giulia - 3D carbon cabin inserts (same as on BMW M2 Competition) - it has less power front seat adjustments than before - it lost rear seat heating - can't customise brake calipers (now red only) or interior stitching (now grey only unless you get Sparco seats) - downgraded full leather trim from the Veloce - standard steel painted roof now (if you don't option raw carbon roof like GTA) - removed luggage net - if you option Sparco carbon seats, you gain the previous Alcantara trim and higher grade Nappa leather trim plus green and white stitching for the seats - You can still also option forged wheels by Fuchs - Tricolour exterior changes are now limited to this Etna red (new Montreal green is a metallic from 2024).
Thanks! The real shame was really making the carbon roof an option. Here in Singapore we still get Verde Montreal. Fangio is not a color we can option.
Although interior is outdated, I like it more than the current German ones. I just think it’s cooler and more driver focused.
And no stupid touch screen buttons
The interface of the new Germans - put more cheap plastic where possible and spice it up with a large screen (or several) - and now you have a cool design. Everything has slipped into primitivism. Alfa is different (for now... and not all models).
Me too. I personally have no interest in a over teched car, especially with an interior that looks like the offspring from a one night stand between a Slovakian brothel and currys.
This is just perfect for my taste.
@@anton.p Tesla started that trend. Selling you a non integrated tablet on a wall as futuristic interior. And the german premium brands were stupid enough to copy it in many models.
Ive always thought of this car as “the drivers choice” over the M3 and C63, especially now that it has a mechanical LSD. It sold a fraction of the numbers too. A future classic for sure!
Agree❤🍀❤️
Is there a big difference between e-LSD and M-LSD? Last month I was searching and wanted to buy QV 2017 but I just discovered this now
@@salemgx1963 I think the electronic unit is “reactive” to slip, so it can feel a bit unpredictable compared to a traditional mechanical LSD. That being said, for the price difference between a used 2017 and a brand new model you can look past it.
I have a 2023 Alfa Romeo Giulia veloce... drives and handles like a proper enthusiasts car...
I bought one too, and its great indeed
I absolutely agree with you! Even the I4 Giulias are so nice to drive. Bought a 2022 Giulia Veloce Q4 and the car is so damn good in almost every aspect. Such a good car! In terms of handling and driving characteristics, it's the best car I've ever driven so far. I love it!
I love my GQV to death! I’ll be at 100k miles by the end of this year!
Congratulations! I'll enjoy the sh** out of mine too once I get to buy it.
If you’re a driving enthusiast who loves Italian styling and amazing razor sharp handling with a surge of power, this is the machine for you! I speak from experience you won’t be disappointed!
Thanks Scott. I just bought a MY21 Quadrifoglio. Whilst I miss some of the tech available on the similar German marques, I absolutely love the way it drives, It may not be as configurable as others but it is a very comfortable daily drive for commuting as well as an extremely thrilling drive at the flick of a switch!
I have a MY 2017 with some mods : shorter springs, 20 inch forged wheels with ultralow profile tyres, GTA(m) suspension software, tuned to 570 HP-720 Nm, no more rev limiter in the first 5 gears in Dynamic mode, more progressive paddle feel and a separate button to open and close the exhaust valves in whatever driving mode. I don't care about the poor resolution of the rear parking camera or the dated infotainment. It's all about the driving experience and the feeling that the car gives you. Even after 7 years there is no better car to find at this price that can be easy going (in A or N mode) or go completely bonkers (in D or R mode). I'll never sell it ! That's for sure.
No more rev limiter?? How does that go?
You won’t get a pitpass in heaven if you haven’t owned an Alfa Romeo…true story! And that is the Alfa to own!
The enthusiast’s choice
Almost 10 years old but still
- impressiver exterior design
- quick
- fast
- beautiful
- sound is extreme good and unique
- acceptable MPG
- comfortable
- reliable
- a drivers' dream car
I own two Alfas at the moment, one of them will never sold. Need to keep ma age as young as possible with lot of smile on my face :)
I happen to own exactly the same car as in the video - I cannot believe how good it is drive - a true driver's dream. 100% future classic!
I have this exact car, exact colour! Magnificent. I was gonna get a Veloce but you only live once! So glad I went for the real one, these last petrol Quads will become future classics! ❤️
This one Will Be a future classic.
I don't understand why some reviewers go on about how hard it is to say "Quadrifoglio." Just look it up, there are dozens and dozens of people who got it right. It's pretty simple.
I agree, but I’m Italian 😅 anyway, excellent car
@@marcop.1701 are you Italian or a descendant? It's funny when the latter claim to be Italian and can't pronounce it either (thanks to their families talking dialects overseas and not formal Italian)
@@nessuno5403 I’m Italian. Personally not complaining about Italian descendants and their “funny” accents, I take the positive side and appreciate how they try to keep connections with roots. My English is usually considered very good but not perfect as well, so…
@@marcop.1701 I should have added the other deadweights that hold an Italian passaport on account of their heritage. In questo caso, buon a sapersi che non si tratta di cialtroni del genere. Buondì :)
This car looks at least really dynamic/ sporty, not like the new M5 tank. Also great that it has not these black gloss surfaces everywhere.
Thank you for being the only one I've seen on video who explained the electronic breaks and diff well. And I've seen all of them.
Compliments for Yours Review! This Car is Mega! Period. But this car just for the Right People! Not for All. For the rest pls take Big Digital Elephants that is for the Majority. For me Better a Giulia🍀
Dont buy one.
You have been warned.
I own a 2017 Guilia QV. In Competezione Red.
I am now an Alfaholic.
So much so, I traded in my Maserati Levante for a Stelvio QV. In Montreal Verde.
Best color ever made! I have a 2023 Giulia in Verde Montreal. Stunning.
Is the smaller size of the Stelvio QV workable for your purposes?
@@larrychew1 I have only had it for a couple of months and so far so good. The boot size is smaller than the Levante. But the back seat area is a little bit bigger than the Porsche Macan if that helps. Overall, the sheer joy of driving that the Stelvio QV provides never gets old.
:)
What has suprised meis how many people on a day basis compliments the car and colour in particular.
I hope that helps.
This is one of the greatest cars of our time
Excellent information. I want one.
No matter how unreliable it may seem... I simply love and adore this car
Had no problems with mine .. serviced once a year.
Most are reliable. I have half a dozen friends who own them and have clocked more ks than mine and all seems great.. even better than their beemmers and mercs and Audi
Love this car - it will be my next purchase ❤ 2025 upgrade
great review
This is the drivers choice. And this is coming from a life long BMW fanboy. Who cares about small resolution of the back up camera. As long as you can see it, that’s enough! No need for all the extra. Just give me that lightning steering and Italian styling.
Took the words out of my mouth 😊
Nice review.....
Love my 2019 Giulia QV and don't find the ESD and the brake by wire as big of a deal as people complain about. The car has been an amazing performer on street and on track. Biggest issue is it being designed with Ferrari influence....hence Ferrari-ish costs. But what cars in this class don't cost big $$$. As compared to the competitors, I don't miss the tech...just more to go wrong in my past experiences. The valve cover gasket issue is well known (on the Giulia) and imperative that you have a warranty and extended warranty to make sure this is covered, because it is an engine out job to replace Valve cover gaskets. That said, one of the most exhilarating, stylish and balanced performance sedan I have ever owned. 🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀
Scott for Top Gear!
Watching this everyday until I can get a quadrilfoglio
Its such a gorgeous car. Its really my dream car despite me being a Ferrari fan. You just got to own a Alfa Romeo at least once in your life.
If I cant afford the Quadrifoglio im pretty perfectly fine in buying the Guilia Veloce. But that sound from the Quadrifoglio is just so beautiful along with its looks.
The I4 Giulia's are fun too. The Veloce benefits from the same chassis advantages as the Quadrifoglio. With the four-cylinder models you also have the option of choosing Q4 (AWD) if needed. The disadvantage in direct comparison to the V6 Quadrifoglio is the sound and the fact that the four-cylinder Giulia's are limited to 240 kmh (electronically regulated), but the I4 models accelerate really well from a standstill, especially with the Q4 drive.
@@Scheltokeeper I live in Australia so we dont get the Q4 and only Q2 which is RWD. Still fun despite no awd.
@@noobsaibot7006 No Q4 in Australia? That sux! But why?
@@Scheltokeeper unfortunately they did not feel the need or there was not enough demand for it. Alfa Romeos in Australia are pretty niche.
@@noobsaibot7006 Alfa's are niche everywhere! Even in Italy itself🤣.
These cars are very special and not cheap either. In addition, Alfa has suffered enormous damage to its image over the past few decades, which unfortunately continues to this day. The quality and durability of Alfa Romeo is really good these days. The Giulia doesn't need to hide from German cars like BMW, Mercedes or Audi. In terms of driving characteristics, emotion etc. it is partially significantly superior to the competition.
Here in Germany you see the four-cylinder variants like Veloce, Estrema or Competizione much more often with Q4 than with Q2.
What a car the giulia is 8 years since it came out in 2016. And it's still getting reveiws. Over the German garbage out there.
Who cares about the interior’s ‘wow’ factor when there’s no hideous tablet stuck on the dash, but instead a screen nicely integrated into the dash. Much better! Shame the old analogue retro dials are gone though.
The new digital dials are great themselves, especially in the 'heritage' mode. Analogues were too dated.
@@nessuno5403 dated lol. maybe they should stick an ugly tablet on the dash like an M3. Would that be up to date enough for you?
@@craigyirush3492 you're a couch expert who's obviously never driven (let alone) owned this car, with analogue and digital instruments. See how they've integrated them here. Your tablet comment is wrong and irrelevant.
@@nessuno5403 dated is a stupid way to judge an interior. Totally subjective. Tablets are what is considered up to date. But they are uglier than the Giulia’s dash. So what is the point of using dated as the standard. And spare me the insults. Used to own a Ti Sport with the same dash.
@@craigyirush3492 again, your asinine comment is irrelevant. I said the analogue gauges are dated, not the interior or instrument binnacle which is the same and remains classy. So, not only have you not owned a Quadrifoglio, you have also not driven or owned one with the new digital gauges. Thanks for confirming you're commenting cluelessly without any practical experience with this new facelift.
Wonder when the brake issue was addressed. Also wonder how difficult it would be to put the diff in.
Brakes were improved from MY20 (2019)
@@nessuno5403 same year as the infotainment upgrade?
@@coldvaper correct, when it became a touchscreen. And I doubt you can retrofit this new diff (from MY24) because they also made suspension changes (based on GTA).
@@nessuno5403 well hopefully they sell a lot of 2024s… probably not though, I never see 2020s and up for sale around me. I see 2017s and 18s sometimes.
Pity that from this final facelift (Q2 2023), unless you option the exposed carbon roof, the painted one is steel. The full leather interior is also downgraded to Veloce spec (if you option the Sparco seats, you retain Nappa leather and Alcantara). In 2024, the only tricolor paint is this red (Etna) as the green (Montreal) has been downgraded to a metallic.
It is QF...not QV anymore, they left Verde out
Very informative review and yeah its still looks good even in 2024. My wish was for Alfa to put in AWD that can be switched to RWD at a flick of a button like M3. Enjoying all the way from South Africa, I hope all the teething problems associated with this engine are all resolved now.
teething problems?
AWD?
No.
Avuazahc what teething problems with this engine? Another couch expert. And AWD? Buy an Audi Quattro then 😂
Watch closely kids, there will never be a car like this again…
Art on wheels. Stunning. ❤
😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
How can you say it’s not as nice of the Veloce 😂
Driving an Alfa Romeo quadrofoglio is like owning something very exclusive and unique. It is s very special car, definitely a drivers car, with an Italian flavour. However, the reliability of such cars remains to be seen. Italian cars are never known for their reliability.
Please check reports from actual owners. It is Very Realiable
People still rocking their car knowledgefrom 1984...
@@gfall9780 And the other thing is the cost of replacement parts, especially the ones exclusive to the quadrofoglio model. Getting the parts can be a problem too, if they decide to discontinue the model or if Alfa Romeo should be out of business like SAAB. It is ultimately a very exclusive brand.
You can't even spell the model name correctly and you're here to profess hearsay? Comical!
Anthony clearly you've never owned one of these cars. Classic parrot... I mean, couch expert perpetuating the baseless hearsay based on old tales.
Rather than Quatrifoklio it's pronounced QuaDrifolio!
If you have a car channel at least you could pronounce the product you are talking about properly. It's not as though you don't have enough CZcams reference to go off, especially if you can get Veloke correct.
You can't even spell Veloce right, and he doesn't pronounce it properly either because he says "velochie" (ditto with Speciale, which he says "Speziale").
@@nessuno5403 I spelt it incorrectly to prove a point - You 'plank
You're still ignorant because you still believe he pronounced it correctly :)
@@nessuno5403 If you are suggesting his pronunciation of Veloce was anywhere near as bad as Quadrifoglio then that makes you pathetic for both not realising the difference and assuming others should agree with you.
Philip Cliffe don't be a queef with your purported linguistic knowledge. Just because Veloce was pronounced better than Quadrifoglio, it doesn't make your comment right. Stick to your own native language 🤡
This reminds me of 1988 GT6 which burned my wallet wallet quickly...lol
Scott, The Giulia is the modern day....Leyland P76 V8 .... absolutely brilliant car ..............BUT
Evidence disagrees with you this is not an Alfasud
@@robertpawley5715 There's plenty of evidence on my side.
But what?
I'm still yet to blow *two* diffs on seperate cars like I did with the AMGs I owned...
... in fact, I'm yet to blow anything at all. It's been completetely reliable.
Mexxx65 spoken like someone who drives Korean or an old Aussie banger
QV? Its called Quadrifoglio - simply.
You’re supposed to be journalists.. Albeit aussie ones, but still!
Quadrifoglio Verde so QV is just the short form
All the Australian press material calls it the Giulia QV.
@@SirCartieer2900 ”Verde” is nowhere in the official name
It was never officially referred to as QV. It's just Quadrifoglio. Also the g in the quadrifoglio is silent.
@@carsalesthey're all wrong then
The f80 M3 is more modern than this thing. lol
Ok.
forse ma f80 sicuramente è anche più brutta
@@madrx2
Do you always lol your own comments?
You've obviously never owned let alone driven either car, "LoL".
Great review! Pointing out changes in the 2024 that I didn't know
He didn't spell out all changes:
- digital instruments
- LED matrix headlights
- blacked out grille (with new Tonale pattern), mirrors and antenna
- mechanic LSD plus revised (GTA) suspension tuning, which make this the best dynamic setup for this Giulia
- 3D carbon cabin inserts (same as on BMW M2 Competition)
- it has less power front seat adjustments than before
- it lost rear seat heating
- can't customise brake calipers (now red only) or interior stitching (now grey only unless you get Sparco seats)
- downgraded full leather trim from the Veloce
- standard steel painted roof now (if you don't option raw carbon roof like GTA)
- removed luggage net
- if you option Sparco carbon seats, you gain the previous Alcantara trim and higher grade Nappa leather trim plus green and white stitching for the seats
- You can still also option forged wheels by Fuchs
- Tricolour exterior changes are now limited to this Etna red (new Montreal green is a metallic from 2024).
Thanks! The real shame was really making the carbon roof an option. Here in Singapore we still get Verde Montreal. Fangio is not a color we can option.
@@nessuno5403nice to see you on here. I am an enthusiast but you are next level! 👍🏽😊
So 🤔 alfa romeo means...u're the alpha playboy or something 🤓