More Examples Of Why The Horse World Keeps Making More Horse A-Busers
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- čas přidán 26. 09. 2017
- #thinklikeahorse #ItIsNeverTheHorsesFault Kids being taught by knowitall trainers to grow up and not respect a horse for being horse but teaching them to using a whip and hit the horse because horses are stupid and need to be hit in order to make them listen.
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I do not think that this little girl liked what she was doing as well as the horse. She may be as forced to do this activity as the horse. Her facial expressions is not happy and looks scared to me by her look over her shoulder at the trainer. Some parents live through thier child, which I think this may be a case.
I agree. I think she'd be so much happier going for a canter in an open field.
So true. 🤔
My number one rule - it's never the horses fault.
You've got that right.
Its never ever the horse's fault
Mine as well
I’ve noticed that horses jump much better without riders. When I was in a hunter jumper barn as a kid - winning at any cost - horses were just a tool. As an adult I found Balanced Riding, Ttouch and Feldenkreis - so much better for horse and rider.
KATIE agreed. I was really fortunate to find sally swift centered riding in my teens. It’s helped me immensely through my life with horses from galloping horses at track, fox hunting, jumpers, barrel racing, obstacles and trail riding! TTouch too was hugely popular when I was in my 20s. Doesn’t seem like many have heard of it now 20 years later. While there have always been win at all costs riders and trainers, it’s the norm now. MANY kids are selfish and spoiled these days and horse is just a tool or machine to them. Lots of adults too though same way.
I was way worse than that girl! I rode a horse for about a month, my instructor at that time told me that when she began to run I just had to pull as hard as I could left right left right🤦🏼♀️ the horse ended up throwing me off several times each lesson (I wonder why) me and my mom knew nothing about horses so we just did as told:( I also got spurs after riding only a year😳 I felt bad for doing all of these things but I just thought my instructor knew what she was doing😶 I moved barns a couple of years later and at my new barn I actually learned how to ride and handle horses...
Ehh
Nice u learned better
4,000 years a slave: The Horse
Sounds like a book title :)
Hm, this (comment) can take a wrong turn. but yea, pretty much sadly.
Little "Horror" Story from when I was young. I was at a horrible barn and didn't know how to ride well. Every lesson we had to do side passes (Hope that's the right word) and I was really bad at that. Didn't help that the horse was hardly reacting to any aid (I am absolutely NOT blaming the horse here. It was just ridden by to many beginners that were taught the wrong things.) And every lesson I tried so hard because I knew what would come next. (I was holding back the crying everytime). The instructor would come up to us and would grab the inner rein (bit pulled halfway through its mouth) and smack the horse with a crop for every step (really hard) and I always blamed myself and felt horrible (my parents forced me to stay at that barn if I wanted to keep being with horses) Now I am at a barn that doesnt allow bits spurs crops etc. and I am so glad that I have found something like that
I grew up jumping..... :( I’m so sorry for the horse I made jump as high as we did. She deserved so much better... now I get friends I take riding asking me if I teach my horses to lower their head and be in a frame and it’s like wow people don’t think horses know how to carry themselves.... the unnatural is normal and natural is abnormal now.. how sad... all I can do I make sure any horse I touch never has to go through that!!
Why can't people just develop a bond with their horse, a friendship. Instead of treating them like they are a machine to do what humans want them to do. I despise jumping, bits and all of those extra crap people supposedly need.
fuwafuwakitty Thing is some peoplecan bond with there horse and still ride them and jump them
fuwafuwakitty just because one person is riding a horse with a bet they can still have a massive Bond with there horse
fuwafuwakitty Like my horse he follows me everywhere I will sit down he will sit down with me I still ride him he still loves me and I still love him
My main focus is establishing mutual respect and trust.
Brianna------You have a misconception on how horses think.
I was taught that they have thick skin and can't feel it if you smack them or hit them with crops and whips. I never used a whip or crop when riding, but my instructor would smack the horse's hind quarters to get the horse to move. Glad that I ride bitless and without spurs or whips.
Good job! I am a nationally published equestrian photographer who also teaches violin, and several of my students have told me the same thing. Every time, I get so upset that I want to take the crop and whack the girls across the legs, asking how it feels. If a horse can feel flies on their skin, how much more can they feel a whip?
@@hemiola07 Exactly! the moment a fly lands on a horse, their muscles twitch immediately to get it off. I don't understand that they can feel that, but apparently not something smacking their headquarters.
@@simarillion666 Well said! I was recently appalled to learn that, in the mule rides in the Grand Canyon, participants are given a small leather whip that the wranglers call with the euphemism “Mule motivator” and that they call whipping “motivating”. Ride participants are taught that this is absolutely necessary for the mules to constantly keep up with the group and not “space out”; in fact, from what I have heard, participants are told to frequently “motivate” their mules so they won’t lag behind and turn around to go home. Now … what animal that enjoys its job would lag behind or want to go home? The wranglers (and reviews on trip advisor, Yelp reviews) tell ride participants that the “motivator” will not hurt a mule at all and hence don’t be afraid to apply it hard and often. One of my friends recently went on the ride and said the wrangler repetitively slapped his leather boot with the “motivator” and said he feels nothing. BUT … mule and horse skin is NOT leather, and that statement is a belief as old as the Old West and Black Beauty.
I have proceeded to examine videos of the canyon mule rides, in which participants are frequently slapping their mules with the “motivator”, and wranglers telling their participants frequently to “motivate”. In one, a mule refused to cross the bridge and pinned his ears back. As Rick would say, too much pressure, and there was definitely something wrong … like a hazard on the bridge. Rather than the wrangler getting off his mule to examine what is going on and instructing the participant to do the same and lead the mule gently across the bridge, she goes over there to yank on the reins while the mule all the more refuses to go across, pin his ears, and even tries to run away. One wrangler then shouts at the rider “Motivate!!!! Motivate!!!! Harder!!!! Harder!!!!!” The woman on the mule proceeds to brutally flog the mule, and eventually, he pins his ears and lunges forward while everyone claps. My heart sank to the bottom of my stomach.
I am no animal rights person, and I am not against mule rides in the Grand Canyon, but I must say that after all this evidence and especially after hearing about whipping being necessary and the whips being called “motivators”, I cannot participate in these rides. I’ve NEVER seen whips used in Western riding or on any trail rides … and a simple kiss, click, or chirrup can suffice as a “wake up” or “move it” cue, followed by a pat and “Good boy/Good girl”. This information is not readily available, but if you check videos, TripAdvisor/Yelp reviews, and even a brief mention in an equestrian magazine, you will learn about the “motivators.” Sad that this info is not more public and that most people find out when they are ready to go for the ride; if I found out right before the ride, I would get off the mule, say I cannot do this, and ask for a money refund. Again, if you have full control of an animal and he is not overworked, constant whipping should not be necessary. I have since checked reviews on TripAdvisor and Yelp, and notice I am not alone in my opinion when some horse owners have commented about the “motivators” not being necessary and the conditions the mules live in. I am sickened by this whole thing and would appreciate if more horse owners raised awareness too. Mule rides in the Grand Canyon have been iconic for a century, yet treating mules in this fashion, telling patrons it doesn’t hurt them, and forcing them forward is asking for an accident someday. Indeed, they have not lost a tourist off a mule in a century, but given what is going on, I wouldn’t be surprised if it happens in the future … and just because these methods were used a hundred years ago doesn’t mean that they will work nowadays. From what I have seen, many of the mules are in pain … and this should be addressed (e.g. improperly fitted saddles, more breaks between rides for animals, and more) such that “motivating” is not necessary. Indeed, Black Beauty was written for a reason, and from what I have read, heard, and seen on the Grand Canyon mule rides, it honestly looks like something straight out of Black Beauty …. In conclusion, there are better and more positive ways to “motivate” animals to work, and if the animals are being uncooperative, slow, and so forth, adjustments should be made to their care and daily routine such that man and beast will be more “motivated” and safe when descending into the Grand Canyon. Let’s keep treating our four legged friends with love and care … and they WILL work for us!
What amazes me is all those people standing there, including the so called instructor, and none of them noticed that every time the horse landed after a jump she stumbled. Wow. That's a clue, people. A clue that either her knees, legs, something is hurting, she's off balance (from having no free rein to use her head for balance), unable to see clearly (again, she's not given her head to use as horses are meant to do), and all of this is actually causing more pain on her legs, knees, feet, etc. I personally wish I could go tie that instructors head back where she can't see, and then whip her until she runs around in circles jumping over obstacles. Smh. Most people don't deserve animals.
If horses really loved jumping they would be escaping from their paddocks all the time.
Exactly! You'd have to make all the fences 20 feet high to keep them in.
And when their rider falls off their horse in the Grand National they would still jump over the hedge things instead of running around them.
I knew a girl where she had her horse in a pasture the fences where 5 foot tall and her horse would clear it and stand on the other side or start to wonder the pasture owner had to tell her to get rid of the horse or she wouldn't allow both her horses to stay there so she had to give the horse to a friend that has 6 foot or higher fences to keep her in her other horse she takes cross country jumping in a hack no Spurs no whip and her horse wants to go at a full run over those jumps she has to slow him down so he doesn't jump to hard and she doesn't take him on anything over 2.5 she raps his feet this horse obviously likes jumping would he like to run around in circles with a bit being kicked and whipped no but some horses are very playful and love to run around and play her horse I believe is 5 I doubt he'll keep it up for many more years but when that happens she will give him a break and just trail ride with him
It is rare to find a horse that likes to jump but they are out there
Rachel Cone Are you talking about Raleighlink14?
My instructor always yanked on my horses bit.. TRYING to teach me that It doesn't hurt.. well at least I was the smart one 💞💞
I would love to see all these competitions done bitless with no crop or spurs. It's totally doable but some people just don't want to break tradition or can't be bothered retraining horse and rider. I pop over random logs and creeks bitless on my boy while on trails and he's never once refused.
Summer M look up there is a girl that does it bite less and tackless she is amazing.will get the name of the video of your interested.
Yes same we can only hope. In normal jumping classes you can ride bitless
I think you might mean Alycia Burton? She's amazing!
Summer M When I am not at shows I ride my horse bitless. I don´t use whips or spurs on him either. So, not everyone abuses their horse.
Same here, and he loves jumping over logs and small creeks along the trails we ride. In addition, I am training my 3-1/2 year old filly bitless, making it a game and she gets it usually on the second try. If she has days she doesn't want to try or do things she already knows how to do, well that's okay. We end it on a good note and leave it at that!
once I went to this pony club (I don't go to pony club I see too much force and abuse in it, I was there because I wanted to see what it was like) and at the pony club I saw this kid (boy) that was jumping and his horse came to a jump and stopped and didn't want to go over it, so the kid started to hit and beat the horse with his whip and the horse still didn't want to jump so he kept hitting the horse. my mum and I were talking to each other and saying how horrible it was and poor horse and how I could just go in there now, take the whip and beat the boy. The horse finally jumped and I thought that was terrible that the horse did have to jump because he had to submit to the beating and give the kid what he wants rather than having the option to give the kid a taste of his own medicine. But point is a few months later when we went to go check out a horse we found out that the owners of the horse that was being hit by the boy, found out that the horse had a lung infection and that was why he didn't want to jump. Yeah so that was story time. poor horse.
So sad. I wish horses could scream like dogs when hurt!
OMG the horse was probably afraid to jump because it expected the whip every time it approached the fence. Sad how people abuse horses and riding equipment
I was taught "it cant feel the bit or whip they have thick skin..." I now do free riding and havent used a bridle saddle or whip in almost a year
that's great, just thought I'd let you know that it's better for the horses back if you use a saddle as itll distribute your weight better
Forcing a horse to hold its head in a stationary position is absolute bull***p !
We get ex-jumpers at my barn that people donate for the therapeutic riding program after they are done with them.
Them and the two ex-racers have the most health problems and they aren’t even seniors yet. We have senior horses in better condition because they weren’t forced into jumping, racing, or any of the other ridiculous sports.
I can't for the life of me understand why it's so socially acceptable to abuse horses. Transplant this situation to ,for example, a dog learning Agility. Just imagine the outrage if an adult told a child to spank the dog for not going over an obstacle.
Think about all the activism that's been done to save animals from being abused at zoos and circuses with cruel training. But if it's a horse? ''It's okaaay, they like it!'' WTF?
Protecting children and animals is a duty to us adults and yet in the horse world there are so many adults who actively teach children to be cruel to animals that seldom fight back.
It just boggles my mind. And breaks my heart.
Let's Draw, you have made an excellent point.
You opened my eyes, I started horsebackriding half an year ago, I was told whips bits and that stuff is necessery, if I get a horse in the future it will have a better life than most horses, because of you.
Same!
That's how I was taught to ride as a child, it wasn't until I was an adult and researched horse training and horse behavior, that I actually put the horse's needs before my own, and that they feel, and we can form bonds with these beautiful animals. We are blessed to even be allowed to ride them, touch them and love them.
💯🎯
Well spoken, Rick!!!!!!! As a nationally published equine photographer, I witness this all the time ... and even worse when they actually swear at the horse as they are whipping it. I’ve never believed in whipping, and have been sensitive to horse abuse since reading Black Beauty in my grade school years. If I catch these people doing stuff like this, I refund the money if they pay me, refuse to photograph or patronize them in any way , and report the abusive conduct if possible. Unfortunately, even the judges are often on the sides of the abusers, but at one show with ten-foot jumps, I witnessed a judge buzz a rider who was viciously whipping her horse after he refused to jump, and she was promptly escorted out of the show ring while swearing loudly. Good judge!!!!!!!!! Hope that barn witch learned from that incident. And another time, I witnessed a horse at a similar show throw his rider, and then come back to viciously kick her in the head. Good job, horse!!!!!!!!!!! And yet a few other times, I have seen trainers actually take the whip and whip the riders across the legs for too much whipping, asking them how it felt. A violin student of mine who was taking riding lessons told me that horses are stupid and you have to whip them to get them to go, that the crop doesn’t hurt their skin ... I was so boiling mad that I wanted to take her crop and whack her across the legs just like the trainers I heard of. My mom’s friend was indeed wrong that horses are the stupidest animals ever, and you know where she learned that? A barn witch trainer her daughter lessoned with. Keep speaking, out Rick! You are doing great!!!!!!!!! :)
I used to take jumping lessons (along with other mostly English style riding ‘activities’)…. Like many other kids I did what the instructor said because to be honest they are all quite mean. Once a horse I was riding refused to jump one of the obstacles . The instructor told me to get off and she got on the horse and tried to force it over the jump (to ‘teach’ the horse and myself a lesson), while whipping it continuously very hard. The horse was extremely distressed . It refused and she stopped the lesson and that was it. The real lesson was that this was horse abuse
People who say its okay because horses are made to jump do not know anything about nature or animals.
Horses will also occasionally cross a river if there is fresh grass on the other side, does that mean horses are made to swim long distances?
Horses in the wild do not jump stuff for the sake of it. If the can, they will go around an object. They will only jump if there is no other way or if they go into flight mode and need to get away quickly.
And most obstacles they would encounter would only require a small jump to get over. I would say it wouldn't be a common occasion in the wild for a horse to jump a 3-5 ft obstacle, at a run. Even rarer to do it repeatedly and never with an added 40-80kg on their back.
But most riders knowledge of horses only extends to the sports they compete in, and thats all they care to learn about. So when somebody says "I've been around horses all my life" I don't even acknowledge it. It has absoulutley no merit and it is a meaningless phrase. They might aswell be saying " I had toast for breakfast".
Wow. You literally took my brain. And put it into words
To think you're literally not allowed to compete bitless, or even without a whip and spurs in official contests.
because people that run SHOWS know that SHOW PEOPLE are crazy and can't control their horses.
Omg yes! I can see how tired the horse is by the way she lands on those front legs and how she is carrying her head. It screams TIRED!
Y'all should see the horses in the higher up hunter classes..they have to drug the horses to keep them calm and we are fighting to stop that because that's not right :(
All Around Eq riders who give their horses drugs are banned from shows.
Listen to the horse breathing when he pass in front of the camera at 7:34, typical of a horse under to much strain, the completly open nostrils are another cue of this horse suffering.
😂😂😂"Bouncing on her Back"😂😂😂 the whole purpose of two point is to take your weight off of the horses back and give them more freedom and movement over the jump
Yep. This is the next generation of abusers. Good on you for calling the abuse for what it is. We can only hope the message for ending horse abuse resonates with more and more people.
It's even kind of implicitly assumed that horses don't like to jump. The whole hunter/jumper sport is focused on persuading the horse to do it, and horses balking at the jumps is every competitor's nightmare. So obviously the horses don't naturally enjoy it. The first time I saw a vid of a horse knocking the bar off with its back legs, I thought "Holy shit that must hurt the horse. Why is that allowed? Why aren't the bars made out of something soft? What kind of idiot who claims to value a horse would subject it to having its legs struck all the time during the learning process?"
+Anne Haight Very well said! Thank you for making a logical and cohesive argument against the ignorant comments made by people who obviously lack the brain power to put two words together.
Hello Rick,
I wish, we would have somebody like you here in Germany . I am shure, some Germans dont unterstand englisch. Hopefully you never get tired of making videos like this one. God bless you !
When the ears are back like that that means they are listening behind them
its so sad that people are more concerned about rick being "mean" to woman then about the welfare of animals
@Whit W. Wow, you are some kind of an idiot.
@Whit W. I think men just get more of a temper and less attachment to the animals. My dog was abused by men and she still hates walking past my dad.
Gerry Coleman he’s just hardened by the years and years of dumb horse people, horse abuse etc. Being soft won’t get his point across very well.
W W. He calls out men too. Women think that they are always right and they are most definitely not
This why I don't have a trainer. They say they are professionals, ask for a lot of money and show off their competiton winnig students. I was in four different stables in the past few month and all of them had totally bored horses. They didn't react to anything because they were constantly whipped and yanked by the bit. And they said to me to whip the horse harder... hit so hard that it will make a loud sound, it doesn't hurt the horse anyway. So I didn't came back to these places after one single lesson. They teach starter riders to hurt the horse every way possible if it doesn't want to do something. I'm so angry that people pay those "trainers" to teach their child riding.
At my hometown I have a stable where the trainers let you figure out yourself a lot of things. They say how should it work and how should I feel, but they don't push me and neither the horses. My horse didn't want to go across trotting poles one time and my trainer told me to go back and ask my horse again. Ask! No beating, no whippig, no yanking. And he did it perfectly for the second try. I learned a lot about comfortable riding and loving the horses.
Unfortunately, this behavior is modeled so kids don’t understand it’s bad. Why is the horse world ignoring research? They are stuck in the past. It’s time to stop torturing these beautiful creatures!
Golly Rick poor wild horses must be miserable not having a knows better then the horse human telling them where to hold their head.
Faith Abounds at Melody Acres and what's happening to all these wild horses ? They are over breeding? Sure I read that they are going to need cut numbers.
Jenna Hart humans are taking their land they aren't over breeding their land is being reduced. Humans are over breeding. Humans are over breeding horses. Rescues are full of horses, dogs and cats. There's tons of orphaned children.
Jenna Hart Are you really comparing a human thinking they know how to teach how to be a horse...and humans taking away much needed territory from wild animals? Try again.
Weirdanimalboy Comparing no, I answered question I was asked. The comment I made, that spawned the question was to Rick based on what I saw in the video. I knew the horse was going to balk before it happened. On the advice of her trainer she pulled the horses head up. If I was about to jump something and someone suddenly pointed my eyes at the sky I would stop too.
Faith Abounds at Melody Acres I was replying to Jenna Hart.
my old trainer was horrible. my horse didn't understand aids because he was green so my trainer had a fine bit for "hard" horses and made me whip him and always have leg on. she never taught me how to ride with my seat, it was all hands and legs. luckily I had a friend tell me that that wasn't the only way to ride, I left that trainer and I could probably ride my horse without arms or legs now
Logic says hitting an animal continually before a jump...reinforces that Jump=Hitting...
Yeah that'll probably develope into a horse that wants to jump...
I loathe horse sports and "events" with a passion. They're a prime example of idiot people making animals suffer because "it looks cute". I hope one day we evolve to realize how useless this all is, plus who actually enjoys watching a horse full of useless paraphernalia running around in circles and jumping over sticks? Most boring shit ever if you ask me. If you want to actually experience horses you should spend time with one in a setting where he's not living in a box or made to do stupid tricks. Look at it interact with other horses, ride it in an open field, actually build a relationship where it is free to choose wether it wants to be around you and not stuck in a 2x2 box with you.
That is right.
Completely agree with a lot you say. I have not met more than 3 people who genuinely care for their horse, in over 20 years!
Although saying that, the refusal was because she was not balanced, not because he was tired. Horrid way of training
"All in the name, of a pink ribbon." 🎀
Rick you really are my hero. Without you i would listen to my trainer to smack the horse with the whip. Becouse of you i found a trainer that treats her horses like they should be💖 thank you💖💖💖
I saw a comment from someone saying that apparently they think rick said that riding at all is horse abuse, i'm not sure if the comment got deleted or not, but to those that can't comprehend anything rick is saying, here's a reply i was gonna submit. idk if rick deleted their comment or they did but oh well. (reply to someone user named "star gazing" i think)
"Its not too hard to tell when they are swishing tail to get after flies or out of annoyance/frustration type thing. Just look at the horses ears and face and body language. sure, she isnt beating it bloody to a pulp or anything, but the horse doesn't look like it is having a good time at all. She is holding its head up, kicking it, and yanking it around. Why is it so hard to just ride for fun and only jump occasionally if you really have to? also there is no way that every single rider in existence treats their horse like this. Yeah theres a lot of people that do this, but you cant make a generalized statement about every horse and every rider because you're salty over rick making a video showing what's up with this horse. I think you are only hearing what you want to hear. It isn't horse abuse is you are compassionate to the animal, respect that it is a living, breathing animal, and treat interactions and riding the horse as a *partnership* instead of riding a machine. compassionate people listen to their horse and dont make excuses for behavior that they see or pretend to not see(not saying that you do, just using as a point because lots of other people i have seen in person do this)"
While I'm learning to jump I have to use a bit but as soon as I have my own horse I'm going bitless. Also I have no plans for doing show jumping in the future but I'm still learning how to do it so I can ride well. To me, it feels like the sport you learn to ride best with for English riding
probably more important to not use bit while jumping, pain throw head off balance
@@ThinkLikeAHorse yeah, I hate using bits while riding but I don't really have a say in it because it's not my horse
The girl wasnt giving any release on the horses mouth. This was a schooling show that the girl wasnt ready for.
Horse cruelty reminds me of the book/movie Black Beauty.
Where he's happy as a foal, and has good owners, bad owners. And the people act like they love there horse and there horse loves them.
Also that horse looks a lot like my girl.
Rick, it's even worse than you make it sound. Kids instinctively know that the horses don't like this, and with any observation it's obvious. Kids who question what they're told are scolded and shot down and redirected. I lost a lot of confidence when I was made to feel like an idiot for not wanting to use pain to "motivate" a horse, and ultimately I stopped riding altogether because of the barn witches in charge when I was little.
Hopefully you have returned to riding on your own terms.
I was taught like this. Thank you Rick for enlightening and reforming this barn witch.
YAAAAH we converted a witch people yaaaa for that!!!!!
Agreed. I hate to see horse abuse, yes it is ignorance. Too nice of a horse to be treated so brutally.
The other thing most people don't get is that these poor horses are broke long before they're joints are ready. They're broke around 2 years of age. The joints don't fully mature until they're 4 or 5. That's another reason most Race horses and Jumpers break down.
The pony is really pretty 💜🐎
poor kid and horse, this horse is defintily in pain, and on top of that he is very tired, who ever heard of exercising a horse or dog or anyone to exhaustion? this is very cruel. lthe world is full of dummies (not that I am a einstein myself)who refuse to learn from their mistakes. sad.
I agree... I feel so bad for that little girl :( and the horse. She doesn't know that she's being taught the wrong way :(
Kate ponystreet actually if she learned how to gallop and canter trot and walk she should’ve already almost know everything about horses so in my opinion she knows what she is doing and she doesn’t want to do it but if she gets off she will FAIL all her riding lesson work.
The little girls position on the horse over the jump sucks - no wonder the pony stops - the instructor is horrible - it's not the ponys fault - agreed
I can't even correct my horse without feeling bad. Idk how people can actually WHIP their horse like that and not care.
the horse might like jumping, but not 50 times in a row
I really struggle with a lot of the showing world, the horses are stalled for days with little turn out, they are worked by a trainer for maybe 2 hours a week, the owner comes in once a week rides their horse then goes home. These horses get no time in a herd because they can get hurt, most have to be given outlast for ulcers. It drives me crazy.
This is the crap my granddaughter is being taught and I hate it.
I'm about her age and I'm ashamed to say this is exactly what I would've done. Or what my former trainer would've told me to do. But I think I need to seriously rethink how I ride horses. There are so many different opinions about whats right and wrong in the horse world and it's so hard to sift through all the crap information and figure out what's the best method. Especially when you're the only horse person in your family. But I'm taking some time to just do my own thing with one really kind and understanding horse. Hopefully I can get back on the right track.
I feel so bad for so many of these horses. I saw a commercial once for a donation center or something but for some reason, they were showing what they were teaching kids on horses. Those poor horses had kids being taught to harshly pull back on reigns with metal pain bits to get them to trot. I was furious and even though they couldn't hear me I screamed at them.
When competition comes before horsemanship...
This horse has probably arthrosis in his hals. You see he is in pain. And he’s got a bump underneath his hals. You can get it from jumping.
This is why I turned away from the traditionalism that floods the horse world. I went to pony club for a year and after the way they treated the horses and the way they tried to get me to ‘discipline’ and control my pony I left. The traditional horse world is full of bullshit, physical abuse and equipment made to cause pain in order to achieve ‘respect’. It’s not respect, it’s fear. Learn the fucking difference. How can people like this call them selves animal lovers, if they saw people doing this to a dog or a cat, in respect to beating them with a whip and shoving equipment like bits into the animals mouth just so the person can yank on it, they’d scream ‘animal abuse!’.
Totally agree with everything said. Owning a horse is a privilege and we should treat horses as such. These huge, powerful, gentle animals trust us with their lifes and their health, once we earned that trust. They could just kill us with one kick or crush us. But they are gentle by nature and take so much abuse from some humans, before they act out. It's their only way of saying 'It's enough, I can't take your abuse anymore!' That, or they are tought (knowingly or unknowingly through incopetence) bad behavior by their owners.
Using a horse as 'sports-equipment' is such a 'human' thing to do. In my opinion NO animal, wether it is a horse, a dog or some other aninmal, should ever be used for sport. It's the human who wants the competion, the fame or the money, not the aninmal. And too many of these girls, women or men riding dressage, horse racing, or jumping care more about that than they care about what the horse would want or about adverse effect those sports have on the horses (long time) health.
Furthermore, many of these horses are kept in stalls/boxes for most of the day or long periods of time, because they could 'injure themselves out on the pasture'.
In the sports-world the horse has become an object. If the horse doesn't function anymore, it is sold or send to the slaughter house. You can always buy or breed another one.
Sad, sad horse world.
Man, I love the color of that beautiful horse. So sad he cannot be the majestic animal he was created to be. He can come graze in my Florida green pastures & be a horse with no threat of having to "jump through hoops" to earn ribbons & prizes. Shaa, just aggravating, especially knowing the darker side when they are cast away & sent to kill pens for slaughter because the owner isn't satisfied with horses' performance.
“Poor girl here, is being taught Idiots, to be an Idiot.”
Okay that got me XD but yes
I don’t believe horses enjoy being forced to jump and whipped if they don’t. Where is the release of pressure for this horse? There is none!!!!!! If that horse enjoyed it he wouldn’t be resisting and having to be whipped by a mis taught child who like he said will grow up thinking its ok to whip a horse into submission!!! Sad world we live in!!!!
I was always taught that you had to be the boss at whatever cost. I’ve grown up and learned differently and my family hates what I think. They’ll argue with me all day about it. Also I had a horse that loved to jump not like this but out in the field jumping whatever he’d find. He was just a two year old colt and that was fun play to him. I enjoyed watching him play in the field running and jumping over logs and bucking and playing.
As a Jumper, it physically hurts me to see this. To see people believe that were abusers. What has the world come to.
Because you are. Horses are not designed to jump at all. It ruins their legs, ligaments, and tendons. It's selfish to make a horse jump. Just be happy with riding.
I agree. Not all of us use whips, spurs, etc...a few bad riders have given us all a bad name, and it pisses me off! I was always taught by my trainer to think of the horse's comfort FIRST. so yeah, it's unfair to make people believe a certain stereotype just because of a few bad seeds😔
@@forestp334 especially at such Insane heights. Cross country is even worse. Jumps are even more high and are fixed in place. So dangerous for the horse. One false step and they are done for. Horses are over 1,000 lbs animals and they are not meant to be jumping at such heights.
GOD blessed you Rick for being an Animal Lover. This is a teachable moment on how selfish and cruel humans ARE!.
Have I jumped my horse? Yes. Has my horse refused? Yes. Have I stopped and actually listened to her when she refuses? Yes. Do I force her to jump? No, I simply ask the question I have a very anxious horse who has been beaten by the "so called trainers", so now if she ever feels forced into something she will just either rear or threaten to throw me. The only thing she seems to like doing is working at liberty (basically making everything fun for her) So the people that come and tell me that I'm training her wrong because I am not trying to be the boss, I just let them hop on and 'show me'........ and guess what, they get thrown and get annoyed when I giggle. Even after I warned them... So Rick's methods of riding should be something that everyone does, a horse is an image of yourself.
I remember when I took kids riding lessons that I refused to whip the ponies. I was told they don't feel it so I asked why I needed to hit them then, never did get an answer lol
I never done jumping or dressage cause I just don’t care for it and it doesn’t seem fun to me, I like going on a nice hour trail ride and have an outdoor launch and let my horse rest I even walk beside for a while so I’m not just sitting on him all the time
I hate when people push-button their horses, thinking they are like machines rather than dependable, loyal animals with actual feelings. This video was disappointing to watch, she should have treated the pony with more respect. I know some horses love to jump, and will do anything asked of them just to please their owners, but the pony in this video just seems very annoyed and unhappy. I feel like the pony would be more willing and focused on the rider if it were treated more kindly. Also, that girl has her reins WAY too tight, like damn. This is why I ride bitless with my horses, can't stand them nasty things.
Be careful when you follow the masses- sometimes the M is silent. It's a disgusting fact of our society that striking a horse even repeatedly is not considered abuse, and bits are accepted even though they cause pain because it's more important to make money and a name for yourself than it is to care whether a living breathing animal with thoughts and emotions is in distress. There isn't a single horse sport that was developed with the horse's welfare and emotional and physical well being in mind.
I don't know if my horse likes jumping or not. I know she is willing to jump when it's the only way for her to get where she wants to go, I've seen her do it. One time we were out riding in the woods. There was a lot of blow down. I could not judge from a distance if she could step over the one downed tree or not. We got to it and I decided it was too high for her, but she was willing to give it a try. I didn't let her.
As someone who loves to jump, I have to say that horses don't love it. It's fun for them every once in a while, but constant jumping is very damaging and painful.
My horse jumps things when he's playing or if they're low enough and he wants to get across he will pop over it.
But it's still a lot different to repetitive jumping pls with a usually unbalanced extra weight on them too.
Maybe women are in the majority in the horse competition industry. I don't know. Not sure how I'd find out. If they are, I am surprised. I thought it was rich, old men. Had to edit to say that I am so happy to hear people calling out the abuse in these "sports" and I get a lot of good information from this channel.
I don't understand the stupidity of people. Can't you see how tired this horse is, just by watching how slow he is running and how he keeps trying to put his head down?
people stop teaching your children to abuse animals im 12 and even i can see this shit is wrong why cant you!
My grandpa taught me how to ride horses/be a good horse woman. He wouldn't let my cousins ride the two horses Sam and Taffy, because apparently JC was ruining their mouth's. Grandpa said no whips, no spurs, no abuse. I remember when Jaycee came in with blood and bloody horse hair stuck in his spurs and a whip; grandpa grabbed him by his hair took him outside and beat him bloody with the same with whip Jaycee used on poor Taffy. Poor Taffy had terrible wounds on her sides and her butt. My poor 🐴 horsey! Yeah, in the summer, I cared for those horses. I was the only one, besides my grandpa, who brushed their coats and cleaned their hooves. I bought my horses stuff, not pink or purple, a horse blanket and a brush that was very hard, to get the mud and junk out of the coats, even a new bridle.
I HATE HATE HATE when people keep riding in a circle. DO IT DIFFERENT! YOUR HORSE GETS BORED. When I'm riding, I switch it up a lot. I and my baby do different things all the time. She likes different things. not the same things all the time. GEEEZ it gets to me.
Very sad ,and angry to see this poor horse. Obviously not enjoying it. Sadly the horse will probably eventually refuse to go into the jumping arena, and will be beat, then sold, and maybe sent for slaughter, as unrideable. The adults teaching her are at fault, not the little girl. Wonering what those black bands around her knees are for? Is it to keep her leg in place.? No way to learn to ride, and learn to develop balance. Another idiotic piece of kit .
I actually agree with this for the most part. We know how I feel about jumping I like it but the way we are trained to jump these horses ... It's awful
I must have been taugt to ride n jump a completely different way in a whole other world. For first month of training I went 3 days for the first month I never even sat on a horse I was taught how to groom a horse probably pack them up clean stalls probably feed them properly take care of them. Then the second month there was no bit no bridal it was a halter with clip on raines attached to it and a bareback pad all I done was walked in circles on a landline for weeks and weeks to learn how to balance myself and send her, third month came along and I finally got to move up to a trot, same as the other one did that for a month, then a canter, on a lung line, then i finally got to ride in the arena off the line, we did exercises for me and the horse, on the ground an while i was on thr horse. I took lessons 3 to 4 days a week for over a year before I ever got to even start trotting over poles, my trainer wanted to make sure i was set up the right way for when I moved up so i wouldnt be i ybr horses mouth or slamming on there backs after jumps. I was 6 years old my first lesson, and by thr time i was 16 i was doing HUGE shows with ppl 2 an 3 times my age and winning 1st places an grand champion for the day and weekends. Im glad that sweet lady Peggy took the time to teach me all the things she did at the slow pace she did, that way this didn't happen to me or any horse i rode of mine or ones i leased. There are very bad trainers out there so u have to find the one for u who is a good one. And now the horses i do jmp i don't have yo push them or kick them, i ride in a bitless bridle no crop or whip an they are happy as can be in the ring, wjen we turn them out in the arena they'll jump the jumps by themselves lol
I never cared for dressage. Riding western was my way. Your more free to walk, run & play. I walked around with my horse more then riding. He was so fun. A clown, even with my husband. I was relaxed on him & rarely rode in the ring. He could jump his height which was 18 hands & I jumped a 2' post only once, he never challenged me, either, I didn't like it. Horses only jump in the open field or wild when they have to.
You can tell this horse drops his head after every jump. It's hurting him. Too much of what's 'proper' to the eyes of the audience. Too stiff. No spurs, no whip, more fun.
Sorry, not my thing. Both should enjoy being together.
And, I wore a cowboy hat & boots. Never got hurt.
I've actually seen several videos of "intructors" telling little kids to move their horses back to the jump and beat it, then try to jump again. I've never taken show jumping lessons, so I don't know if this is normal, but what in the world is wrong with these people teaching children bullshit like that?
When I was getting lessons and would've even tried to whip my horse like that, I would've gotten a beating from my instructor. She would've gotten me off the horse immediately.
Even though I grew up jumping I do see your point! Back then we were tought to be like that...Not to let the horse get away with anything and to dominate him...I now realize that perhaps there are better ways. But The trainers have to stop telling kids that this stuff is OK...Not only that...if you are not hard enough you get yelled at by your trainer and told to do it...when you grow up this way you just believe what the teachers are saying...Riding is not a democracy..It is like being in the military. YOu follow the orders of the teacher. Period! People grow up having learned this way and think this is correct....We need more people like you amd better training for riding teachers to make things change.
After I have watched his videos I've learned so much and now I understand if my horse doesn't like something and my trainer has always taught me to ride with a loose rein and don't use my rein to turn I use leg pressure and when I stop or slow down I say "woah"
its not the girls fault. its the trainers and parents fault for teaching her how to ride like this
Disgusting trainer, disgusting teaching methods... Poor little pony, sad and miserable...
Hey Rick I'm sure you agree with me that horse jumping and horse racing is very abusive on a horse. Racing horses usually end up lame 3 to 4 years old. it's so sad to see this kind of abuse on animals as beautiful as horse
Not mainly women, mainly ponyparents who didn't get to compete as kids, so now they're pushing their kids to do it. I've had just as crazy dads on the stables I've been at who don't understand that they've bought their kid a living animal and not a bike.
And yes, this video drives me insane, the pony is getting punished for doing as it's told; going calmly up to the jump = BAD horse. This is how you get horses who panic at the take of and break something going through the jump or leaps away from the jumps. And the form is terrible, the horse is carrying so much weight of itself and the rider on the front legs, it's only a matter of time before that poor pony is lame in the front :(
The horse is a partner and your hands are not to control the horse but feel it's emotions.
right-- its wrong to be cruel to horses
I'm so glad that the place I started riding used to be a horse rescue, they never used bits, never told you to kick the horse, taught you to respect the horse and I was taught that from a young age. The place I go to now uses bits, whips, and tells you to kick the horse which I really don't like, but unfortunately I have to go there. If I was able to choose between bits of bit less, bit less all the way!
And then when she grows up they will teach her that when she "outgrows" a horse she will have to get rid of it and buy a new one. Because horses are only on this planet to serve us and it's not like they are animals that have their own mind and don't want to be hit and forced to have metal in their mouth.
You are right... i have seen some horses who like to jump. One horse i know does it even without a rider, he just jumps some times when he is on the paddock. And i tought my mule that she gets some tasty treats for jumping (about 30 cm high...) so sometimes when we are playing she just jumps without me telling her to do it and is like "I did it.. give me the Cookie!" But most horses just do it because they have to and you can see in theire eyes that they are suffering...
Ok, I do have a question how do you feel about lunging whips like the way they use in videos like how to lunge
Can I please get your opinion
I think that jumping horses is fun but if the horse does not want to jump then don't make them jump.
I've met some crazy riding instructors in my time 😂
They never know what there doing either its always "do you want a whip?" 😤😂
If u have to beat an animal while handling or doing activities together theirs something wrong!!!
When people say "pull left" or "pull right" and the kid does that then it shouldn't be jumping, and the horse as Rick clearly said doesn't seem like the horse is enjoying this, it's pointlessly jumping
I used to like jumping, dressage, rodeo, what not, till I found the Mr T and Buddy Show featuring side show Rick,,, side show Rick really explains horse's and herd behavior very well,,,, Mr T and Buddy you're good boys thanks for the videos...