The Story of Permaculture | Documentary (2024)
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- After compiling a little film about Bill Mollison, there was a large call to expand on it and the origins of permaculture, giving some other pioneers their dues. So, here I have focused on some of the people who influenced me heavily when I first became interested in permaculture. It includes clips from David Holmgren, Masanobu Fukuoka, Sepp Holzer, Robert Hart, Emilia Hazelip, Allan Savory, Vandana Shiva, Dr. Elaine Ingham and Geoff Lawton. I realise that there are many more who could be listed but due to the nature of this being a video, I focused mostly on people who had amassed a large library of footage to choose from.
However, here are some more names I think could be added. If you can think of any more who should be on this list, let me know and I'll add them:
Rosemary Morrow, Joel Salatin, Martin Crawford, David Jacke, Dr. Venkat, Mark Shepard, Scott Pitman, Sir Albert Howard, PA. Yeoman, Paul Wheaton, Charles Dowding, Stephanie Hafferty, Paul Stamets, David R. Montgomery, Toby Hemenway, Monty Don, Gabe Brown, Elliot Coleman, Jean-Martin Fortier, Ken Fern, Michael Reynolds, Jeff Lowenfels, Graham Bell, Ernst Gotsch, Wes Jackson, Guy Baldwin, Douglas Bullock, Joe Bullock, Sam Bullock, Marco Chung-shu Lam, Dan Dorsey, Cynthia Edwards, Jean Eisenhower, Ianto Evans, Darrell Frey, Joel Glanzberg, Ben Haggard, Dan Hemenway, Simon Henderson, Jude Hobbs, Dick Hogan, John Howe, Sego Jackson, Larry Korn, Richard Kuhnel, Rick Landt, Susan Lein, Art Ludwig, Mike Maki, Chuck Marsh, Vicki Marvick, Patricia Michael, Tim Murphy, Jerome Osentowski, Vince Pastore, Michael Pilarski, John Quinney, Bill Roley, Barbara Rose, Larry Santoyo, Ali Sharif, Dawn Shiner, Adam Turtle, Sue Turtle, John Valenzuela, Rick Valley, Richard Wade, Tom Ward, Marianne Scott, Bruce Bebe, Michael Howden, Bruce Hill, Bill Howe, Stuart Hill, Oliver Kellhammer, Monica Kuhn, Liz Richardson, Alejandra Caballero, Jose Caballero, Tammy Turner, J. Russel Smith, Toyohiko Kagawa, Andrew Millison, Jim Cronin, Suzie Cahn, Mike Cahn, Diego Footer, Morag Gamble, Richard Perkins, Justn Rhodes, Ron Finley, Rudolf Steiner, Anna Maria Primavesi, Rachel Stout, Rachel Carson, Art Ludwig, Brad Lancaster, G. Nammalvar, John D. Liu, Warren Brush, Brock Dolman, Margie Bushman, John Todd, Mike Gonella, Jono Neiger, Julius Piti, Michael Nickels, Bill Wilson, Padma and Narsanna Koppula, Andy Goldring, Mugove Walter Nyika, Jeunesse Park, Daniel Parra Hensel, Jessi Bloom, Dave Boehnlein, Graham Burnett, Patrick Whitefield, Afshan Omar, Stacia Nordin, Matt Powers, Master Cho, Ruth Stout, Paul Gauchi, Billy Bond, Dr. Ken Berry, Ben Falk, Zach Weiss, Ana Primavesi, Darren Doherty, Ray Archulletta, Dan Kittredge, Nicole Masters, Dr. Christine Jones, Penny Livingston, Stephen Brooks, Tim Miller, Perrine and Charles Hervé-Gruyer, Moritz Schreber, Skye Jin, Yacouba Sawadogo, Vijay Kumar, Didi Pershouse, Walter Jehne, Julie Firth, Starhalk, Charles Williams, Pandora Thomas, Ann & Gord Baird, Erik Ohlsen, Saragh Pugh, Maddy & Tim Harland, Hannah Moloney, Michael Judd, Conor Kendrew, Stefan Sobkowiak... Lots so far! Keep 'em coming!
Video footage credits and appreciation to the folks behind the scenes:
Leaf of Life, Dogs Go Woof Productions, Metabolism of Cities,
220 Productions, Tagari Publications, Happen Films,
Rodale Press, Salbong Tokyo, Crystal Lake Video Productions,
Clin D’oeil Video, Fig Multimedia Tech, HB PeÅ Holmquist Film,
The Seeds of Vandana Shiva, Sustainable Studies, Matt Powers,
Diego Footer, Heart and Soil TV, Permaculture News,
Discover Permaculture with Geoff Lawton, Frank Gapinski,
Ecofilms, International Permaculture Convergence,
Rob Avis, Verge Permaculture, Soil Food Web School LLC
Film by Shane Hatton, Bosco's Garden
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Hiya Folks, Hope ye enjoyed this. As I said above, let me know who your favourite permaculture and natural farming pioneers are and I'll add them to the list in the video description! ✌❤ 🌳
Update: Wow, this list is really getting long... Well worth checking it out if you're looking for topics to research. Keep the names coming!
I was also emailed a list of the original PDC students in North America in the early '80s. If anybody has similar lists from other continents it would be great to add those too.
Thank you for this video! I have known a little about permaculture for about the past 8 or 9 years, but your video has introduced me to its beginnings....and now I am utterly fascinated! I'm in my 50's, and getting ready to finally have a garden(I've been waiting for years to have a place!). While I won't be able to have a cow or pigs or goats, I can certainly raise some chickens and landscape my garden sustainably and organically. Best wishes!
@Heartofahomesteader You're most welcome! Glad it made an impact. Best of luck on your venture! Cows, pigs and goats can be quite a bit of work for one person ontop of caring for a veg garden, so chickens should suit you nicely. Ducks are a lot of fun, too, and are even easier to take care of in my experience. The breed, 'Khaki Campbell', or quacky campbells as I like to call them, are great slug eaters and lay delicious eggs. They're very lovable. 😆
Ernst Gotsch is meine Pioneer 😊 Respekt ❤
@@BoscosGarden Great information! We have a massive slug population in NC, so any help we can get is valuable...Thank you so much!
Larry Santoyo, Bill Roley , Warren Brush, Brock Dolman, Margie Bushman, John Todd, Mike Gonella, Jono Neiger, Julius Piti, Michael Nickels,Bill Wilson,Padma and Narsanna Koppula,Andy Goldring,Mugove Walter Nyika,Jeunesse Park, Daniel Parra Hensel,Jude Hobbs, Jessi Bloom, Dave Boehnlein,Graham Burnett,Aranya,Aranya, Patrick Whitefield, Afshan Omar,Stacia Nordin there are so many more Robyn Francis, has an extensive list of women permaculture teachers from 1980's to present and there are so many more
I am really impressed by Andrew Millison his beautiful educational videos on permaculture that he has on CZcams. Also him visiting projects in India, Africa, China etc. is inspiring. Otherwise a great summary of inspiring people in the permaculture sphere.
He's brilliant. I thought he was a bit young for the list, but I'll add him, sure.
Hands down the best videos for visual people like me.
Yes, he was the individual I was going to suggest. His illustrations of permaculture systems are fantastic, they really allow one to get one's head around these concepts.
He's unreasonably good at his work. His onlinr PDC course is available and I couldn't suggest a better teacher.
And his co-teacher, Marisha Auerbach at Permaculture Rising/Fertile Ground near Olympia, WA. She and Kelda Lorax (in Oklahoma, Divine Earth Garden Project) were my PDC teachers in 2010! Many more wonderful permies here in the Pacific NW. I'll add more below.
My inspiration in Brazil is Ernst Gotsch, pioneer of Syntropic Agriculture or Agroforestry, an incredible work of sustainable production.
While not directly in the ancestral lineage of Permaculture, I think P.A. Yeomans (Water For Every Farm, 1973) work on hydrology, keyline design, earthworks, and scale of permanence are critical pieces that have been incorporated into the work of permaculture and regenerative agriculture today. For anyone interested, Darren Doherty has some excellent videos on these concepts in practice on his YT channel Regrarians Ltd.
And another newer (last 20ish years) “pioneer” that I haven’t seen mentioned in the comments and is putting out some great content on his YT channel is Ben Falk. His work on whole systems design is excellent.
I had P.A Yeomans in my original list. He was definitely a major influence on earthworks, according to David Holmgren. Thanks for pointing out Darren Doherty/Regrarians Ltd. Seems like a good resource. Ben Falk is on the list too. Someone else beat you to it.
I would like to mention Morag Gamble of Queensland Australia. She was the one getting me thinking through her CZcams videos, and through the suggestions, I found many of the channels of the people mentioned in this video.
She's brilliant. Have her on the list.
I feel so proud, as an Australian, to have links to the permaculture movements. The hairs are standing up on my neck. At one time or another, I have either read about or seen on CZcams so many of these marvelous people who have inspired me to keep maintaining my existing Food Forest and inspiring me to create new ones. Cheers!
Good on ya mate! :)
Living in a semi arid environment, my inspirations to dive in were Art Ludwig (greywater) and Brad Lancaster (rainwater)
Brilliant! Just added them.
Great meditative overview. Ernst Gotsch syntropic agroforestry I'm practicing it in Kenya it's very good, also good to include . Also , Matt Powers
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I hope you have been able to save a lot of your permaculture forest from the floods. We do think about our friends around d theworld and hope for the best for you! From south Texas, USA.
@@variyasalo2581 Oh thank you, the watershed management I did is actually working perfectly to relief the overflow on the level sill spillways and discharge points. It's nice to watch it save us from drought or flood and the satisfaction of some good shovel engineering. Thank you very much, funny enough we moved here from Houston and I was born in North Texas but Kenya is now home
🌿 Wow, you’re going to have a huge long list of great people in Permaculture… may I recommend making a “Family Tree” of all the names, by rough date, with the branches representing different methods of working the land within the Permaculture Family?
I love your compilation here! I don’t know how much I’ve incorporated the ideas into my gardening, but the insects and birds love being here in my yard where I mow paths around whichever flowers are coming up, so much of the back yard always looks like a meadow. The lightening bugs love it too.
It would be awesome to truly understand this way of gardening and be able to do it where I am fully moving one of the days… in the Black Forest near the corners of D, CH, and F.
I was stationed in Sembach, close to Frankfurt. I loved Germany and the Germans I met. I often was spoken to in German, until they heard my atrocious accent! It also helped, I think, that I'm a tall, blue-eyed blonde!
Is the a reason Paul Wheaton isn't mentioned? His site Permies has so much free info its daunting at times!
You're right, Paul Wheaton deserves a lot of credit, and I had thought of mentioning him in the actual video but didn't think most other people would appreciate him as much as I do (being a permaculture techy and digital creator). He played a huge role in bringing permaculture to the digital world back in the late 90s and is probably the reason that most of my generation came to know permaculture in the first place. I'm also a big fan of his no bullshit, realistic approach to things. 😅
Paul was my first “professional” permaculture teacher! 💚
J. Russel Smith wrote Tree Crops: A Permanent Agriculture in 1929. This inspired Toyohiko Kagawa in Japan, who inspired Robert Hart in Britain.
Oh yes, very good. Just added.
Larry Korn, I discover permaculture some 12y ago now, was amazed by sentence " you can solve all the worlds problem in the garden", heard it from Geoff but I think it was originally from mr Mollison. but I watched Larry Korn on some free PDC that was available back in the days, and find mine inspiration, now living last 3y in strawbale house on small regenerative farm in Croatia. rgds to all permaculturists out there
Love that phrase as well. Has stuck with me since I first heard it, too.
It was Bill Mollison.
World's problems wouldn't even appear if we never left our gardens. We know we are on a destructive path by ignoring the healthy living in nature yet most of us lack the will to act for the good of the whole by emptying right now the system's controlling cities to embrace our planet, this is our romanian's offgrid family constant question for those that visit us here on the hill, if you notice so much sickness in city living and all these reversed valued why not act right now, drop your enslaving corporatist jobs and grow own food? And all of you, 'citizens',why are you so scared of, since it is for the good of our children and the next generations?
I was struck by how many of our teachers are Ancestors now. We lost Larry some years back. I'd had the privilege to know him in person as well as read his books and hear him speak. Such a kind man. Same with Toby Hemenway. His "Gaia's Garden" was my "gateway book" to permaculture though I had friends who were leading me that way already. I was lucky enough to hear him speak not long before he died. Both of these men were lost way too soon. But, oh, what they accomplished while they were here!
@@Earthdaughter48 Gaia's Garden is always near me :-), although mine English is not perfect it is magnificent book nevertheless
Thank you so much for making this! So useful to learn a bit about some of the major trailblazers who laid the foundations for so many movements surrounding permaculture!
You're most welcome!
Thank You for this beautiful resource you have created......
As you asked!!! My Permaculture hero is my eldest son Conor Kendrew.
He did his PDC as a young man and its effect on him (and his ability to communicate) has meant that so many others have just had to follow!!!!
People are naturally inquisitive about positive energy, as Permaculture designers and practitioners we are observed........ Keep designing and doing......... we have the tool kit to heal and be incredibly productive...... This film will help guide. Thank You again.
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Hi Shane, a fantastic well constructed documentary. I understand that there are other permaculture disciples out there that are worthy of recognition, but you have referenced the correct founding pioneers and ambassadors that directed the positive global movements that we see around us today. These are the people that inspired me in my dark and desperate times, they, along with mother nature gave my life a new direction, purpose, inspiration and resilience. I am now always full of hope and optimism that we can all make a difference and continue to expand and spread the knowledge that we have gained from them.
Hi Steve, very much likewise. Glad you liked it, and thanks for the thoughtful feedback.
What a motivating video Bosco. Just uplifting.. Thank you so much!
Fantastic. You are really finding a voice combining your two loves of film making and permaculture. Can't wait for the next one. I really like Andrew Millisons teaching presentation and Ben Falks implementation.
Heya Odhran, thanks a lot. Hope you're keeping well coming into your 3rd/4th summer. I'd say your place going to look amazing this year! Working on another video currently! 😅
Hi there are other people, in my opinion, very important in natural farming . Historically Rudolf Steiner with his Biodinàmics, in terms of soil Anna Maria Primavesi, Brazilian naturalized, "we are soil if we kill soil we kill us", the mother of mulch Rachel Stout, the anti pesticide woman Rachel Carson, the smart Sintropia guy Ernst Gotsch, and of course the trivial people people from Amazonas as you say at the beginning, they say all the thinks are subjects, respect them! 😊
Thanks. I'll add them. I hadn't really thought about Steiner and hadn't heard of Ana Maria Primavesi, so good to learn about her. Already had Ernst Gotsch.
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No idea how I found the word permaculture one day, around ten years ago, on the internet. Looked into it more, and thought is was a bit complicated then found Geoff Lawton's online course and did that in 2015. Still so much to learn, which is also the fun part!
I didn't realize 900 years later Geoff was still kicking around the designs :)
Ah you mean 2015… you can edit the 9 out you know.
@@louisegogel7973 Living in the future ;-)
Back to Basics is Key!
Humans have yet so very much to learn from Mother Nature! ...soo much!
In Flora AND Fauna alike!
GOD BLESS
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As I started watching this video, I am compelled to write down all the names in these lists for future reference. Sorry, but the video will have to wait.🥰 Thank you for this.
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This is such an inspiring selection of information.
Thank you for your efforts.
If only the world could see what they are overlooking driving around in their tractors.
I have done some good application of the regenerative practices on my families small cattle farm.
It works.
I am in the same region as the Originators of Permaculture, in central Victoria, Australia, in the 'Plenty'. Has not been 'Plentiful' for many decades, as it was cleared and washed fertility away. In early settlement.
We are being pushed out and damaged now by urban creep.
I am blessed to have been here to fall in love with soil, plants and Big Nature.
Another fantastic documentary Shane. Interesting and informative. Well done. 👏
Glad you enjoyed it.
Penny Livingston, Stephen Brooks have 30+ years histories of Permaculture practice and were students of the founders. I earned my PDC through them and the amazing ensemble of guest teachers they included such as David Holmgren, Morag Gamble, Rosemary Gladstar, Starhawk, Redbird and many rising stars. I am forever grateful for the Ecoversity course experience, teachers and cohort. Having practiced many principles of Permaculture throughout my life, I didn’t learn of the conceptual model & movement until 2009. Many thanks for the work you are doing to shine a light on restorative & regenerative ideas and accomplishments across the globe. 💚
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Thank you for sharing this!
You're welcome! :)
Wonderful video!! Keep up the fantastic work....You´ve named my favourite pioneers in the video and I would add Brad Lancaster, Andrew Millison, Ben Falk and Zach Weiss as representatives of the next generation of the permaculture movement.
Thanks! Will do! :)
Hey bro! Beautiful documentary, thanks for sharing and making this art piece. Another master is Ernst Gotsch, pura vida and love from Uruguay
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Good one! Added to the list.
Yes Master Ernst, founder of Syntropic Agroforestry. It complements permaculture with focus on the food forest.
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No, he’s from Switzerland, but hangs around Brazil.
@@estebancorral5151 😁🌿🪴 🌟 CH!!! 🇨🇭🇨🇭🇨🇭
all of my heroes in one video - thank you so much - this is how we do agriculture properly!!
While I only know a small handful of names off the list, what an awesome list of people to be able to draw more inspiration from!
Stefan Sobkowiak; The Permaculture Orchard, is another great one of learned information and knowledge.
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I see him in the description, but Mark Shepard is doing an insane amount of good in the realm of converting conventional farms to permaculture. Im surrounded by 1,000+ acre farmers and ranchers, and Mark's is the only viable path I've seen for them so far.
I'm a big fan as well. I've listened to the Restoration Agriculture book twice just for motivation 😅
@BoscosGarden lol I'm on my 9th or 10th listen through, but his way is closest to the way I want to do things, so I probably haven't branched out as much as you
At another ("smaller") level but inspiring: the couple from Edible Acres for their work on disseminating their knowledge?
Well done! Jeff Lawton and Bill Mollison..What a team. I have learned a hell of a lot from them.
Love this! I'd also suggest the late, great Sarah Pugh (UK), Maddy & Tim Harland (Permaculture Magazine UK), Hannah Moloney (Good life permaculture AU) and Michael Judd (US).
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great inspiration & video 👍 thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
A well thought out and enjoyabl video! Loved it!
Thanks!
RFK Jr. Was the lawyer who fought against Monsanto tyranny.
Thanks for sharing, im Happy I found this!
Lump in the throat stuff - thanks!
Yacouba Sawadogo in Burkina Faso should be added. The man who stopped the desert and built a forest...
Vijay Kumar in India - the movement that he was pivotal in making happen to inspire small scale farmers, especially women framers to use 'natural farming' in Andhra Pradesh India is quite extraordinary. Didi Pershouse, who writes the 'Wisdom Underground' on substack, has interviewed him. Didi herself is worth knowing about - she is a brilliant educator! not specifically about "permaculture" but a living earth approach to everything...
Australian, Walter Jehne for his Soil Sponge perspective - Didi has interviewed him too... he worked on the Canberra Botanic Gardens rainforest gully creation.
So glad Allan Savory is in there - his Holistic Management and decision making process is for way more than just grazing - it works for life!
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The pioneering person in Permaculture for me was SKYE (from Australia)!
Forgot Brad Lancaster in Tuscan Arizona.
Already on the list.
@@BoscosGarden great to hear!! Love his work, especially since I’m from the desert 🌵
The other man's grass is Always greener!❤
Definitely worth adding the master Ernst Gotsch and his contribution in Brazil and beyond
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Tim Miller of Milberg Farms in Kyle Texas taught me about dry land farming and organic farming techniques. My permaculture hero and mentor
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This is such a wonderfully inspiring video, thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Man thats crazy to think that permaculture probably was the original agriculture...
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What about Paul Gauchi?
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My neighbor 😊
Awesome
Beautifully inspired
Thanks!
I follow Mark of Sustainable Me, from Queensland, Australia. I love his sense of humor, too! Gotta love the Dad jokes!
Love that guy! 😁
Thank you so much for this history. I love the potential of regenerative agriculture and permit culture. It’s the answer to cleaning up pollution and having a healthy food supply and restoring the water cycle and reclaiming land lost into desertification. You should know that a growing number of scientists have lost confidence in the theory of evolution. The complexity of even the smallest cell is absolutely staggering, requiring unbelievable quantities of information. Many scientist are calling for a new theory. From my observation humans don’t do anything by random chance processes. Even per culture and regenerative agriculture mimicking nature is not random chance. Nothing productive that we do is random chance
Interesante sintesis de las mejores practicas que han generado una cultura donde permanece la vida... "Permacultura"/Afectos desde el CARIBE.
Muchas gracias mi amigo!
I would take issue with some of those who merely use the word permaculture but then sell something else. But hell, who really cares in this culture! Hahahaha!
Mollison did say anything is better than what is going on now.
There's a good bit of that alright... And many variations of what people THINK it is. Even old Bill told stories about how he got ridiculed for using a mechanical digger because "that isn't permaculture" 😂
@@BoscosGarden Since I've participated in a PDC, and then read the manual, a few chapters over and again, and then thought about all this for a decade, those who are baiting with the word permaculture and switching into something else is glaringly apparent to me. But then I get to that feeling of next to no one wants to understand, all they want is how to make money, and then I chuckle!
From what I understand, Permaculture is way of assessing and working with the land in front of you and adapting what works under the goal of less is more and to be working with nature instead of against it so that nature can actually help us all.
There don’t seem to be hard and fast rules of what to do, just broad principles to guide which have to be adapted to the situation at hand. For instance, one of the biggest principles I’ve been learning about through listening to just about everyone who speaks of Permaculture, ‘sinking’ or ‘planting’ water into the ground is extremely vital to regenerating any kind of life and having it all thrive.
There are many ways of planting water, and all of them seem to work so I feel the biggest thing for us all in the world is to applaud, support, and brainstorm from what people are doing !
@@louisegogel7973 I don't believe humans will regenerate much in the coming years. Mostly new adaptations are needed.
@@louisegogel7973 The 12 principles are important. I think the 3 ethics are even more so. Much that calls itself permaculture kind of pushes those to one side! Earth Care, People Care and Fair Share (sometimes Obtain a Yield or similar.) If someone's brand of permaculture is exploiting other people, it's not following the ethics. Same with the other two. That's Lesson One in any good PDC.
There is a name missing on the list: Ana Primavesi
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Very interesting documentary, thank you for putting it together. :) Many names in there I didn't know yet, especially from the older/first generation. I've only been in touch with the current generation like Andrew, Geoff, Elaine, etc.
Are there currently any names in the German speaking countries? I'm quite interested in doing a basics course or a PDC and I know Geoff started his new online PDC just some days ago, but I'd prefer to to it in my native language since it would be easier I think. :)
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. I can't think of any German speaking teachers myself, but they definitely are out there. I'm not sure about online courses, but maybe try a Google search for an in-person permaculture design certificate course in Germany?
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Please, The music at 2 minutes, can you tell what it is. Sorry if was already listed, i did not see .
Hans Johnson - Ashe
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@@wikipageandiihavebeen3953 You are most welcome.
great movie! #PermacultureRevolution
Julie Firth, an incredible human, wealth of knowledge & know how.
Doing amazing things in the often harsh environment of the Midwest Western Australia! - "The Drylands Permaculture Farm" & foundation Geraldton
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Someone else mentioned Starhawk but I don't see her on your list. She collaborates with Charles Williams on many of her workshops. They are in California. Also Pandora Thomas who I met through Starhawk. The often do Eco-activist trainings at OUR Ecovillage on Vancouver Island, BC, Canada. Another permie couple in BC is Ann and Gord Baird. Never met them but I've followed them for years on FB.
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Wes Jackson of the land institute in Kansas USA try to design perennial grain ecosystems
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Which grains did he used?
Ditto Art Ludwig with his Create an Oasis with Graywater and Brad Lancaster with his curb cuts and working with the city of Tucson to improve his own neighborhood as well.
I can see my own progress by the people whose books I've read over the last 50 years. My adventure started with The Last Whole Earth Catalog in the 1970s. If I only had the energy of that young teenager now! There is still so much I have yet to accomplish! Then again the women in my famuly live long lives...!
Nice video thanks :)
I think that any story like this should also include any small mention of the forced changes in farming and land use during colonialism and early industrialization, and especially the agressive pushing of chemicals during the "Green revolution," and the further development of globalized industrial trash ""food"" systems, without being a handwringing gloomy chronicle of destruction but to provide a very necessary backdrop.. You only say "societies shifted"(!) - this could be kind of like whitewashing history or even akin to apologism if you are speaking about so many places in the world. There are still tribal people living in the Amazon forest...
Someone mentioned this below, and its not a small problem- that there are hoards of eco-charlatans selling "courses" and whatever "services" under this banner.. There are many great teachers and practitioners mentioned in this video, but "Permaculture" is like a brand with its own pantheon of careerist celebrity-gurus acting like they invented or solely discovered traditional indigenous techniques... Any knowlege that needs to be shared and spread should be done freely... anyone can learn and implement without paying for a pdc... (I wondered btw whats your source that Robert Harts methods were taken from a Mollison pdc? I never heard that)... really sometimes I prefer using terms like "agroforestry" etc to avoid pointing people in any direction of the traps and schemes... and all the type of videos youtube recommends me of wealthy suburbanites installing little raingardens in thier posh yards as if that will offset thier vast overconsumption...
Just ranting a little.. )) Part of ""permaculture"" must entail actively going against commercialism and greenwashing etc... Just my thoughts.. Thanks for reading, have a good day )
Heya, thanks for the feedback. Yeah, there's a lot there to fit into 20 minutes, and I'd just rather keep it positive/productive rather than being, as you said, a "gloomy chronicle of destruction." One thing I dislike about most permaculture documentaries is the 1st quarter of if sending me on the doom trip, telling me stuff everyone already knows. They nearly always start the same way. Why else would I be watching it like?? 🤔
The clip of Robert Hart was from Bill Mollison's Global Gardener series. He says in it that Robert was one of his former students. I wouldn't give all the credit to Bill, of course. I hope it didn't come off that way. Robert was a deeply fascinating and well-read character. Way ahead of his time.
Lastly, I don't like seeing permaculture as being affiliated with any political stance. Personally, I welcome the capitalists with open arms. At least they get things done! 🤣 I think Holmgren said in one of his interviews, something like; no matter what 2 people's politics might be, at least they can agree that planting trees is a good idea. So, rather than arguing or judging, let's do that. I think that's a beautiful sentiment.
@@BoscosGarden Thanks, its a bunch to think about for me today )
Yes I agree, not to suggest you begin with obligatory climate-apocalyse montage hahah..
But its misleading to suggest that traditional ecological sewardship of land was forgotten as you said in some societal shifts.. these practices and the relationships to land that made them possibe were very actively and purposely destroyed by imperialists, in the Americas, Africa, Asia...
And I dont think most people are so informed about the neocolonial so-called 'Green Revolution', myself included, as I try to research this period in India...
Im not espousing any politics except an anti-politics; politics is all just theatre or a 'dirty game' as they say, and policy is mostly all decided in back rooms by industrialists and bureacrats. I hope most people can also agree that is is true ;)
Difficult to welcome with open arms "green" capitalists in the same way as it would be to welcome maoists etc.. Isnt permaculture about "peoplecare" and all that stuff? Great to plant trees, but also to care about people, share resources and food, cooperate, spread access..
I wont go off more on how Mollison is touted as this sort of "white savior" daddy figure haha.. But I question these things for permaculture, its relation to decolonization, wonder if even I should avoid the label altogether, and Im taking the time to write this with the hopes that it could possibly encourage some more thought and dialogue on such issues..
@@pristinerecords You're never going to understand reality by filling your mind with leftist junk media. Your thinking is full of the rubbish terms that only deluded leftists use: "neo-colonial", all politics is just decided by industrialists, decrying white savior (which is low-key racist), "overconsumption" (there's no such thing), etc.
@@BoscosGardenI will agree that keeping it positive has a powerful impact. What we focus on is what we power up…
Erik Ohlsen of Sebastopol, CA.
Willow Crossing Farm in Vermont
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Prime evil forest🤟🏻
Great band. Their early stuff is the best 😆
Patrick Whitefield
Thank fuck Jeff stepped up!! I dils me lid Jeff!
And the ancient indigenous people aroundwhat is now Mexico City who created floati ggardens and terra preta.
Perrine and Charles Hervé-Gruyer in France (Normandy)
A great youtuber is "Parkrose Permaculture"
I guess the history of permaculture - without the actual name- would be incomplete without the German Moritz Schreber and his "Schrebergarten" or "Kleingärten", itself going back to the old rural tradition of "Bauerngarten" (kitchen gardens). And these were a traditional female practise of garanteeing food security , including regional seed production.
Would like to decentralise our view . Aren't there any Black permaculturalists? Agroforests were a basic of the fight for resistance in the Caribean, and a Brasilian tradition. Aren't there any Africans practising pc or having practised historically a resembling way of agroforesting?
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Master Herbalist, anyone who created Ayahuasca is definitely a master herbalist
😂 No doubt.
While you are at it here, where is the video and list of indigenous ancient food growing without chemical means?!😮
There is the minor problem of there being a lack of historical records...
Whats concerning to me is the lack of people of color on the cover photo.
There are 2 Indians and a Japanese man.. Do you mean someone from Africa? There is one (through naturalisation), except his ancestors were European. I couldn't think of/ haven't been exposed to any stand-out figures except Ron Finley, who is an American in LA. Would you like to suggest somebody?
I believe there are people in the inner cities who are helping make food with the street gangs… one I believe calls it Gangsta Gardening and is turning the lives of gang members around into very positive places.
@@louisegogel7973 Hi Louise. That's the man I mentioned; Ron Finley.
I think a follow-up on Permaculture practices in Urban Ag properties and programs would be super cool. Check out the US-UAIP grant recipients. Also note that ethnic or racial diversity, BIPOC, isn’t always reflected in physical appearance.
Yes no green people or purple
Crossing western wheat grass with wheat
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Being a Vegun or vegetarian doesn't help the destructed world. We need to pay more attention to how our food is grown and traded. Dirty your hands, and get friendly with the nature.
This video would be far more appealing and effective with out the added dramatic exposition at the begining..
Please do not play music trough the narrating. It is impossible to follow the narrating. Or offer an option without music. Lots of people struggle with this but it isa matter of accesibility to many with hearing problems, autism, adhd and energy/focus matters.
I have to agree the music is too loud and distracting for me too.
The opening was complete rubbish. Go and try to live out bush for a year. Then you’ll see that our ancestors survived… that’s what they did. Just like now, just like always and every culture. Humans took what they needed to survive. It’s only now that we can see that living a more nomadic lifestyle is better for the planet than the Industrial Revolution. But it doesn’t mean than our 5 x great grandparents were mystical nature spirits who divinely nurtured the earth. They did what they needed to survive with the tools and knowledge that they had. And that’s all.
If you go out bush and try to live that way, you’ll come to this realisation too.
It's purely speculation based on recent findings of ancient sites and the notion that the Amazon's human population was quite likely closer to 1 million people, rather than in the tens of thousands as previously thought; before imported diseases like smallpox were introduced in the 15th century. It took over 400 years for Europeans to begin exploring the jungle, after which time, as I presume you can imagine, it would have swallowed up much evidence of a civilization mostly built with timber. Only now can we begin to find some of these sites with technology like lidar, but unfortunately, only after deforestation as far as I'm aware.
To say that people merely survived, I think, is an injustice and also just as speculative... As a civilization, we have barely just come out of the dark ages and have next to no information about the ancient world. When looking at the astounding stone structures left behind all around the planet, it is hard to say that the people who built them were struggling to survive. They no doubt had a lot of free time!
I'm currently living in the wet tropics of Asia, so I have a good idea of how harsh the natural world is in this climate. And listening to someone like Paul Rosolie about his adventures in the rainforest, I'm well aware of the struggles with diseases, insects, etc. It is a living, moving, biting, remorseless hell to the uninitiated. But to a civilization that is at least 11,000 years old, who know every plant, their synergistic combinations, the trackings of every animal, the constellations in the clear night sky... I think it is far more likely that these people were very well adapted and comfortable in their surroundings and probably had far more free time than people do today.
Industrial civilization is just a hair-thin sliver of time in comparison to the history of civilization, the development of agriculture, settlements, cities... and the history of all civilization in turn is a tiny tiny piece of time within the vastness of human existence. As BG^ rightly points out everything about prehistory is speculative.. But do you really think human beings would continue for so long wandering the earth and avoiding permanent settlements, entrenched hierarchies and forms of slavery because they were merely "surviving" and hadnt considered such things?
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A great teacher, unfortunately not as well known outside Tamil Nadu and Tamil communities, important to tell everyone about him and his legacy...
i think i just discovered the foundational characters to the practices im so passionate about 💚 master cho & knf is another pioneer for me 🪱🧡 also ruth stout
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