Film Theory: Is This the NEXT Backrooms? (The Oldest View)

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  • @FintanFire
    @FintanFire Před 5 měsíci +6763

    Finding out the mall being a real thing was the most unreal thing ever.

  • @Jonathan_Collins
    @Jonathan_Collins Před 5 měsíci +8212

    Gotta admit, seeing Kane Pixels explore the genre that he’s made so popular, it is so rad, and so cool.

  • @hudsondraulans212
    @hudsondraulans212 Před 5 měsíci +544

    I didn't get goosebumps until you said the entire mall is CGI... that is so incredibly impressive.

    • @justaemptymall
      @justaemptymall Před 3 měsíci +2

      Why would you think it's real?

    • @guitarenthusiast22
      @guitarenthusiast22 Před 3 měsíci +23

      Thats exactly what i was thinking. I kept wondering how kane could've gotten access to/built such an incredible set. I guess CGI makes more sense, but that's just wildly cool to me

    • @Jasondurgen
      @Jasondurgen Před 3 měsíci +34

      @@justaemptymallbecause abandoned malls exist and are trespassed daily?

    • @odinpaxton2408
      @odinpaxton2408 Před 2 měsíci +20

      Honestly the most immersive CGI environment I've experienced its beautiful. His camera movements/ audio FX make it seem way more realistic too, like someone's actually filming it and walking around talking with us.

    • @Heretic_for_life_931
      @Heretic_for_life_931 Před 2 měsíci +4

      In an interview he said it himself that some shots are from the mall before it was demolished

  • @InverseMoon
    @InverseMoon Před 5 měsíci +924

    I think it's important to note that while Wyatt was studying Botany, he mentions that he actually switched over to studying Business, which could be significant in explaining why the Rolling Giant targeted Wyatt. For instance, since Wyatt changed his major from Botany to Business, he made himself part of the world--the business word-- that would play a role in the desertion and destruction of the mall; Wyatt's fate may be a direct consequence of straying from studying Botany and switching interests to Business.

  • @AidenThePony
    @AidenThePony Před 5 měsíci +8008

    I wonder if the closet that MatPat sometimes records videos in is somehow connected to The Backrooms?

  • @shawnheatherly
    @shawnheatherly Před 5 měsíci +2563

    It's insane that Kane Pixels' version of a break is to just make another impressive series.

    • @Jen-hen
      @Jen-hen Před 5 měsíci +6

      im smarter than matpat my theories are better

    • @KnowledgeSphere-je9ee
      @KnowledgeSphere-je9ee Před 5 měsíci

      m@tpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

    • @KnowledgeSphere-je9ee
      @KnowledgeSphere-je9ee Před 5 měsíci

      m@tpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

    • @SphereKnowledge
      @SphereKnowledge Před 5 měsíci +1

      matpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

    • @SphereKnowledge
      @SphereKnowledge Před 5 měsíci +1

      matpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

  • @tommywang948
    @tommywang948 Před 5 měsíci +836

    The scariest part of the giant is that it constantly feed you false information about itself so that it can create a false sense of security. It then breaks this sense of security violently, creating even more dread than it normally would. For example, it convinced our dude that it won't move at first, but then it did. Then, it convinced him it won't move on sight, then it did again. Then, it convinced him that there's no way it can go up an escalator, which it did yet again. At last, it convinced him that he's dealing with some kind of statues on wheels, but then it reveals that it can literally come off its base. Truly terrifying.

    • @littleredruri
      @littleredruri Před 4 měsíci +23

      When did it come off its base?

    • @tommywang948
      @tommywang948 Před 4 měsíci +91

      @@littleredruri When the beam collapsed, as our guy is falling, you can actually see that only the base was still there, and the statue itself is missing

    • @littleredruri
      @littleredruri Před 4 měsíci +10

      @@tommywang948 I couldn't see it 🤷‍♀️

    • @PouTheBean
      @PouTheBean Před 3 měsíci +36

      @@littleredruriLook at the middle left. There is something with red flags, which if you noticed was on the back of the giant. So the giant either fell off its stand and we just can’t see it with the angle, or it can GET OFF its stand which is more terrifying

    • @killianversoza7101
      @killianversoza7101 Před 3 měsíci +9

      The giant had already outsmarted your outsmarting

  • @jacoboniaplay
    @jacoboniaplay Před 4 měsíci +267

    So the mall is buried at the base of a tree. It's a grave. Wow. Cemeteries are places of great sadness, but they're also places where you honor the dead. Gives me chills. Hold on to what you can, but you have to let go of what you can't in a way that honors its memory.

  • @zeroxlulu
    @zeroxlulu Před 5 měsíci +2381

    It's honestly pretty crazy that my childhood mall is now apart of this big 'analog horror lore'. Glad I decided to document the mall 6 years ago on my channel before it was demolished, It really was a strange feeling walking through Valley View pretty much all to myself, very eerie yet nostalgic, I remember the day vividly.

    • @jonmayer
      @jonmayer Před 5 měsíci +64

      I wish I could find some footage of the malls I used to go to. Most exist in some capacity still, but look nothing like they used to.

    • @angelcake.s
      @angelcake.s Před 5 měsíci +38

      i literally used to play at the mcdonald’s by the mall as a kid this is REALLY trippy 😭

    • @Gunshin01
      @Gunshin01 Před 5 měsíci +30

      Yeah. Before he called out what mall it was I was sitting here like, wow that looks familiar. Like really familiar.

    • @kdandsheela
      @kdandsheela Před 5 měsíci +9

      it's possible that some of your footage was used as a reference for this work!

    • @zeroxlulu
      @zeroxlulu Před 5 měsíci +10

      @@angelcake.s The really cool one that had a happy meal shaped play area before they went and remodeled it into looking like any old McDonald's? Lol

  • @AJGundam
    @AJGundam Před 5 měsíci +2769

    What I love about The Oldest View is that this mall has been demolished and exists no where but in Kanes renders.
    In a Wendigoon video, he says a friend got him all the blueprints for it so this man literally REBUILT the mall in a digital space.

    • @mixedbagmixesmusic1967
      @mixedbagmixesmusic1967 Před 5 měsíci +40

      Yeah, the Livestream!

    • @Jen-hen
      @Jen-hen Před 5 měsíci +8

      matpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

    • @sethescope
      @sethescope Před 5 měsíci +193

      ​@@Jen-henman, someday people will come up with creative things to spam but apparently it is not this day.

    • @hmmmmymmmme2572
      @hmmmmymmmme2572 Před 5 měsíci +22

      Iceberg boy

    • @bskinner22rianna
      @bskinner22rianna Před 5 měsíci +28

      The fact that MatPat doesn't reference the livestream where Kane stated he had the blueprints and recreated the mall bugs feels ick

  • @silveramaryllis
    @silveramaryllis Před 5 měsíci +211

    Wow, I was surprised to see my comment at 7:13.
    I just wanted to say that since leaving that comment, I have been increasingly invested in this series and watch any video I'm recommended that has anything to do with it. It's so weird to say that a story being told with horror themes has become a comfort series to me but it has. I don't have crystal clear memories of what stores my grandmother and I went to as I mostly visited this mall under the age of 10, but I do remember how much joy going shopping with her gave me. I spent some of the best days of my life there. I am grateful for Kane and his friend who helped him create the mall by hand.
    I have some of my own theories on the giant, I do not think that being was out to harm Wyatt at all. In my opinion, it seemed to be trying to herd Wyatt towards the emergency exit. In the part where Wyatt comes out of the back halls and starts running through the overgrown mall, you can even see a very brief and blurred glimpse at silhouettes of some other puppets blocking off another wing of the mall so Wyatt has to go up the escalators. There's also what sounds like funeral music playing during this part, as if Wyatt's time was up. And if your deduction that the document numbers relate directly to the dates, Julian's lifetime was the number for an escape. Any time he showed up, it was in a place where Wyatt wandered off from the AMC elevator access or in a place that forced Wyatt to move in the direction towards the exit. As the mall got worse, the giant got more aggressive about pushing Wyatt out. I do have questions as to why the giant is also "dead" in the ending scene. Perhaps with Wyatt dying, no one would ever view the giant again. So every memory of him is now dead.
    I do truly hope Kane revisits this series in the future so we get more hints as to the story hidden here. I hope he's so proud of this work.

    • @UUug-qb1lg
      @UUug-qb1lg Před 5 měsíci +1

      🤓

    • @Judge_0f_Everything
      @Judge_0f_Everything Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@UUug-qb1lg🤓

    • @a1daid67
      @a1daid67 Před 4 měsíci +15

      ​@@UUug-qb1lg why do you not like sharing stories

    • @Frabbly
      @Frabbly Před 4 měsíci +10

      This is an essay that is actually worth reading. Good job. Thank you for the info and telling your perspective on the topic.

    • @JamesThePokemonHunter
      @JamesThePokemonHunter Před 4 měsíci +1

      This was extremely interesting, thanks for sharing!

  • @Mr_Inspiration
    @Mr_Inspiration Před 4 měsíci +89

    Speaking of impermanence. I think we can all agree that, with Matthew soon retiring, this analogy horror's true story & purpose hits more at home than it did before.

  • @lukestarkiller1470
    @lukestarkiller1470 Před 5 měsíci +2812

    I seriously could’t tell if the place was actually real or not until all the trees appeared everywhere. It looks so unbelievable real. First he mastered the old camcorder look in the backrooms and now he’s mastered the modern phone camera look. This kid is ridiculously talented, I’m glad he’s getting his movie career started this early on, he’s going to be very successful no matter what he decides to do with his life

  • @TheKinginRed
    @TheKinginRed Před 5 měsíci +1834

    Id just like to point out that Wyatt actually escaped twice, but decided to go a third time and gets trapped, this man had 3 separate chances to leave the spooky hole alone and he couldn't.

    • @slippyfruit8538
      @slippyfruit8538 Před 5 měsíci +157

      I mean, he is canonically fight club red pilled sigma male

    • @DeletedTroll
      @DeletedTroll Před 5 měsíci +274

      Considering the theme of nostalgia, that's quite accurate. It's a good, bad and dangerous emotion that many get too attached to and refuse to move on, depending on your situation and what you're nostalgic about. But it's less about being attached to the thing that causes nostalgia, and more about being attached to the feeling itself.

    • @Imbettadenu
      @Imbettadenu Před 5 měsíci +109

      To be fair the first two times he didn’t encounter the statue at all
      But he still definitely should’ve left the first time

    • @xdgaming70
      @xdgaming70 Před 4 měsíci +45

      Curiosity killed the cat

    • @almessasorrow4950
      @almessasorrow4950 Před 4 měsíci +29

      ​@@xdgaming70satisfaction brought it back

  • @MrFallout984
    @MrFallout984 Před 5 měsíci +37

    14:54 AYO ITS ME LETS GOOOO

  • @youngfortnitegangbanger
    @youngfortnitegangbanger Před 3 měsíci +30

    16:05 foreshadowing for his own retirement is crazy

  • @KHike08
    @KHike08 Před 5 měsíci +922

    I’m from Dallas, and I have to say- the way Kane depicted the Valley View Mall is *perfect*. I literally felt like I was there

    • @adomination1128
      @adomination1128 Před 5 měsíci +62

      it was painstakingly and perfectly recreated digitally using the actual blueprints of the valley view center and old photos of the interior and rendered in a render farm. its absolutely insane what this guy can do.

    • @randomgerman657
      @randomgerman657 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Same

    • @Jen-hen
      @Jen-hen Před 5 měsíci

      im smarter than matpat my theories are better

    • @KnowledgeSphere-je9ee
      @KnowledgeSphere-je9ee Před 5 měsíci

      m@tpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

    • @KnowledgeSphere-je9ee
      @KnowledgeSphere-je9ee Před 5 měsíci

      m@tpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

  • @nicheofnight
    @nicheofnight Před 5 měsíci +1466

    I think one element that really lends credence to the idea of "accepting the impermanence" as a central theme for the oldest view is the fact that Wyatt is allowed to enter and then leave the mall once before it traps him inside. It's like whatever power created it allows visitors to enter once and experience something lost to us, but if they try to keep coming back, it will devour them. It works as a good metaphor for people being stuck in the past and in the way things were, and the consequences of being like them.

    • @juliannegee5114
      @juliannegee5114 Před 5 měsíci +28

      Love these thoughts ✨

    • @shrekslongloststepfather2823
      @shrekslongloststepfather2823 Před 5 měsíci +18

      Although it is hard to sometimes accept it

    • @disrespecc9678
      @disrespecc9678 Před 4 měsíci +10

      oh gee, someone found the subtext

    • @dan7564
      @dan7564 Před 4 měsíci +16

      I assumed it was because the Giant hadn't found him the first two times. As soon as he crosses path with the giant, the mall phases out or in, the lights come on and the exist switches out with a collapsed one. We know the giant can do this not only because of the grown trees but as he goes up the escalators all the trees disappear and it's the usual mall.

  • @thenewsl678
    @thenewsl678 Před 4 měsíci +19

    I could totally envision these analog horror series being used to teach the future generations "Old Content" similar to the way we study "old literature" and Matpat's videos being used as we use the guide books and breakdowns of various famous historical pieces lol

  • @SuperLeDuper
    @SuperLeDuper Před 5 měsíci +31

    Another interesting detail is that Wyatt *used* to be a botany major, but changed his major to business, adding to the idea that the botanist is a part of the past, but it still informs the present and has a lingering effect

  • @HeisenbergFam
    @HeisenbergFam Před 5 měsíci +786

    If Matt fell into Backrooms, he would peacefully try to ask entities about the _LORE_

  • @Matrix-hb5fr
    @Matrix-hb5fr Před 5 měsíci +1010

    Honestly this series is amazing it’s impressive how Kane found so many photos of the rolling giant despite how poorly documented it was

    • @Jen-hen
      @Jen-hen Před 5 měsíci +3

      im smarter than matpat my theories are better

    • @Janeworx
      @Janeworx Před 5 měsíci +49

      darn bots are ruining youtube

    • @KnowledgeSphere-je9ee
      @KnowledgeSphere-je9ee Před 5 měsíci

      m@tpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

    • @KnowledgeSphere-je9ee
      @KnowledgeSphere-je9ee Před 5 měsíci

      m@tpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

    • @SphereKnowledge
      @SphereKnowledge Před 5 měsíci +1

      matpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

  • @marycahoon6325
    @marycahoon6325 Před 5 měsíci +40

    No way!! I recognized right away that this was filmed at a mall in my home town! I did a film camp there a month or so before it shut down, and it was so surreal seeing it again all decrepit like that. The movie theater stayed open longer than the mall itself, so you could come in and look out onto the abandoned food court, which gave such a strange feeling since I had eaten lunch there every day for two weeks. So cool that it's being memorialized in a big series like this! RIP Valley View, sorry you could never compete with the Galleria.

  • @Omar-cw5gg
    @Omar-cw5gg Před 5 měsíci +26

    I was lucky to be inside Valley View Center a few years ago. Everything was abandoned while the AMC remained open for a while. The atmosphere stood out a lot to me so I immediately recognized it in the Oldest View. I’m sad to hear it got taken down

  • @myeyesdontbreathe3555
    @myeyesdontbreathe3555 Před 5 měsíci +730

    As a games designer, getting a theory on one of my projects is a massive thing on my bucket list. It really is a coveted honour to get a theory created about your work.

    • @ToastBadoinks
      @ToastBadoinks Před 5 měsíci +72

      good luck getting matpats attetion :) (thats not me being rude, i actually wish you good luck. just wanted to clarify)

    • @BonjeSponge_
      @BonjeSponge_ Před 5 měsíci +14

      Yooo wait me too, been working on games my whole life! Like no joke it is so difficult to find other devs

    • @normalchannel2185
      @normalchannel2185 Před 5 měsíci +27

      Good for you, just dont go the hello neighbour route

    • @Chronicler9
      @Chronicler9 Před 5 měsíci +11

      @@normalchannel2185 *shudder - the game that should not be named...

    • @atomichamster2709
      @atomichamster2709 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Good luck to you man! Can’t wait to hopefully see you on here! Much love♥️

  • @archergal
    @archergal Před 5 měsíci +818

    Hard to believe Kane Pixels went all the way from making 3d aot animations to being so big of a channel

    • @ThermiteKitty
      @ThermiteKitty Před 5 měsíci +35

      Saw the one of the rally ages ago and didn't know it was the same guy for ages. At a time where fans were desensitized to the horror of AoT, he was able to portray how scary and off-putting Eren's grim reminder would have realistically been, and that eye towards the emotion and strangeness of situations rather than getting irony-poisoned and self-referential is definitely what makes his work feel so distinct.

    • @KnowledgeSphere-je9ee
      @KnowledgeSphere-je9ee Před 5 měsíci

      m@tpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

    • @KnowledgeSphere-je9ee
      @KnowledgeSphere-je9ee Před 5 měsíci

      m@tpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

    • @SphereKnowledge
      @SphereKnowledge Před 5 měsíci +1

      matpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

    • @SphereKnowledge
      @SphereKnowledge Před 5 měsíci +1

      matpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

  • @mastawaluigi
    @mastawaluigi Před 5 měsíci +9

    Truly appreciate you making these videos. Everything I watch a creepy pasta video I'm like "can't wait for matpat to make this make sense" lol

  • @samdal420
    @samdal420 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Imagine dying and becoming a giant art project monster in an arg, honesty if that's not my legacy then I don't want one 😤🔥💯

  • @Rembreiker_lychec9257
    @Rembreiker_lychec9257 Před 5 měsíci +363

    I've been to this mall before it was torn down! It was so surreal watching The Oldest View and seeing Kane perfectly recreate the broken down AMC that I used to explore.

    • @athentdm5333
      @athentdm5333 Před 5 měsíci +8

      See the giant?

    • @witneythompson2516
      @witneythompson2516 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Your pulling our 🦵

    • @Jen-hen
      @Jen-hen Před 5 měsíci +1

      im smarter than matpat my theories are better

    • @Janeworx
      @Janeworx Před 5 měsíci +1

      darn bots are ruining youtube

    • @Stealthhawk21
      @Stealthhawk21 Před 5 měsíci +8

      I've definitely been to that mall too before it was torn down. It was always surreal going to the AMC and seeing everything else shut down. I think the last time I went was to see Once Upon A Time in Hollywood.

  • @divine-s
    @divine-s Před 5 měsíci +736

    I’m super impressed with Kane Pixels. Each series he makes he’s never disappointed. His editing, voice acting, suspension, emotion, he all somehow perfects in. Massive respect for him.

    • @Awogletfan5513
      @Awogletfan5513 Před 5 měsíci +8

      @OFFICERJIMMYUTTPwomp womp womp woooomp

    • @romanbundy921
      @romanbundy921 Před 5 měsíci +2

      I really like Kane Pixels, too. His content is really interesting, and I love it!

    • @YourGamingFix-xh8bx
      @YourGamingFix-xh8bx Před 5 měsíci +1

      Any gaijin goomba fans here?

    • @danoklex8646
      @danoklex8646 Před 5 měsíci

      The glazing is insane

  • @shyceWIKI
    @shyceWIKI Před 5 měsíci +8

    Kane is a crazy good storyteller, this stuff is so interesting.

  • @Oujibug
    @Oujibug Před 5 měsíci +2

    I used to live in an apartment complex a five minutes walk from valley view! I would go there often, and by the time I reached high school, it was depressingly empty, with only a few small shops left open. The galleria had opened up just a few blocks away. I even spent my fifteenth birthday there, wandering the all too quiet place with a school friend. It’s so surreal to see it again

  • @silencearts33
    @silencearts33 Před 5 měsíci +455

    I have legitimately had dreams about concrete staircases descending underneath trees, as well as a nightmare about being chased by a witch through the aisles of am underground mall, when I was younger. The oldest view touched a fear buried way too deep in my subconscious.

    • @starbeam7679
      @starbeam7679 Před 5 měsíci +45

      That is... a really odd coincidence

    • @Jen-hen
      @Jen-hen Před 5 měsíci +2

      im smarter than matpat my theories are better

    • @SphereKnowledge
      @SphereKnowledge Před 5 měsíci +1

      matpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

    • @SphereKnowledge
      @SphereKnowledge Před 5 měsíci +1

      matpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

    • @SphereKnowledge
      @SphereKnowledge Před 5 měsíci +1

      matpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

  • @archer9356
    @archer9356 Před 5 měsíci +567

    To anyone interested in this series and the backstory behind it. Wendigoon recently reacted to this series with Kane Pixel and Alex Kister, the creator of Mandela Catalogue, being in a discord call. When they weren't tormenting Wendigoon, Kane would talk about the behind the scenes and making of the video while giving lore about the giant statue itself. Also apparently people on tiktok saw the second video and thought this was real child trafficking hidden mall underground.

    • @littlemisspicc4601
      @littlemisspicc4601 Před 5 měsíci +77

      That entire stream lives rent free in my head.
      I loved the part when Mr. The Oldest View showed off his very kind eyes.

    • @gregoryvn3
      @gregoryvn3 Před 5 měsíci

      TikTok is the latest home of the dumbest people on the internet.

    • @eldiandevil
      @eldiandevil Před 5 měsíci +24

      Good ol’ Iceberg Boy

    • @ALV5252
      @ALV5252 Před 5 měsíci +19

      poor Iceberg Boy

    • @ALV5252
      @ALV5252 Před 5 měsíci +9

      @@OFFICERJIMMYUTTP oooookaaaayyyy

  • @shinygems739
    @shinygems739 Před 5 měsíci +2

    This was a mall I went to all through high school. It was so surreal and kind of exciting to see it like this.

  • @synnduncan3711
    @synnduncan3711 Před 5 měsíci

    Your so on point,I saw a clip of this series a few weeks back with no context, also not hearing about the connection to Dallas. My first thought was valley view mall and the art district. And it made me sad and Nostalgic, they use to have a lovely mural on the side of fowleys

  • @420KingGeo
    @420KingGeo Před 5 měsíci +1320

    I'm honestly hoping that, at some point, that Kane will give us the same type of series but with a protagonist who's competent, aggressive, and unafraid. Someone who wouldn't run scared and disoriented and would instead ball up and come out swinging.

    • @sekira4516
      @sekira4516 Před 5 měsíci +170

      that aint a horror movie, that's an action flick.

    • @MrMrprofessor12345
      @MrMrprofessor12345 Před 5 měsíci +238

      @@sekira4516 You could definitely make that a horror, depending on how you either broke the character, or showed how meaningless their struggles are. Not in even the malicious sense. Just the pure apathy of the environment, the utter lack of anything to care about whether you resist "it".

    • @420KingGeo
      @420KingGeo Před 5 měsíci +135

      @MrMrprofessor12345 Exactly. I'm not saying we get some Doom commando in to beat up monsters for 20 minutes, I'm saying let's have the protagonist at least ATTEMPT the other approach. To be honest, I like the idea of a big guy getting stuck in one of these worlds with an entity and, instead of running, actually tries to fight it off, maybe even managing to briefly topple it. But once the realization sets it that it's not dying and it won't stay down, the real fight or flight panic starts popping off.

    • @Wandasolosurfavs
      @Wandasolosurfavs Před 5 měsíci +11

      ​​@@420KingGeoso you want the protagonist to die faster?

    • @420KingGeo
      @420KingGeo Před 5 měsíci +52

      @Wandasolosurfavs Most strong people are, by nature, durable. It wouldn't be quick, especially if the guy knows anything about fighting. Even if it was a small, scrappy guy, never underestimate a cornered beast.

  • @carolinewilliams4961
    @carolinewilliams4961 Před 5 měsíci +217

    For anyone else who was wandering what the twig was at 10:28. It’s called Yellow Pimpernel. A pollinator in the Parsley family. And it’s native to Texas.

    • @IndeFaux
      @IndeFaux Před 5 měsíci +18

      I don’t know why any would be curious at first but its interesting now that I know

  • @Alex-vg9ix
    @Alex-vg9ix Před 5 měsíci +2

    That transition to the film theory logo was so good

  • @goatmanwoman8641
    @goatmanwoman8641 Před 4 měsíci +3

    You know this message is really good to keep in mind especially with Matt stepping down from the channels I don’t know if you did it on purpose Matt but I applaud you nonetheless. Thank you.

  • @jamyangpelsang3099
    @jamyangpelsang3099 Před 5 měsíci +114

    The first couple parts of the Oldest View actually reminded me of “The Cave”, what is considered by many as possibly the first creepypasta. Mostly because all the scares come much later in the story and the segment building up to it is a very slow and sometimes tedious but realistically long and detailed documentation of an everyday person exploring a completely unknown subterranean area.

    • @Jen-hen
      @Jen-hen Před 5 měsíci +1

      matpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

    • @baydiac
      @baydiac Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@Jen-henConsidering your youtube account is two weeks old, we doubt it. Begone, bot.

    • @bfiguess
      @bfiguess Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@Jen-henSureeeeeee

  • @captainrandom_pc
    @captainrandom_pc Před 5 měsíci +78

    Wyatt was studying botany, but he ultimately changed to business. I'm not sure if that went unnoticed or it was irrelevant. Either way I wanted to put it out there for other people theorizing.

  • @flammablebook0737
    @flammablebook0737 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Absolutely wild to learn about the fact that the Valley View Mall I've been to before and watched slowly die has become an internet horror location!

  • @not_logan
    @not_logan Před 2 měsíci +1

    I actually love the fact of how the oldest view is leaned toward nostalgia whilst the name "the oldest view" could be like a saying of nostalgia because like its old and alot of old things that some don't remember its nostalgic and it just makes you feel warm and cozy from viewing it. cause thats what nostalgia is about.

  • @massivepotatoe1751
    @massivepotatoe1751 Před 5 měsíci +300

    If anyone wants to hear what Kane has to say about the oldest view, he watched the oldest view together with Wendigoon, while also explaining how he did things and how he got inspired.
    I believe Wendigoon posted a video on his second channel.

    • @Thebatcavepetfriendlybakery
      @Thebatcavepetfriendlybakery Před 3 měsíci +4

      The video is on wendigang, his second channel. The full reaction and call with kane as he watches, kane and chat bullying wendi as he cries at the statue on screen 😂

    • @Bloodstar582
      @Bloodstar582 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@Thebatcavepetfriendlybakeryiceberg boy😂

  • @Aashka_The_Mystic
    @Aashka_The_Mystic Před 5 měsíci +130

    I hate found footage movies, but I love Kane Pixel's work! He really knows how to do horror properly in this style. I can't wait to see the movie he's working on and what else he has in store for the future. Maybe a part 2 for this one? That would be awesome.

    • @micahslash
      @micahslash Před 5 měsíci

      You don't like Blair Witch?

    • @Jen-hen
      @Jen-hen Před 5 měsíci

      im smarter than matpat my theories are better

    • @KnowledgeSphere-je9ee
      @KnowledgeSphere-je9ee Před 5 měsíci

      m@tpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

    • @KnowledgeSphere-je9ee
      @KnowledgeSphere-je9ee Před 5 měsíci

      m@tpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

    • @mattstudios740
      @mattstudios740 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@Dougloideyou make meme content, not theories.

  • @Sub-Zero-0001
    @Sub-Zero-0001 Před 9 dny +1

    I really like the backrooms, But “the oldest view” is honestly amazing and I love it.

  • @bosco1887
    @bosco1887 Před 5 měsíci +13

    I think heard someone say the giant model actually gave Kane night terrors which just goes to how good he is

    • @Thebatcavepetfriendlybakery
      @Thebatcavepetfriendlybakery Před 3 měsíci +1

      Im pretty sure Kane said it himself when on a call with Wendigoon on his second channel, Wendigang, as he livestreamed his reaction to the Oldest View for you or anyone else interested 😃

  • @anthonysaylor8120
    @anthonysaylor8120 Před 5 měsíci +96

    When Wendigoon was made aware that the mall AND the Giant were real, god that was comedy gold. I'm glad that this is getting even more attention, it really is Kane's best work so far.
    I wonder if there's a GTLive reaction on the series...

    • @Camo1177
      @Camo1177 Před 5 měsíci +12

      It makes me sad that Matt missed the most important bits of lore; Wyatt is a business major, and like all business majors, his weak point is the knees

    • @dafirelive
      @dafirelive Před 5 měsíci +4

      And Kane already confirmed most of this stuff in the wendigoon reaction.

    • @rosesongoku6980
      @rosesongoku6980 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Wendigoon: (super high pitched) NUUUU!…… NUUUUUUUUUU!……. It's REEEEEEAAAAAALLLL?!

    • @littlemisspicc4601
      @littlemisspicc4601 Před 5 měsíci +2

      THANK YOU!! I was so hoping someone would bring him up here. I was watching that stream live but I absolutely loved Kane's involvement with the stream. I was also so impressed with Mat and the Filmtheory team for putting together the pieces of the story Kane put so much work into.
      But hey, look at the giant. He has such kind eyes.

    • @totallynotclickbait6114
      @totallynotclickbait6114 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Mr the oldest view 😓

  • @Starlight_Crafter
    @Starlight_Crafter Před 5 měsíci +87

    Gosh it’s insane that he chose this mall in particular, because like 5 or so years back when my family was on vacation in Dallas, we stopped at the mall, not realizing it was closed. There was no one in the parking lot, and it was one of the most liminal places I’ve ever experienced. Even though I never stepped foot in there, I always wondered what it looked like and wish I could have. It’s also been a major reoccurring location in my dreams, so it really stuck with me and impacted me deeply. It’s amazing to see one of the greats of liminal horror use this location as well to tell a story.

    • @Jen-hen
      @Jen-hen Před 5 měsíci

      matpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

  • @-not-here-
    @-not-here- Před 5 měsíci +10

    The scariest part is when mat tried to have a French accent when he said "reverchon"💀

  • @SGWeber
    @SGWeber Před 3 měsíci +2

    Very fitting too that malls are prevalent in liminal space images like the Backrooms. I believe it was one of your previous videos that mentioned how a lot of the uncanny feeling to liminal spaces is that they're ones we're used to seeing full of people. An empty mall just feels wrong because we remember how much life is supposed to be there.

  • @Proerazer
    @Proerazer Před 5 měsíci +106

    I love how deep MatPat goes into the lore of simple short series, and I'm very happy that this is an episode that actually ends with a statement instead of leaving it on a cliffhanger. Love it!

    • @oscarmeldgaard5407
      @oscarmeldgaard5407 Před 5 měsíci +1

      It isn't all that deep he said most of this in a video with Wendigoon

  • @VillagerMemerOG
    @VillagerMemerOG Před 5 měsíci +2395

    Matpat is easily the best person for lore

  • @skyaoki
    @skyaoki Před 5 měsíci

    seeing this have a mall i use to go to and currently live near is so surreal. driving by it now its literally just an empty lot.

  • @Noobsion
    @Noobsion Před 5 měsíci +2

    There is a video called “exploring Texas dead mall, it is the same mall and I think it has something to do with it, even Kane pixels commented on the vid.

  • @moosemordre
    @moosemordre Před 5 měsíci +59

    Valley View was my favorite mall, growing up. Straight up cried a little watching this series. So many wonderful memories with my parents and my brother.

  • @AtomicTitan1954
    @AtomicTitan1954 Před 5 měsíci +35

    I actually wonder if the Julian Giant was trying to save Wyatt in the end. When Wyatt turns to the Giant, a part of the wall falls down, and looks like a doorway. And when all the lights turn off, only one light stays on and it's lighting up that part of the wall. And at 12:50, you can take "The way out is to look at Reverchon himself" literally. Wyatt looks at him, the wall breaks revealing a doorway of some sort, but Wyatt instead runs away and it costed him his life.

    • @Lanoom
      @Lanoom Před 5 měsíci +11

      At around the 32-minute mark of Part 3, where Wyatt is first getting actively chased by the Giant, Wyatt heads part way up a stopped escalator, at which point the Giant seems to abandon the chase and and starts rolling away. When Wyatt looks toward the top of the escalator, he sees the lights of the whitish upper-area -- which sits above the AMC Theater sign -- flickering and hears what sounds like thunder. He decides to *not* go that way and takes his chance to try another path on the level he was just at, which just leads to another stone wall and the Giant chasing him again.
      It's that area where Wyatt ultimately ends up going, and this time the Giant takes the now-working escalator and we get the "What do you want?!" scene and what you pointed out with the wall, and similar flickering lights and thunder-like sounds.
      This does seem to point to the GIant clumsily trying to herd Wyatt toward a proper exit, but...I dunno. I find myself struggling with, if it was trying to help Wyatt, why The Giant would charge at him with enough force to damage the walkway Wyatt was on, pretty much forcing Wyatt toward attempting the rafter exit and his demise.

  • @manifest8823
    @manifest8823 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I LOVE watching your vids their so satisfying. Have you ever watched everything, everywhere all at once? If you did I think you should make a theory about it. It is a really great movie

  • @pumpkinspicehedgie
    @pumpkinspicehedgie Před 4 měsíci +1

    For a while, the AMC was still open at Valley View - it was only a few safety cones and fences and such that kept moviegoers from going further into the mall. This looks exactly how I imagined it would be like to slip past those cones. It was creepy to me, as someone who’d grown up going to other malls in the area. But the Dallas history here is so fascinating. Thanks for breaking it down - this born-and-raised Dallasite learned a lot!

  • @Rembreiker_lychec9257
    @Rembreiker_lychec9257 Před 5 měsíci +349

    Jeez these intros are amazing!! They look amazing!! I would be surprised if matpat made his own analogue horror series! It’s always a good day when he upload a vid!!

  • @heilamwether8911
    @heilamwether8911 Před 5 měsíci +52

    Tbh, I think the biggest thing about this project by lane pixels, is by how well he remade the mall. I didn’t even realize that was 100% CGI. He really is a league of his own.

    • @hackerexe5903
      @hackerexe5903 Před 5 měsíci

      Fr

    • @Case2_0
      @Case2_0 Před 5 měsíci +2

      I went to that mall dozens of times in its near abandoned state (cheapest AMC in DFW) and I genuinely didn’t know it was CGI. I thought it was old videos with the giant added back in.

  • @OmarHaitham-gu9sh
    @OmarHaitham-gu9sh Před 5 měsíci +1

    am scared of the rolling giant coming back, as an scraped idea is now an main villain /monster of an Kane pixels series.

  • @gate8475
    @gate8475 Před 4 měsíci

    Tnx for your explanation, really, didnt even notice the dead horses, the poster, the documents and the numbers.. really cool! And the whole botany choice, so interesting to have it back in spotlight, last time I heard about so much was in the Martian. So cool he chose this specific story, this specific mall, so much detail and so much effort this guy invested, I wonder what is his next project, how do you even top that, because TOV deserves an award. I think today we think about old malls and tomorrow we gonna be thinking about old yt and brilliant content from this decade

  • @PiddlesShorts
    @PiddlesShorts Před 5 měsíci +51

    That giant thing seriously scares me! The normal version is nice but in the abandoned mall it’s terrifying. Props to Kane.

    • @Jen-hen
      @Jen-hen Před 5 měsíci

      matpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

  • @sorvoe5513
    @sorvoe5513 Před 5 měsíci +27

    So Kane Pixels guest starred on a stream by Wendigoon a while back and after Wendigoon completed the series, he gave him links to two hidden videos. One was basically a history of the Giant and it cut halfway through to the mall. MatPat pulled from the video made of the mall being torn down, but what he didn’t show was a section with a foreman walking through the dilapidated mall. There’s a section of the floor behind the man as he’s talking to the camera. And what do we see in a murky puddle on the ground there? A hand made of leaves.
    That statue stayed in the mall and ultimately died with it. I was hoping MatPat would make that connection, but his analysis of the series was still excellent

  • @user-cn9ed5sz2p
    @user-cn9ed5sz2p Před 4 měsíci +1

    seriously love the intro. keep up the good work!

  • @birdface5145
    @birdface5145 Před 5 měsíci +1

    You know, as soon as matpat covers it, the content farms are gonna milk it dry.

  • @diamondswiss8026
    @diamondswiss8026 Před 5 měsíci +93

    Funny enough I have actually been to the Valley View Mall. I visited not extremely long before its demolition, it was all dead except for the AMC. (I was there to see a movie with my dad at said AMC) I remember being somewhat creeped out by the mall but my dad just felt sad at how it all just slowly died out. But he did say that he felt that sense of nostalgia when I showed him The Oldest View. Even though he’s not really a big fan of horror, he said it made him appreciate the memories more.

    • @Case2_0
      @Case2_0 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Was that random Chinese store by the main escalators still open? They had a “closing soon” display for like 8 or 9 years

  • @yin3229
    @yin3229 Před 5 měsíci +63

    Everyone honestly needs to watch this series for themselves. The dread I felt during the 3rd episode is up their even with the actual big horror greats.

    • @Jen-hen
      @Jen-hen Před 5 měsíci +1

      matpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

    • @rickhillegas2414
      @rickhillegas2414 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@Jen-hen You started your channel 2 weeks ago, have 3 subscribers, and the only videos you have are reposted from a shitposter. you don't have any theories to steal

    • @CastHydra497
      @CastHydra497 Před 5 měsíci

      @@rickhillegas2414 It's a bot

  • @maxwellquipey2716
    @maxwellquipey2716 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I definitely vividly remember this specific giant pop up around the internet a long time ago, crazy.

  • @plantsthezombieking6725
    @plantsthezombieking6725 Před 4 měsíci +2

    When the giant fell on matpat i imagined the metal pipe noise playing when it fell

  • @LydiaDeKett
    @LydiaDeKett Před 5 měsíci +236

    Can we all agree MatPat losing his sanity is keeping ours intact, or is that just me?

  • @Dremag_Gaming
    @Dremag_Gaming Před 5 měsíci +67

    Kinda cool to see how detailed he managed to get the mall. But also kinda sad to see it, like others, get torn down as well. In some ways, wish I could visit a abandon mall.

  • @pasinchanglad9077
    @pasinchanglad9077 Před 4 měsíci +1

    0:28 was a jump scare that made my soul almost bounce off and run💀💀

  • @stuffybroz7936
    @stuffybroz7936 Před 3 měsíci +1

    such a good film! although, even though i watched it about a month ago, is still had a nightmare about being trapped in some abandoned underground structure. crazy.

  • @MrMayMay
    @MrMayMay Před 5 měsíci +7

    Make a film theory video about the mystery gift that Clark Griswold gives his boss in Christmas Vacation

  • @Rosenwood25
    @Rosenwood25 Před 5 měsíci +83

    The sheer flood of nostalgia that hit me when Mat put up a picture of the mall that I grew up near was crazy. Also GATHER MY FELLOW TEXANS! LET YOURSELVES BE KNOWN!!! YEE HAW!!!🤠

  • @Dino.Nerd.
    @Dino.Nerd. Před 5 měsíci

    A mall that I have seen slowly disappear for years is the Emerald Square mall in Massachusetts. It’s bern around for so long, but when COVID started, it lost so many stores, even SEARS, which was a big sponsor of the mall disappeared. It used to be so crowded and now you can run full laps inside the building without running into more then 10 people
    It just shows how much has changed

  • @thenew4559
    @thenew4559 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I like what the philosopher Stefan Molyneux said a while back about excessive nostalgia: (Paraphrasing) "If you find yourself overly attached and nostalgic about something from your childhood, constantly looking back at it with great fondness, it means that you left something behind that you've got to go back and get. You left some positivity, some optimism, maybe some sorrow… you’ve left something behind. Nostalgia is a chain that tethers you to an unprocessed history, it's your subconscious mind telling you 'turn back, turn back!' To free yourself, you have to find a way to go back and recover whatever emotional energy is stuck in the past."
    Of course, normal nostalgia, looking back at good memories with fondness, is healthy, but it becomes a problem when you feel a longing to return to the past, like you can't be happy in the present.

  • @KJ44411
    @KJ44411 Před 5 měsíci +17

    0:31 Ok that one was slick I will admit

  • @crimpcrisps
    @crimpcrisps Před 5 měsíci +36

    I came here for theories, I leave missing the atmosphere of that mall. It mall was just a bit out of range for us to go to shop. But we did frequently go to see movies in the theater and it was so weird. Only about 4 stores were open, and it seemed liked everytime we went, another was closed. Everytime we'd go up into the theater I'd stare down to taped off section into the dark halls, only illuminated by the skylight

  • @myrealnameisnorhing458
    @myrealnameisnorhing458 Před 5 měsíci

    This IMO is Kane Pixels best work yet im so glad you finally made a video about it

  • @CrypticWaves
    @CrypticWaves Před 5 měsíci +1

    Love the duck season reference at the end

  • @WrathVirus
    @WrathVirus Před 5 měsíci +75

    The funny thing is both the Backrooms series and this series have both given me pet peeves.
    The Backrooms: people thinking A-sync created the Backrooms.
    The Oldest View: people think this is related to the Backrooms.

    • @Jen-hen
      @Jen-hen Před 5 měsíci

      im smarter than matpat my theories are better

    • @SphereKnowledge
      @SphereKnowledge Před 5 měsíci

      matpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

    • @SphereKnowledge
      @SphereKnowledge Před 5 měsíci

      matpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

    • @SphereKnowledge
      @SphereKnowledge Před 5 měsíci

      matpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

    • @MrMrprofessor12345
      @MrMrprofessor12345 Před 5 měsíci +7

      Slipping in a real reply, yeah, that is pretty annoying.

  • @DavidGarland-ur5ld
    @DavidGarland-ur5ld Před 5 měsíci

    I remember that mall so vividly, when I saw that statue I had nightmares of that hing for weeks. It was very similar to The Oldest View series too.

  • @fishcraft7323
    @fishcraft7323 Před 3 měsíci +1

    How did MatPat not notice the title “The Oldest View” meaning almost the same thing as nostalgia.

  • @acethetitle
    @acethetitle Před 5 měsíci +93

    MatPat never fails to impress us with his accent pronunciations, and he sounds so good in French. Reminds me of how he correctly pronounces "Elytra" in a Minecraft Game Theory video. That closet he records in has somehow made his voice so iconic.
    EDIT: Try saying "Julien Revenchon" 5 times correctly. It ain't easy !!!

    • @Jen-hen
      @Jen-hen Před 5 měsíci

      im smarter than matpat my theories are better

    • @Janeworx
      @Janeworx Před 5 měsíci +1

      darn bots are ruining youtube

    • @KnowledgeSphere-je9ee
      @KnowledgeSphere-je9ee Před 5 měsíci

      m@tpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

    • @KnowledgeSphere-je9ee
      @KnowledgeSphere-je9ee Před 5 měsíci

      m@tpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

    • @everettw.9610
      @everettw.9610 Před 5 měsíci

      To be fair, his pronunciation of Obregón wasn't perfect, but it was still pretty good.

  • @nicholasfriar8612
    @nicholasfriar8612 Před 5 měsíci +10

    Watched wendigoon react to this when I first saw it and he had Kane pixels on his livestream. Seeing the mall was real after watching that horrifying video was like having the monster in the closet be real but also so incredibly cool at the same time.

  • @AlteredStateGaming
    @AlteredStateGaming Před 5 měsíci +1

    I've never been to this mall, but the nostalgia I felt, with the creepy following mannequin thing, was wanting to play Condemned: Criminal Origins again.

  • @jacoboswald5731
    @jacoboswald5731 Před měsícem

    My wife and I went to a mall a couple days ago and I felt this nostalgia so hard and it was so weird. There were maybe 100 people in the mall and back when I was a kid there were at least 500-1000 at all times. So I was definitely getting some weird backrooms vibes. Cool to see Kane encapsulate this!

  • @douwantabanana
    @douwantabanana Před 5 měsíci +29

    watching the oldest view made me actually scared for the first time watching a youtube series, it is just an amazing series and kane pixels did aa fantastic job making it creepy

    • @Jen-hen
      @Jen-hen Před 5 měsíci

      im smarter than matpat my theories are better

    • @KnowledgeSphere-je9ee
      @KnowledgeSphere-je9ee Před 5 měsíci

      m@tpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

    • @KnowledgeSphere-je9ee
      @KnowledgeSphere-je9ee Před 5 měsíci

      m@tpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

    • @SphereKnowledge
      @SphereKnowledge Před 5 měsíci

      matpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

    • @SphereKnowledge
      @SphereKnowledge Před 5 měsíci

      matpat steals my theories for views and is getting filthy rich off them

  • @ThalliumInfinitum
    @ThalliumInfinitum Před 5 měsíci +12

    Nice to see Matthew Patthew discuss Mr. The Oldest View giving bigger hugs to iceberg boy.

  • @Elish-a
    @Elish-a Před 5 měsíci +2

    A poignant, beautiful and yet hauntingly morose narrative paired with one of the best CGI VFX recreations of a place and time. Awesome atmosphere, Kane outdid himself.

  • @haydenmoeller3893
    @haydenmoeller3893 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Do you think he planned this one as a way for us to understand that he did not want us to look back at the time he was the host?

  • @oriongabriel6966
    @oriongabriel6966 Před 5 měsíci +38

    The best thing for me in this project is that the backrooms wasnt Kanes. But this is his original project, and it looks absolutely amazing. And the fact that he modelled an entire demolished mall AND the big bad is an actual real thing that was featured at the mall kind of roots this in reality. And I can guarantee this woke some peoples deep and forgotten fear of that thing lol.

  • @SwankemasterSupreme
    @SwankemasterSupreme Před 5 měsíci +15

    9:44 hey, you. You’re finally awake.

    • @wl5420
      @wl5420 Před 4 měsíci +1

      You should see that cutscene when you die, Nirn is the afterlife.

  • @erinbathie-moore8478
    @erinbathie-moore8478 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Nothing has truly and intrinsically scared me like these anologue horror videos. This video intro made me jump harder than I have in years. The Backrooms, Old View, and FNAF VHS tapes all scare me in a way nothing else has... I wonder why? 🤔

  • @syilous8845
    @syilous8845 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I would love to see matt do a theory on Angel Hare by The East Patch at some point

  • @freezinggold8406
    @freezinggold8406 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Wendigang made a reaction video to The Rolling Giant and Kane himself reacted with him in the call. Towards the end Kane went into more details about his project and he shows a lot more pictures of the real giant and mall