This Budget 3d Printer Raises The Bar (Bambu Lab A1 Mini & AMS Lite)
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In today's video we take a look at the A1 Mini and the AMS Lite from Bambu Lab. This is a brand new cantilever style 3d printer and multi material station aimed to provide a more budget friendly option in Bambu Lab's lineup. When this was sent to me for testing 3 weeks ago I was not sure what to expect going from CoreXY to a bed slinger but this little printer has far surpassed my initial expectations. There is a ton of tech packed into this machine and I think this is really going to shake up what the expectation is for a $300 3d printer.
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0:30 A small correction: P1S with AMS is $949, P1S without AMS is $699
I noticed that too
Idk how I missed that 😣. Will pin this. Thanks! 👍
Bambu Lab P1P 3D Printer
$599.00 USD from their website🤔
Beat me to it, I just came down here to say that too. When I heard that I was like wow that is impressively wrong lol.
Yeah I had been starting at my script for hours and ready through it multiple times. I think my focus was on all the technical data on the printer. If nothing else it drives my point home in that it the combo is not a budget 3d printer. @@dannonyogurt98
This printer will make the hobby mainstream. The decision to design and market this printer, demonstrates top tier class in the design and marketing teams. Brilliant move Bambo Lab!
This is the first review I've watched (out of four I think) that actually mentioned that this wasn't compatible with the full scale AMS, and vice versa. Thank you for that.
Even though I've seen 3 reviews of this machine already, your take on it was spot on, easy to listen to, and gave me additional information even now that I know most things about this machine. Thanks for the great job as always!
I'm waiting for this printer to be delivered. I noticed that there are two inputs for the AMS system on the printer, so fingers crossed we will soon be able to purchase just the AMS lite and connect for 8 colour printing!
Thank you for showing the details like the nozzle wiper and the sensor that used to adjust pressure advance. First video I've seen to show details like this, which I'm always fascinated to see.
Great review as always! This is another amazing Bambu product, they just keep knocking it out of the park! I’d grab one of these but my next one will be the P1S/AMS. Thanks for sharing! Ur channel is great!
Best review of the all. You showed all that details which everybody else missed. 👍
Thank you sir for actually providing a review with actual information and details.
Great video as always.
Good views of the printer
Thanks for sharing your experience with All of us 👍😀
I wonder if you can run the AMS lit upside-down, so you could screw it to the underside of a shelf above the unit. Then you wouldn't need to change the length of the bowden tubes.
My first thought exactly. Seems viable! 👍
Wondering the same thing as well. That connector cable from the ams to the printer just seems short so maybe an extention (diy or bambu) might be needed
neat idea
I'm also wondering the same thing. Bambu Lab sells longer cables for the standard AMS and it looks like they are using the exact same cable on the AMS Lite, so as long as it will run upside down it should work. The price point makes the A1 Mini Combo hard to pass up but the footprint is a turn off. @@Wynand4
This has been done and confirmed now, if you haven't seen. Someone made a bracket that mounts it above, upside down
Great review. You're the only one so far to mention the rework of the hot end, even though most others talked about having issues printing the mouse project.
I have the A1 Mini on order. I was happy to see it can also be used without the AMS. Yay for the touch screen.
I have watched three other reviews and this is the best of the bunch, you went into the print head and none of the others even mentioned anything about it.
Thank you. I spent a lot of time putting this together and felt like the details included where needed to tell the full story. I am glad to hear it was worth the added info.
Great video as usual! Of all the videos that I have watched on the A1 w/ams your the first person that mentions the amount of width that you would need to setup printer/ams! Kudoos to you. 27" is not workable in many instances where you have other printers. Another downside of the AMS is that it is open air. I can see people purchasing this and then loading up the 4 spools and leaving them on not realizing that depending on humidity they are going to have issues with wet filament..
Ugh, that thing is so amazing. I can't wait until a lot of those features come to Vorons. If I didn't already have 2 Vorons, I'd buy this instantly.
Ok, this brand rise the bar ALOT, I think that Josef will got nightmares. XD Thanks ModBot for this excellent review and so detailed info about every detail and part of the printer, you have done an excellent and profesional job here!.
Thank you! I am eagerly waiting for the pre-order to come up again. I have 2 X1Cs, with AMSs, and this will be my next printer. It just makes sense...
Where did that skull with a beard come from!?!
After seeing the A1 at ERRF and the print samples coming off the machine as I watched, I placed an order for one as soon as orders opened on October 16th. Relating to your comment about placing the printer in an enclosure, what are the restrictions on the lengths of the Bowden tubes leading from the Mini-AMS? I envision placing the Mini-AMS on top of the 3D Sorcerer enclosure that I use.
I'm very excited for the nozzles I hope they can make them work with there machines somehow!
This appears to be an extremely well thought out system. The calibrations and hotend swapping in particular are really impressive to me. I like how everything follows a logical flow, and how they are using the force sensor to do flow calibration. Really hoped the prusa mk4 was going to do that. Also hope it trickles down into the open source world with klipper and marlin. This is a very compelling machine for a new user or someone who is not wanting to tinker.
That said, for anything other than pla, petg, and the harder flexibles, this machine is not optimal. Ive heard that it only goes to 80c on the bed, which is not enough for any engineering filament, and barely enough for petg. It is obviously not enclosed, which means it wont be able to print abs, asa, or any sort of nylon or polycarbonate. I am not a fan of cloud services for physical objects that I purchase, and would not use it if I were to buy this thing, so really all of that work on their part doesnt help me, and could have been spent making better or cheaper printers. Also not a fan of any sort of vendor lock in or remote control/remote software changing without my permission. Especially on a device capable of burning my house down.
Ill not be purchasing this or likely any other bambu printer, but I am glad that there is a player in the market innovating on these old designs and forcing the other players to compete.
Prusa are already using a load cell for Z probing in the NEXT extruder and have said they will use this for other functions in the future too.
Klipper also already has options for using a load cell for doing Z probing.
@@liamventer right, but my point was theyre not using it to do anything but bed levelling yet.
@@pmcquay1Your right. It seems that Prusa's pace of development is slow or conversely Bambu Labs is very fast.
On top: an enclosure should always be considered!
Not only for more materials but also because of fumes, air quality and noise.
Some kind of filter (like a Bento Box) should always be considered ... especially for printing materials like ASA and ABS.
hey modbot!, love your videos
Awesome video and overview. I'm in the market for a new printer coming from an Ender 3 V2 workhorse and honestly the biggest thing holding me up is the footprint.
I love the idea of the mini because it's smaller but if I were to go AMS or even upgrade later I might as well just get the P1S because it's a smaller more compact machine. That's a bit odd to me. I almost would have rather had them design some sort of cage or shell for this that the existing AMS would have worked with on top.
Can you please show the full loading and unloading/changing rolls of filament on the AMS Lite? Changing with filament still in the PTFE, not when it's run out. Would like to see how much the AMS Lite retracts it automatically/how much you have to pull out and respool, etc...
Great review! How big & how thick is that hue forge print & how long did it take to print? Some mid-sized hue forge prints, 2mm thick are taking 12 hours on my mk3s+, & have manual colour swaps too (also I have the same sexy Wera allen key set as you!)
Overall recommended. The disadvantage is that there is no open source and it is inconvenient to buy accessories and modify it by yourself.
Was not the Bambu printer I was hoping would be released next, but still very neat and going to bring a whole lot of new people to the hobby.
I think your feeling are mirrored by many. Hell until I got the brief if you had asked me to guess what their next printer would look like I would have been way off. Agreed though, to an extent it almost feels like cheating. Not having to do even a z offset is not something I am used to.
I sort of cheated and took 2 Laser engraver enclosures I had laying around 1 of which is a Two Tree's brand very heavy duty fire resistant enclosure and cut them both up to fit the A1 Mini w/AMS Lite. I am only using PLA right now but it works well I have a front zipper that get 3/4 of the front and then almost all of the top middle area open's up. I would post a picture but dont think I can but it works well. Then of course had to line the LED lights inside the top edge to give me light. I figured that I go all through the hassle of keeping all my stock of filament in a special container might as well do the same here. I keep 1 Eva dry desicant holder inside the enclosure to keep the moisture out.
Great review bud!
Thanks man :)
Ahhh, if this was available when I got my v1 Ender 3 I would have jumped at it.. I wouldn’t have learnt to tinker though but I wouldn’t have had soo much frustration either. Sweet machine.
I feel you, i wish Bambulabs was around when I bought my older printers. Although I’m very happy I got to learn how to print the hard way with my ender3 v2 and my Flsun qqs pro. I don’t regret buying the P1s it’s definitely worth getting. I plan on selling my ender3 v2 and my Kingroon printers so I can buy me an A1 combo.
What is the brand and color of the filament used for the hair\beard of the skull you showed around 16:23? That's a pretty sick color! Thanks for the great review by the way! You included quite a bit of info that other reviewers didn't.
Noise issues aside, Im intrigued by the A1 minis potential for multi-color prints.
Great video
Amazing video🎉😅
The A1 mini seems to have a lot of potential, but its essential to address its shortcomings.
I bought a P1s and I love it, my only worry is because it’s not open source will parts be hard to get a couple years from now? I really like what Bambulabs is doing, being able to send my prints from my computer or my phone is super convenient, no need to use an SDcard. So far my P1s combo has been super reliable. After getting my P1s all my other printers have been collecting dust.
Cloning nozzles are everywhere in China，If bambu quit from the market, it promises that all products will be open source
The A1 minis transition from high to low-priced printing is a bold move, but its all about execution
I noticed the mouse prints with cubic infill - that's probably the worst infill for delicate prints as the nozle wipes over the infill. Maybe try changing it to Adaptive Cubic, Gyroid etc.
For some reason the default profiles for bambu slicer all use cubic infill and it even becomes a problem for larger prints. I always make sure I have gyroid selected when setting up a new print profile.
I’m wondering if the 250g Sunlu PLA will work on the AMS Light? Would be very handy for those wanting to get lots of colours but don’t want to purchase in 1kg pack.
I will say it is likely not for me, but it seems like a good value for those looking for this type of printer
The A1 minis compact size might be a drawback for some, but it could also fit snugly in my workspace.
I would like to know how well it prints the materials they don't recommend. But the document says it supports?
The hotend is propably heated by passing current through the metal, with a temp sensor in the mount. This would be optimal, since the whole block is heating up, not just a single element so no issues with thermal conductivity
Im curious if the A1 minis AMS support lives up to the hype, considering the price point.
Have you heard if they are going to bring any of the new tech like noise cancelling and the quick swapping nozzles to the P/X series?
In the interview on CNC Kitchen, Bambu's CEO said they will bring the motor noise cancellation on the X1/P1 series too, and that they can because they designed their own driver solution instead of relying on the industry standard supplier (seems to be TI)
I hope the reason Bambu put a nicer screen on this means they have heard us and a screen upgrade for the P1P/P1S is in the works. I know I can do that third party upgrade of my P1s, but I just don't like how janky it looks given part of the reason I bought the printer was the fact that it looks far more refined and professional than most other printers.
People that put so much focus on the screens make me lmao.
It’s generational, I think.
Not sure if it does have a Eddie current sensor underneath. Vector 3d took apart the printer and it has no electronics in that circularly part. Maybe something in the future or they removed it in development. Top quality video as always. Another disruptive printer from bambu. Not a printer I would purchase but I can certainly see this appealing to new comers.
Someone else commented that so I went to see his video. I reached out to see what they say. I had asked some questions about it during testing so I am confused. Another person said it still has an Eddie current sensor but it’s located higher up. Hopefully I’ll get an answer soon.
For a budget-friendly option, the AMS isnt half bad. Its like the off-brand sneakers of 3D printers - functional and wont break the bank
I am absolutely blown away with this printer and this company. I bought an anet A8 +5 years ago, and it's crazy that now, for ~150$ more you can buy a printer that has absolutely nothing to do with the anet. It's like comparing a horse carriage with a modern car. I cannot comprehend how it's possible to pack that much technology into a 350$ printer.
Manual leveling on the anet drives me crazy
Is this an upgrade from am ender 3
Is it ok to use PLA on a PETG textured plate?
Im cautious about the A1 minis noise levels, but Id love to hear more about its print quality.
The only other printer I’ve experience with is the Ender 3 V3 SE. This is infinitely more quiet. At least 3-4x.
No one mentioned the mega combo, which already includes o,2 Stainless and 0,4+0,6 hardened steel nozzles.
It didn’t exist. This video was done prior to launch. 😊
All of the videos that are edited where made prior to launch so we didn’t know the product page combos 👍
the "Mega Combo" has hardened steel hotends, are they worth it? i assume the default is just brass.
If you want to print abrasives it is worth getting. Based on the stock nozzle color it looks like copper but it could be a plated brass I suppose.
Am I right in saying this hasn't even released yet? If so, there are sooooo many comments from people saying they didn't like it and recommending Prusa instead, which makes me think there is some sort of bot/astroturfing thing going on.
I'm currently using my friends OG Ender 3 and I'm enjoying it. Mainly for printing terrain for wargaming and also dipping my toes into printing minis as I don't want the hassle lf dealing with resin and I live in the UK where the temperature in my garage is going to be too low for resin printing most of the year.
The easily swappable nozzle/hotend in this excites me for that reason! Do they come with 0.2mm nozzles, or are they available to order? Have you tried printing something with a bit more fine detail?
Oooops, I posted this comment before the end of the video and just saw you already mentioned about the nozzle availability. Thanks!
do you think they will have foreseen the possibility of being able to mount it on the P1P too?
The AMS Lite? It is possible. The way you need to access things though sitting on top of the printer may make the most sense. I am curious to see if they add support.
Nice printer. Quality components. Engineered well within constraints. Except for the excess use of material and wasted material (which I feel is the 💸🐄 for BLb), it is a robust maintenance free system. Glad to see upclose details of the heater block. Seems like the heat chamber built into toolhead, with heat transferred through conduction alone. That explains large flat surface area of hotend. The electrical spring contact behind the melt chamber is probably used, to ensure heater is not energized, witout hotend present!. Eventhough the design is innovative, it will inturn, impose limits on max hotend temps. Will be interesting to see toolhead disassembly, and the eddy current sensing. Excellent review👌❤👍👍
Still blows my mind how much of a fuss people make about the p1p screen. Its faster then the X1 it does not lag and I have no issues using it. Perfectly suitable option for it
My X1 screen doesn’t lag.
I don't think the AMD Lite can be mounted somewhere else... The spools are color coded based on the length of tube they feed into since the retraction is handled by springs. Moving it on top may requier spring changes in the AMS to compensate for the extra friction
You may be right. I still won't rule it out. AMS to Hydra mod was a pretty big conversion so there could be something similar that uses the primary components of the Lite but also mods them a bit.
Although I hope that is not needed.
I doubt that.
From technical point of view it is marvelous device and it is cheap as hell. Only issue I have is the AMS. It just does not make sense to me in this price market. It costs 450 USD, which is only 500 more to get P1S + AMS.
Multi material print is expensive, I mean like 4x more expensive as for material consumption, and the difference to P1S is just 20 kilos of PLA. I mean, If you can't afford P1S you probably cannot afford AMS multi color printing either. You don't need to print multicolor, you can just use AMS for for convenience of material swapping and I believe many people with X1C AMS combo do so (I do), but if you don't have money to print often, infrequent changing of filament will not bother you as much.
TLDR: A1 mini without AMS is unbeatable machine for beginners and/or occasional makers. If you have the need to print often, P1S with AMS would be my recommendation. But my recommendation means nothing :-) and I fully understand and support buying stuff just because you want it, and I do want it.
Can you attach a regular AMS to the A1 mini?
No
There is no eddy current sensor inside the disc shaped part, it's empty.
Průša killer. 😜
Ya a normal not over techy video For us normal folks
Vector3D's teardown shows there is no sensor fitted where you indicate the eddy sensor is. I am guessing they were planning to use an eddy senor there As a z sensor but are instead also using the strain gauge for Z probing.😢
That’s wild. I just looked into that part of his tear down. I even asked a few questions about the sensor during my testing. I will send an email today for clarity with a screen capture from his video.
Also, an eddy current sensor cannot be used for testing extrusion pressure as stated in the video. It would measure proximity to a conductor. The pressure would be measured by the loadcell.
@@JonS it was not totally clear to me how it was being used for that and I was told “The Eddy Current Sensor can sense the tiny flexing of the hotend to calculate the pressure of filament inside”. It is entirely possible my contact misunderstood and meant load cell.
Further investigation suggests they were planning to use an eddy senor there below the fan duct as a beacon style Z sensor, that senses bed proximity, but instead they opted to use an eddy current sensor above the heat sink to detect movement of the heat sink for Z probing as well as for active flow control. I am guessing it senses movement of the magnet installed in the heat sink. Very clever design.
The A1 minis AMS support for multi-color printing sounds cool, but Im a bit wary of its limitations.
Im all about the DIY scene. Anyone here tried modding the A1 mini for better performance?
If you want DIY don't get a Bambu. They are great machines when you just need a workhorse that prints day in and day out but don't expect to be modding anything on them.
Ok bambu lab, now you've got me hooked. Almost.
The build volume is just too small aswell, not suitable for my usecase sadly...
They should’ve made a Voron 0
As a long-time Prusa user, I decided to give Bambu Labs A1mini a try. While they offer good value for the price, they lack the build quality, customer support, and community that Prusa offers.
Let me guess u have never seen one? Ive had the prusa mini and i have a1 mini. The a1 mini is waaaaay better build quality and Bambulabs community is pretty much as big as prusa, if not bigger theese days? Yea Prusa has better support, bambulabs is decent though. But for prusa you also pay 2/3 of the price for that support.
@@Nikelaj94yours is the overwhelming opinion. The A1 mini takes a meaty 💩 on the Prusa mini.
It doesn’t seal the box and cannot print ABS. I tried the function of the overall consumables, but it didn’t work. It’s noisy.
Noisy compared to what? The only experience I have is an Ender 3. This is infinitely more quiet.
I wish this would have come out last year. Would have bought this instead of my Creality S1 pro. This is such a better printer
Smaller build volume though,
too bad they didn't at least go with an ender 3 build volume
Prusa is never coming back from this one
This is pretty insane! 🤯
Definitely never expected a bed slinger from Bambu. However I'm glad they did it. I feel like this project must've been government funded in secrecy for some long game we're not aware of yet.
3D打印机是非常低级的技术，我认为我们的政府对此不屑一顾。
Modbot. love your content and thank you. Friendly tip: @ 8:56 in this video you fully display the QR code that allows anyone to bind your printer to there account. You really should cut or blur that from your video. At a minimum, if your A1 is connected to the cloud/internet this would allow anyone to control your printer, view the camera etc.
maybe you can only bind a particular printer once.. I didn't try it, but my bambu handy app was able to read the code in your video and prompted me to add your printer to my account. I stopped there and wanted to let you know ASAP.
I really don’t understand why they made a new ams when they had one that worked well and just needed some minor changes
Because this one is less expensive?
I have to point out thst Bambu Labs after-sales customer service response is too slow
The AMS looks like a DJI mini 3 lol
can it print asa?
Can any bed slinger?
Remember that its actually mentioned that this is not compatible with full size AMS!
Funny how everyone assembles the scraper the wrong way. Good review however!
Then it's simply bad design 🙄
Noise levels are a deal-breaker for me; can anyone share their tips for quieter printing with the A1 mini?
Sure, print slower. Fan noise is inevitable at higher speeds, there’s no real way around it
@@proaudiorestore8926This is a spam bot btw. All videos about this printer have tons of spam comments that appeared at around the same time.
This comment is from before anyone other than reviewers had the printer.
While its nice, its not what I expected from a newly released machine from Bambu Lab
This is the printer for everyone who is curious about getting into 3D printing. They just made everyone else extinct in my eyes zero reason to recommend anything else. I love it!
Tried my hand at 3D printing with the A1mini, and its like the DIY craft kit of 3D printers. Fun for tinkering but not for serious projects.
Start off with how open the printer is. 20 minutes and I saw nothing about the firmware. Glad I searched the transcript rather than watch this.
If you are looking for open firmware this is not the printer for you buddy 👍
Assemble the bambu lab scraper: czcams.com/video/mUSoCr1y9Jk/video.html
Sounds like theyre promoting a cheap iPhone
This mini is amaaaaazing. Nothing cheap about it at all. I wish I would have bought this before my Ender. This takes a meaty 💩 on it.
What weirds me out, about this excellent looking printer, is that there are four bowden tubes connected to the print head.
Bambu were 'this close' to having four independent nozzles, and a lot less wasted plastic.
Also, for something aimed at the home and schools, mothers and teachers are going to hate all those little scrapes of extruded plastic messing up the place.
Yeah, just print a 💩 bucket that connects to the cutter. Not a problem.
@@joelamaro4525 Wasn't really the argument I was making was it??? It's about the issue of waste, not how you handle the waste
@@DaveTimperley handle the waste as in having less waste. 🤦🏻♂️ lmfao!
n1 lets have fun lol unexpected bedslinger but in office or study room
not bad color system under 500 with cam
Lol, the prusa bots are in full effect in this comments section. Feeling threatened?
I was excited about the A1minis features, but it fell short of my expectations. Its not suitable for those who need larger prints or want to work with ABS. The overall consumables feature was a letdown, and its noisier than expected
Since this is really designed for new people who are just getting into 3d printing, it would be great to make a video with someone with zero knowledge and get their impressions. Like one of your parents perhaps or a young person.
Actually the more I think about it I think this would be a very informative video. If you can re-box the printer and AMS and reset the OS so it can be done from scratch again.
Sounds like a budget iphone, ahahaha
The fact they call it the A1 "mini" leads me to believe they have a larger scale A1 in the pipeline.
Does Prusa have a larger Prusa mini? 🤔
ah a $299 pooping printer
Nah... just put the printer on the edge of the table. Use a trash can to catch the poop.
Bamboo has missed the mark on this one. Why would anyone want to print faster than 50 mm/sec in an entry level printer? 🤔
Why wouldn’t we? I do regularly.
When it comes to 3D printing, Prusa has consistently raised the bar. The A1mini Bambu Lab is a good choice for those on a tight budget, but they cant match the features and precision of Prusa printers.
The A1 mini takes a meaty 💩 on the Prusa mini by every measure except perhaps DIY.
I had high hopes for the A1mini, but it couldnt meet my expectations. Its not ideal for those who want a variety of colors or need to print ABS. The overall consumables feature was a letdown.