You're Probably Using Trekking Poles Wrong

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  • čas přidán 23. 08. 2024

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  • @OscarHikes
    @OscarHikes  Před měsícem +8

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    • @estrafalario5612
      @estrafalario5612 Před měsícem

      Hi! Thanks for sharing the tips. Could I ask you what mountain is that one appearing at 2:35?

    • @OscarHikes
      @OscarHikes  Před měsícem

      @@estrafalario5612 Thanks! It's Corno Grande - the highest peak in the Apennine mountain range in central Italy, Abruzzo. :)

  • @stefanoberli5920
    @stefanoberli5920 Před měsícem +85

    Happy to say that apparently I'm already doing everything right. Trekking poles are good on terrain up to a certain difficulty, imo. You need to know when to put them away and use your hands to balance and grab hold of things..

    • @OscarHikes
      @OscarHikes  Před měsícem +8

      Yup, exactly!

    • @csn583
      @csn583 Před měsícem

      There's some terrain I'll bring one so I have an outrigger in the downhill hand, and a dexterous hand for grabbing uphill. Also a good choice when you have a fair few miles in before it gets technical and want to shave the weight and pack volume. Also depends if you're camping and want/need two to setup, but finding one tree is far easier than finding two perfectly spaced for your shelter, and one immovable object is infinitely better than none for cranking on tension.

    • @stefanoberli5920
      @stefanoberli5920 Před měsícem +1

      @@csn583 Good points! Will give that a go sometime. That being said, I use quite beefy trekking poles (ski touring poles actually). But I really rely on them when going downhill, good way to get a decent upper body workout in. For long distance hikes with less elevation I would probably consider getting something lighter.

  • @higler.
    @higler. Před měsícem +33

    Gotta say, very classy how you did the advertisement. You added a timestamp and even a little duration bar at the bottom. Also, great tips! Much respect!

  • @charliemoosmann9331
    @charliemoosmann9331 Před měsícem +25

    Hi Oscar, i totally agree with all your explanations but one. In downhill movement, we teach the hikers to go out of the strap, so in case the are falling, the poles can be thrown away from the hiker to prevent injuries. We had cases of poles breaking and then piercing the hikers thighs, so we started to teach this technik with major succsess.

    • @CDL_Gaming
      @CDL_Gaming Před 28 dny

      But the point of the trekking pole is to prevent falling and slow your descent in the event of a fall, isn't it? Why would you get rid of the safety device meant to help you? That's like dangling from a cliff and cutting the cord because there's a chance you could hang yourself.

    • @mosesmodels
      @mosesmodels Před 28 dny +10

      Yes, the poles are used to prevent falling, but fact is hikers fall even using poles. In this sepcific szenario, it's safer to have the option to throw them aside and not falling on them !! Imagine you're hiking downwards and one of your poles breaks (and this will be in the second you put weight on it) the chance of alling is very very high! Ask yourself if you would prefer falling on them or would it be less dangerous to have them out of the way? Fact is that people pierced their thighs with a broken pole !! But in the end, the choice is yours.

    • @maggiem.5904
      @maggiem.5904 Před 27 dny +8

      @@CDL_GamingHe didn’t say “don’t use the trekking poles going downhill”. He said “don’t put your hand through the strap going downhill”. You can still use them for support and balance without the strap. If you fall anyway, you can just let go and do whatever you need to do to break your fall and prevent injury. If the poles are attached to your wrists, at the least they get in your way, at the worst they can cause injury.

    • @mosesmodels
      @mosesmodels Před 27 dny +2

      exactly ...thank you for your further explanations. 👌

    • @karipintakivi9153
      @karipintakivi9153 Před 20 dny

      If you have to throw the poles away you are wrapping the straps wrong. With the proper under and up method the pole drops away when you open your hand, but hangs by the strap and do not get lost.

  • @obliqueangler
    @obliqueangler Před měsícem +28

    Like ice axes and ski poles, if the strap is adjusted properly for length and I put my hand through the strap from the bottom and hold onto the grip over the straps, the straps help support my weight that I'm putting onto the poles so I don't have to grip the poles as tightly with my hands. That significantly decreases the amount of stress put on my wrist and forearm muscles and the overall amount of energy expended over a day of uphill & downhill hiking.

    • @thomasmusso1147
      @thomasmusso1147 Před měsícem +2

      👍 Yes.
      It's the Strap over the TOP of the Hand that takes the load / does the work.
      Pole positioned loosely between the Thumb and Forefinger with the Ring and Little Fingers helping out as and when required.
      When I do wear Gloves in cold conditions, most wear on my gloves takes place from the Straps going through the junction between my Thumb and Forefinger.

  • @tomb7901
    @tomb7901 Před měsícem +48

    I used to roll my eyes at people using trekking poles. Then, I used them. I'm hooked. I consider them essential gear.
    I was lost in the woods in Maine. Only meant to do a little 5 mile hike. I've never been there before. Was totally unprepared. Underdressed. Zero gear with me. The trail blazes were awful. Before I knew it, I was lost. It was getting dark and cold 30F. My sweater was soaked in sweat. My only hope was to get to the car. I was dead on my feet tired. (Had done two other hikes earlier in the day) If I stopped or fell, I'm sure I'd have froze to death. I picked up two sticks and made "trekking poles." They kept me upright and going. Without them, I would have fallen from exhaustion or loss of balance (it was nearly pitch dark) I will never go in the woods without being properly equipped again. That includes trekking poles or a walking stick.
    On another trip, a pole saved me from unknowingly walking off of a cliff and falling 50 feet. I was pushing through super thick, tall grass with rocky ground. I was using a pole to feel for unseen boulders under the grass. I plunged the pole down and felt nothing. Looking more closely, I discovered I was standing very close to a sheer drop. The grass was growing up to and over the edge.
    Lol. I'm bringing the poles.

    • @louisegogel7973
      @louisegogel7973 Před 22 dny +3

      Phew!

    • @kursantstrzelecki2958
      @kursantstrzelecki2958 Před 20 dny +8

      Poles. Always bring them. Greetings from Poland.

    • @tomb7901
      @tomb7901 Před 20 dny +2

      @@kursantstrzelecki2958 Hahaha! Yes, it's good to have a Pole with you, on an adventure. Friendly, capable people and most are excellent cooks too. 😁👍🏻. I have some Polish ancestry as well.

    • @Vegan_Ape_2018
      @Vegan_Ape_2018 Před 20 dny +2

      I'm glad you survived, dum bass. 😂

    • @seanmikhael1767
      @seanmikhael1767 Před 17 dny

      I'd rather twist my ankle and die from exposure, than look like a nerd.

  • @Metiumo
    @Metiumo Před měsícem +8

    I’d also suggest not putting too much of your weight on the trekking poles when descending very steep terrain. This autumn in Patagonia, I saw a man who had to be rescued by helicopter because one of his poles failed and he ended up diving head-first into the rocks.
    Great video as always! Greetings from Argentina 🇦🇷

  • @mctaguer
    @mctaguer Před měsícem +12

    I've used my poles a few times now on fairly steep terrain with unsure footing; also once during low visibility. I think the poles saved my life; certainly kept me from falling numerous times. I got poles based mostly on recommendations and hoping to lessen impact on my knee--my expectations were modest. After one hike on terrain, I was pleasantly surprised 1) how much they improved my footing and balance and 2) over the course of a long day, how much they saved my knees (especially going downhill).

  • @carmenmartinez2882
    @carmenmartinez2882 Před měsícem +11

    Thanks for the advice! At 67 with osteoarthritis even though I can no longer do long hikes this helps a lot since in spite of everything I’m still tent camping and enjoying nature just not backpacking.

  • @clayeewing
    @clayeewing Před 23 dny +3

    Twenty-five+ years of using trekking poles has long shown me the benefits. Stabbing down to stop a sliding foot; pushing hard up a mountain path with a full pack; even just setting a rhythm on the flats; poles used properly save one from falls, save energy going up, even saving one's fingers from feeling like sausages after a few hours. Downhill use has often stymied me, but I still make it work as you see in this video. Lucky for me, Leki had a short video all those years ago and I realized I was doing it wrong (and, thus, couldn't figure out a real benefit for them). And in the ensuing years seen thousands of people who have never seen this or any other video--or even read the instructions that come with the poles--and seem to use them as fashion accessories. It's hard to keep my mouth shut watching someone struggle up a hill with the poles tucked into their pack, but to each their own.

    • @louisegogel7973
      @louisegogel7973 Před 22 dny

      Might want to hand out a little car with a few of your favorite video links for people to have a chance in their own time to benefit from what you know that works.

  • @1a1u0g9t4s2u
    @1a1u0g9t4s2u Před 19 dny +3

    Agree 100% with the tips you shared. Many of them are common sense but my wife needed to hear it from a person like yourself, not just from me. Thanks for sharing.

  • @bobmatch
    @bobmatch Před měsícem +5

    I found that the rubber tips are useful if you are hiking over boulders. the plain tips may slip on the hard rocky surfaces which can be a problem if you're going downhill!

  • @charlescarlson1290
    @charlescarlson1290 Před 28 dny +2

    Spot on Oscar! I’ve used trekking poles for over 50 years. It never ceases to amaze me how many folks use them incorrectly. There lots of bad info out there, you’re good.

  • @iaina3251
    @iaina3251 Před měsícem +9

    Good video.
    A good tip for new users of poles is "It takes time to get used to them"
    I hear a lot of people say that they tried them once and couldn't get on with them. That's normal, most of us feel like that, you have to get used to walking with them. It takes time but is totally worth it.

  • @earthjustice01
    @earthjustice01 Před měsícem +4

    Lots of good info here. In my trek in Iceland I was taught to put all my fingers through the loop,except for the thumbs which wrap part way round the pole. That worked like a charm from then on and I haven't looked back. Before that I wasn't using the loops at all and was considering cutting them off.

  • @MattiTrails
    @MattiTrails Před měsícem +24

    You're gripping them too tightly. Check out how the cross country skiers do it. The strap needs to be tight, the grip of your fingers loose. - Matti

    • @thomasmusso1147
      @thomasmusso1147 Před měsícem +2

      👍 Yes!
      Strap going over the Top of the hand doing the work / taking the load.

    • @delavan9141
      @delavan9141 Před 10 dny

      LOL I just made a comment pointing that out, drawing from my XC ski experience. But I never had the straps "tight" but cinched enough so my hands were at grip-level when putting downward force on the straps. Also, we don't put our thumbs through the loops.

  • @markram4444
    @markram4444 Před měsícem +3

    Glad to know I’m using poles correctly! I’ve always been a huge advocate for trekking poles and finally convinced my friends to get some. But it always shocks me how often I see hikers using poles incorrectly or not at all since they think it’s only for balance.

  • @ericb.4358
    @ericb.4358 Před 27 dny +2

    Once I began cross country skiing and ski racing in the late '70s, AND using the ski pole strap properly, I have always used my trekking poles the same way and have helped others to do the same.
    BTW, RUBBER TIPS with steel center inserts are great for rocky terrain as we have in the desert southwest and the mountains.. Plus, as tent poles WITH TIPS ON THE GROUND rubber tips don't sink in mush like bare carbide tips do.

  • @Vellzi
    @Vellzi Před měsícem +4

    I'm just starting out and you're one of the 4 other hiking channels that I've really liked. Feels like real wisdom and not just an ad. Also, I love the 'to the point' approach in the editing and your teaching style. Some of the other channels I've subscribed to are Americans and I love those people but oh boy they sometimes take a while to get to their point! Thanks for the videos

    • @lyndaniel3369
      @lyndaniel3369 Před 7 dny

      I'm an American and I agree with your comment. Ever since YT required longer videos, many people find it harder to expand their 8 minute spiel into 15 minutes or more, so they just ramble. Of course, there are naturally garrulous talkers, too.

  • @hiw9528
    @hiw9528 Před měsícem +2

    The video is a good confirmation for how I use my trecking-poles for years already -- mainly following my own experience.

  • @FrankNutzlos
    @FrankNutzlos Před měsícem +3

    You show it the right way. Just one hint: About 30 jears ago it saved my life when my hand was "entagled" in the sling of the trekking pole. It stoped me from falling further down a steep slope. As there were almost no dedicated trekking poles in the 90th we were using ski poles which fortunately were much more rigid and stable. So it might be a good idea not to go too lightweight in some parts of your equipment.

  • @oldunion
    @oldunion Před měsícem +2

    Only thing I notice on the downhill you didnt specifically mention, but you did show was using the strap correctly lets you easily move your hands up to the top of the pole grip as you descend. A much better position for the wrist when descending.

  •  Před 22 dny +1

    I was taught correct way to put on skiing poles when I was maybe 4. Never understood why it was done that way but I've done it that way ever since. Now I understand! Thanks :)

  • @briseboy
    @briseboy Před 28 dny +2

    That correct method is the way EVERY x-c and past alpine skiers wear poles.
    It was the mountaineers who appear to have first used poles for trekking, mostly for reducing stress while going downhill with 20-40 kg backpack loads.
    The double poling with that weight was necessary in rocky terrain.
    i use them to move nettles, spiky flora and branches, and Toxicodendron, poison oak, ivy, sumac, so that you will not brush it and experience the itching/blistering, and recommend poles wherever these species are common.. It's more convenient than avoidance.
    Vastly increased ease when rising from a rest while packing, though trekking poles unlike ski poles claim don't weight them. If they are not suitable for weighting, just buy good ski poles instead, which ARE.

  • @IkiyouKai
    @IkiyouKai Před 22 dny +1

    Very timely video, I'm practicing for Mt Fuji this month and am planning to use trekking poles for the first time!

    • @louisegogel7973
      @louisegogel7973 Před 22 dny

      I would go out on many walks and practice with the poles until you don’t have to think about it because it comes naturally to you, and as other commenters said, take your hands out of the strap when going down hill so the poles can fall away and not injure you if you do happen to fall despite using them.

  • @grahamnewton4381
    @grahamnewton4381 Před 28 dny +1

    I have used poles for many years and agree with this video. The only thing I would add is that on very steep climbs on certain terrains I sometimes find it useful to place both poles ahead of me on the higher level and use them like a handrail.

  • @mctaguer
    @mctaguer Před měsícem +1

    I definitely adjust my pole lengths on steep inclines and declines. Most of these tips I had seen elsewhere, but can also say that, from experience and paying attention, a lot of this people can learn on their own--observing what works and doesn't.

  • @tedcatranis
    @tedcatranis Před měsícem +1

    Good video. I see many people make the mistakes you described. This is a good review for beginner or intermediate hikers. I have a couple important hints to add. It is sometimes helpful to place a small rubber boot on the end of the pole to assist traction on rocks and in water situations. It also helps to sneak up on birds. Second, and I see this a lot, as you seem to imply, shorter length on the way up, slightly longer on the way down. I see people with long poles reaching and basically over striding with their poles on the way up. It creates instability and wastes a lot of energy.

  • @BeatOdermatt
    @BeatOdermatt Před měsícem +2

    I am walking mainly in Australia. Trekking poles have one important advantage which may be bigger than any others. The vibration of the poles hitting the ground signals to snakes that danger is coming and they move away. Mind you, death adders will not move.

  • @thomasmusso1147
    @thomasmusso1147 Před měsícem +2

    👍👍👍.
    I agree with you on almost all of the content except for the 'grip'.
    Now 74, since coming to Switzerland, i have been 'Nordic Walking' 4-5 times per week more than 10 years now and learned the following technique from my Swiss Walking Friends .. and by observing others .. one learns a great deal through observation 😊.
    The Pole Strap (wrist junction / TOP of hand) is what one uses to drive forward .. or brake when going downhill and not the Pole Hand Grips (going up or down hill, 'picking' one's way through difficult, broken terrain is an exception (more so downhill) and when a firm grip on the poles is required .. and then, the hands are out of the straps in case of a fall and one does not wish to possibly become 'one' with a pole 😏).
    Load / driving force is taken via the straps by the top of the hands / wrist joint. Pole handle nestled between the open 'V' of the Thumb and Forefinger to keep it in place with the Ring Finger and 'Pinky' helping out as and when required .. hand open and relaxed. When in motion, no ('death' 😁) grip needed on the poles at all.
    My poles are budget 'Decathlon' Aluminium ones with normal straps. I like them because of the adjustability in length they give me .. strapped to my pack, walking or using as poles with a tarp.
    Some of my colleagues have the fancy carbon fibre models with 'clip-on' straps that have a larger load bearing surface over the top of their hands .. sort of a semi triangular 'top glove'.
    Try it. For some, it may take a bit of getting used to but once mastered, one doesn't not normally go back.
    A good share .. thanks. I'm sure that many will benefit from your advice. Take care ..

  • @martinpahl5652
    @martinpahl5652 Před měsícem +5

    My wife and have been hiking, climbing and mountaineering for around half a century, of course also using trecking poles. I more or less gave up using them when I found they did't help my knees as much as hoped, and also had a couple of unpleasant, uncontrollable falls when the tip got stuck and I couldn't get my hand out of the strap in time, having a rotating fall around the pole. My wife continued with them, but I have noticed they are beginning to negatively affect and reduce her leg and hip mobility, especially in rocky hiking terrain. Instead of using using ideal (dynamic) foot positions as given by the terrain, she tends to limit them to the positions between the poles. This leads to a limitation in motion even in situations without poles, for example when we go canyoneering. We are trying to combat that and now only take poles with us for trips where we see a distinct advantage of them. Oh, yes, we have a UL-tent that needs trecking poles to erect, so that is one time we have to take them.

    • @eugenek4493
      @eugenek4493 Před měsícem +1

      Great comment. We have many trails that are rocky and on the steeper side where I live and I see most people not being helped by poles. The main problem is their hip position is behind causing a) more stress on their knees, especially when stepping down and putting their foot sideways to the slope, b) more stress on their back that needs to compensate for leaning forward, c) the core muscles that are best at keeping the balance are not active, d) they walk too straight and the balance on the foot is suboptimal for maximum traction, e) quad muscles are overworked on descents not being balanced by hamstrings.
      There are technical situations where poles are handy but not for majority of people I see on our trails.

  • @Guy-Martin
    @Guy-Martin Před 11 dny

    It's very similar to how we learned to use ski poles when we were kids. Thanks for sharing.

  • @Amazonian11
    @Amazonian11 Před 13 dny

    Thanks so much! I dont use my trekking poles often but i may be needing them on an upcoming trip and this is a very helpful reference! Kudos! 🤙🏻

  • @WillN2Go1
    @WillN2Go1 Před měsícem

    Terrific video. Always good to remember how to use the straps and why. It's a bit counterintuitive - but once you understand - it makes absolute sense.
    When I was hiking very steep mountain trails in Japan I was always adjusting my poles. No one else was. Couldn't they see how much better mine were working? I love being half mountain goat with four points of ground contact.
    I'd recommend that unless you always hike from home or your car, to get the folding poles that collapse tighter. Then they never stick out of your day bag, never get in the way - so you will always have them.
    Also you don't need the most expensive poles. Almost anything will do. I became a user in China many years ago when my knee was giving me trouble. Those poles cost $5 US each. Loved them. I'm an old guy with a 'tricky' knee, sometimes it hurts, then it doesn't. Poles solve most of this.
    Get an extra pair of rubber feet (don't bother with the longer 'foot' doesn't seem to make any difference) and when you use them tape them on. Many parks don't want people chipping the rocks with the bare tips, And if you tape the feet on, mud won't suck them off. (And maybe attach some orange paracord so when that mud in Dorset that suck two off in one day, impossible to retrieve or even find! I could've just pulled up on the string.)

  • @alanjones4622
    @alanjones4622 Před měsícem +1

    Most of the time I use LEKI Micro Trail Vario carbon poles with the "shark tooth" grip. There is no strap to adjust and the basket is small and non-removeable. The strap is like a cut away glove and is of benefit if you switch to Nordic Walking when reaching a flat section of terrain. Your grip of the pole needs to be relaxed for the Nordic Walking action.

  • @FAS1948
    @FAS1948 Před 22 dny +1

    I don't think they existed when I started hiking and scrambling, but I tried them when they were available, and was never quite convinced of their utility. I am a loner and preferred going solo, so although I know they don't weigh much, I could not afford any unnecessary weight when was I out for several days and nights, and only took what was essential for survival.

  • @talljohn66
    @talljohn66 Před měsícem +6

    Always have a cup on the end of your pole. If you hit soft ground or a crack in the rocks it will get stuck and throw you off balance. Experience can be a heartless teacher.

    • @kobedemuelenaere1007
      @kobedemuelenaere1007 Před měsícem

      Unless you’re walking regularly through loose and steep scree, having the pole sink in deep is necessary there!

  • @oldunion
    @oldunion Před měsícem +1

    I can't tell you how many times I make this case and people are like, "meh, SuchandsuchOnthetrail says otherwise on youtube, or cut to them off, or...." until they try it and have the ah-ha! moment.

  • @amberbydreamsart5467
    @amberbydreamsart5467 Před měsícem +1

    my grip's been right, but I think i've been setting them down too far forward on flat terrain!! i'll give the further back method a go next time I'm out with them!
    I started out not using trekking poles, then my first backpacking trip where my knees were sore after I gave them a go, never had sore knees since! my ankles give out first by a long shot. Now I use them any hike more significant than a daily walk, they're just so nice to have especially on downhills and uphills. Feels great to have my arms helping with the propelling up or bracing down!

  • @gareth15
    @gareth15 Před měsícem +1

    You are quickly becoming my favourite CZcamsr 🙌

  • @nealesmith1873
    @nealesmith1873 Před 29 dny +1

    Good info! I prefer to use a single longer staff.

  • @patty109109
    @patty109109 Před 3 dny

    I’m new to tracking poles and I think this was a great video 😊

  • @dam2855
    @dam2855 Před 4 dny

    After miles of thru hiking, I find it easier to use my trekking poles without any strap : less risk of injury if I fall, easier to handle and remove if I stop, more options of grip (high or low grip depending on the terrain / inclination), lighter, less hassle. The only downside is that you have to work a little bit on your wrist grip, but it is really not a big deal (you get used to it).
    Going back to the good old shepherd stick !

  • @CaveSkiSAR
    @CaveSkiSAR Před měsícem

    Great points. When I teach Nordic skiing to beginners I have them just do a normal arm swing with walking and the ski poles dragging. This get them away from the same foot same arm forward motion.
    As a Nordic skier I see many folks using the straight through grip - people are used to doing this from Alpine skiing. You get no power from pushing off against the strap. Most Nordic ski poles don't have a fat top - which makes putting your poles in your palms for push-off less comfortable. Adjustable poles are important - this helps with the pole placement. I often make the downhill side longer on a steep traverse. Shorten for going up, lengthen for going down - when I want more reach. Also a ladder lock / flip lock is more secure than a twist lock.
    I sometimes put tip guards/rubber feet on - so the tips don't skate on hard surfaces, sink into mud. As well as changing out the baskets. I mostly use a 3/4 circle basket so the front of the basket is flat, right angle to the direction of travel.

    • @karipintakivi9153
      @karipintakivi9153 Před 20 dny +1

      Putting the hand straight through the strap is a big mistake for alpine skiing also, can not reach out in turns.

  • @musicman53
    @musicman53 Před měsícem

    I bought Leki poles years ago for my first big 5-day tramp in decades, but for the first hour while ascending I struggled with my way-to-heavy pack at the rear of my group. I suddenly "clicked" and found the correct rhythm and technique with my poles, and within 15 mins I had overtaken everybody and was way out front. My buddies reckoned I had afterburners, but I calculated that for almost no extra effort I was getting 2cm extra stride length while ascending and on the flat. I'm 71 now and still use them on every tramp, and I use them exactly as you describe.

  • @Juanlu.
    @Juanlu. Před měsícem

    Viendo tus explicaciones concluyo que hago las cosas bien. Tengo una lumbalgia y tendinitis rotuliana desde hace años y gracias a mi par de bastones Leki puedo permitirme caminatas muy largas y con pesadas mochilas de travesía. En las bajadas muy pronunciadas adopto la postura de "sigilo" (como si fuera ladrón tratando de pasar desapercibido) es la que menos castiga mis sensibles rodillas y me permite bajar con más rapidez.
    Gracias por tus vídeos, Óscar. Saludos desde España (que ganemos hoy)!

  • @karipintakivi9153
    @karipintakivi9153 Před 20 dny +3

    Having used ski & trekking poles for almost 70 years I have to say practically all "pole instructors" use them somewhat clumsily, including you. Sorry to say. When the strap is used like you advice (correctly) there is no need to squeeze the grip as tight as you do in some of the clips. Hand - grip connection is more like a ball joint, as there is no need to grip them hardly at all, back of the hand taking all the weight with the strap.

  • @philipoakley5498
    @philipoakley5498 Před 10 dny

    I personally use a longer pole as I'm well used to using Nordic skiing poles. When planted the pole, for me, should be angled such that it acts like a bannister rail on a steep set of stairs.
    Small adjustment to the length of the poles will make a significant difference, folks should try first shortening and then lengthening their poles to see if things improve one way or the other. You'll quickly get the feel of when it's 'right'. And do look up what the Nordic skiers say, even if it's only to get an alternate viewpoint that may not be applicable to your conditions!
    And depending, you may find that a single pole can be just as helpful (especially if you find a loner lost pole to use ;-).

  • @gregvanpaassen
    @gregvanpaassen Před měsícem

    I've been tramping (NZ hiking) for years with only one pole, but I'm planning to go to two now. This was useful. Thank you, Oscar!

  • @gharqad
    @gharqad Před 20 dny

    New subscriber - loving the sane, sensible advice, and the no-nonsense friendly delivery. One question - your gear listings never seem to include this fantastic cap you wear in this and other videos. What is it and where can we get one? Thanks for the great videos, looking forward to putting some of your advice into action.

  • @susan53226
    @susan53226 Před měsícem +2

    Another great video. Thank you!

  • @TalesFromAbroad-SJ
    @TalesFromAbroad-SJ Před měsícem

    What a helpful video! It's great to learn about the common mistakes hikers make when using trekking poles. Your tips on correct gripping and positioning are really useful, and the benefits of using trekking poles are definitely something to consider. Thanks for sharing this valuable information, and also for the discount on the Saily eSim. Looking forward to more of your hiking tips!
    Cheers,
    Simon - Tales From Abroad

  • @WhyitJellyDonut
    @WhyitJellyDonut Před 2 dny

    Its interesting the sizing and the grip are stuff I learned from down hill skiing but apply with treking poles completely.

  • @urbanendi
    @urbanendi Před měsícem

    Great suggestions - gap filling for most. In additon, I think if you put too much weigth on the poles downwards, your sole will be too ligth and it feels like a slippy surface. So it needs to load your foot enough, avoiding injures.

  • @jo_ey
    @jo_ey Před měsícem

    Very good video. I’ve used them right and wrong. Never really knew what I was doing. But with this proper technique I’m sure it will improve my comfort and endurance.

  • @waterst9
    @waterst9 Před 8 dny

    I might add to this informative video a suggestion that novice trekking pole users purchase fingerless gloves as the skin in the palm can become inflamed. I use a pair of old cycling gloves to alleviate the wear and tare.

  • @TimvanderLeeuw
    @TimvanderLeeuw Před 28 dny

    A "Like" from me just for the beautiful shots of the Alpine country! ❤
    Thank you for the good tips on how to grab the trekking poles. I will be paying attention next time!

  • @ericquinn5172
    @ericquinn5172 Před 6 dny

    I've been putting my hand up through the strap for 20 years. In the video you can see how this puts a side load on the CMC joints at the base of the thumb. My cartilage is worn out and I'm experiencing painful arthritis. My hand specialist calls it skier's thumb. Now I just put my fingers and mid-hand through the straps. Wear and tear is hard to avoid in life...

  • @progreth
    @progreth Před měsícem

    Great tips! I see some of those mistakes regularly when people use the wrongly.
    Trekking poles help so much, specially when carrying an 11kg kid plus water and food up and down a montain 😅

  • @delavan9141
    @delavan9141 Před 10 dny

    A fine point I'd like to add is NOT to GRIP the pole grips. You'll tire your hands and wrists. Use the straps. Put most of your downward effort into the straps and use your thumbs and forefingers to maintain connection with the grips. Also, don't put thumbs through the straps, that way will allow you to put weight into the straps. For downhill, also lean into the straps after rotating your hands downward on the grips (so they're on the top side). Putting that kind of pressure into the palms will cause pain, palms aren't built to take that kind of pressure.

  • @Olympic_TryAthlete
    @Olympic_TryAthlete Před 19 dny

    I still use trekking poles, though I’m not sure I should be. Did a trip one year ago up Swamp Creek in the Cabinet Mountains and because I had left my trekking poles at home in Western Washington, had to do without. There were few smooth places in the trail and I figured I was going to have to be tediously cautious with every step. What I found, thought, was that instead of having my mind occupied with 4 points of contact, I now only had to focus on 2. I actually don’t remember missteps. When hiking with trekking poles, I seem to frequently roll my ankles or trip over rocks as I focus on where my trekking pole will touch the ground. Still have to watch for gravel slips, but even that seemed to be better.

  • @brianbailey7128
    @brianbailey7128 Před 6 dny

    Great info. Thanks for the content.

  • @alwayshiking_
    @alwayshiking_ Před 7 dny

    My 62 year old knees can't descend without moving my hips side to side as if I am creating a mini 'switchback' on the trail in descent. This pushes my weight vertical to some imagined horizontal plane and I use my poles to help stabilize my descent on that imagined plane. This isn't quite as slow as you would think, but it does decrease knee pain considerably at the day's end. Final advice: "Don't Fall". Yeah... "Don't Fall"...

  • @Obi-Wan_Pierogi
    @Obi-Wan_Pierogi Před měsícem

    I just bought hiking poles last week. I haven't had a chance to really test them, but I mostly got them for my hikes in Wales.
    I've also bookmarked Saily :D

  • @GrimmJaw496
    @GrimmJaw496 Před měsícem

    I use pacer poles and find they really help going up and down the trails and are comfortable to use. they are also strapless.

  • @dmn3773
    @dmn3773 Před 16 dny

    The small rubber feet (shaped like a boot) have some use for non-paved surfaces... If I know I am going to be doing some bigger swifter water crossing I will use these tips as they can give me a larger surface area of 'grip' while crossing the river.

  • @timmo971
    @timmo971 Před měsícem +7

    Y’all know that even IF you happened to put your hand thru the strap the wrong way, you can simply rotate the strap around right? All these CZcams bloggers saying how bad a thing is when really it’s not a massive deal

    • @karipintakivi9153
      @karipintakivi9153 Před 20 dny

      Just make sure the strap is flat between your palm and the grip. Does not happen automatically if you push your hand straight thru first and then rotate.

  • @andrewg.carvill4596
    @andrewg.carvill4596 Před 19 dny

    When I was young I used to think trekking poles were nothing but a fussy inconvenience. Now I'm 60 and I find them almost indispensable for hiking especially on the downhill gradient.

  • @ralfpeterek1040
    @ralfpeterek1040 Před měsícem +3

    There is actually a Left & Right pole. It’s determined using them such that your thumb rests on the lower of the straps at the pole.

    • @gscott5062
      @gscott5062 Před měsícem +1

      Correct. And to get the strap to lie smoothly around your hand without any twists (which may be uncomfortable), you might need to undo the buckle and rotate one part of the strap by 180 degrees.

    • @matt_w
      @matt_w Před měsícem

      If you remove the straps, you don't have to worry about handedness.

    • @karipintakivi9153
      @karipintakivi9153 Před 20 dny

      @@matt_w And lose 50% of the effectiveness of the poles. So? Besides it is not a big deal to have them in the "wrong" hand, slightly less ergonomic.

    • @matt_w
      @matt_w Před 20 dny

      @@karipintakivi9153 I know opinions are very divided on this, but getting rid of my straps made my poles way more effective for me. Instead of controlling how I hike, they are a tool to assist me. I can tuck them under my arm, switch them to one hand, use the lower grips for uphills, put my hands on the top to lean on for downhills, set them down to adjust my pack and pick them up easily, etc. The only think I lose is the marginal benefit of being able to "hang" on the straps and loosen my grip, which I barely notice. Definitely hike your own hike, but I'm a full on convert away from the tyranny of the pole straps :)

  • @proverbalizer
    @proverbalizer Před 19 dny

    1:40 ahh, the infamous "skier's thumb" ...this is part of the reason that some skier's don't like to use the pole straps at all (but if you do, then yes, definitely situate the starp correctly in your palm)
    2 other reasons are that if you are skiing and your pole gets caught in a tree the strap can yank on your arm and damage your shoulder, and if you ever get caught in an avalanche being stuck to your poles makes you more likely to get buried

    • @jimwing.2178
      @jimwing.2178 Před 5 dny

      Good ski poles have releasable straps that pull out of the poles before there is enough force to injure the skier.

  • @syindrome
    @syindrome Před měsícem +2

    Is there a reason for having you elbows at a 90 degree angle? I prefer super long poles, even on steep uphills. Feels like I can pull myself up with much more force, rather than having a shorter pole and push myself forward...

    • @stigcc
      @stigcc Před měsícem +1

      Nordic skiiers use very long poles. You might be right. I guess long poles will put even more strain on your arms.

  • @mothmanprophet11
    @mothmanprophet11 Před měsícem

    Very good info. Thank you. Found one here that I was doing wrong and I appreciate the correction.

  • @DPM-dp9on
    @DPM-dp9on Před měsícem

    Not a fan of trekking poles, usually only use them for water crossings or particularly bad terrain. I do use one for fly fishing to test water depth. However, a very informative and practical video as always. Thank you.

  • @craigbritton1089
    @craigbritton1089 Před měsícem

    Good video; I would just add that you should place the pole where it keeps you in best balance and where it will prevent a fall. And part of that is first pushing the pole straight towards the center of the earth. Then even with carbide tips on rock it is much less likely to skate off the rock.
    Then the length and placement advice can be best used .
    And on downhill; the body should almost always be nose over toes; and hiking poles help dial that in.
    And on cross country hillside traverses; one pole longer; and the other shorter is ideal.

  • @malcwhite
    @malcwhite Před 12 dny

    Looks like I'm doing everything properly.
    However I fell over once and got the pole trapped underneath my body and couldn't get out even though I was using the grip you recommended.

  • @GuilleComerma
    @GuilleComerma Před měsícem

    I've learned everything without knowing it. Thanks for your vid!

  • @Adrian-xh6up
    @Adrian-xh6up Před měsícem +1

    i don’t know. Not sure if the grab under actually makes any difference, that’s often repeated, could it be a myth? What i’m doing is trying to practice breaking fall with the sticks because there’s many new options for injury when under load.

    • @karipintakivi9153
      @karipintakivi9153 Před 20 dny

      Adrian, we who have been skiing X-country for almost 70 years, know. In primary school already we skied over 1000 km per winter. With the under and up strap wrap like instructed here there is practically no need to squeeze the grip at all, and there is a lot more freedom of movement and pole placement. And it is safer also.

  • @aok5298
    @aok5298 Před měsícem

    Great video, I consider myself a trekking pole ninja 😆 and can’t add too much more to your advice. Along with fending off wild animals, (which we don’t have too many of in New Zealand) they’re good for bush whacking through overgrown trails fending sharp branches or grass.
    I never use the straps except if on steeper terrain where losing a pole involves a climb down. By allowing the hand to grip the pole by the hand grip or below when ascending really steep, variable surface terrain. you can quickly slide hand up or down as required digging into the slope above.
    Yes, they are a knee saver! Another tip - if your'e heading out for a long and potentially physically taxing few days, take Paracetamol before, during and after the adventure 😃
    Great video - use the poles people!

    • @karipintakivi9153
      @karipintakivi9153 Před 20 dny

      With the correct strap use like instructed here all the weight is on the strap and you need not squeeze the grip at all. Also much better range of movement and pole placement.

  • @tomaszznamirowski6852
    @tomaszznamirowski6852 Před měsícem

    Use exactly the same poles. I never use straps as a precaution. I had some situations where a pole stuck in the rocks and was pulling me back and forcing me to fall. It's safer to let it go. And I have taped unused holes in the poles as the sound of wind was driving me mad all the time :)

  • @adityaparanjape5703
    @adityaparanjape5703 Před 18 dny

    Informative. One failure of pole I experienced is pole lower tube sticks inside mud and upper comes out , its pretty frustrating. Also I find there is only one hole in lower tube so my comfort height is not there. My height is 5feet 4 inch what as per you height of pole up & down the terrain

  • @telekigy
    @telekigy Před měsícem

    Thank you for the infos. Where was this filmed?

  • @gamalyelg
    @gamalyelg Před 20 dny

    Great video, thanks! You got yourself another subscriber ❤.
    Question: I usually position the tracking poles a little bit in front my feet and use the biceps to help pull me in/up, which helps a lot my knees (since I distribute the weight). Putting them kind of in my side and behind, as you mentioned, would add “impulse”, but is that really more efficient than pulling yourself up towards the tracking pole? I’m asking because when I do my way it literally looks like an extra help to pull me up.

  • @georgeghil7957
    @georgeghil7957 Před měsícem

    Oscar, another Great Video, Thank you very much!

  • @maineman0866
    @maineman0866 Před 5 dny

    Great video, Oscar. Do you have any recommendations for carrying the poles through airport security? Yes, it is best to pack them in checked luggage, but I had a recent knee injury, and security at Heathrow nearly confiscated them. They said the U.K. now has much stricter rules, and allowed me through but warned that since the poles might be used as weapons, not to bring them again. Any advice would be appreciated.

  • @joedale4344
    @joedale4344 Před 28 dny

    I thought I knew everything … good lesson Thank you

  • @TexTropicana
    @TexTropicana Před 16 dny

    Trekking poles usually slow down my normal walking pace.
    I usually only use poles when traversing up or downhill.

  • @demon_lover9139
    @demon_lover9139 Před měsícem

    I have that same ring! Got it off etsy a month ago.

  • @michael_budda
    @michael_budda Před měsícem +1

    I started to not even use the straps on my trekking pole, more than one occasion where the pole got stuck and if I was strapped in, either direction, I know my wrist would have been hurting!

    • @matt_w
      @matt_w Před měsícem +1

      Removing straps was the best thing I ever did for my poles.

    • @michael_budda
      @michael_budda Před měsícem +1

      @@matt_w probably an even better idea than not using them. I’ve even had the straps get stuck on branches when they are stowed away and not being used 🙄

  • @antoniodelrio1292
    @antoniodelrio1292 Před 23 dny

    Sorry if already asked but where exactly in central Italy? Thanks for the informative video.

  • @Peace-tk3gr
    @Peace-tk3gr Před 23 dny

    I'm 64 and seldom use a trekking pole. If I know it's muddy and downhill I use one. The part of the brain that adjusts to where the body is in time and space doesn't get used when you use a trekking pole.

  • @trailsandbeers
    @trailsandbeers Před měsícem

    I use my poles completely wrong; I removed the straps and I mostly use both poles together every 3rd to 5th step uphill and don't use them at all on the flat or downhill...
    works for me.

  • @richardblair919
    @richardblair919 Před měsícem

    Nice review of the basics.

  • @trytheoutdoors
    @trytheoutdoors Před měsícem

    Thank you for the advice.
    Would you please tell us the name of the sun hoody you are using?

  • @mblogler
    @mblogler Před měsícem

    Thoughts on the strapless poles by Urban Poling? I am very happy with my Activator2 poles. Very sturdy yet adjustable.

  • @HondoTrailside
    @HondoTrailside Před 14 dny

    I have to use poles because I smashed up a leg in a plane crash, and I have balance and other problems. But if I was still whole I would not rely on them. In most cases the pack and fit body is less weight than what people carry around their waist if they are not active. One estimate was 2 pound of body weight gain per year. So in a decade you would be at the food, water, and gear average for backpacking. Of course, people aren't going to lose the weight before the trip. Sometimes they will gain it on the tirp. But if you are slim and fit, I don't see the need for poles to save knees. The most important tips are to pick one's own pace, and this pretty much impossible if one starts out in groups, on tours. And the second thing is to ruthlessly reduce gear. I don't see most, non sponsored, and fit climbers using them, unless they have monster top heavy loads. I used to use a single walking stick for balance, and there was no need to place it with every step.
    One of the problems one sees in skiing and trekking is that hikers get off balance placing and leaning on poles. This is easy to beat, but a lot of people I see haven't beat it. So they are really burning up energy because they are not in good balance.

  • @PandaYoe
    @PandaYoe Před měsícem

    thank you!! really helped me
    😀

  • @martinep6293
    @martinep6293 Před 23 dny

    I do not have trecking poles. I make one with a decent tree branch a bit dry already.
    On easy terrain they slow me down. Over 3 mph they get in my legs/steps. Not a plus.
    But to slow you down is for me THE BIG benefit going downhill on steep/risky terrain. Assuming I pick the best spot to land my downhill foot, the last thing I need is added kinetic energy😂. And yes the downhill foot lands lighter too. Big plus.
    I am sure it helps knees going down with a pack long distances.
    I have not hiked the Grand Canyon rim to rim yet and together with microspikes (ice) I will absolutely take them.
    70 +yo zero knee issues (or any other). Quitting sugar 10 years ago also let me ditch the glasses I had been wearing all my life😂.
    It is not the calendar age, it is the healthspan!

  • @jurgluthi9568
    @jurgluthi9568 Před měsícem

    That was very good. Thank you

  • @gscott5062
    @gscott5062 Před měsícem

    Gran Sasso area, perhaps? (I was just cycling on the SP86 last October.)

  • @lsman38
    @lsman38 Před měsícem

    I disagree with the strap as if i go from top, i can go three positions with ease. And when i go lower position of pole, I feel the strap help me with support as I was climbing.