I Cheated to Enjoy Forza Motorsport!
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- čas přidán 26. 10. 2023
- Turns out the worst model in the game can look a little bit nicer... with some cheating!
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Quick tip for the afk leveling. You wanna rubber band the throttle. By default, the assist only does 80%. So you can save quite a lot of time overall while upgrading a car with the method.
I did this on my Xbox but it still timed out and I had to press a button.
@@legendarycheekymonkey do what he did with the thumbstick
That’s doesn’t work because it ends up sending the car off track because it starts overshooting corners because there’s too much power. Doing it on the straights is fair enough though
@@legendarycheekymonkey Press down on the D Pad to bring up all the telemetry data then press right until it gets to Friction and leave it like that. That'll stop you from having to press a button because you go AFK. idk why it's only that one that does it but it's only that one that does it.
The problem with the AFK driving mode tho is how unbelievably bad the AI is. If you don't set the setting to ghost backmarkers it will not pass them on smaller ovals like Eaglerock so it just rear ends them. Or it won't turn properly and will end up in the wall at the same point every lap, like out of the final turn on Eaglerock I was leveling up an NSX and it just catapulted into the wall at the exact same point. And both of those are because the AI hands down some of the worst I've seen in a racing game. Ever. Gran Turismo 3 and 4 on the PS2 had better race AI.
@@yumleadpaintchips2213 I'll definitely try that thanks but I don't have an issue with the AI as I run it in quick event, free drive so no other cars on track, it still levels up. Not sure it's the most efficient way but I've only had to press the brake every now and again to keep it going, otherwise it's been flawless doing that. Don't even need the TV on to do this way as when you press the brake it vibrates, if it doesn't vibrate, press A then brake again to make sure it kicked back in and it resumes! Would be great to not even have to press brake though.
You're right though the AI is a joke in this game. I've played dozens of racing games for as long as they've been around and this is genuinely the worst I've ever seen.
I’ve never given up on a forza game this fast honestly
5:59 the horde of outdated quality Forza models is swarming the track
1:37 the fact that Forza can’t distinguish a KRC Japan kit and a Car Modify Wonder kit is hilarious to me. Guess the S15 isn’t the only thing they got wrong
What
@@falcongamer58It's not a KRC kit.
same with the fd kit believe its tcp magic
I cannot look at that Silvia because of how garbage the model is. Regardless of the customisation.
I think the customization is the only reason they don't update the model. Or it's just lazyness
I haven't played the game don't think I want to seems like they have gone backwards
Pro tip: if you play gran tursmo 5 or 6 prior to your motersport playthrough. It numbs you to the issue.
Turn 10 is lazy
@@adamglover9927so don’t ? nobody cares fam
The windshield wipers have kata-galactic powers and brush away all ray-traced light and reflections with each wipe! 6:18
After the 1st couple of days playing I've stopped completely.
1:23 I think it's sad that this menu with this car looks like an upscaled PS2 game
To me, while at the moment it feels like something new and different, I think people will get very bored and frustrated more quickly. In their mind, they've added progression, but that progression never has an end point. There is absolutely no goal at the end of it all. They wanted a more "RPG" feel to it, but the problem is you don't have any more abilities / options after 3 years of playing than you did at 3 minutes?
You start off with slow cars; great, I can see that being a good idea, and you level up and can get faster and faster... nice, progression. Then you change car and the whole idea of progression resets and you start again. You're not progressing "yourself" and your ability to do more / buy more stuff, you're just stuck in an ever lasting doom loop of slow car, faster car, back to slow car. There will come a point where you no longer want to crawl around in slow cars, so you go off and drive race cars, which don't need to be upgraded or don't even have any upgrade options, then making the levelling system pointless. What's the point of a Level 50 race car with no upgrade options? In fact, if levelling up a race car is pointless as it can't be upgraded, why even waste those precious credits you've spent all this time acquiring in buying it in the first place?
I think maybe it would have worked better if you earned CP a bit slower, but they were universal, interchangeable between cars. This way, you're constantly racing, constantly earning more CP. Maybe upgrades on lower class cars could cost less CP, and they get more "expensive" as you go up in class. Right now, a brake upgrade on a mini costs the same as a brake upgrade on a Porsche. This system then gives you slower build up into faster cars, but doesn't punish you for trying out different cars. Even once you've got into the GT cars with no upgrade options, you're still earning points to spend on other stuff.
Conversely, the whole "progression" idea could have been following a more racing career type storyline, starting off in a Clio Cup series, then choosing if you want to go into open wheel, or GT, or endurance type career, slowly building up your rankings and getting more offers to drive faster and exotic cars. Instead, we just have a standard Forza aimless career, with the one enjoyable aspect of freedom removed...
All the content, the hundreds or cars etc feels almost pointless when the very idea of car collecting is completely disincentivized.
Thank you for pointing out the features that are missing. Still don't understand why they would get rid of them and not enough creators talking about it.
You don't even need to have the right stick pushed up to stop the game pausing, just open the telemetry window :)
And you don't even need to setup a race. Just start test drive.
Hey. How are liking the new feature Turn 10 added to saved online replays that makes the cars fly?
Awesome vid! Perfectly summarized 👌
Boi why does it look like a game from 2013 when your in the customization menu
I think that's offensive to 2013 games
For real though I think it's just a rush implementation of ray tracing. It wasn't available in the preview but is here and looks worse 🤔
@@BlackPanthaaI agree. They could have taken the time to launch the game properly, but their rushing has lead to huge amount bugs, car models looking washed out, inaccurate and recycled. Engines sound flat and compressed especially the A80 Supra and R34 Skyline. Few cars sound good I guess, but majority sounds horrible.
@@BlackPanthaa it's really just doesn't make sense they had a lot of time to Do everything like literally Gran turismo remakes all the car models and adds new tracks so I don't understand how they couldn't. It has been 8 games and they still use the same Car models 😐 and They had about the same amount of time to make new car models
@@rbxviperyt9454Which were built from the ground up...
@@kronosbalmond6472 The car Models? 😐 or the game
How can people possibly say this game is better than GT?
It's not at all, but gt doesn't want to give me a new worthwhile money races. Obviously that's just my opinion, but it is why I bought, and have been enjoying forza.
Turn10 lowered the required levels to get all the upgrades from 50 to 25, but in most cases, you won't have enough CPs at 25 to buy the upgrades you have earned. I have found you need 35-45 levels to upgrade the car enough to use the conversions, etc.
the problem with the s15 in forza is the roof line is TOO high. It makes the car look like its got a massive bubble top like a crown vic. IDK why they havent changed it. Its been like that since at least motorsport 2.
I cnt even make it pass the first builders cup because my game kept crashing after i finish the race then it doesnt save so i just deleted the game
Im surprised barely anyone has talked about how off the rx7 spirit r model looks
Keep it up ❤️
Very cool video black panthaa
"rewind baby" me every other lap
If Turn 10 don't want us doing this then all they need to do is remove the new upgrade system level entirely.
Ah yes, go back to no progression again. The thing we all complained about. Let’s tell them to remove it so they never try it again.
If we start speaking with cash we’re never going to get progression in Forza. The progression is good, it gives me reason to play the game. If you want a sandbox, play Horizon.
I’m getting really annoyed with people not understanding the difference between Campaign and Sandbox.
If they don’t want us doing this, then don’t make the assists so strong. They already sped-up the leveling and it’s way faster than shown here If you ACTUALLY play the game.
@@Pandize We had progression in Forza Motorsport games many years ago though. It just wasn't an arbitrary grind in order to increase playtime due to it being a Game Pass title.
This isn't what progression actually is. This isn't something anyone asked for. People wanted progression where you start with slower class cars and work your way up the career mode with classes becoming gradually faster and faster.
Also anyone that just says to play Horizon has very obviously never played any other Motorsport game.
Edit: Oh yeah, they did lower the level requirement for most things. But they still give you the exact same amount of car points as before meaning you still might not be able to do what you want until you AFK grind some more. So well done Forza for making that change be arguably worse than before.
@@ShadowRush2112That's not arguable worse but whatever.
@@ShadowRush2112play any other racing game ever made, it's quite simple. Bet money you complain about companies making the same thing over and over too 😮
@@metallicafan416 I'm playing Motorsport 4 as you're reading this message.
Hello Mr Panthaa .I have a question and anyone here can also answer it .I played the crew 2 on my old Xbox 1.i switched to pc last year and I am going to buy the crew motorfest.i was wondering if my cars that were saved on my Xbox will transfer onto my pc .the crew 2 on my Xbox came on a disc .I am just scared that it would not work and I lost all my progress worth off cars😟.thank you so much keep up the good work❤
6:41 If games like this with artificial gameplay elements exist in them because of services like Game Pass then I don't want services like that to exist. I want to play games to enjoy them, not to feel like I'm doing chores. I also don't like that features are getting removed from games (even basic features) and then they add them back in later especially if some game features should have been in the game since launch.
That bodykit needs to come to horizon
Hi pants! I would LOVE to use the cheat thing you were using in that video!
While the level to max is now 25 instead of 50, it is still a hassle to grind every car that I want
The idiots reduced level requirements for engine swap to 25, you still require same amount of car points to actually purchase all upgrades. Turn10 is run by monkeys tbh.
You can open the telemetry, actually. No holding the right stick up needed... The game will stay up all night...😎
you can use a rubber band/ elastic band to keep the control stick up.
Anyone else notice that blackpanthaa startin to look like broccoli, no offense haha 😅😂
Bruh HAHAHA
Turn on telemetry and you don't need to press any buttons or touch any sticks.
WHAT!? I'll try this tomorrow.
A top for grinding, either air or manually, pick a track with lots of corners, so far the best I’ve found is Suzuka.
I did enjoy this video. I know it mustve taken forever to have your car self drive itself in a circle. I’m in the same boat
Do a video on 2012 most wanted I wanna see you play that game again
What gpu did you get?
I know widebody is good in FM, but with only Rocket Bunny bodykit will just make no sense. I wanna they add Garage Mak bodykit
Is it really customization if theres only 2 options. The car will either look like THIS......or THAT. lame af we're on forza 13 and been asking for more customization since horizon 1 which has more customization than any current games and is 7 games ago
I also played for 7 hours... TODAY. I will play this game every day if they just give me loads of events and the old lobbies back. I like racing in the C, B and A hoppers online with cars I've built and tuned but I can't really do that anymore. What I've been doing is playing other games on my PC while I've had Forza playing itself on my Xbox just to level up my favourite cars. I have done a bunch of career events also today in a really nice Porsche but the AI is actually horrendous.
For me this game has always been about building cars and racing them but they somehow managed to make that tedious and took away the choice. You're forced to do these spotlight events in cars they choose, though I do like the Touring Car lobbies. If it stays the way it is the game will die off and that is sad because it drives so well and handles better than Forza ever has. Just give us a lobby for everything, all the divisions, all the classes and people will play this game. They can still do the spotlight stuff alongside.
Say hi BlackPanthaa
everyone complaining about the car leveling system... but what you don't realize is that ALL the people who play this game have to level their cars up as well. Its not just you...
Oh well then I guess the terrible design choice is ok because everyone has to go through it....wat?
@@vvoof2601 I personally don't think it's a terrible design choice. I think it's funny that people who buy a game to play the game are complaining that they have to play the game in order to unlock things within the game. Any greedy game dev will read that and see it as good reason to implement real money purchases to skip the "grind".
It's actually helpful to drive a car without the upgrades anyway to learn its handling, and unlocking the upgrades slowly helps learn how they affect the car, and by the time all of them are unlocked I can get maximum performance from the car and know how to drive it with no assists.
7 hours to get lvl 50 is a skill issue on computer's part.
Wow they took the upgrade system from Grid: Legends and made it worse, longer, and cheesable
Who ever created the Silvia is a donut 😐
Its from like 2008 💀
They did a good job considering they weren't scanned with laser and only used their eyes and photo references
But that was a good job from 2008 💀 they have the resources to redo the car, we can save it, we have the technology
@@falcongamer58Even games in 2000s had good car models than this new Forza💀
The best one was Fm4
@@kronosbalmond6472What are you waffling about fm4 having better models? They are the SAME models.
@@NitroGT78Yes. FM4 still looks great even to this day than the new Forza despite the same model.
ez fix for the afk screen.... just open telemetry and it wont ask if you still there until after you exit telemetry
Man, this silvia looks so trash. They got inaccurate...I mean "built from the ground up" car models with disappointing car sounds and graphics. I just don't know what else to say. This game is in shambles at this point.
I built a Silvia, and it's plain silly fast
Only needed level 25 for bodykit lol
TBH, while I know the car's model is really outdated, some of them, it's just isn't a problem anymore now...
To think that we need to level to customize a car, yeah that's more important problem than just a Silvia
no way I just witness the first aimbot In a racing game
I might be giving Turn 10 too much credit, but I don`t think that attempting to squeeze as much play time out of people as possible was their primary goal when they came up with the leveling stuff (and the fact they tweaked the unlocks on the 1st update plays into this, IMO), and I don`t really buy that they deliberately took out features for the sole purpose of adding them in later either.
As much as the "built from the found up" is basically a meme at this point, it`s not incorrect, and the new handling model, lighting and time of day stuff, and the fact they had to remake every single track is proof enough of that. I agree that there should`ve been more stuff in the game on launch, but we know that there aren`t more tracks because they`re being remade (though I imagine some tracks are actually basicly ready to go, and will be released over time to ensure a steady stream of content), and given the state the game came out in, my guess is that they spent most of the 6 years of development basicly redoing the whole engine and physics, with focus than going to the multi-player to make sure it worked well on launch (which to be fair I`ve mostly heard good things about, some connection issues aside), the machine learning Ai being priority no3 (which we know was being tuned right upto release, and still needs alot of Improving, since it`s sometimes great, and sometimes not), and actual single player content on launch being kind of an afterthought, that probably wasn`t given as much love and attention as it needed. I`d also wager that featured championships and new month tracks aside, the nexs few updates will be focused primarily on bug fixes and QOL improvements, and the introduction of new game modes (and other major bits of content) will take a back seat, until the game is functionally in a better place
As someone who also isn`t big on competition (especially if it`s multi-player), I`d say that the game still caters to me pretty well, thanks to the difficulty and challenge the grid options. The handling model itself is super satisfying IMO, and I enjoy driving cars in this game more than in FH5. In all honesty, the map in FH5 ism`t all that conducive to fun races, in part becaue the roads are still to wide and flat, and in part because there aren`t many proporly interesting driving roads.
I'm terms of the CarPG thing, I actually really like it, within the context of the builders cup, and especially since they`ve made the tweaks. As someone who played alot of Blackbox era NFS as a kid, I`e never really like how in forza games everything is unlocked, and there was never anything really stopping you from putting the best parts right away (in Horizon anyway, in FM7 there were championship restrictions to follow, which I liked). I like that with this system, once you chose a car for a championship you have to stick with the car until the end, and as you drive the car and slowly gain levels, you`be encouraged to apply upgrades based on the car`s shortcomings, and the limited CP forces you to pick and chose what you do, so that you can try to get the best out of the car, without just putting on every upgrade ever, so that you can actually feel the difference each mod makes. The system may not make the most sense in multi-player, but it adds to the buolder`s cup IMO... To bad there aren`t too many championships on launch
Horizon smoking motorsports like some opps honestly 😂
I really feel that racing games has just lost its creativity and charm these days. I want to enjoy cars too but I enjoyed cars the most in FM4 even tho I’m not a fan of track racing, I’ve always loved open world racing games but still FM4 felt so good and satisfying to play. Forza was one of my fav franchises but ig it’s time
Ooof. So you can't (currently) use a huge number of the cars in the career, grind time with level gates that don't even make sense and are locked to each car, multiple options/features removed from the game compared to the last...but hey, ray tracing! I thought 5 being a backwards step was bad, but 4 was so good it was almost inevitable. 7 was super microtransaction cheese at launch, but that was all patches out by the end and otherwise, was a solid entry. They literally could have upgraded 7, added a couple cars and new menus, and ta-daa, current gen game.
Must love Ubisoft
@@metallicafan416 meh, more saying that a motorsport 7.5 would have been a better product than what they "built from ground up".
My god it rains a lot in this game.
Man ever since the very first Forza Motorsport I've enjoyed buying a car, slapping parts on it and taking it to the Nurburgring. I do not want to grind out hours in cars I'm already familiar with just to unlock parts, I don't need to spend an hour racing a stock FC RX7 to learn the car when I've raced it across so many titles before this one.
I sincerely hope they do away with the carpg stuff, we don't get handed tonnes of credits as it is so progress can still be gatekept by money to provide incentive to race.
Than play every other racing game ever made, I like this system
Yes i agree the upgrade system sucks in the new fm, there is so many better ways they could do with proper progression
@@metallicafan416 you and about 5 other people
@@metallicafan416you like having all the high skill features locked behind an artificial grind because lazy developers wanted to hide the favt that Motorsport is the worst forza ever released.
I enjoy this game to a certain extent even if ive maxed out my online rating and cant enjoy solo cause the Ai is too slow but i will always AFK my cars, i like the system but its just too much.
it's Jo mama time lol
So I have this issue of upgrading my cars, then the game kicks me off.....does anyone else have this issue? This should be fixed already!! 🤦🏼♂️ Talking of The Crew Motorfest of course.
lol we was doing this on horizon years ago for money
7 total hours of playing FM!? well time to pump up those numbers Theo!
@6:16 *Theo laugh*
@9:54 *Theo angry*
Complains about progression and then cheats said progression 😂
1:29 why does your car look fake? that is not what it looks like art all on my game and I'm only on medium settings even low doesn't look that weird on my pc ?
I played twice as much)
I don't feel bad for "cheating" when in the start they give such crap to drive. Seriously the starting cars just spin out if you try to trail brake. I have to lightly tap them a few times to get around a corner. Its like all the cars are stock but no one would hit the track in stock car just off the lot.
Hey but it's on gamepass
I cheated too got 20 cars on level 50 😂
Forget Forza Motorfest what do you think about spiderman 2
Ew
Prettier version of a game design started on ps2
@@metallicafan416 this
Did he get his teeth fixed? Haven't watched in ages
Just activate the telemetrics with pad down, works better than holding a button
when a major youtuber has to choose lets say pity play on a new gen, long time spent, gRoUnD uP thing, game... it really says all. im honestly surprised the japanese didnt pick this up coz this is garbage.
Ah yes, bang on all the "opgrades"
I don't mind the career grind but they surely shot themselves in the foot when it comes to the free advertisement they usually get from big influencers making "build videos" right out of the gate. I've seen very little of that with this game so far. I'm sure they're feeling it and will change things it time. Might be too late already though.
My dad did this in gt sport :)
Shift 2 unleashed is a better forza motorsport than forza motorsport will ever be
Agreed 👍 Even shift had actual animation for the gearstick shift pattern
The v12 turbo 1242hp
Lol
For the auto driving you DON’T take the Le Mans Old circuit but the FULL CIRCUIT…!!!!!
Why leave out the chicane’s and leave extra points on the table….!!!!!!!!???????
Take the full circuit….!!!!!!
I probably have more hours than you dude.
Body kits um rear wheels 😂😂😂😂
The upgrade system in this game is hateful. They have created a game where the most effective way to level the car. Is to not play the game 🤣🤦
I also found that if you open up the telemetry. It doesn't prompt you for a button press every 15 mins..
I used to play gran turismo on the ps4 it was the best game ever
Asseto Corsa is still king
Yep, can't wait to see what AC2 has in store
Are you using cheat codes or a cheat code device?
Ah, good old MIXER times. Good old Horizon 4, I love its seasons so much (forever loving the Winter, man. It was sooo good). So many pleasant memories there...
You know, no matter ray tracing or not, the game's car paint materials are just that - eww, atrocious, ugly, dull, and plain looking. The cars look worse than in Horizon games, in FM23 they look like they are made of cheap plastic. That's just wow, I can't help myself but wonder was all the 'BFTGU' (Built From The Ground Up) fluff worth it when they ended up with the game looking that much ugly even with ray tracing enabled. The FH5 lighting blows FM23 out of the water in terms of lighting in general, despite FH5 never really had that much of a (marketing) 'focus' on its super-extreme-OMG-wearesoproudofourselves-weworkedsohardman visuals like FM23 did.
Oh, and btw I'm so tired of their progression crap that somehow tainted even the offline Quick Play. For all my years behind the racing wheel I don't think they're in the position to even ask me to grind creds and stuff, not even allowing me to choose the car color (for a car that I don't own yet) in a Quick Race, dang it. I don't care what others might tell, for a Quick Race (!) I should have the access to all the colors from the get-go fgs (and not just colors but also visual upgrades and stuff!) In Quick Play I race for fun, and not to compete, sheesh.
My cheese works better just run up and down le mans old 50x both ways and that's lvl 50 after you hit the last corner on the straight 😂😂😂😂😂
Not cheating if it’s in the game it’s like have abs on in a car is that cheating
I didnt have the best cars in the game though
Evo 🔥🔥🔥
You should just stick to Horizon if you want a racing sandbox game. Complaining about having to race in a racing game is wild to me. Obviously your only interest in Forza is to create content and jump on the bash bandwagon. The gameplay IS the competition, the racing.. not the 500+ cars or how many body kits there are.
All these youtubers bashing the game and dont even play it. Devs making changes based on what they are saying yet the real problems being voiced by the actual players are being overlooked. Hey great job on your content though.
So dissatisfied and disappointed in this game, it looks like a last gen car, graphics are average at best, and it just feels like a 10 yr old game, it looks bad.
2000 era money/level farm guide be like play "n" or "m" race, that give you a lot of experience or money
2023 money /level farm enable autopilot with all assist leave console, do stuff, back whenever you want.
I see
Watch these not be in horizon 6.
🚀🚀
Then maybe stick to sand box games if your just those type of people that cba is putting effort in
The silvia from nfs pro street looks better 🤣
It’s funny to see people complain about stuff not being in fm8 despite there being 2 different studios working on different games
Then even compare it to FM7, still a downgrade
How can people enjoy this game with how pathetically broken the base game is and how cancerous online is?? this game is an utter money grabbing joke.
Rivals and it's still just as addictive now as it was 5 months ago.
Fm is overrated people can have fun with it decent sounds good graphics and physics that’s better then most games recently
Use me as a “I’m already fed up with this game” button