What if Ray Allen missed The Shot? [LEBRON IS SCREWED]
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- čas přidán 30. 05. 2024
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NBA "What If's" are fun but the most interesting one in recent history might be the Ray Allen Shot in 2013. If the Heat guard misses that epic three the course of NBA history changes WAY MORE than most people realize.
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Tim Duncan really is slept on as one of the best of all time… hardly ever mentioned considering how much he achieved
He's top 6 of all time in my book.
He's top 5
He's interchangeable with Kobe for 6th.
He's better than Kobe in my opinion. Which nowadays u would be hated when u say that😌
Arguably the greatest PF of all time. Mr. Big Fundamental is really slept on by many. Like you said his achievements and accolades are overlooked. The man deserves his flowers
Wouldnt want to be around First Take if this actually happened lol
The chances of Kawhi (an 86% free throw shooter missing one of the 2 free throws) to set up Allen's shot in the first place are miniscule.
same with pg you have to learn nba players are not perfect
as what we call "fate"
Lots of it was at stake. So the pressure did its thing.
Ofc Kawhi redeemed himself big time wit that famous shot so nobody even remembers that missed crucual free throw
Also Manu Ginobilli missed a free throw as well, if both make both their free throws the score would’ve been 97-92 before Ray Allen makes a 3 that WOULDVE made it 97-95 but instead it was to tie because Kawhi and Manu split both of their free throws earlier.
I Remember that play like it was yesterday, I thought it was over and the Spurs were going to win. the Heat fans were leaving the building. Lebron took that 3 and missed, but was huge was Chris Bosh getting that rebound and got the ball to Ray Allen in the corner where Allen practices that shot all the time. When I saw the ball come out of Ray Allen's hands I knew it was going in, it looked perfect and the rest is history. Great Video Casey... I love you did this video. Perfect timing Casey.
The real what if is, what if Kawhi didn't miss those freethrows that would give them a 4 point lead
Instead of imagine is Ray made the shot imagine is Kawhi just made the free throw
ot heat wins. remember the spurs were old apart from kawhi. kawhi didnt even lock lebron down he just made lebron get annoyed and played excellent defence. locked =/ guarded very well
Polar bears are dying from melting ice caps.
Espn be like so how does this affect Lebrons legacy?
When mj was around mj popularity didn't leave room for people to be concerned by this kind of topic
LeBron James isn't as impactful to the world as mj was
@@tpsam yet y'all talks more about LeBron than MJ😂 LeBron was impactful too...maybe not just as much as Jordan coz Jordan set his legacy first b4 lebron.
We would look back 30years from now and talk the same about LeBron just like how we talk about Jordan. There's always nostalgia bias ofcourse but just like I said 30 years from now? Maybe we're talking about other new players more but still say lebron is better. Thats always how it works
The difference is that if Kerr and Paxson missed, the Bulls get a game 7. If Allen misses, the series is over.
Seriously, thank you for explaining how LeBron lead the heat back in game 6. A lot of people look at the beginning of the ray allen play where he missed a 3 and say he choked the whole 4th and was bailed out by ray.
"Duncan Spurs do not blow double digit 4th quarter leads"
Tracy McGrady: 👀
Because Ray saved him from an Elimination game, unlike MJs 😂😂
Kukoc and Kerr both saved MJ. You're a dummy
I love sports "What if" you could do more of these.I love them ❤
Man those steps back by Ray Allen are truly beautiful. Exactly where he needs to bee without looking. Amazing
“The Spurs wouldn’t have been motivated to win in 2014”s
I didn’t realize the Spurs wanted Miami to win any of those finals at all
people always say that Allen saved Miami when LeBron went god mode in the 4th and made it close to where Allen had a chance of tying it, without LeBron we wouldn't have even been in a situation to tie the game
Unfortunately people only remember the last moment, not the moments building up to it… it’s why the LeBron narrative about him being unsuccessful in the finals is so so annoying. The only reason he’s lost so many times in the finals is because he carried poor teams there time after time. Other players wouldn’t have come near and so wouldn’t have had the opportunity….
@@jtfc7286 also the kyrie saved bron narrative back in 2016
@@jtfc7286 he carried miami to the finals 4 times, was that a poor team? Then why they called it the big 3? Were irving, k, love, Kyle kolver, and lebron a poor team? He couldnt beat the warriors in 2015 without them, but beat the warriors in 2016 when Irving and love were healthy, so who carried who?.
@@alfonsoterrero5182 Miami I’d different and I think we all know that. But with the Cavs, of cours they weren’t bad, but there’s no way they’re making the finals without LeBron and that’s the point people ignore. Of course he needs team mates to help, who doesn’t? Jordon didn’t do it all on his own did he and why would he ?
Yeah
I really don’t know why people say ray allen saved lebron’s legacy, when lebron was the reason why they came back in that game
Thank you
Lol there haters and try to discredit bron. He dropped 16 points in the 4th when the spurs had the lead. Without that this wouldnt have happen or the heat winning the series
Because Ray Allen saved that game. Bron is Bron, but he missed that last shot. If Bosh doesn't rebound, or Ray Allen misses that shot, no one remembers his performance.
Im a Miami native and I remember my heart sank on Bron's miss only to be defibrillated seconds later by Black Jesus himself. It was the most shocking moment of my life as a Heat fan. The team got it done, and LeBron led the effort, but, at the end of the day Ray was the one who hit the dagger. People say he saved the game, because he did.
Well if Allen did not made the shot then that finals loss will tarnish Lebron's legacy as stated by AM's what if. It also does not matter if Lebron led the late comeback but still lost in the end.
@@goose0078 Well but as Ray Allen said LeBron saved the Heat because without him they would've lost the game earlier.
Great job!
I think Kyrie Irving’s 3 to complete the 3-1 comeback was more crucial, would have been one more loss for lebron also, yet a 3-1 comeback is far more historic, and Curry’s legacy being greater would have been the other half of the video, huge what if ‼️
I mean there's still a lot of time maybe that's why. And we are not even sure if GSW would score in that upcoming possesion if Kyrie missed considering how the Cavs playing great defense.
Ray Allen's 3 was greater
nah, lebron scored after kyrie's shot so the cavs woulda won anyway
we actually dont know since the score was tied but if im not a lebron fan i would lean towards gsw but too bad im a dedicated lebron fan so the score was 89-89 we dk
Steph would’ve completed the perfect season
73-9
50-40-90 while being the Scoring champ
Unanimous MVP
And the chip
If lebron had made that 3, it would’ve been the most clutch finals performance of all time. He had 16 points in the 4th and hit a 3 the play right before. Imagine hitting back to back 3s 19 points in the 4th in an elimination game for your season. Lebron was the reason they won that game Allen’s shot was a product of everything he did
Tim Duncan is underrated
What if KD's feet were behind the line vs Bucks in game 7 2021 East Semis?
If Derek White did not score in game 6 against Miami, (2023) everyone will be sure that the Boston will be in the finales
That tweet stood out to me as well, but mostly for the Duncan thing. So much is made of Jordans 6-0 record, but, Duncan is less than a shot clock away of replicating that feat. Which is kinda nuts considering he's rarely talked about as a goat candidate. I love Kobe, but Duncan had the greater career. Bron is the better player, but, Duncan wins that 6th ring and I think it cements his as the greatest overall career since Kareem. A top 4-5 player all time ahead of LeBron.. at least debatably.
Yo Casey you should do more what-if videos and create some interesting takes. Suggestion: What if the Thunder kept their big 3 of Durant, Harden and Westbrook?
Harden would’ve never been scoring champ if he never left
James Harden is an MVP and was in the top 3 in voting in 5 other years. How is he only 8th in this list? Argue all you want about his playoff short comings but it’s not like Drexler was much better. The ring he won was more on the Dream. You can even argue Glide’s addition to the team hurt them more than helped as they only finished 6th in the regular season after they traded for him at the start. AI made it to 1 Finals, where he won 1 game. Well, Harden was 1 game away from making it to the Finals, and if Paul didn’t get injured, who knows? I watched peak Glide and peak Answer when I was in High School and College so my opinion isn’t based off record books. Peak Beard is more dominant than either of them ever were and his career isn’t over yet but I would already rank him ahead of any other shooting guard not named Air or Mamba. But Flash fans can always argue their case and I won’t disagree with them. Never got to watch The Logo so I won’t hate on their case either.
What if Kyrie and Love had not gotten injured and been able to play in the finals against the warriors ?
Warriors win if Draymond isn't suspended
You didnt pop the video about colin at the end. Could u please do it
God gives hater so much mercy for letting Lebron lost in several finals without reasonable help. Can't imagine how haters sound if LBJ got all championships. So "if" is just for fun.
#1 MJ
#2 Kobe
#3 Dwade
#4 harden
#5 klay don’t @ me
#6 AI
#7 Jerry
#8 Joe dumars
#9 ray allen
#10 clyde
Man these hypothetical videos. Smh. If, Ifs and buts were candy and nuts, it'll be Christmas everyday.
*02:53 Game 7 also took place in Miami. This was the last 2-3-2 Finals.
Bro really has klay over harden 😂
Thank God the picture frame is back! Those TVs give you a headache
I think Miami could've won in 14 cuz SA would not have the motivation in 14 and LeBron would be pissed and have a 2012 playoff run
Thats a good point ngl. Haters pointing out brons teammates clutch shots and not mjs.
5:20 Ain’t no way Klay Thompson over James harden
I’m taking klay
Klay all day and he's got the rings to prove it
Imagine picking Klay Thompson a guy who averaged 19.5 points in his career and who’s highest career average for points in a season is 22.3. Over James Harden who is a scoring champ and a mvp and who averaged 36 points in a season who averaged 25 points for his career just because he’s a better shooter and has more rings
@@kendrickgabriel2858 klays also a better defender and more reliable in the playoffs but hey
@@kendrickgabriel2858 is ppg all you look at tho
Good topic
Well comparing the situation of 2013 to 1993 is way different, The Heat facing elimation, if Allen miss the shot, they're done, but for the Chicago Bulls, if Paxon misses ,there will be a game 7
No one talks about how kawhi bottled it
everyone be sleepin on Chris Bosh rebound and pass to allen
What if Kevin Love & Kyrie Irving weren’t hurt in the 2015 finals and played against the warriors ?
that could also be the 1st back to back by the Spurs
Well I doubt the Spurs win 2014 if they win 2013, they simply went into that second season taking it personally, could they make the finals? Sure, but I think the Heat take it personally at that point
Heat would've won in 2014 if it wasnt for bron playing horrible while paddling his stats during blowout situations and the offense around him didn't give Bosh more touches and the others as well
paxon had that shot because they doubled MJ in the backcourt; steve kerr made that shot via an assist from MJ, did lebron have THAT assist to win a championship? he had a playoff pass to ray that allen converted, what else? bron always been praised for making 'the right play' but has he ever made one WHEN IT MATTERED THE MOST? he gave kyrie the ball and irving created the shot not lebron, even kobe had an assist in the finals to win it all
Out of this world shot! 🔫
people casually ignoring that Lebron made a clutch 3 to cut it to two and Kawhi choked a free throw
i just realized mcgrady WOULD have a ring
2:52 they actually played the game 7 in Miami
Its like saying what if kyrie and kevin love didnt get injured in 2015 or KD didnt go to warriors, if shaq and kobe stayed together or pippen didnt get drafted by bulls?
I don't think Allen saved LBJ's legacy like people said, because at the end of the day if they lost people would realize that Spurs was one of the best teams ever and I think Miami probably wins 2014 if they lost in 2013,
JAMES HARDEN AT 8TH AINT NO FUCKING WAY 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nigga put Klay over Harden💀💀💀
Was this inspired by the Marvel "What If" series?
I realize the 3-0 disparity in chips but putting Klay over Harden all time is hailrious. Klay was the 3rd or 4th best player on those champiosnhips teams.
I agree. I definitely rank James Harden ahead of Klay Thompson all time.
ESPN should do a What If...like Marvel is doing lol
Duncan and Kobe are the most disrespected legends ever
Skip would have called Lebron a bust
The 2014 San Antonio Spurs title was clinic in pure basketball. They dismantled the heat in every facet. That 2014 gets looked over too often. If you’re a coach of children your showing the spurs finals 2014 finals matches. Sheer pure basketball. It ended the heat and really tarnished lbj legacy. MJ is still goat and lbj not far off.
FYI TD overlooked for his greatness too often as well.
Me being a Spurs fan myself, I agree Cameron. I was pissed off about what happened in 2013 but 2014 kinda made up for it. I have Tim Duncan top 6 of all time on my personal list.
He talking marvel what if series
If he misses the shot I don't buy airfare the next morning and get to see my Heat win game 7 in person.
I love that AM calls out lebron haters
Hi big fun of Giannis since 2013...can ask a question?75th Anniversary you do a video.....because Giannis is 50% in and 50% out....why?
I'm pretty sure the heat would have won in 2014 if they didn't win in 2013
You’re right their not equal……total career Duncan had more help……Kobe had smush and kwame in his prime
What if LeBron didn't miss the shot and Ray Allen didn't have to shoot it after the rebound?
On a parallel universe it actually happens
React to it where there's no video of pop popping out
Kid you not: Tracy McGrady would had got a ring on the final games of his career, while Juwan Howard and Rashard Lewis would end their careers Untitled. Irrelevant in terms of historical impact, but for them personally, it's huge.
What if what if what if
Both John Paxson and Steve Kerr were wide open for their shots.
If the heat defeated Mavericks in 2011, they could've the beat 3peat of all time
I also thought Ginobilie missed clutch free throws
Miami won game 7 in Miami not in San Antonio.
I guess we'll never know
Lets go Heat 🔥
Kyrie and Ray Allen saved Bron's legacy
No he didn’t
Am hoops is so underrated
yo what happened to your hair?
Bruh his hair
On that all time sg list id swap Klay and George Gervin
Tbf, the amount of pressure on LeBron and hate he was getting, I’m glad they won that, and hey the Spurs still get their next ring so everyone is happy and the haters stay hating.
biggest improvement is am hoops hairline
fr the buzz cut was not a good choice
Why was Tim Duncan not playing in those final minutes?
The Heat went small & his lateral quickness was never great enough to keep up with shooters.
5:15 he left out T-Mac
Jaylen Brown next video A.M Hoops 🙏🙏🙏
I think it would be cool if you did a video on where Steph Curry would rank all time if he won another ring.
I actually think Steph will be the 4th all time if so
He’d prove that he can win without amazing teammates
He’d have more rings than bron and only one behind MJ
@@BaronKing292 if he won another ring in 2024 he would have to be better then lebron right ? one of me lebrons main point for him being the goat is his longevity but steph winning at 37 would be unmatched. along with 5 rings and 3 finals mvps. he would have to be second or 3rd best but he would’ve passed lebron
@@Greepled so it’s highly debatable
My top 5 players ever right now is
1 MJ
2 LeBron
3 Kobe
4 Kareem
5 Curry
But if he won I think it would be different
1. Curry
2. Curry
3 Kobe
4 LeBron
5 Kareem
I know what your thinking. “LeBron dropping two” yes cause Curry would have more rings and that would prove that leBron having longevity is overrated. And curry is already debatable
@@BaronKing292 do you mean mj at 1 or 2?
Come on man that's like asking ," what if the sky was red". Jeez
You can see your bias for the Spurs
Well lehron almost got swept next year when kawhi developed
D wade has 3 rings* not 2.
By some of this logic u should add Robert horry. He got more than any of them
spurs got 3 peat if rey allen missed the shot
I love am hoops and all but I kinda think he has a biases for San Antonio just saying
Blaming somebody cause there in LA is insane lol
The only reason steph wasnt the most crucial player in those two chips is cuz they had to give KD the ball or wasnt gonna work so steph had to sacrifice to win
True but they knew that they needed KD to beat the full Cleveland team in 2017. They mostly beat them in 2015 because Kyrie and Kevin Love were out, so LeBron didnt have his whole team. They knew that in order to beat his full team they needed someone to cancel put what LeBron brings to the table, bc they had Steph for Kyrie, Draymond for K Love and Klay as their third man
@@justinhussain7110 bruh they almost gentleman’s sweep them the year before but kyrie hits a prayer of a 3 and they were less stacked the following year. Have you seen lebrons finals record? 4-6 isnt too good, he doesnt make his team that much better like steph
I admit, it would hurt LeBron’s legacy if Ray Allen missed it BUT HE DIDNT SO GET OVER IT hahahaha good point
Lebron isn't number 2-3 all time, people have been bamboozled..his numbers for 4th quarters in clutch playoff mins, playoffs in general don't say as such..and the talent he's played with was high. MJ's numbers in those critical moments, as well as a whole slew of players are ahead by a pretty good margin.
Then he would had been 3-7 in the finals. I thought 2011 was bad.
Duncan would replace lebron in the top 5 but will be number 5 unlike lebron who is my number 3 all time while duncan is 7th
Finnaly you made sense! Duncan over kobe any time
I like how you didnt mention lebron choke job in last 2 mins with 3 turnovers and missing 3 to tie the game but ok
curry has 4 rings now