Joe Orton, A Genius Like Us (Part 1 of 8)

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  • čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
  • "Arena" - A Genius Like Us: A Portrait of Joe Orton. Directed by Pamela Brighton and Nigel Williams.
    ... Originally broadcast on 9 November 1982, on BBC 2.
    ... Portrait of playwright Joe Orton, murdered by his lover Kenneth Halliwell at the peak of his career in 1967.
    ... Posted the whole documentary, by request. ;-)
    ... In 8 parts, unfortunately.

Komentáře • 25

  • @DaveSCameron
    @DaveSCameron Před rokem

    I am so glad to have discovered Joe Orton and his seminal almost essential English character, such a tragedy we never saw his talent evolve. My nephew attended his partner /killers grammar school here on the Wirral and I still can't get on a bus without Orton entering my mind. 👍 🙏 ❤

  • @alexcampion2461
    @alexcampion2461 Před 9 lety +4

    anyone else giggling about joe's neighbour- 'I says, "he's had a hit," he says, "he has-he's dead."' right out of one of his plays.

  • @FriedEggsWithChips
    @FriedEggsWithChips Před 11 lety +2

    Sure - if you can forget the fact that one of them murdered Joe Orton by bludgeoning him to death - his longtime friend and lover, too!

  • @Thoughtcat
    @Thoughtcat Před 7 lety +3

    Never seen this before, thanks for posting. Where are parts 2 and 3? Related videos seem to go straight to part 4.

  • @DaveSCameron
    @DaveSCameron Před rokem

    Watched Loot with Sharon from Eastenders starring back in the 1990s at the Norwich theatre and despite the company I laughed my arse off, can't encourage people to check out Joe Orton enough, an English jewel. 🙏📚☘️❤️

  • @deliadavidson6186
    @deliadavidson6186 Před 12 lety +3

    joe, was brilliant, yes he had many faults,like all of us. an englsh eccentric,gone but never forgotten, who ever mentions halliwell.

  • @mooneepondskid
    @mooneepondskid Před 14 lety +1

    Claustraphobia and paranoia can be deadly partners.

  • @kikeheebchinkjigaboo6631
    @kikeheebchinkjigaboo6631 Před 6 lety +1

    I want to know if there’s a book on the art of halliway

  • @schizoidman601
    @schizoidman601 Před 11 lety

    I spent an afternoon in Joe and Ken's flat, about 15 years ago, when it was vacant. I filmed my visit, and at one point, delivered a piece to camera, sitting on a day bed, that was in the same position that Joe's bed had been in 1967. I heard my camera making some strange noises. On watching the film back, later, a milky-white "cloud" appeared on the film, and the noise that I'd heard from my camera, was its auto-focus, trying to focus on me, through whatever it was that it had recorded.

  • @minekara6407
    @minekara6407 Před 2 lety +3

    BBC is so rubbish nowadays..... Although I was very young....I always enjoyed the Arena programmes

  • @johnbarry1965
    @johnbarry1965 Před 12 lety +1

    @bensimps123 Everytime i see John Lahr i always think "Pud em up,Pud em up"!!!!!

  • @matthewrothenberg8661
    @matthewrothenberg8661 Před 11 lety

    Huh. I read the Lahr biography and found it acutely aware of homophobia, class prejudice, and the complexity of Halliwell's and Orton's emotional relationship. I am a straight U.S. citizen and may have missed the false notes that disturb you ... But the pressures and dynamics you describe were manifest to me via Lahr's writing.

  • @matthewrothenberg8661
    @matthewrothenberg8661 Před 11 lety +2

    Halliwell is certainly a tragic figure. I've never read anything that makes me think he was a particularly nice man, either ... Halliwell's life seems like a profoundly sad journey: wishing to be extraordinary but missing (perhaps by just a hair) the talent or motivation to achieve it. You might not like Orton's plays (I do) or his behavior (I don't, either) ... But he did actually complete a lot of work during his short life.

  • @matthewrothenberg8661
    @matthewrothenberg8661 Před 11 lety

    Shyamini1000: It sounds like you may have personal history with these men. I don't. I read Joe Orton's collected work many years ago without knowing the back story, and I found him absolutely brilliant. I still do. Reading biographies, I don't think he was a nice person ... But it sounds like you're juxtaposing animosity toward the guy with your assessment of his work, which this disinterested spectator finds spectacular.

  • @Sol-Cutta
    @Sol-Cutta Před rokem

    Where's part 8 for fucks sake xx🙉🙊🙈

  • @bensimps123
    @bensimps123 Před 12 lety

    thought lahr said he didnt want to go in there flat? then he's sat in there

  • @EuphemiaGrubb
    @EuphemiaGrubb Před 2 lety

    I thought it was my imagination that John Lahr presented like a major tosser in various docs I have watched about Orton & Halliwell. However, no. Lahr is indeed lacking in empathy and imagination as a 'I'll just jump on successful peoples bandwagons writer' He is also devoid of any understanding about this couples relationship.

  • @johnbarry1965
    @johnbarry1965 Před 12 lety +1

    Orton was the 1960's Sex Pistols!!!!!

  • @hippobitch
    @hippobitch Před 13 lety +1

    Coolest gays ever!!!!!

  • @edmund184
    @edmund184 Před 11 lety

    maybe, but they did end up dead! Rather crass statement.