I Tried Stealth Camping
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2024
- Join me for a cheeky stealth camp! After my original plans were foiled by a full night of rain and thunderstorms, I retreated to a safer spot for an overnight wild camp.
After finding a spot I pitched my Wild Country Helm 1 tent, and pondered a few key camping questions. Do you even need a footprint for your tent? What is stealth camping? Why do people camp in strange place like roundabouts, motorway verges, and under bridges?
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Check it out, and I’ll see you down in the comments!
Thanks for watching! Ben 🤓
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The advantage of stealth camping is that it increases your available camping locations. If you arrive late and leave early, many urban locations become possible.
the holes are for the clamp that they used to load the blocks or move them around
I was about to comment this, it's like a iron pair of large calipers, they used them to move the stones. (child of an amateur geologist who dragged me around quarries as a young kid! There are photos of me climbing steep inclines before I could walk...)
To me stealth camping and wild camping are one in the same thing, but I think a lot of the so called internet stealth camping is associated with van camping. As far as small tent and bivi camping on land where you have no permission, that is wild camping with a bit of stealth thrown in. This is to ensure that not only do you not get caught by the land owner but that they do not know that you were even there. It is important that you do not bring attention to yourself so camp fires are a definitely not required, neither is a complicated menu for your supper! Go in under dusk and leave at dawn, leaving no trace! These are the important rules!
This is why I've now adopted an alcohol stove. Quiet, cos my Pocket Rocket would wake up the entire neighbourhood.
Stealth Camping:
If I want to do small tours in the vicinity here, I really have to hide. But that works pretty well - if you know how and where.
I would never choose a place like the one you show in this video - nice as it is. There you are like on a presentation plate.
On high ground you can be out of sight as the path goes along the bottom. In a swale you can literally be "overlooked".
But you also have to behave inconspicuously (optically and acoustically). No fire and nothing to cook or even grill that could be smelled from afar.
Tobacco smoke can also be telltale...
This "hiding" is actually the part I like the least, because you're always a bit tense about being discovered.
Even where it's allowed, I like "stealth camping" - but then just to not stand out in nature and to blend in with the environment.
I enjoy that very much and I can sometimes be happy that I observe animals very closely because they only discover me late.
Why are you always a bit tense about being discovered? Who are you hiding from? If you're on land where you shouldn't be and are discovered what's the threat? Chances are you will be asked to move on.
Regards footprints etc, I was taught by my father to use something merely to keep the bottom of your sewn-in groundsheet clean, so when you pack your tent away, the groundsheet doesn't dirty or spoil your inner. Plus the added protection of course. I use one of those blue tarp type things (albeit in a como colour) cut to shape, reasonably waterproof and strong and, also cheap.
I think the holes are for putting in Lewis pins to move the stones. I could be wrong though 20:49
No idea what a Lewis pin is but my first thought was that they were used by some sort of lifting device. Now I have to research Lewis pins. 😅
@@awatt while your on Google, I think if it was a row of holes it would be for plugs and feathers lol.
Lifting or holes for explosives??
I use a footprint - always the same, a piece of Tyvek. Very lightweight and so cheap as not to worry about it. I find it works perfectly for me. If you chuck it in the washing machine it softens up nicely.
I use a sheet of Polycro, sold as temporary window 'double glazing'. Weighs nothing and really tough
@@PurpleBurglaralarm ghetto goretex …… brilliant. 😂
Moaning outdoors 😂 classic, great video as always, lovely camping spot to 👍
I love your dry sense of humour so much, you just really tickle me 😂 'turn up and dance about or whatever it is they do' and 'I'll just flying scissorkick them off the edge' has me in stitches! 😂😂
Thanks 😆👍
Glad you survived and were not sought out and summarisly executed.
Thanks for your common sense around thus stealth camping crap
I'm just here for the comments from all the 'stealth' campers 😜
You won’t see them. They’re stealth innit.
@@DaleyOutdoors 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I've never stealth camped before so I don't know why they would do it. When I camp I enjoy peace and quiet. If I use a footprint I make it from cheap painter's cloth.
When's the next camp together coming lads!? 🤞🤣
@@jenstone9308 Big G ain’t got time for me anymore 😭
Thanks for another. Great upload. The holes are drilled into the rock at the quarry. They are either split by hand with a wedge or more commonly now, filled with a small explosive charge and the shock will split a large quarry face into smaller blocks. Look to see if any have spit drill holes on th side. THU
The stealth camping as you have described is pretty much one step away from being homeless.
I hate the term stealth camping and the same for wild camping.
I spend alot of time camping out in public/private woodland and land, and just consider it to be camping and nothing more.
The holes in the rock are where the would’ve placed the lifting cantilever calipers back in the day. Just to give it a bit of purchase. If you look at many of the old railway bridges and you inspect the stone, you can still see the same hole on the dressed stone.
Really enjoyed that Ben, I do like it when you do the slightly longer vids, as for roundabouts and bridges it makes me laugh when they say stuff like ..just waiting for a break in the traffic then run across shouting I don't think I got seen ...honestly passing traffic aren't gonna be calling 999 and reporting they've seen some bloke crossing the road with a backpack on !!! Also when they think they have to be so covert under a bridge or on a roundabout, mate no ones arsed they'll just think your a homeless person, there's thousands of those unfortunately all over the UK, we have them living under most bridges and you know what everyone just leaves them alone, each to their own but not my thing, though I do watch a few 😂😂
I use a cheap tarp as a footprint, - less than a tenner.. I had the Helm 2 and it fitted that perfectly.
Love seeing other people enjoying the outdoors.
Don't know about stealth camping lol I'm the guy you will drive past 6ft off the side of a road in coniston. Over 30 yrs just pitching up anywhere and I've never had a problem.
I love talking to the rangers in the peaks when I camp a great bunch of people.
Where i live all forests are public land and are open fir camping and hunting. The conditions in uk are unimaginable to me
I use the genuine footprint with my Helm 1 compact. It covers both the back and front vestibules which gives a nice dry area for putting gear. For the convenience it’s totally worth carrying the little extra weight (in my opinion).
Another great video btw. Thank you for making and uploading them 🙏
I use a footprint. I am using a Big Agnes copper spur and at about £400 ( Pure rip off that I had to buy the footprint as a extra ) I always use it. The tent is quite thin and it would be a shame to rip it on the ground.
I stealth camp and I love it. It gives you the feeling of being "naughty" without actually doing anything wrong but it definitely gets more views. With that being said I've never used a footprint and my tent has been fine, I just make sure nothing silly will come through first.
Nawty boi 🤪
I used a cheap tarp under the tent for years and like your mat I position it as at the door for in/out and fold it in when door closed
I’ve never been stealth camping, but I watch a few videos as some are very entertaining. I’ve no doubt many are deliberately silly to get views but there is an element of urban camping for people that don’t have easy access to more rural land. Ultimately if people enjoy it and they are doing no harm it’s a worthwhile pursuit.
I pledgy guilty on being deliberatly silly. Not really for views or subs, mostly to entertain myself and to make a fun video I like myself.
What nobody tells you, is that stealthcamping is actually quite boring. Once you are at your destination, there is not much to do. You cant make any noise, dont use lights, making a fire is not always a good idea. To kill time I like to do silly stuff. 😋
Believe it or no, but the ridiculous stuff is less suspicious than hiding in the bushes somewhere.
Cheers, Beun #StealthCampingAlliance
“Stealth” just means hidden. It’s a bit of fun like hide and seek for fully grown men. There’s always going to some people who take things a bit far. Best to just do what you enjoy and not compare with others
Not quite.
Stealth camping is camping without any legal right to be there. It's basically overnight trespassing, and you could be, technically, prosecuted for it.
The helm 1 footprint does cover the rear porch area, I keep it permanently attached to the main peg-out points to make pitching in one go possible.
I use a £1.00 tarp from poundland or similar as a footprint, you know, the green cheap ones...Not too heavy and fairly thick.
I bet they’re at least £1.50 now. Bloody inflation 😆
@@DaleyOutdoors 🤣
I use a mix of OE footprints so long as they're no more than 35 quid or so, or a cut to fit Tyvek sheet reinforced edges with gaffa tape and tarp clips as pegging points. Primarily so I can pack the inner with the fly and not worry about it getting covered in shite. As for stealth, I've always assumed that just means where no one can easily spot your tent.
The hole in the stone is probably a drill, a series of holes would have been drilled along the stone to split it into shape. You'd have had a guy (or 2) with a hammer and another turning the bit by hand, although a soft rock like you have there may have just had one guy. It's called 'Jacking' and it's where the name for a 'Jackhammer' comes from. You can see hundreds of them on Dartmoor.
As for stealth camping, it's clickbait as technically all camping, with the exception of Dartmoor, in England and Wales has to be 'stealth camping' to varying degrees. What you did in this video is fine, but I've seen one guy do it in a church in Plymouth that had been destroyed in the last war, it's a war memorial to the civilians that died and camping in there was disrespectful.
Hi ya, I’m over from Gaz’s channel. I like yours too so, just subscribed! Thanks for your great content. Michelle
Awesome! Thank you! 🤓
I think they call stealth camping when your camping near people with a high chance of gettin spotted, and why they do it is definitely because theres an audience for it, I think they get a buzz too 😄
That's the Steve Wallis school of stealth camping, but it's not really true stealth camping.
Stealth camping is sleeping in an area you have no legal right to be.
Hence the need for stealth. Otherwise it's just hide-and-seek but you're the only person who knows you're playing.
Best footprint for tent = tyvek. Super lightweight, costs nothing. You can cut it to fit exactly below your tent and isnt bigger, water could rain on the pieces around your tent and flood you.
Great video mate, love your sense of humour 😂
Thanks Gary 👍 Ben 🤓
Great video, thanks for sharing.
I bought a cheap tarp from Poundland for my Lanshan 1, all I had to do was trim it to size and attach some loops that i made with bungee cord, job done for next to nothing.
I often wonder the same about the stealth camps but I LOVE watching them 😂 Some of the channels I watch are just brilliant. Blotoutdoors is a great one and he genuinely enjoys the places he camps in even though some of them are proper grotty. I don't think I'd enjoy it myself. I love watching wildcamps too in scenic places like the one you were at in this video...what a stunning place to explore!
Blots great
Wrap stove gas can in light cloth baggie and pop inside stove pot saves scratching the Teflon
I always use a footprint ... home made out of cheap tarps
Yellow is a magnet for flies. My son's yellow kayak was always covered with flies, whereas my green canoe had none!
a footprint is an expensive word to me - a piece of visqueen from a builders merchant can be cut to size, very tough and very cheap. I use it as a sit mat for lunch stops or a poncho when some muppet nicks your jacket, as happened to a mate once. Regarding stealth - I avoid orange tents and jackets. Some say they make helicopter rescue easier, just carry a hi vis vest is my response.
Yeah. Builders plastic sheeting is a no-brainer. It's cheap, and come in a variety of thicknesses to suit the weight you fancy carrying.
And this is why both my Lanshans are green, as is my backpack, and the rest of my clothes are dark/black.
Although I did wonder if I should have gotten the muddy brown one, depends where you are camping innit
i tend to use an old army ground sheet that acts as my footprint .cheers great channel
The holes are where they drilled the rock to pack in the explosives when it was a working quarry to blast the rocks
I use a poundland groundsheet mainly to give a mud free area in the vestibule.
Yay in the peaks dying to get the bravery up 😊
I just take a cheap polyprop tarp as a groundsheet, say 1200 x 1800mm or so, it isn't water proof per se but it forms a barrier for sharp stones or twigs and wet/damp grass. It means the tent can bag up afterwards clean with no mud or sheep poohs on the bath tub because the tarp takes all the dirt. It also allows you to collapse and pack the tent on a clean dry surface. I take 2 of these tarps for a larger tent - a 3 person tent - when camping with my partner.
I always use a footprint *cheap aftermarket tarp. Not the lightest but then I'm not a fan of the nonsense around the current trend of obsessing over lightweight kit.
Great vid and sense of humour man! 😁
Thanks! 🤓
I just use a cheap Amazon tarp for under the tent. I find it also helps with reducing condensation on the floor. Cheap and doesn't add much weight and I can use it for other things aswell.
Yeah I fell for buying a ‘proper’ footprint 😬🤦♂️
@@DaleyOutdoors yes. I paid for a footprint for my Nevis 200 but couldn't get one foe my Banshee so just used a cheap tarp.
You have such beautiful areas to camp
Hi mate always use a footprint find it more snug in the tent.
Also I have helm 1 and it goes through into the small porch area as well which is great.
Cheers Graham
I’ve thought that too: what is the difference between stealth and wild camping? Great spot though. 👍👍
Stealth camping is cooler innit.
At the moment, just about all wild camping in England is stealth camping (though in a few places, responsible wild camping is tolerated).
It's different in Scotland and in some other countries.
Wild camping is in more wild places further away from urban areas. Stealth tends to be more urban so you hide so nobody knows you are there. It’s safer not being seen in some areas and if you can’t get to Lake District camping in some bushes down the road is the more realistic option.
Nice video Ben. Regarding the footprint situation, I always use one. Not only for a bit of puncture protection, but as I do my camps in the Peaks, the main reason is that it keeps the bottom of the tent clean, especially from Sheep crap. Also, it's far easier to rinse a footprint off in the shower than a tent. 👍🙂
Rinse? Clean? Nah you’ve lost me there mate 🤣 Thanks for watching 👍
footprint dont stop spiky bitsthats what your roll mate is for not just warmth, but it dose stop the bottom of the tent from getting muddy ,i always use one for that reason and no other ,good to see you out mate
I have a couple of Vango's and two Pomoly hot tents, all have a footprint. The former two were quite cheap, the latter quite a bit more but part is heatproof mat. I prefer a footprint, but will go without if I need the space or travelling light.
Re footprints, sometimes do, sometimes don't. Mostly use one if the ground is wet and there's no wind. Helps with evapotranspiration causing condensation.
Sometimes get the manufacturers one, sometimes make one (polycryolate bought off Amazon and cut to shape). Depends if the manufacturers one covers the vestibule/s.
I made a footprint from a piece of polycro - which we know better as that DIY window insulation plastic sheeting. Super cheap online...but I am coming the opinion it might not be necessary. I am planning my first stealth camp...it worries me, but I need to do it cos there aren't many spaces near me that are remote or wild enough, and can't afford the campsites now, so I'd need to stealth camp in a still wild-ish area but not exactly remote.
As an Australian I laugh when I see Brit campers with satellite gear
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Love your videos - thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Old stonemasons would hand drill holes into the stone with a hammer and chisel, then use a metal plug and wedges (feathers) to split the stone to size
So you went from Steve Irwin mode to Julia Bradbury mode.
Those holes are probably where they drilled to ram explosives into the rock.
I thought that but wouldn’t the explosives blow up the hole 🤷♂️
I use a footprint as my camps tend to be on roughish ground & rarely grassy, so for a 150g weight penalty i like the extra feeling of protection. Not a stealth camper, but like to be out of sight of human activity...
I just use a cheap tarp for a ground sheet or if not to expensive I the ground sheet with the tent
You're one of the best . Always enjoy your videos. You give enough hints for those that are prepared to make an effort to find out where the pitch is without spelling it out. Top notch. 🙂
Cheers mate 👍
CAT S75 has sat coms. Im looking at getting 1. There is also a similar device to the one you have by the same manufacturer, to use with ant phone.
😏 Grizzly sent me.
Wild camping I do you are right wild camping is stealth camping i think it’s just to get views on CZcams and it gives you buzz but to me camping behind bins factory’s i would call it more urban camping to me
Holes are for splitting the rock, and/or for inserting dynamite.
Hi I stealth camped it seemed when in the army and didnt even know it. Low profile to avoid detection. But ti my mind listening to what you said if they go urban that's just click bait. I still use a trap rather than a tent, although I do have a few. I also maintain the low profile discipline light and noise discipline also. But each to their own. We all may take something different from our idea and experiences if getting outdoors. However as long as were are instead of ditting in the boxes watching another box whis the richer high them that stay indoors or us.
I’ve got a footprint for my Lanshan 1 pro. Haven’t used one for my forclaz trek 500 as the bathtub seems very heavy duty
I've used an opened out rubble bag as a footprint - low cost and works fine.
Agreed that it's not much fun packing up in the early morning rain (with or without a dollar in my hand, or pockets full of sand) 🎵🎶
Fortunately, while wearing modern footwear, you can be Lightfoot. 😂
Can't decide on footprints. But usually scared of damaging the floor of the inner and use one. Sometimes Tyvek, sometimes use the secondary glazing film cut to size for light weight, but do have a memo bespoke footprint.
I might try a Tyvek one 👍
The holes in the quarry stones is woodworm 👍🏻
I don't have a footprint for my tent. However, camping for more than one night it could be useful, especially if the bottom of the tent gets wet. I have no idea why some folk camp behind bins or supermarket car parks. Fairly sure it is for clickbait content and shock factor. I'd always choose a nice woodland or hill over an urban area any day. Nice camp Ben. All the best.
Cheers Rachel 👍
I did buy once but for most tents I use either the window cellophane which is ultralight or a heavy duty membrane used in construction which is waterproof and seems to be stick and thorn proof but quite heavy and hard to pack very small .
I watch all your videos through my TV and love them , you have seemed a bit down for a while now so I just wanted to say a big thanks 😁👍🍻
Cheers mate, I’m all good 🤓👍
I've never, in 30 years, ever used a footprint. Funnily enough I've never ripped a tent either.
Me Neither, just put a bit of 2" Gorilla tape inside your rucksack incase it happens.
I thought footprint was an Americanism for groundsheet thats built in to the tents anyway, but it appears that rather than clear the floor we buy protection for the protection
If it was winter you could wear a sheepskin coat & pants,would make a good stealth camp
I’ve not used my Helm 1 without the footprint, I like that it maps out the area for
Me especially if I have limited space, I’ve just started out though so might dump it as I get more confident 😊
I always used one until about 3-4 camps ago. Now questioning why I ever did 😆
Hey man, Im new to your channel. Just wanted to say keep up the good work with the content! I checked out your older videos and saw the progression of the different video styles? anyways keep it up!
Cheers mate. Welcome aboard! 👍
I have a fitted mat with my most recent purchase (a Mongar 2), I like that, it’s light and helps with setting up, as the poles clip in. I use a small tarp under my Phoxx 2, which doesn’t fit it right, but keeps the mud off it. I should really manufacture something that fits better. Big fan of some form of protective mat, chiefly to keep it clean, as there always seems to be a lot of mud spots in my area. Stealth camping in weird spots is not my bag at all. Most of my spots to date aren’t public access, except for Dartmoor, so they are semi stealthy, my best recent stealth camp was on an old hill fort where there once was a battle. Pitched at dusk, gone at sun up.
Never used a footprint until I bought helm one last year. I have no idea why. All my previous tents have been fine. I always take a lightweight foam mat to protect my exped and if ground looks iffy I will put it under the tent where I'm laying to protect tent floor.
Lucky being from where wild camping is allowed and no need to be stealthy. You just need to be considerate.
Another great video Daley. I was really looking forward to your opinion on that sleeping bag. (I think I mentioned in a comment on one of your previous videos) Looks like it'll be ideal for the missus 😁 As far as footprints go, I always use one (usually just a cheap tarp) to keep the bottom of the tent clean and as a clean dry surface to pack up on too.
I think its always wise to "stealth" camp if you are solo.
If they cant see you they cant take issue with you.
I would note that I think your situational awareness is switched on mate.
I recently found a perfect potential camping spot, but after some investigation realised that if any of the local kids threw anything of the overhang it would land on the camping site...... then after a bit of investigation found evidence of "local kids throwing shit off the overhang"
I also try to use a footprint, tyvek homemade, as i think paying whatever yo do for your tent the added protection is a small price to pay and offers more options for a safer set up. maybe too conservative, but my opinion.
That was a success ❤❤
No, I strictly refuse to use a footprint!
What's the point of buying an ultralight tent that is extra expensive because it's extremely light and then spending the extra money to ruin that lightweight with a footprint. NO.
Either the tent is good enough (expensive enough was it, obviously!) and then the floor is strong enough - or the tent is unsuitable for outdoor use.
An "expedition tent" that is only good for the garden or for the well manicured green of a camping site? Ridiculous! But that's just my opinion on that. (after almost 50 years of tent experience)
I would make one exception, but I haven't tried it yet, just read about it:
If the footprint covers the entire tent and not just the inner tent floor, then it should prevent moisture from the ground from condensing on the inner tent.
Physically plausible - but why make such an effort (weight, volume, money)?
If you lie in the tent and find that there is still a twig or a stone under the tent floor, you can also reach under the inner tent and remove it.
We are dealing here with small tents where you can reach every point at arm's length.
You always have something with you for the tent entrance (you take your seat mat), which is indeed very practical:
you bring significantly less dirt into the tent and if you kneel in the entrance, your knees stay dry and clean.
I hike.
I don't camp on purpose.
I camp because.
The weather changed.
It was harder or took longer than expected. Things like that.
Always used a 'footprint', but actually it's a cheap tarp. cut to size. Definitely NOT a necessity for lightweight tents, just a bit (IMHO) better than not using.
Although we also use it in our 2man, 3man and 4man poled tents, it's probably more suited to my 'family holiday tent' a Berghaus Air4XL, where more movement in the tent and more entrances/exits mean more potential footfall on the groundsheet. Relatively next to no weight, but usually a lot more waterproof than a standard sewn in groundsheet. Tougher against abrasions but the main use I feel is to stop mini beasts and water getting to the groundsheet and having to wipe a 5m x 3m groundsheet dry, other than the edges maybe, when packing!
I use a footprint when it’s really wet. The only thing it helps with is dampness when the tent drys and condensates loads inside. I don’t believe a footprint saves puncturing an airpad as it is so thin. Better to take a foam roll mat I think
re: stealth camping...I think it depends where you live. If you live near the Peaks, Dartmoor or Lake District you are fairly spoiled with wild camping opportunities - as you say, it's still illegal but in the middle of say, Sca Fell you won't have a land owner rocking up, most likely. I suspect farmers or rangers just turn a blind eye unless you are damaging something.
But if you live in the Smoke as I do, the south those opportunities become far less. I do think heading to a roundabout are odd (seen those videos too), but I have seen people just camp by motorways etc because they are hiking and need somewhere to sleep and that's the nearest 'wild' spot that people don't go to. Noisy and polluted but hey, any port in a storm. But more likely to get an irate farmer, landowner or ranger....
www.youtube.com/@benhikescamps - Ben lives in London and manages to find spots 👍
Moaning outdoors 😅made me smile 😂
if your gonna pay the price for the tent might as well stump up for the footprint 2
Thats the best trig touch I've evee seen in my life.😂
#flipatrig 👍
Outstanding adventure thanks for taking us along. Cheers.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching mate 👍
Steve Irwin mode! Hilarious! You're just missing the stingray barb!! 😂
I've got footprints for all my tents, mostly I take them for any weekend trips, but if I'm walking something hard, or long, and weight becomes important, it's definitely one of the things I drop off the list. And just like you if I leave it I'm more careful with the pitch location. (I have the tent, pegs, and footprint all separate in my pack list so I can consider each one separately depending on the trip)
Not sure about stealth camping, There's heaps of places here we're not supposed to camp, but I do. But roundabouts seem just like click bait for CZcams only?
Flipping the trig... lol
Gotta be done
Where are those two dancing winches that you've been seen in town with? You could use their entertainment right now.
Nope. You’ve lost me there…
Another cracking video, love the humour
Where do you stand on a Footprint 🤣
stealth camping behind a bin🤣
Glad you enjoyed it 😆👍
Another great vid…
Cracked up at the gesture on the Trig point.
Used a Bin liner( Bivvy) on a few occasions since leaving the mob.. why?? God knows.
You’ve hit the nail on the head Ben. Stealth camping is predominantly a fad to get CZcams views. I think its primarily aimed at folk who don’t want to walk far, or wannabe private investigators who want to pretend to be on a stake out 😆
Yeah I think so 😆 where have you been Mr Johnson? I thought you’d vanished - hope you’re keeping well 👍
I would have to disagree but only in terms of who is doing the stealth camping , CZcams hits you are probably right but as a cyclist that has traveled the UK with a very limited budget stealth camping saved me a mint and also the hassle of trying to find legit campgrounds , also there is a camping season especially in France where I rocked up to a campground only to find it closed or not taking tents only motor homes
Nice work. 😀👍
I like the idea of using something under the tent because I can replace the 'something' easily without buying a new tent because it's been turned into a colander from natures little jokes on equipment (Sticks, thorns and spikey stuff).