One of the great successes of the original V and The Final Battle was how these separate strands of the story eventually came together in very important ways. Robin and Brian seemed a bit disconnected from the rest of the plot as it advanced in the original, until Robin was kidnapped by the Visitors and taken aboard the mothership and we all know where that led. And here the Robin/Brian relationship became even more impactful to the larger plot as Robin takes it upon herself to test the red dust for revenge. The writers really knocked it out of the park, and this scene was produced extremely well. Kudos also to Blair Tefkin because I thought here she displayed an effective mixture of feigning innocence with Brian along with giving us a hint in her acting that she’s up to something. After all the maddening trauma Robin had been through, regressing into some naive teenage fantasy idea of escape with Brian might actually seem plausible, so the audience isn’t completely sure what her intentions are until she reveals the red dust, and Tefkins acting helps create that tension.
In the book based on this series, Robin told Brian about his reptile twin son who had his and twin sister, Elizabeth's grandmother's human eyes. She was pissed and then she threw the toxin at him.
Probably the most memorable (and poignant) moment of "The Final Battle". Aside from this scene, and John's unmasking, it never really lived up to grit and edginess of TOS.
I agree, Even though what Brian did was wrong, but it was Diana idea, Brain could had been a Hero, if He had told Brian No, Even if it meant to lose everything.
There's a serious disconnect in her actions -- one minute she is cold-bloodedly dispatching Brian in front of their daughter, but in the next instant she's asking, "Elizabeth? Where's my baby?" How did she transit from murderess to loving mother at a snap? Blair Tefkin seems to be playing two characters simultaneously.
Don't agree. As the commanding officer she was too important. That is like putting a field marshal into the front line. The resistance could have done this with a traitor like Daniel Bernstein instead. Julie took an unnecessary risk.
@@wonjubhoy You are not exactly right here about Julie's importance...and Tracey Mills ignored the obvious. Ham pointed out earlier--- Julie's damaged goods ---- Resistance members like Ham were (rightly or wrongly) never going to trust Julie until she put her life on the line for the cause. This move Julie made went a long way in doing earning back trust.
Robin thought he was good looking as well, and look what it got her. Twins. One lizard, and one human with a lizard tongue with the ability to shoot venom.
Julie's out & out selfless bravery, stepping straight into the chamber, knowing they needed to know if the dust was harmful to Humans still gives me goosebumps!
@@Squab1972 don't mess with Ham Tyler! I loved the coolness with which he delivered that line and the casual manner in which he walked away seeing Stephen dying.
I use to wish that after he did it to her based on diana plan he had left the Vs and joined the resistence and tried to show robin he truly cared and tried to help them but he had to be a pig and it got him dead
Honestly, Robin should've been a better mother to Elizabeth after Liz grew up. After that happened, Robin seemed to view her as a competitor for Kyles affection.
I always thought that was a result of bad decisions by the writing team, playing up the triangle between the three of them. Totally awkward. It was an obvious soap opera move. It seems like that’s why they wanted Elizabeth to go through the major transformation process and age up quickly, so they could get her into more adult-oriented situations.
Good point! Bravo Robin. You had your revenge. Brian the bastard lizard only deserved that!! Be betrayed and killed like he killed Many people and killed Robin's hopes and innocence. Poor Elisabeth will be shocked on the contrary but good Robin. Very good!!
This is actually a very interesting part of the story. The resistance resort to very dastardly tactics; testing biological weapons on POWs. Carrying out Josef mengele (Nazi) type experiments on POWs. Torture and execution of POWs. I know desperate times call for desperate measures but I think the resistance lost a lot of moral authority here. It asks the question of all of us, how far would you be prepared to go to achieve the ends and do the ends justify the means. Still a shame Peter Nelson didn’t want to continue on for V the series
When I saw This Scene it was very Disturbing, Despite What Brian Did Was Wrong, Brian could had become a Hero, if He Had Told Diana No Way, Lesson Learn, NEVER play with No One Feelings, because the trust Will No longer Be the Same, he said he love her, but it was I false I love you, sad thing Brain was never sorry for what he did too. If I were Producer of V, This is what I Would had done. 1. If Robin would had she did, to toss the Red Dust, I would had made Elizabeth Leave and not to see her Father die, tossed it while the two are alone. 2. After Robin presents to Brain their daughter, I would had left and have someone else tossed the red dust instead, for example Robert Maxwell in that scene, Robin Father was Upset with good cause. 3. Besides Capturing Brain, capture like another visitor, toss it to other visitor, So Brain Can see what it does, also give the opportunity to redeem himself, I would have prefer Brain get killed sacrificing his life, Example: D'Artagnan did with with Philippe, When King Louis attempted to Kill his own Brother or like Harmony did with Willie in the Final Battle. I would Prefer the 3rd Option in my Opinion, I know it is a Series, but made things better.
I would have preferred a more heroic death for Brian while trying to protect his daughter, just like that highly intense scene between Darth Vader and Luke in The Return of the Jedi.
Or Gul Dukat and Zial. But Brian is too young. He would have learned never to trust Diana even if he had chosen to continue fighting against the Rebs. Being blinded by ideology and ambition AND being young can get you killed.
Diana wanted to conduct an experiment to see if she would get pregnant. She used Brian for that effort. Donovan rescued her from the mother ship shortly after the deed was done. So even if Diana knew she was pregnant they didn't know where she was. I don't think Brian knew anything about the pregnancy.
Brian just participated to thé expériment.. He never loved Robin and never cared about Her ,just using Her once that's all. Pregnant or not that's not the problem. Brian was a asshole lizard. .
I really want to like both of these miniseries but the first one was a bit cringe, though it had some great moments too, and the second one was beyond cringeworthy.
So...lizards from outer space shoot sperm and use fake private parts, even a fake tongue when they seduce humans? How else would Robin have been fooled?
Let's see... the Visitors were taking humans for live food and slaves, and Brian used Robin as part of an experiment by mating with her. The red dust was the only chance humans had of winning, and it needed testing. So, you give it to us, why shouldn't they test it on Brian?
@@MrGhostfaceLives Because it wasn't illustrated like that... it came off more spur-of-the-moment ... I may not agree with the action, but Kyle Breen's post is more of an honest assessment of what actually happened.
Well I read it that way, and so did a lot of other people from the comments I've read from people who've seen V and The Final Battle. You see it differently, and to be honest, I think you've misread it.
@@MrGhostfaceLives We can agree to disagree. As far as "A lot of other people" saw it your way? Well, all I can say is that many people are spiteful and think politics with their knee-jerk reactions instead of with practical long-term POVs of morality. Such is life. And such is sci-fi fantasy TV.
Robin had a crush on him from the fist time she saw him. He just used her for the experiment.
Yeah
Actually it is because of Diana.
At first, I think he just used her to get to know more about the humans. But you are right that he never had genuine feelings for her.
Beauty is only “skin deep”. She didn’t know the “real” him and what a snake he was.
Species before 1997
One of the great successes of the original V and The Final Battle was how these separate strands of the story eventually came together in very important ways. Robin and Brian seemed a bit disconnected from the rest of the plot as it advanced in the original, until Robin was kidnapped by the Visitors and taken aboard the mothership and we all know where that led. And here the Robin/Brian relationship became even more impactful to the larger plot as Robin takes it upon herself to test the red dust for revenge. The writers really knocked it out of the park, and this scene was produced extremely well.
Kudos also to Blair Tefkin because I thought here she displayed an effective mixture of feigning innocence with Brian along with giving us a hint in her acting that she’s up to something. After all the maddening trauma Robin had been through, regressing into some naive teenage fantasy idea of escape with Brian might actually seem plausible, so the audience isn’t completely sure what her intentions are until she reveals the red dust, and Tefkins acting helps create that tension.
Robins acting in this episode is superb!
It's a lesson learn. Don't play with women's feelings.
Last time I saw this, I was a little boy. I just realize now how powerful the scene is. The tension! :)
In the book based on this series, Robin told Brian about his reptile twin son who had his and twin sister, Elizabeth's grandmother's human eyes. She was pissed and then she threw the toxin at him.
Robin had an angry payback look in her eyes that was scary. I saw that coming.
Brian didn't. The Master Race. 🤣
Robin got her revenge and I believe Elizabeth knew she was going to kill her father.
And I don’t think she wanted to stop her mummy eather,Brian hurt her and most of it all he hurt Robins friends so no dice Brian
I love that last line. Ironside can make a joke and. Being able to keep a straight face.
See you at the party, Richter!
Probably the most memorable (and poignant) moment of "The Final Battle". Aside from this scene, and John's unmasking, it never really lived up to grit and edginess of TOS.
Killing him in front of the child is disturbing
Yeah, but Robin was pretty clearly disturbed. I think having lizard baby twins does that to a gal. ;)
I agree, Even though what Brian did was wrong, but it was Diana idea, Brain could had been a Hero, if He had told Brian No, Even if it meant to lose everything.
There's a serious disconnect in her actions -- one minute she is cold-bloodedly dispatching Brian in front of their daughter, but in the next instant she's asking, "Elizabeth? Where's my baby?" How did she transit from murderess to loving mother at a snap? Blair Tefkin seems to be playing two characters simultaneously.
@@h.p.lovecats7422 PTSD will do that
You've seen the kid, right? The girl looks pretty disturbing.
Julie acted like a leader here taking that toxin.
LBF522 Brian got what he deserved
@@Squab1972 I agree.
Don't agree. As the commanding officer she was too important. That is like putting a field marshal into the front line. The resistance could have done this with a traitor like Daniel Bernstein instead. Julie took an unnecessary risk.
kevin gallagher they needed an answer, and she provided the resistance with one.
@@wonjubhoy You are not exactly right here about Julie's importance...and Tracey Mills ignored the obvious. Ham pointed out earlier--- Julie's damaged goods ---- Resistance members like Ham were (rightly or wrongly) never going to trust Julie until she put her life on the line for the cause. This move Julie made went a long way in doing earning back trust.
Blair Tefkin is amazing in this scene, as is the music!
This is good but my favorite is when Tyler pours the red dust on Stevens face!
“Say goodnight hotshot”
I sent that to Scooter Braun
My wife loved this series as a 12 year old when it first aired. She said Brian was very good looking and cried when he was killed!
Ah man my sister said the same!
with mask or without mask? hehehe
Robin thought he was good looking as well, and look what it got her. Twins. One lizard, and one human with a lizard tongue with the ability to shoot venom.
I was 9 when this show aired and like your wife, I cried too! He was so handsome.
LMAO, I was 8 and I cried too. i was "in love" with him, ROTFLMAO...
Julie's out & out selfless bravery, stepping straight into the chamber, knowing they needed to know if the dust was harmful to Humans still gives me goosebumps!
Brian looked at Elizabeth the way a hungry human might look at a lamb.
Mutts are nobody's lambs. We're survivors because neither of our two worlds will ever fully accept us. We're survivors. And warriors.
@@tatianalyulkin410 Uh, ok. Whatever.
That's a waste of perfectly good luggage
Robin and Juliet...GREAT.
Yeah
I been waiting for this scene ....
Now Steven and Daniel death would make the hat trick
Type in ham tyler another one bites the dust and you should see stephen's death.
kevin gallagher say goodnight hotshot........a class line from Ham Tyler
@@Squab1972 don't mess with Ham Tyler! I loved the coolness with which he delivered that line and the casual manner in which he walked away seeing Stephen dying.
@@wonjubhoy like or loathe him, you would certainly want him on your side.
Daniel: "Steven! No! Nooooooooooooo"
The only moment that Elizabeth shared with her mother and father.
This is so sad. That he was a liar & manipulator
And a deadbeat.
@@dxrulz4life They both got what they deserved, him and Daniel.
@@lj6769 yep. And later, Steven would as well.
It was Diana who conducted the experiment. He was used as her by Diana and probably not knew he was a father.
I use to wish that after he did it to her based on diana plan he had left the Vs and joined the resistence and tried to show robin he truly cared and tried to help them but he had to be a pig and it got him dead
Absolutely love, this part brilliant!❤
Good luck getting that child support
But the upside is Elizabeth grew up really fast.
Still a good scene the effects hold up
As a 9 year old. This scene was second to Diana's conversion modes.
Honestly, Robin should've been a better mother to Elizabeth after Liz grew up. After that happened, Robin seemed to view her as a competitor for Kyles affection.
I couldn't agree more! I hated how Robin behaved once Elizabeth grew up. Maybe family therapy should've been in order.
@@actorben Or better writers.
I always thought that was a result of bad decisions by the writing team, playing up the triangle between the three of them. Totally awkward. It was an obvious soap opera move. It seems like that’s why they wanted Elizabeth to go through the major transformation process and age up quickly, so they could get her into more adult-oriented situations.
Most moms don’t expect to have daughters close to their own age
Shame. Brian had a so handsome mask...
Beauty is just skin deep.
Good point! Bravo Robin. You had your revenge. Brian the bastard lizard only deserved that!! Be betrayed and killed like he killed Many people and killed Robin's hopes and innocence. Poor Elisabeth will be shocked on the contrary but good Robin. Very good!!
She did a pretty good job acting.
This is actually a very interesting part of the story. The resistance resort to very dastardly tactics; testing biological weapons on POWs. Carrying out Josef mengele (Nazi) type experiments on POWs. Torture and execution of POWs.
I know desperate times call for desperate measures but I think the resistance lost a lot of moral authority here.
It asks the question of all of us, how far would you be prepared to go to achieve the ends and do the ends justify the means.
Still a shame Peter Nelson didn’t want to continue on for V the series
Love this scene 😍
The last line was a pretty good.
That deadly red pepper chemical is the only weakness to a visitor
Being Irish, the scariest part of this is the priest taking the child away.
More videos please please please
No better than the Visitors!
And she did it with a smile on her face.
"Well, we found out what it does to them. I wonder what it does to us?"
"Let's find out!" KKSSSSHHHHHH!!
It as still twisted for her daughter to witness the death
Tyler knows boldness when he sees it.
Brilliant series!!!
The Revenge of Robin....yeahhhhh
Brian looks like Prince Edward when he was younger.
When I saw This Scene it was very Disturbing, Despite What Brian Did Was Wrong, Brian could had become a Hero, if He Had Told Diana No Way, Lesson Learn, NEVER play with No One Feelings, because the trust Will No longer Be the Same, he said he love her, but it was I false I love you, sad thing Brain was never sorry for what he did too. If I were Producer of V, This is what I Would had done.
1. If Robin would had she did, to toss the Red Dust, I would had made Elizabeth Leave and not to see her Father die, tossed it while the two are alone.
2. After Robin presents to Brain their daughter, I would had left and have someone else tossed the red dust instead, for example Robert Maxwell in that scene, Robin Father was Upset with good cause.
3. Besides Capturing Brain, capture like another visitor, toss it to other visitor, So Brain Can see what it does, also give the opportunity to redeem himself, I would have prefer Brain get killed sacrificing his life, Example: D'Artagnan did with with Philippe, When King Louis attempted to Kill his own Brother or like Harmony did with Willie in the Final Battle.
I would Prefer the 3rd Option in my Opinion, I know it is a Series, but made things better.
I would have preferred a more heroic death for Brian while trying to protect his daughter, just like that highly intense scene between Darth Vader and Luke in The Return of the Jedi.
Lol. Brain. His name is Brian you retard!
Or Gul Dukat and Zial. But Brian is too young. He would have learned never to trust Diana even if he had chosen to continue fighting against the Rebs. Being blinded by ideology and ambition AND being young can get you killed.
"Reptile".....from the voice of "Mortal Kombat"!
Hell have no fury like a woman scorned!
Thank you. Waiting on this 1. Also 1st view 🙂
This scene was so satisfying
They all looked great young especially Faye Grant I think is her name gorgeous she weee!!!!!
I meant Faye Grant is gorgeous when was/were young!!!!
Don't take advantage of women.
brian le beau gosse et robin la nunuche innocente, best couple ever
He did not know he got her pregnant?? Or was she just kept hidden from the aliens.
Diana wanted to conduct an experiment to see if she would get pregnant. She used Brian for that effort. Donovan rescued her from the mother ship shortly after the deed was done. So even if Diana knew she was pregnant they didn't know where she was. I don't think Brian knew anything about the pregnancy.
Brian just participated to thé expériment.. He never loved Robin and never cared about Her ,just using Her once that's all. Pregnant or not that's not the problem. Brian was a asshole lizard. .
Something tells me Brian was not easy to get along with in real life at that time.
Amazing quality in this scene. Was this re-mastered?
Too bad humanity isn't brave enough to do this to those who want to destroy us today.
And who are you talking about?
@@tatianalyulkin410 Those in power. The WEF. The Globalists.
I'm a big man now Jennifer cook Douglas lol lol ~far
I really want to like both of these miniseries but the first one was a bit cringe, though it had some great moments too, and the second one was beyond cringeworthy.
Hahahahahaha..."How about your mother?" LOL. Love Ham!
La serie la tengo en dvd
Real red dynamite lol
So...lizards from outer space shoot sperm and use fake private parts, even a fake tongue when they seduce humans? How else would Robin have been fooled?
You realize this is fiction, right?
In the book, Robin knew something wasn't quite right with the sex.
There was a book? In what way did she know? She was a virgin until he came along!@@RideAcrossTheRiver
@@LandersWorkshop That's what happens in the book
Will robin and Brian have biological grandchildren though Elizabeth?
So... give it to me... WHAT makes Robin's actions here morally legitimate?
FLYING DREAM PRODUCTIONS A woman scorned
Let's see... the Visitors were taking humans for live food and slaves, and Brian used Robin as part of an experiment by mating with her. The red dust was the only chance humans had of winning, and it needed testing. So, you give it to us, why shouldn't they test it on Brian?
@@MrGhostfaceLives Because it wasn't illustrated like that... it came off more spur-of-the-moment ... I may not agree with the action, but Kyle Breen's post is more of an honest assessment of what actually happened.
Well I read it that way, and so did a lot of other people from the comments I've read from people who've seen V and The Final Battle. You see it differently, and to be honest, I think you've misread it.
@@MrGhostfaceLives We can agree to disagree. As far as "A lot of other people" saw it your way? Well, all I can say is that many people are spiteful and think politics with their knee-jerk reactions instead of with practical long-term POVs of morality. Such is life. And such is sci-fi fantasy TV.
Error (s) in my text (s)
now they call it the vaccine.
Bullshit
Poor Brian.:(