Summit1g Reacts: 15 Years of WoW vs 1 Year of FFXIV! | by Jesse Cox
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- Summit reacts to 15 Years of WoW vs 1 Year of FFXIV by Jesse Cox who is a veteran in World of Warcraft and explains the difference between WoW & Final Fantasy XIV Online!
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This chat makes Asmons Chat look like compressed maturity.
true dude. i can't handle his chat during this man. lmao
Tbf asmon's chat is a bit better ever since he changed his attitude about it
this chat did not age well lmao
gotta say bro im a juicer but summits chat is where i feel welcomed
twitch chat is always a shit show when there are thousands of ppl typing
These die-hard WoW players don't realize their toxic behavior has done more damage to their game's population then FFXIV ever could.
It is sad that they are so hostile that they kill off any new player’s desire to play the game. Only to be combined with Blizzard’s terrible conduct.
I could never imagine playing WoW outside of a guild of people who you enjoying playing with. It'd be such a slog to deal with non-stop shitty randoms.
I think asmon said the game has no moderator or gm
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Realy did injustice for ffxiv in combat section... You just can't say that wow bosses are more thought out or complex... Like realy...
Ily Jesse ❤️
Jesse, you're cool man but I have to agree with the other commentor here. Savage raids and Ultimate raids are just as engaging, if not more engaging than WoW raids. Sure there's no trash pulls, but bosses are very much a huge slew of mechanics and DPS checks. You made it sound like FF raids are cheap and basic, when they really are spectacular and thrilling.
The space butterfly himself.
yeah alot of Summit's chat are just thinking about it the wrong way... "who cares about the story in an mmo?" Story is one of the fundamental pillars of a good mmo alongside gameplay, end-game content, community, and developers that interact with the community. You're free to ignore the story in an mmo but it's still core to the game's success lol
they got battered woman syndrome
I mean, nah even a decent story takes a backseat to the gameplay, systems depth, and community, in my opinion anyway. Like if it's interesting I'll listen, but most don't really give me what I want
I think most of these people don't understand what an RPG is. It's first and foremost a story-driven game. An MMORPG should accompany the story-driven game with many social features and create a fantasy world where all players can meet. The argument "who cares about the story in an mmo?" is only made by people who have been numbed to the true concept of an MMORPG, probably due to WoW's terrible philosophy and game design. Sure, there are people who play in order to raid only or play with friends, but those are not MMORPG players, they're MMO players. MMORPG players get upset by WoW's story and probably love FF14's story, whereas MMO players are practically strangers to the genre and are only in it out of boredom instead of curiosity, dismissing story and skipping content just so they can get to the end and feel empty - and jump to the next thing.
Of course, gameplay and community are also very important, but the story truly is what makes an RPG. How many people would play Skyrim if it put you straight into the game, if you couldn't speak to NPCs or anybody in the game? Would it feel good to run around killing things without any sort of context or dialogue? What about Dragon Age? What if Dragon Age didn't have any story? Would people still play it? What about Witcher 3? Those seeking just the thrill of killing strong enemies are not true RPG players, and it seems like some of them feel like they're the only right ones and criticize everyone who cares about the story or wants to know why they kill an enemy.
Which is stupid. The fact that FF14 is designed to revolve around the main story - that you don't need to do anything else other than main story to reach endgame - is a clear indicator that they WANT you to be a part of the story, that the story is a very important aspect of the game. It's the way the game is intended to be played. Same thing with the music - they purposely make all sorts of different songs and themes for different moments, they edit the songs to fit the right moments for the biggest impact and some people just put on some random CZcams playlist and skip quests like it's their duty to reach the end and ignore everything the game throws at them.
Ignoring the story in a game intended to deliver one is stupid. But it's fine as long as you don't try to shame others for enjoying it. When you say "who cares about the story in an mmo" you officially cross that boundary and you're the reason toxic communities form. They're the same people who scream about shows having too much dialogue instead of fighting. The same people who want to seem cool and "manly" by harassing and shaming others for having different tastes. The same people who yell "weeb trash" even though most "weeb trash" is actually Japanese culture and more interesting than any of their lives. Not only is the MMORPG genre not for them, but in my opinion they shouldn't even be allowed on the internet. They're literally the reason toxicity exists.
Story only matters once
Lore not story, locking content behind story to just slow down player progression per day is just lame. It hr a lot less lame if ff14 just did regional stories like WoW but they're dead set on slowing you down until you realize they gated hard-core content and hate the game 😂
Why does it seem like the Wow community just hates happiness?
they hate themself and join what is popular + I see them all day on all chat love to compare and complain about everything LUL but there are people just wanna go away from the toxic community in WoW.
tbh they in delusional state rn
Honest answer? We fell in love with Blizzard for its quality games. Most play more than one Blizzard game. Then they killed SC2 by fiddling too much and making games-wrecking decisions that maximized their attempts to cash in on the esports potential. They killed Diablo by rushing and then making game-breaking decisions that attempted to maximize profits and making the end game objective achievable with real world money. Heroes of the Storm, they killed overnight in an announcement without warning anyone including professional players. As for WoW, we've been betrayed too many times by developers who have literally told us that we are too dumb to know what we want: "you think you do, but you don't" (and then were proved to be completely wrong).
We don't believe the hype. And when we do, we get betrayed again and again. It become habit to not believe developers and hate the fact that you're addicted to something that punishes you for having nostalgia, for wanting to have fun.
I switched over recently and this month, I unsubbed from WoW. All it took was a leap of faith and now I believe again, but this time in FF14.
@@JohnYoo39 They did an amazing job with diablo 3 expansion tho
Because they play WoW
I’m really enjoying FFXIV so far. Slow start but it picks up quick and I’m loving how crafting is. Crafting actually takes skills and requires you to think on what ability to use next, to raise its quality without breaking the item. The professions are actual classes that level. But they’re called jobs in FinalFantasy
Don't forget, if you really want to you can also use your combat classes and gatherers and go almost completely self sustained crafter.
@@Blitzwaffen you van do thuis with just the free trail. I personaly call it trailmanmode
@@troy00114 Just started and professions are so cool compared to wow, i love how u get new gear for ur profession as u lvl up :D
Lol why everyone playing ff14 i played it like a normal person 4 years ago when it came out
@@CHICKENmcNUGGIESMydude
Probably because there has been a big trend lately, where a lot of WoW players in the community try out or even fully vacate to FFXIV. The Blizzard Lawsuit hasn't helped WoW much either.
"WoW is design to level other characters"
Also WoW - nothing is account wide
Exactly. More grind.
I see no difference since it took me 200 hours to complete all of the ff14 campaign and 40 hours to level all characters. On average takes 5 hours to catch up the gear to the norm.
@@tekamer6566 That is a such a stupid statement. If you can't see how FF14 is different from WoW in terms of account wides, you're either not playing the games or you're just plain stupid. You don't have to grind 4 times the enigma to get to the same place in FF14. Systems are made so that if you have alternate classes, you can catch up / do systems that don't require as much time. I'll restate this again: You're either plain stupid, or a WoW fanboy.
@@tatsunithelennyking2540 Actually, you are the one sounding super defensive and immature, that's what real fan boys do.
@@tatsunithelennyking2540 system is made more idiots that can’t farm or lvl up. You still lvling up with other classes in FFXIV you not logging in or out all the time or creating characters. Reason why I prefer having multi characters. You have limited bag space and I create new characters to be mules to hold mats.
15 Years of WoW vs 1 Year of FFXIV! and the chat calling him biased Pepega
everyone is biased, hes a wow player so his view sways towards that game
@@NonsensicalSpudz Uhm, they were calling him biased for swaying on FFXIV's side lol. ?????
@@InsenseCraft becuz he see what good from ffxiv ? not only jeesecox but asmongold , he also enjoy playing the game . Nothing to compare here .
Twitch chats are the fuckin worst
@@InsenseCraft wait what?????
Seems like the wow players that are toxic have been brainwashed into thinking wasting their time is enjoyment
Honestly the friendly and helpful community has completely changed my attitude when interacting with people in game
When they've spent tens of thousands of hours in a game, it can get real hard to admit when it starts to suck. So many hours, spent on nothing.
@@naoko3749 Their minds are nigh-intertwined with the sunk-cost fallacy.
It's geniuenly pitiful.
Favorite moment of FF14 was beating ES6 with very bare minimum item level with a group of friends doing our first ever savage raid at 6 am after 7 hours of wiping
That sounds magical man.
Chat need to chill the F out.
Ppl did the exact same thing to Asmongold but pushing the hell out of him and what he did? He said FU chat, let him do what he want and decide for himself if he wants to play or not
(Timeskip) he decided to try it and enjoy it so far.
So someone people need to respect youtubers who never played FFXIV and let them decide if it's for them or not, not in a business perspective, but personal.
Rust is still elite, but play these mediocre games is ok.
@@moltenphoenix6187 i didnt understand that
i love how the chat dont even belive that there are nice people in ffxiv, giving people advice in dungoens, NO WAYYYYYY :O
WHich speaks volumes about how much of an abomination the WoW community is.
And not the cool Scourge kind either.
Man these wow players are so salty and jealous that FF gets all this attention, even though the lead dev of FF played WoW and had nothing but praise for the game.
They literally have spent so much money and time they're afraid to leave their virtual reallity and anything that challenges it just tilts them
Watching this streamer has really made me appreciate Asmongold, and understand why Asmon is so successful. This dude just sat there and watched the video without saying much or engaging with his chat. This is boring af.
100% truth
This guy's pretty popular as well though but I agree with what you're saying
summit isn't popular for reaction or personality content, he used to be a really big name in CSGO comp.
Summit is a great fps player and also good at racing games but he isn't what I'd call an entertainer not like Asmon is.
You find a lot of the shooter streamers lack in personality with a few exceptions. Mainly because to do what they need to do to keep their audience they have to sweat it out and concentrate. That being said games like cod dont exactly attract odd or eccentric people
i like how when it was mentioned that the community isn’t that toxic someone in chat said “60% of the papers are probably girls too” no, majority of the people i’ve met through playing ff were men. like a good 80%. yes while the percentage might be higher than in wow the reason for ff players not being as toxic is not based off of the gender of the player base
Like what difference does it make with the men to women ratio? It doesn't change anything
@@torrix_4595 exactly. but the guys that comment shit like that are also the same guys that think that women are all supposed to be really kind and cute animal crossing players (which is a good game it’s just very different from ff or wow). it’s the same reason why the same type of people have such a hard time fathoming that raids in ff can be difficult
I have a friend from the WoW days who plays FFXIV probably more than most of her guild, and she says that pretty much the entire guild are Au ra or Miqote girls, but she's pretty much the only woman in the guild. Definitely male players, for sure xD
Judd popping out of nowhere with his cat girl killed me
The Raids are "what if" scenarios revolved around what could've happened if certain things went differently in the story in XIV and it's absolutely a wonder
EX/Savage content is.
Raids are considered canon. It's why there are a LOT of raid references throughout. And, yes, there's dialogue for when you have/haven't done the raids yet to avoid spoilers.
So a game that wants you to slave away for any drops of content to pump those engagement metrics vs a game that wants you to enjoy yourself?
What a great video by Jesse. FFXIV is genuinely outstanding and i'm a WoW player at heart
Thanks for uploading this! I missed half of his reaction during the livestream and now I’m able to catch up with the rest.
Really hope he gives this game a proper go and decides to stream it. Would like to see his perspective on the game’s story, their cinematic trailers & whatnot.
@KonaGaming gatekeeping andy. are people not allowed to change their minds? unless you know him irl stop acting like you know what he wants to do lul. parasocial shit smh
@KonaGaming You couldn’t be ANY more wrong it’s actually funny. Really bad timing on your part considering Summit finished playing CrowFall, is currently playing The Old Republic as we speak & is thinking about playing FFXIV possibly. Next time, don’t be randomly salty at somebody and spew shit when you don’t know what you’re talking about.
@KonaGaming This comment aged like milk left in a Florida swamp.
LoL at the wow lore masters in Summits chat getting salty AF about this video.
I read pure salt, and yet it emanates nothing but sadness.
His chat is wow fan boy copping with the fact ppl r leaving and play ffxiv
Well ff14 coping that they can’t convert more people isn’t that right ?
Yeah clearly they don't know the difference between story and lore.
@@tekamer6566 You're in every comment trying to convince yourself of this.... It's sad man.
Summit played gw2 a while back and all he did was spam pvp for 10 hours a day and got mald as he got beaten due to his lack of knowledge and mechanics, he is competetive and ffxiv is much about chill story and pve I doubt it is a game for him.
People calling hunt trains communism now that is some cringe level shit right there. how u managed to do the mental gymnastics to basically call ingame community held events communism actual yikes
It's fun as hell. Especially when you're just chilling and this huge group of players come flying past.
The only inaccurate thing about FFXIV in this video is about the FFXIV endgame raiding.
Jesse hasn't gotten to the raid yet so he doesn't know but FFXIV's Ultimate Raids are the hardest raids in any MMO.
No. I did them they aren’t even half of what wow mythic raids are. I would say that about the same metric of players join them though about 4% of the community.
@@tekamer6566 That's complete horse shit.
@@tekamer6566 as someone who has actually raided in mythic and ultimate, ultimate is definitely more challenging. I'm not saying wow's is extremely easy, but mythic is more comparable to savage in ff and ultimate is a whole different tier. If you were to say something like I think mythic Uu'nat is harder than some of the ultimate fights I could see your point, but you're saying ultimate is HALF as difficult? It's like you didn't think your lie was convincing enough so you have to go so far in the opposite direction like someone giving a 7/10 game a steam review of 1 star and calling it an unplayable terrible game because they feel like they have to be overexaggerate how bad it is to average out the rest of the opinions you don't agree with. You don't even need to play both to understand why ff ultimates are harder. they're much longer, many new mechanics being thrown at you one after the other vs the couple you get in a mythics, classes have way more in depth rotations that are harder to play while doing mechanics than wow, and there is way more individual responsibility per mechanic because there's only 8 people vs 20. I don't know why people like you insist on lying, it's ok if a game does something better than yours, more competition is good for both. A community pretending their game does everything perfectly means it will never improve to compete with their competition.
@@tekamer6566 yeah no, this just isnt true
@TheDoritoBurrito Link your mythic tier logs. Or I dont believe either one of you.
Another big difference is that XIV finds a way to keep older content relevant
FF14 community is friendly and chill but if your new to any type of healer class it's rough. Streets is cold, always that one asshole that starts talking shit but the good thing about dungeons is that you can vote to kick someone out. Most of the time people kick out the toxic ones.
Pretty accurate.
My experience is aurum vale for the first time like 2 weeks ago was.... interesting.
So it’s not friendly then if you see groups like that.
@@DrunkCrazyMonkey I've been playing since FFXIV since the very first version, and the amount of "bad" encounters that I've had is still in the single digits. The game definitely has "some" toxic players, but it is insanely rare. In the case of Manuel (user you replied to), if he's really struggling as a healer, I'd recommend stating upfront in a party. Majority of the time, the tank will adjust accordingly (smaller pulls, etc.).
And the thing about ff14, is they don’t allow griefing. The GM’s will actually do their jobs. Unlike a certain “indie” company.
Been there, WHM since 2014. Recently switched to PLD.
I haven't found toxic players much, with either WHM or PLD, however as a healer as well as the tank have the most important jobs: Keep the party alive.
If you fail to heal once or twise, and there's a wipe, it's fine. But it's not fine to do it on purpose, I have had some healers simply not healing at all in a dungeon, having to use all my GCDs and the oh shit invulnerability with a simple pack of mobs, even heal myself at times because the healer didn't want to heal. That's not fine.
"The music is kinda whatever"
Foolishness.
tbh, it does sound kinda whatever at least on what were shown in the video.
@@Loxly-ti4sq Nah.
Any kind of ff soundtrack or music reminding me of the game will always be amazing to me. Regardless of if it is or not.
@@Loxly-ti4sq it usually the moment that makes the song sticks out. like what a MV does for a hit single. it sound so much better when you in a middle of a boss fight than just listening it randomly on youtube.
@@demoth Not necessarily, if it sounds phenomenal, it'll stand out whether you watch it with w/ or w/o context.
Don't get me wrong, i've beat realm reborn few days ago (free trial). So far boss battle themes have been okayish (I hope it will get better when i play heavensward). Maybe i'm just too spoiled with falcom music in general. this is one of the boss theme
czcams.com/video/h8CmfRgxvVQ/video.html
WoW players in his chat were so visually salty
Would be really cool to see him try it. I do feel like the slow story start will be harder for him than it was for Asmon though.
Yea I hate to say it but Sumsum wouldn't be able to sit through the story and the 100 quests after ARR. I think he would absolutely enjoy the story content if he paid for the content skip up to Shadowbringers but idk. Summit has (seemingly) never been huge into MMO games anyway and I think the slow pace of progression may be somthing to throw him off
welp a year later I can tell you he tried but the doofus burned himself out trying to min Ilevel no echo raid all the boring raids in Realm reborn and quit before he even got to the good stuff lmao.
"Lore is retconned" Ya I never really liked how they turned the undead necromancy to raising the dead with battle angels
Man that would be fucking sick if asmon and summit played together
hell no. Summit is boring as hell. Asmon doesn't even play with one of his close friends Rich.
Imagine if every big WoW streamer started playing FF. I think we got 3 already?
I was sent to FFXIV Jail once by an admin for basically not rolling on loot until the very last second in raid roulettes. They definitely enforce and hammer down on toxicity hard. Sure aint wastin ppls time now :D
@stillFLiP Yes, and no. If a loot was rolled on by everyone and the item was given to you for example, but there's still loot to roll, you can leave the raid and still keep the item you earned. You just won't get the other items that hadn't been assigned to anyone yet. Most parties will roll on loot fairly quickly though, except for the current current raid tiers since people usually take a bit of time to figure out which gear token they need most (since there's a weekly lockout).
@stillFLiP you basically forfeit your chance on getting the loot, so i was being toxic making ppl wait the 5min to roll and some were leaving to increase my chance of getting it. Which is frowned upon and i dont recommend doing that unless u wana get jailed and/or banned xD
@@kazenosenshi3410 I just wanna let you know that people appreciate the fact that you learned from the first time. Lots of people get called out and refuse to change.
i like everything about Jessy's video other than the music choice they are good songs but there are far better ones to showcase the music in this game.
The twinning
Titan and Shiva sold me on the music back in ARR. has gotten better since
Coulda picked Oblivion or A Long Fall. Personally, Neath Dark Waters and Stone and Steel should've been showcased instead of Ultima and Who Brings Shadow.
Tbf, he exclusively used ffxiv music as background music throughout the entire video and people didn't seem to notice.
That is the game for someone that never player MMO... Got my wife into this cuz there are so many good things to do besides the hard stuff, and now she loves the game and we play together the casual stuff and the farming stuff that I need for my Hard Prog.
Do it Summit ! raid with Asmongold ! let's see the FFXIV crew get bigger !!!!
Easy example of what I feel was done different. Playing wow and reaching "commander" in my legion table felt fully different than reaching lieutenant or captain or higher in final fantasy. I really did feel, "hell yeah, i am a lieutenant now". I had my squadron, I need to train them and care for them and win over new folks by doing challenges.
I've only played for a few days but I can GLADLY say that FFXIV trumps WoW in most ways. The only thing I don't enjoy is the instanced zones. But you get over it pretty quickly.
I think the thing that made me go ahead with the full purchase of FFXIV after like 3 hours of free gameplay was the community.
In WOW if you are new and you suck at the game, NO ONE is there willing to help you IN GAME.
In FFXIV however, I was in chat with questions and a little sprout by my name asking away and getting tons of answers and offers to help. When I died 3 times in 2 minutes during my first hard dungeon in FFXIV, the duty finder party just slowed down and explained the mechanics to me in chat.
When I first started WoW and up till about a month ago when I quit, If that happened you'd be removed from the party without a single word. FFXIV is a game people play to have fun. WoW is a game people play to feel better than someone else. And I think that is one of the BEST reasons for people to give the free trial a go.
@@ravenna6543 so true, I tanked my first dungeon at like lvl 19 at people were SO DANG NICE! I had a big smile on my face it felt good to be a part of a nice and friendly group =]
FF14 doesn't trump WoW in any way whatsoever kiddo. WoW is ahead as far as graphics, PvE, PvP, General UI Layout, menus, random events, toys, zones, zone layout. Literally the only thing FF14 has going for it is its story, thats it. If you think FF14 max graphics look better than WoW max graphics than you need to clean your eyes out bub because FF14 looks like dark age which isn't good. Clearly you were a casual normie when you played WoW, nothing more than a 1200 rated shitter. But I get it, FF14 is a casual normie game designed for the kids that can't compete on WoW. I wish all the baddies would leave WoW for FF14 honestly... All you plebs ruin WoW, imagine if they balanced the game around people who were good at the game instead of you shitters that complain constantly, holy shit would that be amazing.
@@toshiro6000 Listen I play both. I play tbc classic and I play ff14. I have played wow since vanilla beta. I recently quit retail about 2 months ago during the content drought, I can safely say ff14 is a better game for 95pct of the wow player base, while wow is better for the top 5pct of players. I have done mythic raiding and a lot of mythic+. IMO FF14 is a better game overall. Side note putting kiddo in your first sentence doesn't do your comment any justice.
@@toshiro6000 Damn you just got your ass handed to you in text form, ouch.
You can play/enjoy both and not love either. Each has its positives and negatives. It depends on what type of game you want to play and what you are into (Also what you are willing to tolerate to an extent). What is sad is when you base your entire personality on preferring one over the other and criticize people for playing the one you don't like or vice versa. It's dumb just like the PC vs consoles argument and the iPhone vs Android arguements. Just let people enjoy what they prefer and hell maybe give the other side a try and you never know you might end up liking it.
P.S. Most WoW players are salty over the resent FFXIV hype because of the sunk cost fallacy. They can't handle that they've been screwed by Blizzard for so long and sunk so much time and money into a game that they are now coming to realize isn't as great as they thought it was. WoW, players are basically going through the 7 stages of grief and they are still in the early stages.
My personal favourite part is the people who let WoW live in their heads rent free, even in new games. EVERY single new MMO that comes out (or gains popularity suddenly) I basically have to disable the General chat simply because people won't stop bringing WoW up. Like, ffs, I get you dislike WoW, but now that both of us have made the decision to move on from it, can i get a chance to stop hearing about it?!
Turn your tank stance on.
I mean, you usually don't want to mention the first year of FFXIV, but I guess you could since its worth remembering how much of a risk it would have been for them to take it down and reimagine it for the successful release. There's no doubt they succeeded in it, either.
Crazy how many people are hating on FF, so much integrity from the devs and WoW shits on their community and they still defend them. Competition is good for games, but when you play one game your whole life they probably don't see it that way.
i saw someone say "ugh i hate when people compare wow to ff"...- like bro.. its like both the games are under the same genre. ofc its gonna get compared
I started with Anarchy Online for a few years, then whent over to WoW just befor WOTLK mby 2 months befor it and played it until Cata wher i stoped playing WoW, got into Star Wars TOR for the story, stoped that afther a few months, and 3 days ago i started FF14 and so far im enjoying it.
I think its funny anytime ff is mentioned, the wow players in chat go full mald.
Let’s just accept that some likes FF more and others WoW, both are different games with pros and cons. I personally enjoyed both games.
Don’t need to bash either game to say that you love X game. Respect
if you are not a weeb you are a furry. Its that simple. pick a side
now that asmon is playing ffxiv its a good game but before everybody hated that shit and the biggest joke was that they were saying wow looked BETTER.
The internet these days has no opinion of their own
You mean like how everyone shat on anime for YEARS then something just clicked and people changed their opinions on it. Sheeple enjoying being herded with their ideology really is a frequent thing.
well it's because people finally tried it and gave it a chance. They always had their own opinion, it was just shit
Chat: "Summit would get bored of FF14"
Me, an intellectual: "Yeah, they said the same of Asmon. Now look where we're at."
Now he's clearing Coils and wants to marry Yshtola a cat girl lol
watching this convinced me to try ff14, ive been looking for another mmo to get into and this looks great
I hope you enjoy it, It's free to play the first two expansions in completion and caps you at lvl60 once you hit it which is still like 1/4 of the content anyway. Also, Catgirls. Never thought that would be a selling point of ANY game but by god it is.
It’s a good game. It does take time to get off the ground but you do get an awesome story as a reward for your patience. There are a lot of moments that made me an emotional bitch.
@@Lv28fighter [Spoilers]
When the resident "best girl" went missing I genuinely got mad. Not at the game or anything but like, RP mad. I couldn't help it.
Its so much fun!
@@ravenna6543 seems like yo u are wrong its just one expansion ^^
The big thing for me in terms of wow vs ff14 is that ff14 is more oriented for good pve experiences where as everyone I know who plays wow says they only pve so that they can get pvp gear and I've yet to find an mmo that I enjoy the pvp
Black desert and FF14 make WoW look like it belongs in a browser game library 😂 change my mind
Black desert is trash though
@@loaeterna2384 in what context?
@@iultrah3804 playing since 2016 can assure you BDO is some hot garbo and only recently started getting better by trying to fix the gear gap and class balancing but only 2 years to late to fix the irreparable damage
Lol, I enjoy BDO but that game looks like shit outside of a 20m radius around you.
Asmongold literally is in love with the game now 😂
He wants to marry a cat girl to Yshtola LOL
He’s making bank lol. Who wouldn’t
@@richardkim3652 I mean, who wouldn't.
@@SparkShadow212 True that.
@@richardkim3652 Yoshlata*
24:00 is still reade comments summit. so if she is more into casual then ff14 has alot of options for that like crafting, house decorating and such. plus in endwalker personal islands are coming where base on info so far its where you can grow crops, raise animals and display pets/mounts. ff14 covers all grounds for hardcore pvp/pve to casual pvp/pve or just pure casual by gathering, craft, decorate and such.
Summit's Reaction = dead horse
I loved all of arr. I'm sure the rest is better because I just finished arr but I was a fun run.
16:10 from my experience im fine with core ff14 quests but if ppl wanna fast track to heavenswards then focus on main quests which they will indicate which one is it. if cant go on cause of lvl then focus on class quests. if out of class quests and not enough lvl for main then do feature quests that unlock features in game. with at bottom is side quests/hunts as just filler.
22:29 Why is Judd wearing starter gear at lvl 55? XD
Probably glamour?
I dunno if anyone has said this, but the raid bosses are all from the main story, or major side stories. BUT, the high end content, the extreme modes and savages and stuff. Those are all framed as what if scenarios. What if you had fought this boss, but he was way stronger, and also your character's special ability to read minds didn't work, so most of the aoe markers for mechanics don't show up. They even factor a little bit of storytelling and world building into the fact that there are hard modes for bosses. It's neat, if a little tropey at times.
Oh, and then I watched further and Jesse himself explained that. Sigh.
The chat is so braindead it hurts.
I recently started playing FFXIV and you can say it does a lot of things different than WoW some it does better and others worse.
But one thing that is just bullshit is that current WoW looks bad. It doesnt look realistic, yes, but i doesnt try to it has a more cartoonish style and within this style it looks great. FFXIV on the other hand tries to look realistic but doesnt achieve this at all (because old games cant really look realistic for todays standards) and even more important there is like no Anti Aliasing on the PC version which makes it look terrible in comparison.
So it might be that you prefer FFXIV looks over WoW's which is fine but if you judge it from a objective technical standpoint WoW is soooo much better looking in stuff like Anti Aliasing, Ambient Occlusion, Shadows, View Distance and Textures.
And that Summit said it looks so great (graphically) is probably because it was not fullscreen and compressed.
But beyond that its a great game and im having a good time playing it. Except for fking Lalafells WutFace
And i can only agree on the community part so far. When joined the world a random person came up and traded me two crafted pieces of gear for free and every dungeon i have played so far at least 2-3 players greeted each other and there was always people putting a "gg" in chat after the dungeon. So comparing that to my experiences in WoW i had way more negativ and toxic ppl trying to hurry me up in dungeons than nice players. But its a while since i really played low level content in WoW. FFXIV community reminds me of early Classic re-release last year or when it was.
I honestly didn't like ff14 story until shadowbringers, its a whole different ballpark. I love it so much. If u don't like the other expansions, atleast give shadowbringers a watch. With some summary videos to make sense of things of course
6:40 that dude reminds me of the kid from south park who plays WoW 24/7
I thought Asmon chat is cancer, but damn this chat is worse
there is one WoW streamer that try FF14 that bring alot of haters and toxicity. Why you play this shit game etc. Basicly shit on other culture. Thats how WoW community act all the time. Asmon chat is not better since the people following are like obsessed with him ^^. Spoiling everything in chat even he dont want to. (proabably people that quit WoW) because you the habit of them.
Summit looking at this game with the intention of hooking his girl rather than himself is the most respectable thing to see
I’ve never watched a summit stream but I love watching the videos of him reacting to stuff for some reason
i played wow for 2 years. it was toxic. i just started playing 14 2 days ago and so far everyone has been nice. game is so good. love the story
Nice for now. Wait til you’re doing extremes, savages and ultimates.
@@FamousFelix08 It'd be dumb to do savage or ultimate with randoms. Find a consistent group.
The real "hidden toxicity" in FFXIV is actually being overly kind. It loops all the way back to being overly sensitive, because the tiniest little offense can get you suspended. And account suspensions are permanent flags. As a result, people often flatout refuse to give advice, because it's met with "don't tell me how to play".
@@naoko3749 I do savage with randoms… it’s not that hard. Ultimates are different but with savages if Each person knows the mechs and roles it’ flows.
@@naoko3749 progging with randoms takes patience but overall we learn and call it when we are done
This dude has the perfect voice to do youtube videos about this stuff. At the beginning I was thinkin sumsumbabysystem was watchin a youtube video.
interesting watching this after watching him stream it.
Skipped the conclusion .-.
Why are WoW stans crying so much when he's literally not biased? twitch chat full of manchild
I've played both games and what he said was true, both pros and cons on both ends.
My favorite part of FFXIV was doing T9 savage before Heavensward came out
Take a drink every time they say, “Too much anime.” Or make an anime related excuse as to why they don’t like it.
Fellas, is it wrong for a game to be anime?
And fellas, is it final fantasy 14 really *that* anime? Okay maybe a bit.
Hey, dude. I'm a little biased, I admit, but if you are looking to get your girl into something that has all the elements of an MMO, without all the hardcore just in your face all the time, FFXIV is the perfect game. A lot of people just login every day to socialize. Hang out doing fishing, hanging out at your friends personal house, or passing time by playing games at the Golden Saucer. The developers really put a lot of things you can do in this game that ISN'T all about the fighting and grinding. It's more chill and laid back. But once you're ready to don that armor and that weapon, there is plenty of fighting to do too. And then there is the story, of course. I actually think both of ya'll would love it.
Jesse Is a real internet OG great video
Summit is so baked I fuckin love it...
Here is the problem , its you who are still playing, or atleast played Shadowlands, and sadly im one of you. We are just as much the reason that WoW is what it is as Blizzard. In what universe where Warlords was so bad can the next expansion hit records in sales, and then after the most horrible expansion BFA can the following expansion (Shadowlands) hit record sales? I know that we hold on to hope that the next game atleast would be better, and maybe can be what it once was, but that will NEVER!! BE THE CASE! It gives the mesage and impression to Blizzard that they can forget what happend in the past and continue their bullshit game development. If we STOP playing the game and move on to other MMO just as FF, New World or Ashes for example, then thats the biggest reason we will give Blizzard ro rethink everything and actually do something for once. I as for 1 month ago unsubbed wow and uninstalled it. Have been having a blast with FFXIV.
I really hope you big streamers can help out us little streamers that have been playing and streaming FFXIV for a long time now. It is so nice that the game is finally getting the attention it deserves it also sucks for all of us small streamers who have been trying so hard to get a following. We might not be as expressive as you guys are but we have been passionate about this game since it's release. But with all you big guys here us little guys are getting totally drowned out.
the rising tide raises all ships, you might have to change your streaming hours a bit, but these big streamers are mainly bringing over large audiences that would have never watched FFXIV beforehand
Asmon's been getting those view numbers because he's willing to (and seems to enjoy) beat his head against a wall repeatedly in order to beat content. It's the symptom of being an old mmo raider. There's not a lot of streamers that are willing to publicly fail repeatedly to get that one success. His reactions to wipe after wipe is also hilarious.
I've played FFXIV since about 2017 and I really enjoyed it. Once you get past the slow ass start and get into the cool raids and dungeons and story and shit it really gets fun. I stopped playing a while back tho cuz once you level up your characters and reach the end of the story for this season the game gets repetitive. You just do the same raids and dungeons over and over again to grind gear level and that gets boring to me
Theres plenty of other things to do. You just got to get creative. IF raiding is the only thing. then yeah, your gonna get bored. Plenty of titles to hunt for, finish the exploration journal, max out classes, do crafting, dungeon crawls, treasure hunts, level your companion, do minion fights, gold saucer stuff, pvp, mount farms, etc.
@@gliath888 I mean, you just described 'Grinding for different things, but still in a repetitive fashion' which isn't exactly going to interest him if he's not into that. There's nothing wrong with that sort of grinding (assuming the player enjoys it) but its still grinding o.0
@@TuffMelon bruh if you think every little feature in a MMO is a grind, i dont know what to tell you. Every thing is repetitive in the mmo sphere. Its called a gameplay loop. Wether its fun or not is up to the user and how well done the content was.
FF14 i did a story skip during the 2.4 story line because i couldnt take the realm reborn story and it was worth the 11 dollars.
1:34 Even back when WoW came out, I never saw the appeal aesthetically...
man i really hope he dives into this game
Same
Not me, at the beginning of the vid it seems like he's only interested in the amount of viewers it would bring.
Ff14 community too toxic to streamers like this. Look at asmongold for example. He was sniped the moment he logged. Thanks to the developers it was saved.
@@tekamer6566 why do you act like this never happened in every mmorpgs asmon plays? People did the same shit when he was playing ashes of creation (sure there werent as many players but its cause the game isnt as accessible). Plus the majority of the trolls were sprouts which were most likely people who downloaded the game just to fuck with asmon.
@@tekamer6566 that happens with every game And not just FFXIV.
So easy to spot the WoW fanboys in chat they're smoking so much copium saying that WoW is better, even saying that TBC is better, get BiS and log back next raid tier fun fun fun
Did they change unlocking flying in arr? I basically completed the arr 1.0 and flying was unlocked
Only for ARR zones, you still have to get all of the aether currents in the rest of the expansions
WOW makes me not want to play it because all I've seen for FIFTEEN YEARS is players treating it as the only game and shit talking literally everything else while acting elitist. The vocal playerbase for a decade plus has made me not care. FF14 welcomed dam near everyone and only in response to shit talking started shit talking back. Lately they're doing it more but that's because the tables flipped so some feel empowered to act the same which isn't really good but obvious why.
to be honest.........i think its majory wow players who switched a while ago and are just loud now because they want there blind and deft brothers from wow to enjoy a game and want to go at them for it, i think its from a place of love.
i beta tested ffxivAAR and i played ffxiv 1.0 i still play ffxi now comming up on my 20th year, and almost NO ONE from the old guard has ever cared to come at wow players and talk shit, iv only defended it a few times in game..
but during my ffxiv play time iv only see this surge in the last year or two, and i do think most of it is coming from jaded wow players who found ffxiv and love it and want to tell the wow players living in a dead husk of a game that was world of warcraft, that they can move on and enjoy playing a game.
but thats just what i get from watching streams from wow players like asmon and the history of chat in game in xiv
@@aaronclay4665 It is not from a place of love. I absolutely agree its from probably ex-WoW players, but no. Definitely not from love.
Its just the people who are insecure about their own preferences so they try to reinforce it by constantly shitting on people who go a different way.
People are just like that. Go into any new MMO that launches and the General chat for the first week or so is just constantly shitting on WoW. Even if those dense fuckers literally stopped playing WoW the day before and probably will go back to WoW with the next xpac, they still act all high and mighty about it.
This makes me want to buy a better pc and play FF.
`Should be fine if you can run WoW. WoW is really unoptimized actually.
FF can be played on the Potato Ps4, Im sure your PC can run it fine lol
I can run WoW at low settings. And yes my pc is literal potato. I don't want to waste time downloading only to find out i cant play.
@@TacticalBe You can download the benchmark which is only 2 gigs compared to the game which is like 50gb+
@@TacticalBe time to upgrade my dude.
I never once have felt that ive missed anything from buying the skip. Ever once.
Wow = jealous ex girlfriend and FFIXIV = nicest boyfriend ever
lel so many people trying to capitalize on Asmon's major succes with FF streams
Yeah.. As if it'd be the game.. even FF people are surprised how entertaining he is.. I think even Asmon is surprised..
@@m0nk3yscr4tch yea i played final fantasy 11 in 2003 it was my firs mmo and i never gave wow a chance because i thought it was a toony kiddy game(i was 24 at the time) i played ff11 for 20 years now, and i heard asmongolds name years back and just heard from word of mouth tha the was toxic af, and then i watched him, and found out the dude is just entertains to watch, i play ff14 gave wow a chance in 2013ish and hated it, but i watch asmon to this day even tho i know nothing of wow, aside from whats on his screen lol.
dudes is just a good watch, regardless of what game he plays
We got him, boyz.
FF14 is better then WoW in every way... even Asmon said it and he is fucking enjoying the game to its max lol.
@@MrKnaives He said it's more responsive and fluid. But he did say combat in WoW is ugly and combat in FF14 is more flashy and impactful.
Keep in mind that asmon only have the lvl 50 skills so far as well
I would love to have summit join the community
Ive played wow since day one BC and im here to tell you FF14 is amazing! Dont get me wrong I had my fun with wow but since BFA I just dont have the passion anymore so as long as FF keeps up what there doing Ill be a customer .
11:30 Its my boy mithrie Pog
I've said this before but he clearly hasn't played the hard content. If nothing else his non existent key binds show that.
@@MrKnaives That he claims that WOW is harder which it's not. The hardest mythic is barely on the level of the easiest ultimate.
Wow shot themselves in the foot with little to no change over the last 3 xpac now legion was fantastic espicially after how bad wod was, bfa was okay most of the same, shadowlands is just a repainted legion/bfa. Cant create the same game for 7 years and expect to maintain players.
I love how you parrot all the things that everyone says yet just like them you don’t play the game.
@@tekamer6566 but everyone says them for a reason?
@@tekamer6566 As someone who played WoW for the last ten years and am progging heroic Sanctum simply because of being in a guild of enjoyable people (While also playing FFXIV time to time), I absolutely agree with Jeesh.
WoD, Legion, BFA and Shadowlands all feel like they were trying to grab the initial hype from players of old again. WoD being back in Draenor and Legion adding Demon Hunters and Illidan feels like they were trying to get old BC fans back, BFA and its nonsensical faction conflict escalation feels like it was trying to get old Vanilla fans back, and while shadowlands is a bit more of a stretch, the connection to ICC and the Helm of Domination feels like trying to get old Wrath fans back. Trust me, I half expect one of the bosses in the final tier to be Arthas in some form. You just wait.
Chat then: This is some weeb shit.
Chat now: Kupo!
I think summit would love this game tbh. Its up his alley for sure.
Rofl . Summit is a competitive pvper . There is nothing competitive in FFxiv.
@@DaeDraaH.DeaDwooD Summit is a gamer first and foremost i mean what is gta rp? Think thats competitive?
@@DaeDraaH.DeaDwooD the feast is the sweaty pvp and it just depends on if summit would like playing how pvp functions.
otherwise pve content savage and ultimates are really hard. Ultimates being the hardest in any mmo ive played for raiding in over 19 years.
@@DaeDraaH.DeaDwooD FFXIV has a very competitive raid scene
I think sum sum would enjoy ff
I doubt he will stick with it, maybe if he plays together with his girlfriend, but I hope he tries it anyway.
But from his time with ESO, im not totally sure MMOs are his cup of tea. But the RP potential of FFXIV is far greater than ESO and the skills and story is much better too so maybe it clicks?
I'm looking forward to it xD
He tried it before back in 2019 I think
@KonaGaming he did his character name csgo isded
Nor the chat or the streamer paying attention to the video 😂