This and That: Grand Prix Assignments with Meagan Duhamel

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  • čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
  • The ISU released the 2019-20 Grand Prix Assignments and Meagan Duhamel joins us to break down all of the assignments for Yuzuru Hanyu, Alina Zagitova, Evgenia Medvedvea, Shoma Uno, Nathan Chen, Vincent Zhou, Alena Kostornaia, Alexandra Trusova, Anna Shcherbakova, Papadakis and Cizeron, Sui and Han, Hubbell and Donohue, Elizabet Tursynbaeva and more!
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Komentáře • 206

  • @nataliemizell2632
    @nataliemizell2632 Před 5 lety +111

    Time Stamps
    0:44 Last year’s Grand Prix predictions with Megan
    1:13 Megan’s life, move from Montreal to Toronto
    5:32 Going from competitors to coaching with peers (KMT and Michael)
    8:37 Canadian death spiral technique
    10:13 Eric’s plans
    10:48 Practicalities of skating while pregnant/having a young baby
    13:10 Grand Prix assignments
    LADIES
    21:20 Russian ladies (Alina Z vs Alena K, Medvedeva vs Trusova)
    25:15 Skate America: Mariah Bell vs Eunsoo, U.S ladies - Gracie, Karen, Megan Wessenburg, Megan thinks U.S. uses their “TBD” spot well
    28:05 Skate Canada: Korean ladies, China taking CoC back instead of Korea, China prepping venues for Olympics, Alaine Chartrand retiring?, Gabby Daleman coaching situation, Canadian girls for TBD spot - Veronik, Aliston Schumacker, Conrad Orzel’s sister, Cricket club as more than just a skating club, Trusova vs Rika Kihira
    34:11 France: Maria Sotskova?, Marin Honda, Japan’s federation and how they watch/monitor during the summer
    36:22 Tursynbaeva, how much attention Eteri will give her
    37:40 Ting Sui - GP assignments, injury updates
    MEN
    38:35 Skate America (benefits of Las Vegas location), Skate Canada (easier field), guesses for U.S. TBD men’s spot (Andrew Torgashev)
    42:00 Summer strategy, how to build throughout the season
    44:20 France, NHK: Torgashev, Tomoki vs Jason, Daisuke, Vincent
    PAIRS
    48:11 Skate America: weaker field, Denny/Frazier and maximizing points
    50:00 Skate Canada - Tarasova/Morozov with Marina/Charlie, KMT/Michael vs Luba/Charlie, Alexa/Chris (beginning of end, or beginning of something new), TBD spot to Evelyn/Trent?
    53:35 Tang/Yang new Chinese team, Austrians with John Zimmerman training camp, Europeans lose ice during summer
    54:15 Battle of the Blades - airs live, Vanessa can only skate GP if she’s eliminated early
    56:55 CoC - Sui/Han GP in the past, what do they need to do to continue improving
    59:06 NHK is deepest field, Mishina / Galiamov, Yu/Zhang missing, North Koreans only have 1 GP
    DANCE
    1:00:52 - Weaver/Poje retiring, Canada’s 3 spots at Worlds
    1:03:50 - 1:09:25 Many short ice dance mentions (Tiffany/Jonathan, Smart/Diaz, CanaDanes vs Hawayek/Baker, Marjorie/Zach,Caroline Green teaming up with Michael Parsons, Hubbell/Donahue, Importance of senior B’s for ice dancers to get early feedback on their levels, Papadakis Cizeron)
    1:09:25 Megan skating again, post Olympics trajectory
    1:11:20 Kids of skaters
    1:13:45 Skate Oakville Pairs program
    1:15:05 Skype technicalities
    1:16:20 Starr Andrews
    1:17:15 How fans experience off-season
    1:20:40 Karen Chen GP predictions
    1:22:34 U.S. ladies - Megan W, Starr, Amber Glenn, Gracie Gold, Hanna Harrell as junior vs senior
    1:28:10 Zagitova vs Kostornaia (Butyrskaya - DAVE SAYS NOTHING IN SKATING IS NEW)
    1:30:30 Jonathan going to China, Dave’s thoughts on China
    1:33:47 Weaver/Poje retiring
    1:42:10 Chock and Bates
    1:43:50 Green / Parson age difference
    1:44:25 Solbova’s partner from France, Didier
    1:46:11 Rock the Rink vs Battle of the Blades
    1:48:10 Kaitlyn Weaver’s insta post again, Canada’s not in a good place
    1:49:27 US is not in a good place (Mishin’s comment about Bradie)
    1:50:18 Eteri’s camp (side by side cantilever with Shoma)
    1:53:25 1995 Worlds on Patreon

  • @Clara-yn4jb
    @Clara-yn4jb Před 5 lety +34

    Ok Shoma could have a good influence on these Eteri girls in some ways, but lets not do revisionist history here. Trusova was doing that same extended arch-back cantilever in her exhibition routine this year (go watch it if you don't believe me), she didn't just watch Shoma's and magically become better. Her one in the sp is great too but the ex one where she has time is amazing.

  • @LostGirlLostGirl
    @LostGirlLostGirl Před 5 lety +32

    I think the reason why Kostonaya and Zagitova are together is that they both need later start. Kostonaya had an injury and Zagitova was in show in May-June and didn't train with the group

  • @gtestkey
    @gtestkey Před 5 lety +32

    I think you misunderstood what Mishin meant when he called Bradie hard worker. You see in Russia promising skaters get everything for free, time on ice, high level coaches, ammunition etc. So many russian coaches including Eteri admitted the difference of non russian students that have to pay for everything on their own. While russian students even at top level can waste their training session time by pretending fixing their skates or fulling around non russian ones value every minute of training session.
    Russian coaches often yell at kids "work harder!". So saying about someone the he/she is a really hard worker is like a best compliment you can get.

  • @oboegoesquackquack
    @oboegoesquackquack Před 5 lety +33

    When you immediately look for timestamps and then realize you're early for once and the video has only been out for 20 minutes😂

  • @yosily
    @yosily Před 5 lety +40

    aww don’t blur your backgrounds! I love looking out Jonathan’s window with all the trees :P

  • @kihyeok
    @kihyeok Před 5 lety +41

    So excited! I've been loving all the off season content you guys have been providing

    • @TheSkatingLesson
      @TheSkatingLesson  Před 5 lety +1

    • @tb4522
      @tb4522 Před 5 lety +4

      It is nice! Can you guys do an ep on people's music choices too? Maybe during a slow week? Lol.

  • @aleksandrapaka6267
    @aleksandrapaka6267 Před 5 lety +19

    Hey guys, I'm from Poland. So Ekaterina Kurakova used to skate in Russia, but polish figure skating assosiation really would like her to represent our country. I also want it, she is such a lovely skater

    • @TheSkatingLesson
      @TheSkatingLesson  Před 5 lety

      Thank you!

    • @LaChicaMadrilena
      @LaChicaMadrilena Před 5 lety +3

      I saw her in January at Mentor Cup in Toruń (the event where we saw Chock/Bates for the first time that season), she did an EX number. Lovely skater and a really cute girl, she said a few sentences in Polish and said she was very excited to be representing Poland. She actually won the Polish championships but naturally couldn’t compete internationally. Kaliszek/Spodyriev’s coach, who was running that gala, said that Katya had like 3 quads but I wasn’t sure if she was being serious. I remember Zhenya talking very warmly about her but I don’t know where I read that.

    • @Julia-js7bs
      @Julia-js7bs Před 5 lety +1

      I'm curious, how can she decide to represent Poland? I thought you can only represent countries whose citizenship you have? Is she half-polish?

    • @Amy-bl8sp
      @Amy-bl8sp Před 5 lety +3

      @@Julia-js7bs Only for the Olympics do you have to be a citizen of the country you represent. To compete internationally for another country at any other competition, all you really have to do is get permission from your current country to be "released". Sometimes that can be immediate (Canadanes), or it can take years (Bruno Massot) or even never if the two countries involved have some kind of disagreement about it.

    • @noran7809
      @noran7809 Před 5 lety +2

      I suppose I would be excited if this girl was called e.g. Katarzyna Kurakowska ...By the way I really like and admire Russian girls ...

  • @TheLawgirlie
    @TheLawgirlie Před 5 lety +17

    I love the dynamic between the three of you! I do want to see the dynamic with Bruno included, sometime soon in the future.

  • @erin750i
    @erin750i Před 5 lety +32

    I just love Meagan. I NEED to see her in the kiss and cry as a coach. It’s going to be wonderful!

  • @rop888
    @rop888 Před 5 lety +9

    Have to disagree that Eteri won't care about Tursynbaeva anymore. She had to love everyone saying she can fix anyone (Shoma is next). And there's about a 99% chance Evgenia goes nowhere this year while Tursy is on the rise with Eteri. Nothing better than twisting the knife a bit. And she takes nothing away from any of her students either.

    • @KiffiStinkt
      @KiffiStinkt Před rokem

      This comment aged like milk 😂😂 seeing that she had one Big Moment with winning that silver at worlds and thanks to Eteri won’t compete ever again

  • @blinky7046
    @blinky7046 Před 5 lety +10

    It'll be interesting to watch how the Japanese ladies do in the Grand Prix even though Rika would likely be the only one that has the technical firepower to make the final and compete for a medal. For most of them it's more about gaining momentum and peaking for nationals, which is probably Satoko's strategy by doing Cup of China and Rostelecom back to back in November. The Kaori vs. Wakaba matchups in Skate America and France, and Satoko vs. Mai in China will be key to watch. Yuna Shiraiwa can enter the conversation if she breaks the 200 point barrier and places above Kaori or Wakaba in France or Satoko in Russia. I do hope that Rika can medal in the final, otherwise she'll lose momentum and would be at a disadvantage having to peak at nationals just two weeks later.

    • @ColonelGreen
      @ColonelGreen Před 5 lety +1

      As Satoko was the sixth seed, she had no choice over where she went (beyond maybe trying to talk Rika and Kaori into helping her out). She got whatever was left over.
      Same with Hubbell/Donohue this year; they didn't *choose* to skate back-to-back events; indeed, they might have been expecting that Sinitsina/Katsalapov would take SCI, but instead the Russians chose to skate back-to-back in China and Rostelecom, which forced H/D to do the same.

    • @blinky7046
      @blinky7046 Před 5 lety +1

      Even so, I think the GP assignments worked out well for Satoko. It did her no good to have her best performance last year at Skate America just to finish 6th at GPF and 3rd at nationals. With an even more competitive ladies field this year, her first choice in GP events wouldn't really increase her chances at making the GPF anyway. What she can do however, is perform respectably in both GPs and use the one month break to peak at nationals to get 1st or 2nd.

  • @cyrra8865
    @cyrra8865 Před 5 lety +10

    As someone who lives in Vegas, I really hope I can run into some of the skaters on the streets lol

  • @sophiahlavaty855
    @sophiahlavaty855 Před 5 lety +23

    does anyone know why Kostornaya wasn't in the photo with Shoma? i was looking forward to seeing them together because Kostornaya always speaks highly of him

    • @027dramaqueen
      @027dramaqueen Před 5 lety +3

      probably just working on choreographing her short or long

    • @caprisun4883
      @caprisun4883 Před 5 lety +5

      I believe she was working in a different training session group (due to the team being so large they have several sessions with separate groups) based on when she’s getting choreo and what exactly she is working on.

    • @rachelguapa11
      @rachelguapa11 Před 5 lety +2

      I find more suspicious that she didn't post anything with him...

  • @jcaslove1
    @jcaslove1 Před 5 lety +9

    The Grand Prix fields for pairs are so uneven, in part because of Vanessa and Morgan's 5th place at Worlds. Some of the fields are pretty empty and NHK Trophy is completely stacked. There has to be a better way to balance the fields.

    • @TheSkatingLesson
      @TheSkatingLesson  Před 5 lety +2

      Any way you slice it, it will always be somewhat unfair because the rankings are imperfect and based on three years. Vanessa and Morgan really blew it by finishing 5th at Worlds, but pairs is also rather deep with top teams.

    • @lindaallison5338
      @lindaallison5338 Před 5 lety

      @@TheSkatingLesson I can't deal with this level of candour...

  • @027dramaqueen
    @027dramaqueen Před 5 lety +14

    "And then who is the fake Polish girl who's really Russian" lmao

  • @ruth7685
    @ruth7685 Před 5 lety +6

    what a treat for our saturday evening! i’ve been looking forward to this one since they were released. thanks guys!

  • @clairp2716
    @clairp2716 Před 5 lety +5

    Love the 3 of you together! Almost 2 hours is a bonus. Thank you!!

  • @TimSirin
    @TimSirin Před 5 lety +23

    What is this portrait mode filter Meghan has going on.... fancy

    • @TheSkatingLesson
      @TheSkatingLesson  Před 5 lety +8

      We discuss it in the second part. It's a new skype setting that she didn't know she hit! We used it in the second part!

  • @timcarwinski8142
    @timcarwinski8142 Před 5 lety +12

    Oh yay! Perfect occasion for Meagan to guest host!

  • @jeannez2573
    @jeannez2573 Před 5 lety +5

    About the China city Chongqing, if you know the Hong Kong romantic movie Chungking Express, Chongqing = Chungking, this is how it's pronounced.

    • @Jontor11
      @Jontor11 Před 5 lety

      And according to Wikipedia it is the world's biggest municipality with 30 million people.

  • @027dramaqueen
    @027dramaqueen Před 5 lety +17

    please do the tutberidze pyramid !

  • @twinklejelly123
    @twinklejelly123 Před 5 lety +8

    I've just discovered Dance Moms (I know, what have I been doing with my life?) and am all over the Eteri T pyramid idea. It will be delightfully brutal. Bring it, gents.

  • @skatefan78
    @skatefan78 Před 5 lety +4

    FYI -- Sarah and TJ have to go senior internationally this year because Sarah turned 19 this past September (well before the July 1st cutoff for this current season) so she's age ineligible for juniors starting this season...

  • @Patrick-vj1qu
    @Patrick-vj1qu Před 5 lety +15

    Love the three of you together! Btw I would sell my soul to have arms like Meagan's :)

  • @kikukoshinchi320
    @kikukoshinchi320 Před 5 lety +4

    I think Evgeny Plushenko has three sons. The youngest one, Sasha is his only biological one though. The older ones are his wife’s sons with her previous partner and maybe they never picked up skating in their early years.

    • @LostGirlLostGirl
      @LostGirlLostGirl Před 5 lety +3

      He has two biological sons. The older son (Egor Ermak) is with his previous wife. They had painful divorce process.
      And yes, two sons of his current wife do live with their mother and Evgeniy

    • @kikukoshinchi320
      @kikukoshinchi320 Před 5 lety +3

      LostGirlLostGirl Thank you for the information.

  • @sk8tenn
    @sk8tenn Před 5 lety +2

    Cup of China is in Chongqing, which is a huge city of over 30 million people bordering Sichuan Province (used to be a part of Sichuan). Chongqing is one of the cities like Beijing and Shanghai that are administratively on the same level as a province. It will be great for Sichuan cuisine. I think it could be really interesting to visit.

  • @Karlinberlin1
    @Karlinberlin1 Před 5 lety +6

    I miss Gracie. But, the jump rotations are slow. I'd hate another COR.

  • @Lucywangviolin
    @Lucywangviolin Před 5 lety +9

    I see a video from TSL, I hit like

  • @goldburnm
    @goldburnm Před 5 lety +7

    Thanks for bringing Meagan back!

  • @AudreySu13
    @AudreySu13 Před 5 lety +11

    i have a feeling kostornaia might end up like tsurkaya...the eteri method has proven v dangerous for skaters with proper jumps, plus the injury

    • @Frooti.loopz23
      @Frooti.loopz23 Před 5 lety +3

      I really hope not :(

    • @LostGirlLostGirl
      @LostGirlLostGirl Před 5 lety

      They have completely different body types. Tsurskaya is very tall and Kostornaya is very small. By defition it is easier for Kostornaya to keep working jumps than it was for Tsurskaya

  • @nicmayer4645
    @nicmayer4645 Před 5 lety +2

    (1) Love Meagan as a guest! She's awesome!
    (2) Loved the discussion of Weaver/Poje. Given the odd announcement (or lack thereof) there really has been a dearth of articles and information.

  • @greggcrandall2747
    @greggcrandall2747 Před 5 lety +2

    Dave and Johnathan, Chongquin is a huge ancient city in the interior of China that maybe you know as "Chungking" (the old English pronunciation). I think you'l like it. See you at Cup of China :)

  • @lindatatum8921
    @lindatatum8921 Před 5 lety +11

    Go Yuzuru.

  • @natsul3319
    @natsul3319 Před 5 lety +9

    Ting... T_T Poor girl needs to heal and take time to take command of her skating and not let her father meddle too much. Parents meddling too much and thinking they can coach better than actual coaches never ends well... this is so infuriating. Now it all makes sense as to why she did not attend any of the jumping based camps during the summer.

  • @olgaavdeeva8216
    @olgaavdeeva8216 Před 5 lety +1

    Videos with Meagan are the best, the least biased.

  • @DSQueenie
    @DSQueenie Před 5 lety +2

    I’m already enraptured and I’m only five minutes in! Thanks for the vid. xx

  • @corgeousgeorge
    @corgeousgeorge Před 5 lety

    Dave in an aside, "You have to fire your agent" then when it wasn't noticed, Dave again, "You need to fire your agent." lol. OMG Dave gives me such life!

  • @sschimel
    @sschimel Před 5 lety +1

    You mentioned Maria Buterskaya! A woman who couldn't bend her knees for a jump landing if her life depended on it.

  • @seleneh7675
    @seleneh7675 Před 5 lety +18

    A. Zagitova WILL get higher PCS than A. Kostornaia, even on A. Zagitova's off day. Not that she deserves it.

    • @TheSkatingLesson
      @TheSkatingLesson  Před 5 lety +6

      I agree

    • @seleneh7675
      @seleneh7675 Před 5 lety +6

      @@TheSkatingLesson Too bad this happened after this new video was filmed... maybe for your next video - instagram.com/p/BzBl2OghM6C/

    • @helenaprout1061
      @helenaprout1061 Před 5 lety +8

      @@seleneh7675 omg that's crazy!
      I don't want people blaming Alina because I'm not a fan of her skating but even I can tell that she probably had nothing to do with it and that Danill should take the blame for it.
      Yes people take inspiration from each other all the time (e.g. Medvedeva with Osmonds black dress and white shirt), but that is a far cry from actually stealing somebody else's choreography down to the hand movement's for an entire routine and not giving them the slightest bit of credit.

    • @jesuisleslie8509
      @jesuisleslie8509 Před 5 lety +4

      Selene H ...this is media frenzy! Jojo is blaming she got “stole”. I wonder she asked for cover dance choreography copyrights from Billie Eillis too?? 🤔 At least Jojo should give credit, for the fact she is being known because of the “stole” step sequence. Which is happen to be only at the beginning 🤓

    • @rop888
      @rop888 Před 5 lety +2

      Alina will be reaching max PCS next season honestly. Nobody is going to come close to her in PCS.

  • @jijodobbas
    @jijodobbas Před 5 lety +3

    Nice episode! I hope next time that the guests audio would be a bit louder or the hosts audio a little less loud ;)

  • @KatsumiManami
    @KatsumiManami Před 5 lety +1

    rusfed is pitting kosto and zagi to decide who they'll support and drop. medvedeva is always a favorite, has fed and big names backing her up and trusova is the new star, they purposefully put the "artistic vs technical" for their case. but for kosto vs zagi, kosto is always consistent and she isnt growing up so i'd say zagi is the one in danger.

  • @amandarenshaw5861
    @amandarenshaw5861 Před 5 lety +4

    I think it’s still too early to give Gracie a GP 🤔

  • @jessicamay952
    @jessicamay952 Před 5 lety +1

    Tang/Yang were Juniors last year. They were 4th at Junior Worlds.

  • @erinsheley
    @erinsheley Před 5 lety +2

    LOL..."there's no way Stolbova can do...any of this."

  • @a9029k
    @a9029k Před 5 lety +4

    Meagan looks so good pregnant. Hopefully she keeps the weight on

  • @50781975
    @50781975 Před 5 lety +3

    Eteri and I know what is going on! Classic

  • @Jontor11
    @Jontor11 Před 5 lety

    Jonathan, you HAVE to go to Cup of China and Chongqing, the largest city in the world (30 million people, big as Austria), but the city no one ever heard of...and we would expect a full report later:-)

  • @shingtome2179
    @shingtome2179 Před 5 lety +1

    Hm since you have an insider at the city where Hanyu trains (Meagan Duhamel), we'll have to get some inside scoop or an interview of some sort from Brain Orsers troop

  • @starsmoon0216
    @starsmoon0216 Před 5 lety +1

    I think Chock & Bates are going to make a big resurgence this season.

  • @vicserra2485
    @vicserra2485 Před 5 lety +8

    GREAT VIDEO¡¡ and just today it happen another BIG drama¡¡ Danil stolen the choreo of Alinas ex from a famous choreographer, we have to wait ona week for your opinion, but really i hope this is a good reason for alina get a new choreographer,¡¡¡

    • @moonjer9777
      @moonjer9777 Před 5 lety +6

      I hope she does, she deserves better Daniil has his ego over the clouds ... I hope Eteri be a bitch/witch with him Lol 😆

    • @hana.372
      @hana.372 Před 5 lety +4

      Agree ,Alina need experience with another choreogrpher.

    • @ericawashington310
      @ericawashington310 Před 5 lety

      He stole the choreography? From who?

    • @vicserra2485
      @vicserra2485 Před 5 lety

      @@ericawashington310 jojo gomez

    • @nenavujicin7882
      @nenavujicin7882 Před 5 lety +2

      Are U serious !!!!!???? There is no better choreographer than Danil -his choreo of "Karenina" is masterpiece ("Carmen", was also great ).

  • @meghannpytka3989
    @meghannpytka3989 Před 5 lety +1

    Markova was my FAVORITE!

  • @jtangel98
    @jtangel98 Před 5 lety +3

    Jonathan, it’s not “lecherous” to be attracted to an attractive skater. Speaking of, I wish Tim Dolensky would stick around for one more season so he could get the Skate America TBD and I would definitely go to Vegas. His chest cleavage makes me feel lecherous. Just kidding. I’m not ashamed. Nathan Chen is awesome!

  • @mademsoisellerhapsody1868

    Meagan is so healthy looking - love her insight and positivity. For the record I would want NHK too!

  • @ritawang66
    @ritawang66 Před 5 lety +2

    Lmao Jonathan would love to see you at Cup of China! But I agree with everything Dave said as a Chinese native- China is a lot. And reminder you need a visa too!

    • @TY-dp8ri
      @TY-dp8ri Před 4 lety

      Rita Wang I think Dave is so arrogant and pretentious ...

  • @sueheck3124
    @sueheck3124 Před 5 lety +1

    I Love Meagan, she really adds to the discussion. I hope she will become a semi regular for This and That.

  • @owlishart2335
    @owlishart2335 Před 5 lety +1

    lol 1:49:53 - "hard working" vs "talented" google Carol Dweck's research on growth and fixed mindset. The fact that Mishin used the expression "hard working" rather than "talented" says more about Mishin as a coach rather than about Bradie as a skater. (Your opinion on those two phrases also says something about you :P ) I'm sure Mishin just wanted to say something nice about Bradie. Being hard working is not a bad thing in Russian culture. He's not an English native speaker, don't analyze his English words too deeply ;)

  • @iosebdzamukashvili5360

    Amazing review ❣ love you guys! Watching from Riga Int'l Airport flying to Tbilisi, Georgia.

  • @BillyWhaler
    @BillyWhaler Před 5 lety

    Prediction: Madison Chock’s performance beats Meryl Streep for an Oscar next February. She will glide up the red carpet under a golden LA sunset, Smokey eyes and smoldering come hither stare, and gently whisper in the Grand Dame’s ear...”Do Better.”

  • @optimalrefundable
    @optimalrefundable Před 5 lety +1

    Yaaaas! Thanks y'all! ♡

  • @ColonelGreen
    @ColonelGreen Před 5 lety

    I have gone over the Grand Prix eligibility rules with a fine-toothed comb and I still have no idea how Caroline Green & Michael Parsons are eligible for a non-host pick Grand Prix spot.

  • @irenelai5247
    @irenelai5247 Před 5 lety

    tings dad just sits in the cafe of the gardens ice house and everytime she does smth wrong, he goes in and talks to her. her spins look slow and weak although her positions are very nice.

  • @skaterboy-cz9wj
    @skaterboy-cz9wj Před 5 lety +2

    I thought Maria Butyrskaya was a wonderful elegant skater and often better than irina. sorry poor analogy.

  • @saramisthal6658
    @saramisthal6658 Před 5 lety

    Omg please do the pyramids!! Meagan looks great! You guys made my day.

  • @UshastayaMrs
    @UshastayaMrs Před 5 lety +4

    Второй мужичок какой-то грустный сегодня((

  • @emmagubbels5248
    @emmagubbels5248 Před 5 lety +1

    I'm here for the Moscow pyrimad

  • @chipperterri
    @chipperterri Před 5 lety +3

    Great way to spend Sat afternoon..Skating Lesson upload with Meagan Duhamel

  • @jijodobbas
    @jijodobbas Před 5 lety +3

    Why can Trusova not quad in the short?

    • @astrobinch
      @astrobinch Před 5 lety +12

      Dustin M no quad jumps allowed in ladies short. Combination needs to be a triple combo, solo jump needs to be a triple, and axel is a double or triple.

  • @raphouice4300
    @raphouice4300 Před 5 lety

    Russian skater now skating for Poland and training in Canada : Kurakova

  • @denniscourtney3545
    @denniscourtney3545 Před 5 lety

    How does one access the Patreon (sp?) videos? I'd love to see them. Thanks! Love TSL!

  • @keelyfallis5927
    @keelyfallis5927 Před 5 lety +6

    The ladies are allowed quads in the free but not the short like the men. The sport is growing... it's like they are preventing the ladies from getting better

    • @keelyfallis5927
      @keelyfallis5927 Před 5 lety +3

      @@spicy_kitty7983 I'm not just talking about Sasha and Anna. Remember skating is a SPORT! Ladies already have artistry! Way more then the men! People thought men doing triples would RUIN their bodies back in the day. Rika is doing 3A and quads, she's 16. Elizabet is 19! First Women to land a quad in senior. Evgenia is 19 going on 20 she's going to be learning a 4S. They should be given the opportunity to do them in the short. A lot more girls are going to be doing quads in the future. Ladies sport is evolving and you are just gonna have to deal with it.

    • @milaroberts2961
      @milaroberts2961 Před 5 lety +4

      @@keelyfallis5927 i think since the quads are in such high concentration among the younger skaters, ISU will probably wait to see how these juniors fair in the senior level competition before allowing quads in the short. if you start allowing quads in the short when it's clearly only working for one specific body type/age group in skating, then there's a clear disadvantage for other skaters who haven't had time to grow and evolve with the sports because of course, when they were juniors, nobody was doing quads. And of course, being first in the short program can affect a lot in the long. Ladies skating is evolving, I just think disallowing quads in the short right now is allowing a smoother transition for older skaters who need to learn new elements after having skated the same elements for their entire life. Remember, this quad phenomenon is relatively new, maybe 2 years old. The ISU is just seeing whether it will last or not.

    • @alexanderbakulin8836
      @alexanderbakulin8836 Před 5 lety +2

      @@milaroberts2961 socialism doesn't work in sports. sports is not about protecting fat and old people. there is nothing wrong that people with certain body types have an advantage in certain sports. the idea of athletes limitation are going against olympic motto.

    • @rop888
      @rop888 Před 5 lety +1

      There's only 2 girls doing quads regularly and they were in juniors. Have to see if it's flash in the pan or not. They already have a massive advantage with their quads even among the senior ladies. I suspect they'll do a rule change after 2022 though.

  • @brushbender
    @brushbender Před 5 lety +2

    Oh man - the Eurosport commentary after Michelle Kwan's Red Violin at 2000 Worlds is forever seared into my brain - "Maybe not as good as Butyrskaya - *no one's* as good as Butyrskaya artistically."
    Just....what?!

    • @TheSkatingLesson
      @TheSkatingLesson  Před 5 lety +2

      brushbender they tend to love everyone on Eurosport and have a number of wtf moments.

    • @Jontor11
      @Jontor11 Před 5 lety

      I've learned over the years that when it comes to artistic impression, Europe and America have very different tastes. Butyrskaya was the best back then in Europe and no one really cared about Kwan.

  • @philipdrexler6226
    @philipdrexler6226 Před 5 lety

    Great show, guys! Meagan Duhamel was fantastic. She is insightful, intelligent, articulate, and engaging! Any chance she can come on more regularly than once a year now that she is moving into a more domestic existence?

  • @tylerc85
    @tylerc85 Před 5 lety

    I watched starrs long program at egna with my fiance and he just asked what went wrong? So sad..

  • @TimSirin
    @TimSirin Před 5 lety +6

    Omg Yas bish !!!!! And Meghan Yeay ahhh

  • @FalvyPollard
    @FalvyPollard Před 5 lety

    Are Polina Kostiukovich/Dmitrii Ialin moving to senior level this year?

    • @Amy-bl8sp
      @Amy-bl8sp Před 5 lety +1

      I believe they are mostly staying in juniors and will maybe do some senior b's as well.

  • @annesurur1456
    @annesurur1456 Před 5 lety

    Korean ice show: are yuna andMorgan sending us a message that they will be phasing Vanessa James out 20-21 season? The posts out of that show seem to point in that direction?? Yuna and Morgan definitely SHONE there.......

  • @Tomewatt
    @Tomewatt Před 5 lety

    Jonathon needs to sit the hell back, .. thank god I don't have 3D .. I can't sit any further back in my chair.

    • @TheSkatingLesson
      @TheSkatingLesson  Před 5 lety

      We set up the shot ahead of time. I think his camera or he may have moved.

  • @davidandrusia137
    @davidandrusia137 Před 5 lety

    I'm living for the pyramid. It must happen!

  • @Jontor11
    @Jontor11 Před 5 lety

    The Ladies events are going to be so interesting. The depth in Russia is crazy. Interesting to see how the pairings of Zagitova/Kostornaia and Medvedeva/Trusova will play out. Not to forget Shcherbakova who is competing against Tuktamysheva and Tursynbaeva in both her events. I was surprised that Sotskova and Sakhanovich got one spot each. I was sure that either Anastasia Gubanova or Anna Tarusina would get two - both of them were guaranteed at least one spot as they are in the top SB24 list, but I guess Russia ran out of spots which is crazy. And after eleven consecutive years at GP, we won't see Alena Leonova this season. And btw, Butyrskaya never did Cup of Russia, another top Russian skater who just didn't want to go there.

  • @danigtutberidzehoeszagitbl4208

    bb boy
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  • @tb4522
    @tb4522 Před 5 lety

    Why is Vincent doing Rostelecom? The way Meghan described it, as a World medalist, wouldn't he have better choices?

    • @tb4522
      @tb4522 Před 5 lety

      @LaB Right, that was my point. He got to choose before Jason, so why'd Jason get NHK?

    • @TheSkatingLesson
      @TheSkatingLesson  Před 5 lety +1

      1-2-3 get to pick and 4-5-6.

    • @tb4522
      @tb4522 Před 5 lety

      @@TheSkatingLesson That's what I thought. So, if everyone thinks of Roselelcom as the booby prize, why? Especially if he's training in Japan part time. It's just odd.

    • @PeiwenTanbassoon821
      @PeiwenTanbassoon821 Před 5 lety +2

      @@tb4522 The idea is not to have 123 at the same place. Since Nathen and Yuzuru already made their choices, Vincent only got what's left.

    • @tb4522
      @tb4522 Před 5 lety

      @Nicole Churulich Ah, thanks! I guess he still could've picked China?

  • @annfotlyan8655
    @annfotlyan8655 Před 5 lety +7

    Aside from SS, Rika's components are not better than Medvedeva

    • @twinklejelly123
      @twinklejelly123 Před 5 lety +8

      Personally I also find Evgenia's oft-exhalted performance to be hammy and one-dimensional.

    • @angieng8633
      @angieng8633 Před 5 lety +6

      Rika will have a 4S next season. She already landed one at FAOI

    • @annfotlyan8655
      @annfotlyan8655 Před 5 lety +3

      @@angieng8633 we're talking about the components.....Rika performace interpret. skills are not as great as Medvedea. Chore is in the eye of the beholder

    • @seleneh7675
      @seleneh7675 Před 5 lety +2

      Saw R. Kihira at GPF and E. Medvedeva at Skate Canada last year. I think it was Jonathan who noted that R. Kihira was surprisingly not as fast as one would assume - an observation I share. She also just needs more time to be the "performer" that captivates you and makes you not want to blink (this is my opinion, at least). For sure, her jumps were great and that 3A, fabulous! But minus the 3A, I prefer M. Mihara and S. Miyahara.
      On the other hand, E. Medvedeva was not as lethargic on the ice as one is made to believe hearing all the criticisms about her SS. Also, she really has star quality, which, maybe is the reason why she gets all the components that many argue she does not deserve (I know PCS is not "star quality" but judges are human, it is impossible their judging would not be influenced by their impressions of a skater). She really stood out, and I feel like this carries her performance and puts her above the others.

  • @fsmilka8021
    @fsmilka8021 Před 5 lety +2

    Pls! Give me time cords, someone!

  • @tb4522
    @tb4522 Před 5 lety

    Their only excited to go to Vegas, until they see the hotel there event is being held in! It's not on the Strip and is super tacky, even by Vegas standards! Lol.

    • @dannyfromthebay2940
      @dannyfromthebay2940 Před 5 lety

      It isn't too far from the strip. The arena there isn't bad. It is across the street from the palms, so stay there if you don't like the Orleans as a hotel/ Casino.

    • @tb4522
      @tb4522 Před 5 lety

      @@dannyfromthebay2940 Actually, looked it up and it's a mile down the street, but that's not a bad idea. Did the street view and damn, that's a dumpy neighborhood, yeesh!

  • @alexanderbakulin8836
    @alexanderbakulin8836 Před 5 lety +7

    i've listened just one segment about trusova, and once again there's a huge dose of ignorance. does TSL have even the slightest clue about skating? trusova was not trying to immitate shoma cantilever. and shoma cantilever is not "more beautiful". it's a bullshit cantilever. he touches the ice with his arm, while trusova is doing it in a proper way, without the help of her arms, which is ten times more difficult. shoma had a proper cantilever when he was young, but now he can't do it anymore, since he's old and rusty, he's doing only an "arm version" nowdays. so what was happening in the video, sasha was riding in her cantilever and got tired, so she looked at shoma to see why he is still going, is he tired or not, then she saw that this little cheater is riding on his arm, so she did it as well. to make sure that her cantilever will last longer. "more bend" my ass

    • @coletterobichaud3465
      @coletterobichaud3465 Před 5 lety +12

      You need to start your own channel. And then you need to watch only that channel. That's the only way you'll never have to listen to other opinions you don't share :)

    • @alexanderbakulin8836
      @alexanderbakulin8836 Před 5 lety +2

      @@coletterobichaud3465 gossips, lies, ignorance is not an opinion. they simply have no idea what cantilever is. if shoma was lying on the ice on his back they probably would say that it's the best cantilever in the world with the greatest bend. i rarely listen to TSL though, there's no need to pay attention to ignoramuses. i'm coming here just to read comments

    • @FALZOROSER59
      @FALZOROSER59 Před 5 lety +1

      “He’s old and rusty, he’s doing only an arm variation nowadays” MY ASS.
      Have you seen SOI 2019 or what?!?

    • @pastelamethyststarot4074
      @pastelamethyststarot4074 Před 5 lety

      @@alexanderbakulin8836 this is why no one likes Russians

  • @DD-d6d3
    @DD-d6d3 Před 5 lety +1

    Ads every 5 minutes. GTFO