Comparing my two Volvo 850 Rs - POV Driving Impressions
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That 5cylinder motor sounds soooo good!
daily drived one a couple of years ago. Was like stuffing butter and cream in my ears every morning
@Riku i loved it!
A bit on the expensive side for gas in Europe but it was so much fun
Check out the Volvo s60 r 2.5t
850R, BRZ, GX460.... awesome garage!! Got all situations covered ☺️
I was just about to point this out as well.
time for another night drive with the stick shift 850
Yeszir
Early congrats on 100k, pretty close to it! Also I love old Volvo’s like this, great cars, also the boxy design is amazing.
Volvo trading in a 5cyl turbo for a 4cyl superturbocharged engine is such an epic fail.
Well, the gas mileage on the 5-cyl was pretty dang awful.
Connor Piper who cares, gas mileage isn’t everything
@@brandondannys-menary3678 Volvo wants to sell cars, I hope you know.
@@brandondannys-menary3678 Considering where the future is looking to be I'd say fuel milage is high up on the list in car making and owning. It's all about the environmental effect and economics with cars nowdays.
Can you believe t5,t6,and t8 models are all 4cyl in all new volvo
I remember when I first bought my 850r, never expected a 3,000 dollar car to drop into overdrive at 115mph and keep going lol
How on earth did you get an 850 for 3k ? Very jealous.
@@Adam-7_7_7got my non r sedan for $250 lmao
Love it. I have a 850 turbo sedan project I just got for 400$ hopefully one day it's almost this fresh. Also have a non turbo wagon that's the daily cruiser. Love my Volvo's
I put bf Goodrich g force comp 2 tires on my 96 r and I love them! I went up two sizes to 225/45r17. The upgraded size paid off i love it
Great video thank you. One thing not to do that I learned on my 850R is do not replace the SRS dash indicator with a LED as it will blink every second or so which is quite annoying especially at night. I was in the dash for the odo gear fix and thought swapping out all the incandescent lamps in the dash for LEDs would be a good idea for longevity. Now I have to go back into the dash to swap at least the SRS indicator back to incandescent. The Volvo dash is not one of my favourite jobs. :-(
My S60 has a six speed. After driving through mountains this summer with it. I appreciate every gear, 6 mostly for gas mileage. It's costs at 80 getting 30 mpg
I love these old Volvos. Some of the best cars ever made. Great review btw, I really enjoyed watching it.
Anyway, I was looking to see if you have ever done a review on a Chevrolet SS (SEDAN). I did not see one. I cannot remember what brought me to your channel anymore but glad I am here I watch all your uploads and have gone back in the archives and watched quite a few of your older ones.
I was lucky enough to snag a new SS back in Oct of '16. It most likely is the last new car I buy (maybe) as I am retired. I am still in my 50's so I was drawn to that N/Aspirated engine, the LS3 in general and that 6 spd manual transmission. The last of its kind (in a sedan) in America.
If you have a video of the SS let me know or link me. I now see you do the Winding Road, I am gonna hop over there maybe that is where I found you. Does not matter, I am happy to see your material.
Thanks for sharing,
Peace.
Ive got a S70 T5 in red, just the slightly newer and lightly upgraded version of these cars. Its a wonderful car and i wouldnt sell it for anything. Love the old Volvos! I second the IPD Turboback! Sounds epic!!
To be honest, personally I would prefer the sound of the manual car. The automatic seems too noisy for me. And what a difference having a manual has. It's like it transforms the car, so much nicer, so much more control.
He changed the exhaust in the automatic. I like the quieter car, stock exhaust.
Made my heart jump seeing these, my 850 GLT was fun to drive, Volvo breaks are amazing even on the 240 of the 90s, Thanks for sharing the ride!
Both are beautiful. I'd take both in a heart beat. I'm a proud owner of 99' V70R red
Wait... I think I know where you are! You've got quite a collection, very nice builds too.
Always wanted one of these things. You da man for owning two of them. And the new owner of the '96 isn't just lucky, but smart.
Your IPD exhaust sounds from the drivers seat a lot like my P1 T5 AWD w stock duel tips. You get that rumble, that back suction growl right around 3-4k rpms. Cruising at 40mph at 3.5k when you slam on the throttle it like shoots it out, and sometimes you can get a pop. I've notice my P2 2.4T with a stock single exhaust tip doesn't have these exact sounds, but sounds very good still. And also they are two different I5s w different valve timing setups, intake manifolds and turbos. So I guess the lesson is, not all I5s are the same. Great video, sad you had to sell the AT, there's never too many Volvos you can have.....like past lovers but yo get to keep'em. Volvo for life!
Almost at a 100K on this other channel. Congrats!
Did you plan that newer XC90 parking lot encounter at the 02:40 videomark? Volvo's past meets its present incarnation.
manual swapping my 850 NA soon, so excited.
Brakes should always be FIRST if not at the top of your list, before speed. But yeah, it looks like it is in great shape overall. Congrats on the M/T
My brother keep going 100k subscribe congratulations brother
Great video - thanks for posting. Which has the most compliant ride (great handling without making your kidneys bleed, or teeth rattle)?
Loved it so spacious inside
Hey, I’m pretty sure your manual came from a guy near my neck of the woods, which is Concord NH. Great video and a lovely car. The manual 5-spd turns this car into a real beast. Enjoy!
Thanks! And it did come from Concord, bought on BaT and drove it back to MI!
The auto has reduced power
Totally agree on the stock brakes. My modified 850 Wagon makes crazy power...but the brakes!!!! Man! What brakes are you running? Please share link to video if you have one?
Nice engine sound
Try find a m66 gearbox, 6 speed. Don't know if it fits without modifications. Mayby something to think about. Also a 3" downpipe with "racecat"
Was sad to see the auto go but damn in six months you got the manual sitting pretty
Best car i have ever own. I did have -96 20 valve. And t5-r is my dream car...some day.. .
Here in Sweden and Europe some take 400-500 HP out of that engine and use it at daily driver. It's fun to see the faces of Porsche riders when you drive away from them on the autobahn.
They may think their very expensive Porsche are bad serviced or are about to break down. Who cares about a nice swedish 30 year old Volvo 850 T-5 R? 😂
The paint on the car you're selling is immaculate man. You doing similar on the new ride?
So you got a buyer.....man I sure wish it were me. But bad timing with a daughter headed to college. Hope your are Enjoying the new one!
Yeah it sold pretty fast. The only guy who came to see it in person put down a deposit the next day and bought it! Lots of interest in this car, glad it went to a good home. And it’s staying in MI
That’s great man. Look forward to seeing more content on the new one!
hey man was wondering where you got those clear turn signals on the manual, i have a 97 850 R wagon that used to be automatic and is now manual, but on ipd it looks like the clear turn signals have a euro housing so was just wondering. thanks
I like manual, because there is the stick thing you can move around, and um...
Yeah
mhm
Agreed
@@manlikeilyas :D
What watch you wearing? Looks nice.
*Nice 👍🏻, I have a black one*
After seeing a couple bikes and a 350z flying the opposite direction, I made that mountain road sing
Totalled my '98 V70 T5 and walked out without a scratch. Now have a '98 S70 T5. About to buy my son's 2000 S70 T5 manual. 😁😎
Why not take the mods to the new car?
the automatic, does it rev-match on downshift? actually can you shift gears manually?
Like the manual but the automatic has the sound 💥
These Volvo 850 R are like twins. May be a "mistake", I mean a manual instead of an automatic? Thank you for sharing! 👍
I got an 97 850 glt got any good upgrades to start with my car? Looking to put a little money into it. It just turned over 100k last week.
That's a really cool car 👌.
But it's not a Pure Grey GLI Autobahn manual that we all want you to drive for us.
Dial it in and meet me at the dragon, I'll be waiting in my '93 SHO MTX ;)
@Mahmood Y.H 4DSC??? Sounds like an early 90s(?)
@Mahmood Y.H what?! You're the man dude!! Completely stole all my glory as far as an eclectic piece of engineering hahaha B)
engine sounds sooo liitttt !!!
I recently built my olive 850R. H-beams, GLT cams etc.. with 19T and lightblue injectors (s60 T5) at about 2
0psi. I'am addicted to it!!
I am 71 years old and have a 97 850R that I have been “dialing in” for the 10 years that I have had it as my Daily driver. But the point of my comment is that I too had a 1961 Olive Green 122S (Sort of the R equivalent back in 67). It had a beautiful tan leather/vinyl interior. It was my first of 10 Volvos that we have owned. I want to thank you for the cam and injector information. Both seem to be reasonably simple upgrades. Did you have to tune the computer? Guess that I will have to search that question out. Finally, with the changes that are intended for Volvo production, it is the end to performance Volvos, so my recommendation to you would be to hold on to your 850 R for life.
The old professor
Clan Robertson That’s awesome!! I will never sell it. All my time, money & passion goes right into it. Cams can be a bit difficult if you never done it before, you have to be careful when removing the valve cover. No need for tuning with only cams, but injectors you need a tune for air/fuel. I’ll help you with your questions. You are my role model now, 71 and still rocking old Volvos!
Would it make any sense to upgrade to a 6-speed automatic transmission
I am very much in the minority here but I vastly prefer the auto in the 850R over an M56 car. I have driven several swapped ones, 2 of them done really well and it just doesn't feel the same. The auto's gear ratios in my opinion are WAYY better than the M56 that all the NA 850's got (99% sure that's what is swapped in this). The key to doing this swap well is also updating the ECU to Motronic 4.4 but almost nobody ever does that. 1998 C/S/V 70 T5M's will always drive a hair nicer right out the gate because of that. The manual swap is cool but I'd pick the auto 850R every time over the 5 speed swap. I still need to drive one with the proper ratio'd transmission from the Euro 850R (for those that don't know, 850 Turbo, T-5R, R, and T5 cars were all auto in the US but in Europe & some years in Canada you could get a manual turbo 850)
Ive owned an 850r estate in manual for 12 years but its been out of action on my drive for the last 3.I just cant bring myself to get rid of it .
Did you sold to Doug Demuro? He is looking for a good one.
Bought my T-5R manual new in June of 95...totaled it in April of 96...replaced it with a 91 740 Turbo...both of them were red...now own an '05 S60R...#IROLL
Those horrific roads remind me of the i278 hey in NYC Here . Every single mile you get a pain and then every few hundred miles you snap your neck It's lucky if not you break a rib.. But I don't hear much dun dang dang bump hitting with the manual seems the suspension and softer rather than the order has tight
I know they are less safe but there is something that just feels good about sitting in a 90s car.
I have a 98 s70 2.5 auto (had it since 2002)can't bring myself to get newer car/in sport mode its a totally different car to economy mode so quick off the mark.it's reliable but original parts are wearing out and its costing a bit to keep on the road. (I'm in scotland)
New cars are boring 😴... Volvo S 70 is a very good choice! If your local Volvo dealer is too expensive, perhaps you should have a look at Skandix's Volvo spare parts.
Carry on driving and servicing your good old brave Volvo S 70 automatic! 👍
It sounds like there’s a bit of a rev hang in between gears in the manual car, is this an issue or is that just a characteristic of these? I’ve only experienced a friend’s S70 T5 before in regards to 5 cylinder Volvos
It's the characteristics of car but the driver needs to adjust to it.
Took me a while to get used to it but a lot of people strugle to drive these fast properly.
the sound is beutifull
I got one recently, it’s my 2nd 850 Wagon, and it’s my 3rd Volvo. One word: BEAST. Don’t want to cliche it but it’s like Thor’s hammer. Raced a few idiot Vin Diesel wannabes with 1.2 litre Renaults with fart cannons for exhausts. Beat them every time, even won a race against a Skyline.
I dont know how auto car sounds in person b on video manual sounds soooooo much more better. Auto feel little bit cheap.
Can i ask you to take off last resonator and make sound check video before you take off factory exhaust?
I had one of these 20years ago it was 1995 850r
Where do u find these for sale?
You're in Michigan??
I have a c30 T5 geartronic at the moment. Beautiful engine but the gbox isnt the best. It feels lazy. Its also torque limited, so takes the bit fun out of around town driving. For the year of the car, i would have thought Volvo could have produced something better.
I wish my 97 850R had manual transmission. I'd rather have a manual because you can extract more power out of it right from the start.
this is the kinda car you saw in late 90s action/spy movies
Is the Volvo 850 same as the Volvo S70?
Lovely car - but do work on those stick shifts 😁👍
Wait my neighbor has a red one just like this :O
well, it's an easy on automatic...last forever if you take care..
you in canton?
I thought that was looking like Michigan roads.
11:25 that truck was sooo close. 😓
Why not both?
what faster manual or auto
🐐
What state are you in
What's the mpg?
I got 850 glt 1996 non turbo still good somebody hit my bumper with honda ,oh boy he just hit a tank
I’m pretty sure the GLT has a low pressure turbo. The T5s and Rs have a high pressure turbo. My V70 GLT has a low pressure turbo. These things are tanks though and I love them
Why does it sound like a Dodge Viper? Also. Pretty sick bro. You should keep them both.
well it's inline 5 same as the v10 engine.
Both suspensions sound like they are CRASHING over bumps.
you are so right
are these cars rwd?
Can confirm, wagons are very very drony with a turbo back
how easy is it to swap the transmission from an auto to a manual without a lift? What would you recommend as a manual transmission for a volvo s60/s70 to use (there a little supply of cheap manual volvos in nz)
Donut has a video on swapping a trans from auto to manual
Def think you would need a lift though
Is overtaking from right side allowed in US? So many illegal overtakes when compared to Finnish traffic laws lol. Left side should be only for overtaking here
It's not technically illegal here but i wish it was. Overtaking on the right is dangerous and way too many people do it on the highway.
i would just swap transmissions lol
Why dont car companies make more 5 cylinders, they're easily the best bang for buck in both sound, and performance in a transverse car.
modern 4-cyl has the same performance and better gas-milegae... they will always go for the money
Rocking 380mm/8-piston brakes on my car, supercar level braking power.
is the manual an M59 or m58?
@Nelson Lessard Yeah, meant M56 not M58 and I know the M59 is from the R. Just asking because the wheelspin I experienced with the M56 was unbearable, the M59 really is a good box with the gear ratios aswell.
Does anyone know why he has two? Is it just one of those situations where he had the auto first because he couldn’t find a manual, and just hasn’t gotten to selling the auto?
Exactly, except the auto sold next day!
@@TheTopher Oh congrats, can't wait to see more stuff for the manual!
Manual Speed Is best than authomatic.
The volvo did not have not scratch
Please! Do smtn with interior first! Rattles and color is just super horrible
Sell the manual to me :D
How much are you selling it for
Sold for $8901
I drive only automatic ;-)
Perfect 5cylindre motor
I already know the manual felt better to drive
Why waste money modifying one with a slushbox???🤦♂️