I wouldn't be surprised if US clandestine forces are already involved in Tarkov, as there seems to already be a narrative precedent for it. Consider all the missions conducted on behalf of Peacekeeper; you recover valuable intelligence from downed drones, assess and recover military assets from BMPs, T-90s & Strykers, operations like that have the CIA's fingerprints all over it. The US would be *VERY* interested in assessing Russian military capability, and all Peacekeeper's "contacts" or "clients" are likely to be part of the Intelligence Community. This would realistically be a perfect time to aquire said intelligence, under a guise of secrecy surrounded by the conflict which has preoccupied the Russian Federation. I believe it would be plausible for Peacekeeper's intelligence to be considered Actionable Intel to warrant a US military response in the region, which could prompt BSG's proposed Russia 2028 game in the future.
@@EULGamingYT Thanks, I appreciate the recognition. I've also liked your series on Tarkov lore you've put out for a long time, and thought putting the conflict into perspective from a geopolitical aspect would be an interesting academic exercise. Keep doing you EUL, good work!
The Black division makes the most sense for US forces. They seemed too coordinated and well trained to simply be an extra-highly trained PMC group. Furthermore, their cooperation with scav groups makes me believe that CIA was involved in the coordinated attack in the final episode of the Raid series
could also be the uk's special forces sas and the coordination doesn't really matter because every military's coordination is on point and every military is very well trained just depends on the language they speak it being english could be any military if it were one and lots of other countries have there own cia essentially
@@istoleyournoodle4168 true, but with US’s nature of consistently getting themselves involved in every major conflict, it makes more sense for the US politically, especially when their own former special forces soldiers are operating in Tarkov as part of USEC. More of a political issue for them than GB
How about the US hires a PMC instead of its own military force to prevent controversy of US troops in russian soil? Would mean that there are potentially 3 PMCs in tarkov now
@@tornad8063 I don't see how it could be cult, only because the cult Is Russian natives, so having western accents would be counter intuitive. But spec ops pmcs are definitely on the right track and we have precedent for it with hired ops/contract wars
@@gagekellstrom3978 in books you get information, that cult is closely connected to terragroup. They are obsessed at collecting as much pendrives etc as possible. They try to convert anyone ang highly possibly their core is ex terragroup members. If o remember correctly more about that is in EUL gaming books reviev
Imagine a small chance of actually encountering a DEVGRU or CAG squad in tarkov. Their uniform, equipment and weapon are all accurate with their irl gear. They receive command solely from the US gov, independent from the BEAR USEC conflict, therefore will avoid conflict but absolutely deadly when engaged.
You wouldn’t encounter them, you would just die to one shot. Most likely in Woods, Interchange, or the coast map. You would just be walking along and then you would die to a headshot losing everything, and if you didn’t immediately die you wouldn’t be able to run.
Well considering the use of the Stryker M1128 with the mobile gun system which only the United States uses, they are already involved in tarkov. Also, the other Stryker variant seen in tarkov is the LAV 3 is used by the Canadians. Also judging by the CADPAT and UCP patrol caps found in game we can guess that they already are involved in tarkov.
Eh, could have been sold to any of the pmc groups courtesy of the massive us stockpile left in Afghanistan... hajj can't maintain a stryker, so it only stands to reason they'd sell it off to the highest bidder.
This what-if should be added to the lore, its just my headcanon atm but something is telling me that the Black Division are the U.S. Army's Delta Force
I could see an in-game event where US forces and RU army fight each other on the maps or just act as super-scavs, it would help to explain how the world went from EFT to Russia 2028's post apocalypse
US involvement by SEAL/DEVGRU/Delta/MARSOC/Green Berets could be the answer to who is Black Division, but we'll see. They are using no Russian Gear, all of the rifle setups they use look like they are SOCOM as well as gear. U can see them using GPNVG-18s that are made by EOTech as well as Fast MTs, CPC Plate carriers and so on and so forth. It's very likely that these people are SOF dudes. The thing that's bugging me is that they got triggered when the trader ringed someone up on that phone and said that "their" luggage is in arms of PMCs, and the luggage belonged to TG, so maybe that means that Black Division are also contractors that are now retired SOF dudes that are getting paid more by TG than any other PMC company at the time to do the dirty work. You might say that that's just USEC, but USEC and TG broke connection some time ago, and Black Division could be a new and better replacement for USEC... Let me know what you guys think!
JSOC teams trying to fly under the radar (as they would be in Tarkov) usually use weapons that while they are often customized, are chambered in and in the pattern of those that are used by forces native to the area
Black Division aren’t US, they are also not PMC. They are an exclusively Terragroup faction, and are meant to be the best of the best + best equipment + juiced up off so many drugs it could kill an elephant.
i think black division was some USECs who were the type to silence LABS russian staff and clean up after TG's when they were doing illegal activities in tarkov and other regions. While the rest of the USEC do security for TG personnel and properties. If TG had such sensitive info that were handled by the USEC, they would not have them do things like extract the intel to TG, and then leave them to die in tarkov like this. So i think USEC officially cut ties with TG but was still getting paid under the table.
Nikita has already hinted that irradiated areas are on the way, and this can lead to permadeath for your PMC. All of us that have been playing in beta have become comfortable on the maps, we know where to go for certain items, we know where to look for scav's and bosses. They are going to change the face of Tarkov with at least 1 nuke, what better day to do it on than Launch Day. Server wipe? Nuclear wipe more like.
EUL should be hired as a voice actor for mission descriptions when and if they do so, it would make the game far more engaging and give us greater reason to take note of the already well written but often skipped dialogue of Tarkov
An intriguing 'What if?' scenario indeed Plenty of options for interfering quietly and unnoticed if they really wanted to do so. Also, would USEC black-ops get involved in some way? They still have a mission to accomplish after-all. As does BEAR
USEC's mission in Tarkov is a little unclear. At the time that our characters exist, USEC within Tarkov have been abandoned by TG. Maybe some of them still care about their original mission but like the voiceline says: "I can't believe command just up and left us here." and "What about command? They just left us?". I think USEC trapped in Tarkov are just trying to survive and leave, but black division (which may be supported by US govt?) is going to pick up where USEC left off.
Honestly it's scary how closely the events in EFT are beginning to mirror what's going on in Ukraine. Especially after the State Dept. admitted to US funded "bio labs" in Ukraine...
@@talkingmudcrab718 the labs that dedicate themselves to studying diseases and countermeasures against them in a country where they had to deal with Chornobyl?
I do think there's two existing ways USA is already involved in this clusterfuck. The shot down drones in Shoreline and logistical support to UNTAR units, as seen from the M4s and M9A3s that Peacekeeper has. While there's a lot of M4 users, the M9A3 is very much a US-only weapon and thus it is likely they are given out as part of the aid for the sake of cleaning out their inventories from old weapons. For other NATO countries, the M416 and SCAR have been adapted by a bunch of European countries so odds are, they're from stockpiles that nominally belong to Belgium, France or Norway.
Well, I can see the western three-letter gentlemen greenlighting the resupplying of USEC remnants simply because it would be very embarassing if Russia can't handle something like this. Not as a thing that they'd go out of their way to do but as a purely opportunistic move.
The US isn't the only country that uses the M9. Brazil, Egypt, France, Italy, Mexico, Spain, and a few others use the M9 or their own licensed version. Granted, we're talking about the M9A3 as it's called in game, but If I remember correctly, the US didn't adopt the M9A3. Instead, the US military adopted the Sig M17 Also, it's just 416 or HK416. M416 isn't an actual designation outside of Battlefield 4 and PUBG.
@@KeyboardOperatorPride You have a fitting name. However, the gun in question is very specifically the M9A3 meant to compete for a US contract and not any other variant of the Beretta 92. After all, the one in the game isn't a PT92 or a PAMAS G1.
Do we actually know where the Norvinsk region is? I've always imagined it as being in the territory the USSR took from Finland, and that it is likely very close to the Finnish border. That could be an idea for a video, trying to figure out exactly where it is based on the info we have.
I think it would be possible. Since in your previous video of the Tarkov lore, you stated that USEC helped terrorist in Africa or something like that. So I think the U.S military, the UN, BEAR would all ally. Since Russia is trying to contain it all, American forces and Russian forces wouldn't really interfere with each other. They might threaten each other but they wouldn't fire at each other because they would start a WW3 in my opinion. American forces, RGF, UN, and BEAR would try to get rid of scavs, raiders, and USEC. In one of the Tarkov episodes, USEC just murdered a lot of Terragroup staff. America and Russia could ally but I would doubt that.
Yes, while USEC was running security for TG in Africa during their mining operations, USEC aided local bands of militias and rebels and basically whipped up violence in the area. Not sure why though. Possibly some kind of real world exercise?
@@EULGamingYT it's just job security... why pay top dollar for the baddest mercs if the ao is largely docile? It's poor writing for sure but I don't expect the tarkov devs to write as well as dostoevsky.
Depends on the country of origin where they recruit from. As far I am aware they seem to be mostly American and that seems more likely because of a larger pool of ex special operators that are in the US compared to the UK.
I'd say the only story line that would allow us troops into Russia proper and not spark global war would be a joint operation between Russia and US to contain the crisis.
I think if the U.S. joined in on the conflict they would be assisting the Russians because TerraGroup and the USEC action along with the many other none UN or Russian factions could be considered terrorist after all the TerraGroup made their lab in Tarkov because it was a major city in Russia that was far north which would give them workers without alerting the government because of how out of the way it is. This brings me to my next point on why they would help Russia instead on the terrorist in the region; USEC They have killed innocent TerraGroup employees for no reason which doesn't matter because it still a war crime, TerraGroup have been funding illegal experiments and created a private military group that also has committed war crimes along with just normal crimes, and lastly the Scavengers for the main reason (and I'm sure they will be forgiven since they were trapped in warzone) have committed multiple felonies including Murder, Robbery and theft (all of which where necessary evils BTW) I just don't see a world where the U.S sides with terrorist. Another reason why I think they would join in on the Russian side is because the U.S's relationship with the Russian's has always been rocky taking a different side would probably escalate things into a war which is not a good thing but on the other hand if the American's did join on the Russian side it would be a chance to strengthen ties between America and Russia, and maybe even make them close allies because America helped them settle an internal conflict that is why I think it would be stupid for America not to take the opportunity to help the Russians and possible end a rivalry or make it a friendly one. America should help Russia in this situation, Feel free to argue I'm open to other perspectives.
The US sides w terrorists or whoever helps them accomplish their goals all the time, but they still would not ever be openly involved in resolving conflict on russian territory because russia would never allow it. Its likely that in this scenario tensions are extremely high between the US and RU because from a russian perspective whats going on in tarkov is basically an american corporation starting a large conflict along side an american private army, and then that american private army continuing the violence even after terragroup has abandoned it, so to russians it probably already looks really sus, and if US troops were deployed it would look even more sus. So russia would absolutely not be willing to work along side the US. Also If russia became destabilized by internal conflicts the US wouldnt want to help cuz its not in their interests to help. Russia and the US will probably never become strong allies seeing as how they are adversaries with conflicting interests in europe, the arctic, and the middle east
Haven't watched the video just yet so i'm commenting based on the title, If the US put uniformed troops in Tarkov, which is Russian sovereign territory, it would undoubtedly cause the AFRF to completely assert dominance and send everything they have to reinforce and reinstate Russian Government rule, including pushing out American troops, no way would they just sit by and let a foreign power let alone their biggest global competitor waltz into one of their "most" prosperous regions (prior to it all going to shit ofc), they'd see that as an act of war. that being said time to watch the video because i know this'll be interesting to watch :)
They; along with DEVGRU, ISA and Deltas would be the only American forces on the ground that you'd plausibly see. The political situation is too tense for any overt involvement beyond drone flights above the area which is nominally inside Russian borders. They would most likely focus on ground-level observing the situation and eliminating the most inconvenient people involved in the whole scenario. Perhaps, to also secure Terragroup related intel to either cover their asses or to build up their own case to fuck them up in the court system. Retrieving people would only be done for the most important figures for this goal. As far as USEC goes, they wouldn't be considered anything more than expendable rent-a-guns by DC. They most likely have already done their service and are doing this for the sake of better pay than working directly for Uncle Sam.
Better question is what happens when russia invades tarkov as its in their country. US wouldn't step foot in tarkov, only way they'd be there is through terra group or a pmc contractor. I feel that black division is terragroup (not a third party contractor) theyre there to handle lose strings.
Black Division are TerraGroup, it's confirmed. Well, not TerraGroup as USEC is (being its subsidiary), but: 1. Black Division is known as top-tier PMC specializing in grey and straight up black area operations. 2. They've technically already been announced as either the 3rd side of the conflict, or a part of it, against which USEC and BEAR survivors will team up in Russia 2028. 3. They took at least one job from TerraGroup (the Raid series - they were the one to take out the RF Armed Forces port base which was later covered up as being destroyed by a big scav gang). My guess is, either they've been bought by TerraGroup recently (unlikely, we probably would've already known about that - but eh, R2028 updates are not that often, so it's still possible) or they've signed a long-term contract with the corp, serving as its personal elite guard.
Didn’t The Black Division assault a Russian military installation? A US Special operations detachment would never do something so brash and aggressive. If, as you say, Gus Vansing was in there and they wanted to grab him, they would wait until he left and then grab him. Russian strategy here seems to be to seal of the Tarkov region and wait for everyone in it to kill each other, before going in and liquidating any resistance, so they wouldn’t allow US troops in there. However, a large part of the game’s storyline is based on the official Russian propaganda narrative of victimisation, so I wouldn’t be surprised if we see US involvement.
A big company like terra-group would easily have US government contracts worth billions. Even today in the war with Russia and Ukraine don’t think for moment US forces are not helping that is the thing with black ops and highly trained forces like CIA SOG and PAG they can do things without anyone knowing. So all this is to say yes Tarkov will have a US lead faction within the story because it would make very logical sense for such a faction to be involved.
I know at the time you posted the comment, it probably wasn't leaked yet but yeah, there's US SOF/SF dudes in Ukraine along with SOF units from other NATO countries. They're strictly used in an advisory role and possibly training
What exactly is the extent of the Russian government's level of authority over the Tarkov region? From what I've gathered so far it seems to me like its some kind of autonomous region where the local Tarkov government has control on paper but the Russian government also has some political power. From what I've heard and seen in the lore so far with things Terragroup has been caught doing in addition to the level of foreign involvement in the region and the conflict, it makes me speculate that Terragroup can't be getting away with it on corrupting officials alone. There has to be some level of authority that the Russian Government is lacking the region.
The entire premise itself while interesting, any actual evidence, or even accusations of US intervention on Russian soil would be reasons for Russia to investigate/escalate, even if it was using PMC/Special forces. Escalations of forces between two P5 members is something that even UNSC would not want to mess with. Safe to say that if the "US Military" ever lands in Russia home soil, the entire world's would be on full nuclear panic if not already covered in nuclear fire.
not trying to shit on you but people wernt stranded in tarkov. lore has it that women and children were warned to get the fuck out, kinda like how america warned iraq "yo, this is about to be an all out battle zone. gtfo if you dont wanna be shot on site" so the beginning makes it hard to get into. again, not trying to knock your work. just trying to help
Absolutly amazing Video but if it is inside Russia they will have Anti Air so how would the US SOF forces infill with helicopters? Because they won’t fly threw the kill zone
The black decision is definitely US military considering how the US usually has their hands dipped in a conflict after it starts if the US didn’t on purpose or accidentally has a hand in a conflict
It's not U.S. military. Black Division is not new, it already existed in the lore and appeared in the previous game, Contract Wars (although there it wasn't a playable or NPC faction, but was a special status for players at the top of the leaderboards). Just like USEC, they are a PMC, although a much more elite one, for the lack of better words. Best tech, best equipment, best paychecks, best operators. And, unlike USEC that is more of a normal PMC, just taking regular security jobs and the like, the Black Division specializes in black ops kind of stuff, i.e. pretty much illegal, full deniability operations.
1. Does it have oil and other resources or Russian equipment? If yes move to question 2. If no then no invasion. 2. Does the location have one or more of the reasons in this video? If yes for both questions then we will send every 18 year old overseas to die.
They should make another trader that uses us dollars and euros. he works like fence, however if you gain good karma from one you lose that amount from the other.
I wouldn't be surprised if US clandestine forces are already involved in Tarkov, as there seems to already be a narrative precedent for it. Consider all the missions conducted on behalf of Peacekeeper; you recover valuable intelligence from downed drones, assess and recover military assets from BMPs, T-90s & Strykers, operations like that have the CIA's fingerprints all over it.
The US would be *VERY* interested in assessing Russian military capability, and all Peacekeeper's "contacts" or "clients" are likely to be part of the Intelligence Community. This would realistically be a perfect time to aquire said intelligence, under a guise of secrecy surrounded by the conflict which has preoccupied the Russian Federation.
I believe it would be plausible for Peacekeeper's intelligence to be considered Actionable Intel to warrant a US military response in the region, which could prompt BSG's proposed Russia 2028 game in the future.
I like this train of thought.
@@EULGamingYT Thanks, I appreciate the recognition. I've also liked your series on Tarkov lore you've put out for a long time, and thought putting the conflict into perspective from a geopolitical aspect would be an interesting academic exercise.
Keep doing you EUL, good work!
i don’t think so because peacekeeper is part of the UN faction and has this trading as a secondary thing in order to make some money and survive
@@thedestroyer5650 And selling intelligence to the U.S would absolutely be within his purview.
@@thedestroyer5650 since when are the US not part of the UN?
The Black division makes the most sense for US forces. They seemed too coordinated and well trained to simply be an extra-highly trained PMC group. Furthermore, their cooperation with scav groups makes me believe that CIA was involved in the coordinated attack in the final episode of the Raid series
could also be the uk's special forces sas and the coordination doesn't really matter because every military's coordination is on point and every military is very well trained just depends on the language they speak it being english could be any military if it were one and lots of other countries have there own cia essentially
@@istoleyournoodle4168 true, but with US’s nature of consistently getting themselves involved in every major conflict, it makes more sense for the US politically, especially when their own former special forces soldiers are operating in Tarkov as part of USEC. More of a political issue for them than GB
@@istoleyournoodle4168 you can find john prices hatcin tarkov
@@istoleyournoodle4168 simply not true. Look at african military's.
@@BlackHawk2901 There are also possible former British special forces in tarkov
How about the US hires a PMC instead of its own military force to prevent controversy of US troops in russian soil? Would mean that there are potentially 3 PMCs in tarkov now
isn't that the black division?
@@j0hnicide black division had British accents in RAID so, we know they are atleast UN-alligned so possibly US spec ops could be part of it
@@gagekellstrom3978 I belive, black division is either next/more elite pmc of terragroup or elite forces made by cult
@@tornad8063 I don't see how it could be cult, only because the cult Is Russian natives, so having western accents would be counter intuitive. But spec ops pmcs are definitely on the right track and we have precedent for it with hired ops/contract wars
@@gagekellstrom3978 in books you get information, that cult is closely connected to terragroup. They are obsessed at collecting as much pendrives etc as possible. They try to convert anyone ang highly possibly their core is ex terragroup members. If o remember correctly more about that is in EUL gaming books reviev
Imagine a small chance of actually encountering a DEVGRU or CAG squad in tarkov. Their uniform, equipment and weapon are all accurate with their irl gear. They receive command solely from the US gov, independent from the BEAR USEC conflict, therefore will avoid conflict but absolutely deadly when engaged.
You wouldn’t encounter them, you would just die to one shot. Most likely in Woods, Interchange, or the coast map. You would just be walking along and then you would die to a headshot losing everything, and if you didn’t immediately die you wouldn’t be able to run.
@@Alffraido now that you said it I think a squad of rogue bots with DEVGRU skin maneuvering across the map will do exactly that.
@@Alffraido sounds like everyday life in woods tbh...
It is simple: (Fortunate Son slowly fades in) Oil was discovered in Tarkov.
Well considering the use of the Stryker M1128 with the mobile gun system which only the United States uses, they are already involved in tarkov. Also, the other Stryker variant seen in tarkov is the LAV 3 is used by the Canadians. Also judging by the CADPAT and UCP patrol caps found in game we can guess that they already are involved in tarkov.
Could be the USEC's vics they brought in
I thought it was obvious that the USEC is an allegory for the US military...
Eh, could have been sold to any of the pmc groups courtesy of the massive us stockpile left in Afghanistan... hajj can't maintain a stryker, so it only stands to reason they'd sell it off to the highest bidder.
@@g00gleisgayerthanaids56 The Afghanistan pullout happened long after the stryker and lav models were added to tarkov.
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This what-if should be added to the lore, its just my headcanon atm but something is telling me that the Black Division are the U.S. Army's Delta Force
No. They are just other, more higher garde, scummy mercs hired to mop up and clean up USEC when USEC is done mopping up and cleaning TG dirty secrets.
Probably motivated from Black Water.
@@yormarmar3088 exactly. It’s a play on words for black water
I’d place it more a CIA hit team since no one does missions like this aside from the CIA when they need high value items back
@@teh_beard They had English accents in the RAID film so I doubt it tbh
I could see an in-game event where US forces and RU army fight each other on the maps or just act as super-scavs, it would help to explain how the world went from EFT to Russia 2028's post apocalypse
US involvement by SEAL/DEVGRU/Delta/MARSOC/Green Berets could be the answer to who is Black Division, but we'll see. They are using no Russian Gear, all of the rifle setups they use look like they are SOCOM as well as gear. U can see them using GPNVG-18s that are made by EOTech as well as Fast MTs, CPC Plate carriers and so on and so forth. It's very likely that these people are SOF dudes. The thing that's bugging me is that they got triggered when the trader ringed someone up on that phone and said that "their" luggage is in arms of PMCs, and the luggage belonged to TG, so maybe that means that Black Division are also contractors that are now retired SOF dudes that are getting paid more by TG than any other PMC company at the time to do the dirty work. You might say that that's just USEC, but USEC and TG broke connection some time ago, and Black Division could be a new and better replacement for USEC... Let me know what you guys think!
I like this idea a lot.
JSOC teams trying to fly under the radar (as they would be in Tarkov) usually use weapons that while they are often customized, are chambered in and in the pattern of those that are used by forces native to the area
Black Division aren’t US, they are also not PMC. They are an exclusively Terragroup faction, and are meant to be the best of the best + best equipment + juiced up off so many drugs it could kill an elephant.
TerraGroup owns black division which means if it is a military group its most likely the S.A.S because TerraGroup is British
i think black division was some USECs who were the type to silence LABS russian staff and clean up after TG's when they were doing illegal activities in tarkov and other regions. While the rest of the USEC do security for TG personnel and properties. If TG had such sensitive info that were handled by the USEC, they would not have them do things like extract the intel to TG, and then leave them to die in tarkov like this. So i think USEC officially cut ties with TG but was still getting paid under the table.
Maybe the Black Division operators are in secret CIA SAC SOG operators.
Nikita has already hinted that irradiated areas are on the way, and this can lead to permadeath for your PMC. All of us that have been playing in beta have become comfortable on the maps, we know where to go for certain items, we know where to look for scav's and bosses. They are going to change the face of Tarkov with at least 1 nuke, what better day to do it on than Launch Day. Server wipe? Nuclear wipe more like.
EUL should be hired as a voice actor for mission descriptions when and if they do so, it would make the game far more engaging and give us greater reason to take note of the already well written but often skipped dialogue of Tarkov
An intriguing 'What if?' scenario indeed
Plenty of options for interfering quietly and unnoticed if they really wanted to do so.
Also, would USEC black-ops get involved in some way? They still have a mission to accomplish after-all. As does BEAR
USEC's mission in Tarkov is a little unclear. At the time that our characters exist, USEC within Tarkov have been abandoned by TG. Maybe some of them still care about their original mission but like the voiceline says: "I can't believe command just up and left us here." and "What about command? They just left us?". I think USEC trapped in Tarkov are just trying to survive and leave, but black division (which may be supported by US govt?) is going to pick up where USEC left off.
Honestly it's scary how closely the events in EFT are beginning to mirror what's going on in Ukraine. Especially after the State Dept. admitted to US funded "bio labs" in Ukraine...
@@talkingmudcrab718 what bio labs? the cooked up BS lie from russia?
@@ZeroOne-mp1qe Uhhh... The US State Dept already admitted to them bro....
@@talkingmudcrab718 the labs that dedicate themselves to studying diseases and countermeasures against them in a country where they had to deal with Chornobyl?
That thumbnail hits different in 2022. Tarkov is shifting into reality over there
Folks we’ve arrived. It’s happening.
I mean does Tarkov have oil?
I don’t know how this channel only has roughly 24k subs. You’d deserve 10x that minimum. Keep it up!
First thing the usm needs to do is rehabilitate usec and their marksmanship with m4s. Like boy them rifle got the same kick as .22
Nothing would happen, they would all die because nobody ever escapes from Tarkov..
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I do think there's two existing ways USA is already involved in this clusterfuck. The shot down drones in Shoreline and logistical support to UNTAR units, as seen from the M4s and M9A3s that Peacekeeper has. While there's a lot of M4 users, the M9A3 is very much a US-only weapon and thus it is likely they are given out as part of the aid for the sake of cleaning out their inventories from old weapons. For other NATO countries, the M416 and SCAR have been adapted by a bunch of European countries so odds are, they're from stockpiles that nominally belong to Belgium, France or Norway.
I agree. At the very least, there is some high level international gun running going on.
Well, I can see the western three-letter gentlemen greenlighting the resupplying of USEC remnants simply because it would be very embarassing if Russia can't handle something like this. Not as a thing that they'd go out of their way to do but as a purely opportunistic move.
The US isn't the only country that uses the M9. Brazil, Egypt, France, Italy, Mexico, Spain, and a few others use the M9 or their own licensed version. Granted, we're talking about the M9A3 as it's called in game, but If I remember correctly, the US didn't adopt the M9A3. Instead, the US military adopted the Sig M17
Also, it's just 416 or HK416. M416 isn't an actual designation outside of Battlefield 4 and PUBG.
@@KeyboardOperatorPride You have a fitting name. However, the gun in question is very specifically the M9A3 meant to compete for a US contract and not any other variant of the Beretta 92. After all, the one in the game isn't a PT92 or a PAMAS G1.
Do we actually know where the Norvinsk region is? I've always imagined it as being in the territory the USSR took from Finland, and that it is likely very close to the Finnish border. That could be an idea for a video, trying to figure out exactly where it is based on the info we have.
They are already in Tarkov, on the LAV and stryker models it says 1-14 CAV which indicates its from the 1st squadron of the 14th cavalry regiment
This title threw me off for a second and I love it
Something here looks familiar and I can’t quite put my finger on it…hmmmmmm
imagine a raid with enemies in horde mode that have boss aim all geared with full lvl 6 armor and sig spears
You made my break better thank you
I think it would be possible. Since in your previous video of the Tarkov lore, you stated that USEC helped terrorist in Africa or something like that. So I think the U.S military, the UN, BEAR would all ally. Since Russia is trying to contain it all, American forces and Russian forces wouldn't really interfere with each other. They might threaten each other but they wouldn't fire at each other because they would start a WW3 in my opinion. American forces, RGF, UN, and BEAR would try to get rid of scavs, raiders, and USEC. In one of the Tarkov episodes, USEC just murdered a lot of Terragroup staff. America and Russia could ally but I would doubt that.
Yes, while USEC was running security for TG in Africa during their mining operations, USEC aided local bands of militias and rebels and basically whipped up violence in the area. Not sure why though. Possibly some kind of real world exercise?
@@EULGamingYT it's just job security... why pay top dollar for the baddest mercs if the ao is largely docile? It's poor writing for sure but I don't expect the tarkov devs to write as well as dostoevsky.
Your Videos are just too good - binge-watched for hours already. Like how you use different musical themes.
also keep in mind the majority of USEC would not be ex-US SF, but ex-UK SF mostly
Depends on the country of origin where they recruit from. As far I am aware they seem to be mostly American and that seems more likely because of a larger pool of ex special operators that are in the US compared to the UK.
@@mikkel066h on regular USEC most likely. But that faction we see in RAID? Nope.
Even tho i havent seen it yet it's probably amazing like your other vids
If the US invaded tarkov they'd all get 1 tapped by the new 12.12 scavs lol
The WMD had me rolling with bush
How is this going to affect the price of condensed milk?
They will be one taped from nowhere and suffer desync
i love speculative videos like these. very interesting
I'd say the only story line that would allow us troops into Russia proper and not spark global war would be a joint operation between Russia and US to contain the crisis.
Historians are gonna be talking about the lost tarkov conflict after seeing this video lol
There isn't much oil in tarkov to justify a US deployment.
my guess is that when streets comes out the US embassy will be an extract point and maybe a dealer
Nice video but it ain't easily done as there would be mistakes or shenanigans popping here & there leading the problem to snowball into big chaos.
I think if the U.S. joined in on the conflict they would be assisting the Russians because TerraGroup and the USEC action along with the many other none UN or Russian factions could be considered terrorist after all the TerraGroup made their lab in Tarkov because it was a major city in Russia that was far north which would give them workers without alerting the government because of how out of the way it is.
This brings me to my next point on why they would help Russia instead on the terrorist in the region; USEC They have killed innocent TerraGroup employees for no reason which doesn't matter because it still a war crime, TerraGroup have been funding illegal experiments and created a private military group that also has committed war crimes along with just normal crimes, and lastly the Scavengers for the main reason (and I'm sure they will be forgiven since they were trapped in warzone) have committed multiple felonies including Murder, Robbery and theft (all of which where necessary evils BTW) I just don't see a world where the U.S sides with terrorist.
Another reason why I think they would join in on the Russian side is because the U.S's relationship with the Russian's has always been rocky taking a different side would probably escalate things into a war which is not a good thing but on the other hand if the American's did join on the Russian side it would be a chance to strengthen ties between America and Russia, and maybe even make them close allies because America helped them settle an internal conflict that is why I think it would be stupid for America not to take the opportunity to help the Russians and possible end a rivalry or make it a friendly one.
America should help Russia in this situation, Feel free to argue I'm open to other perspectives.
The US sides w terrorists or whoever helps them accomplish their goals all the time, but they still would not ever be openly involved in resolving conflict on russian territory because russia would never allow it.
Its likely that in this scenario tensions are extremely high between the US and RU because from a russian perspective whats going on in tarkov is basically an american corporation starting a large conflict along side an american private army, and then that american private army continuing the violence even after terragroup has abandoned it, so to russians it probably already looks really sus, and if US troops were deployed it would look even more sus. So russia would absolutely not be willing to work along side the US.
Also If russia became destabilized by internal conflicts the US wouldnt want to help cuz its not in their interests to help. Russia and the US will probably never become strong allies seeing as how they are adversaries with conflicting interests in europe, the arctic, and the middle east
So essentially it's the beginning of the anglo-american-russo alliance from heinlens starship troopers? I dig it.
Good shit as always man, keep it up!
they would get head,eye's from a SCAV or a Hacker and Rage quit.
The questions is not "if" but "when"
Haven't watched the video just yet so i'm commenting based on the title,
If the US put uniformed troops in Tarkov, which is Russian sovereign territory, it would undoubtedly cause the AFRF to completely assert dominance and send everything they have to reinforce and reinstate Russian Government rule, including pushing out American troops, no way would they just sit by and let a foreign power let alone their biggest global competitor waltz into one of their "most" prosperous regions (prior to it all going to shit ofc), they'd see that as an act of war.
that being said time to watch the video because i know this'll be interesting to watch :)
They could make a regular war game out of this lore.
Invading a nuclear power I'd imagine the response would be nuclear.
You know that it's close to happening irl lol
@@pxcs7559 where?
@@flyingintervation4188 europe
MAD protocols render nuclear fallout an impotent threat.
*tugs collar *
Where can I find that one car dealership pic from your lore videos
The U.S. really needs to step in and clean up the Tarkov region. Things are getting really bad there.
More plz thank you
Maybe need CIA's Special Activities Center's SOG operators are involved in the Escape from Tarkov situation🤔
They; along with DEVGRU, ISA and Deltas would be the only American forces on the ground that you'd plausibly see. The political situation is too tense for any overt involvement beyond drone flights above the area which is nominally inside Russian borders. They would most likely focus on ground-level observing the situation and eliminating the most inconvenient people involved in the whole scenario. Perhaps, to also secure Terragroup related intel to either cover their asses or to build up their own case to fuck them up in the court system. Retrieving people would only be done for the most important figures for this goal.
As far as USEC goes, they wouldn't be considered anything more than expendable rent-a-guns by DC. They most likely have already done their service and are doing this for the sake of better pay than working directly for Uncle Sam.
Did Tarkov predict this current
f u c k e n i n g ?
Would be an interesting thing to see for sure
here is a thing: some pmc have wall hack and aimbot, I don’t think usf has that, so…
Better question is what happens when russia invades tarkov as its in their country. US wouldn't step foot in tarkov, only way they'd be there is through terra group or a pmc contractor.
I feel that black division is terragroup (not a third party contractor) theyre there to handle lose strings.
Black Division are TerraGroup, it's confirmed. Well, not TerraGroup as USEC is (being its subsidiary), but:
1. Black Division is known as top-tier PMC specializing in grey and straight up black area operations.
2. They've technically already been announced as either the 3rd side of the conflict, or a part of it, against which USEC and BEAR survivors will team up in Russia 2028.
3. They took at least one job from TerraGroup (the Raid series - they were the one to take out the RF Armed Forces port base which was later covered up as being destroyed by a big scav gang).
My guess is, either they've been bought by TerraGroup recently (unlikely, we probably would've already known about that - but eh, R2028 updates are not that often, so it's still possible) or they've signed a long-term contract with the corp, serving as its personal elite guard.
Didn’t The Black Division assault a Russian military installation? A US Special operations detachment would never do something so brash and aggressive. If, as you say, Gus Vansing was in there and they wanted to grab him, they would wait until he left and then grab him. Russian strategy here seems to be to seal of the Tarkov region and wait for everyone in it to kill each other, before going in and liquidating any resistance, so they wouldn’t allow US troops in there. However, a large part of the game’s storyline is based on the official Russian propaganda narrative of victimisation, so I wouldn’t be surprised if we see US involvement.
I'm writing my congressman and senator TODAY to let them know I am OPPOSED to escalating the conflict in Tarkov.
NO MORE BLOOD FOR RED KEY CARDS!
Oh shit...
A big company like terra-group would easily have US government contracts worth billions. Even today in the war with Russia and Ukraine don’t think for moment US forces are not helping that is the thing with black ops and highly trained forces like CIA SOG and PAG they can do things without anyone knowing. So all this is to say yes Tarkov will have a US lead faction within the story because it would make very logical sense for such a faction to be involved.
There are US Troops in Ukraine
I know at the time you posted the comment, it probably wasn't leaked yet but yeah, there's US SOF/SF dudes in Ukraine along with SOF units from other NATO countries. They're strictly used in an advisory role and possibly training
The servers wouldnt cope.
They’d get head-eyes’d by scavs, that’s what would happen.
What exactly is the extent of the Russian government's level of authority over the Tarkov region? From what I've gathered so far it seems to me like its some kind of autonomous region where the local Tarkov government has control on paper but the Russian government also has some political power.
From what I've heard and seen in the lore so far with things Terragroup has been caught doing in addition to the level of foreign involvement in the region and the conflict, it makes me speculate that Terragroup can't be getting away with it on corrupting officials alone. There has to be some level of authority that the Russian Government is lacking the region.
Lacking or complicit?
i wish it would come to steam
Who do you guys think the USEC are? US troops? Wtf
I feel like Russia would react and ww3 would definitely start
We would win..
Yeah imagine if airstrikes were happening in Tarkov lol
@5:38 we seem to have lost some states. What flag is this?
Maybe it's the flag for the U.s. in the tarkov lore?
about to get real
Nice video
You mean if tarkov would have oil?
The entire premise itself while interesting, any actual evidence, or even accusations of US intervention on Russian soil would be reasons for Russia to investigate/escalate, even if it was using PMC/Special forces. Escalations of forces between two P5 members is something that even UNSC would not want to mess with. Safe to say that if the "US Military" ever lands in Russia home soil, the entire world's would be on full nuclear panic if not already covered in nuclear fire.
MAD protocols have rendered nuclear fallout a rather impotent threat. Nobody, is insane enough to destroy the planet over a few dead humans.
We'd get our asses handed to us.
Especially now since the US military cares more about being woke than actually fighting wars.
@@marleyjr00 well at least u guys can flow more unwanted meat shield into front line eh ? xD instead of sending all the best men to the meat grinder
um make a video about WHAT IF CHINA WILL INTERFERE OR OTHER COUNTRIES
GO TO TARKOV BRO
Nice video on Ukraine
But isn't one of the factions Americans already?
This makes no sense Americans are already there.
Usec is a private military founded in the US, its technically not the US govt. then
USEC aren't federal troops: they're expendable rent-a-thugs.
I don't think BSG will want to make the U.S. part of the game.
The USEC itself funded by US
Next episode escape from trakov
They are already did note lav 300 in reserve
not trying to shit on you but people wernt stranded in tarkov. lore has it that women and children were warned to get the fuck out, kinda like how america warned iraq "yo, this is about to be an all out battle zone. gtfo if you dont wanna be shot on site"
so the beginning makes it hard to get into. again, not trying to knock your work. just trying to help
What if the US didn't engage in another country's war? Wouldn't that be a nice change of pace. We need to fix our own problems.
Other countries are your problems lol
Pretty sure the US military won’t intervene in a made place in a video game. Just a guess.🤷♂️
i cant wait to see a article talking about this thinking this is real and has something to do with ukraine
Absolutly amazing Video
but if it is inside Russia they will have Anti Air so how would the US SOF forces infill with helicopters? Because they won’t fly threw the kill zone
hold on ... TARKOV IS NOT A REAL PLACE
I hope they never add the us army cus that would completely ruin the game
we dont have to guess the CIA is literally in Ukraine and that seems to be a metaphor for how Russians view that country a honeypot for the west
Your idea already plan in game call (Russia 2028).
Interesting video.
Have you guys forgotten about Vietnam? :b
The black decision is definitely US military considering how the US usually has their hands dipped in a conflict after it starts if the US didn’t on purpose or accidentally has a hand in a conflict
It's not U.S. military. Black Division is not new, it already existed in the lore and appeared in the previous game, Contract Wars (although there it wasn't a playable or NPC faction, but was a special status for players at the top of the leaderboards).
Just like USEC, they are a PMC, although a much more elite one, for the lack of better words. Best tech, best equipment, best paychecks, best operators. And, unlike USEC that is more of a normal PMC, just taking regular security jobs and the like, the Black Division specializes in black ops kind of stuff, i.e. pretty much illegal, full deniability operations.
This just means more US weapons.
I thought thats what USEC basically was\
Guess we now know that the US military would not join the tarkov conflict since they haven't joined the Ukrainian conflict
If it's the current day woke US military they'd get their asses handed to them by seasoned scavs.
1. Does it have oil and other resources or Russian equipment? If yes move to question 2. If no then no invasion.
2. Does the location have one or more of the reasons in this video? If yes for both questions then we will send every 18 year old overseas to die.
Trakov seems like UA now I think about it.
Almost sounds very similar to the Ukraine situation ... strangely paralleled.
They should make another trader that uses us dollars and euros. he works like fence, however if you gain good karma from one you lose that amount from the other.