"Real" Affinity | $100 Modern MTG Budget Magic Gameplay
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- Over the years "affinity" has come to mean any aggro deck with a lot of artifact creatures, but 20 years ago during Mirrodin it referred to a deck built around the affinity for artifacts mechanic. Well now thanks to some new additions (including the return of artifact lands) in Modern Horizons 2 "Real" Affinity is back!
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0:00 Start
2:32 Match 1
7:13 Match 2
13:13 Match 3
23:37 Match 4
25:57 Match 5
34:15 Wrap Up - Hry
We should have cast the Frogmite ;)
Hillarious, scroll down to comments so I can yell at Seth for punting, see this pinned as top comment X-D
Meanwhile I came down here to say that you missed the math on cranial at 14:50 . If you cast the plating and equip on an ornithopter you hit for 9 putting them to 7. You still have four blockers and 5 life. They had 5 creatures that could attack with the weakest being 1 power. They would have to draw a kill spell for your thopter or a way to buff their lieutenant by 3 or they lose on the swingback. Their board was already so tall, there was no card in your deck that could effectively block or remove more than one champion. Your only chance at winning was to try and be faster and you had a card that put them on a 2 swing clock, but you chose to give them an extra turn.
There was also a point in the death shadow match at the start where you chose to discard plating over thought monitor. I *know* card draw is drilled into your head as always better, but card draw value is dependent on what you want/need to draw and the odds of drawing it. You're playing a very aggressive deck and you just discarded your most agro card... What could you have drawn that would have been worth more than the eleven power on board the plating represented? I do know this was a moot point because they had the second discard effect and you lost the monitor too, but it still hurt my soul a bit to see you undervalue the plating that much.
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Seth i wanna see 2 things very very soon pretty please brother!!! Both involve upheaval
upheaval with some kind of faceless butcher interaction payoff problem is im unsure what to butcher prior to upheaval....i haven't dug deep enough to figure it out yet....but once you cast upheaval whatever is under the faceless butcher ends up in play on an empty board so I'm thinking 2 diff ways possibly the same list tho....either scarab god or glory bringer scarab god can just pump out the things youve discarded and glory bringer has haste
And then of course weve gotta see a historic version of upheaval infestation from odessey bloc constructed!!!!
This is a budget deck?is there any upgrades you would suggest?
obviously, opponent was playing a 20 Champion of the parish, 20 lieutenant, 20 lands deck
Lol, it felt like it.
and 1 aethervial
@@alexmaragh7766 2 aethervial
Champion of the Parish Hat Trick.
I was your enchantress opponent! Freaked out when it was you for a second haha
Lucky you!
Nice! Sweet deck!
you absolutely destroyed him ahah
Lucky
do you have a deck list for your enchantress?
Finally an affinity deck with affinity on it lol
Yeah, it's pretty funny that a lot of recent "affinity" decks don't play any affinity cards.
@@MTGGoldfish what are you talking about, mox opal ha- *oh*
I really appreciate the little popups of a card when Seth mentions it as a theoretical. It looked a little BM when he said "If they play ghostly prison we scoop it up" and then the exact printing that later gets played popped up, but that was just funny.
Against the Odds: Champion of the Parish
Against the odds: salamanders crossing bridge
15:00
Plating + Equipd + attack with orni = 9 Damage
Opp turn: Block with 4 creatures
Own turn: play thought monitor + orni + Attack with equipded orni = 7 damage = win
Me: "I built this deck yesterday and I'll be darned if the price jumps before I order it!" Later, "Phew, got there"
Honestly, this is probably the deck I'm most excited is coming back from the dead. It always bothered me that the old Arcbound Ravager deck was called Affinity despite playing zero cards with Affinity. This on the other hand, THIS is Affinity. :)
That Humans hand was GOD TIER
Yet, there was still a path to victory
25:00 You're playing a deck with 4 cranial plating... you can pay for 1 attacker with 10 power pretty realistically.
Thank you I was thinking the same thing
Both scoops were too early. Stony silence is not game over for affinity, only the lands and playing have activated abilities. Still worth seeing if they had an answer to frogmits and monitors
@@marshall4439 can't make blue mana, no springleaf drums either, so no thought monitors no thoughtcast, just gotta hope to draw enough froggy boys, sojourners and enforcers.
This, and also stony silence is why you run at least one or two basics.
The stony silence concede was probably fine, lands tend to be a lot better when they can produce mana
21:40 could have still played the frogmite. Affinity reduced the cost by 3, and you had two mana open to pay the remaining cost.
Yeah, that was a brain fart. I was so focused on tracking how many artifacts on the battlefield I forgot that lands tap for mana, lol.
Still crushed that game though!
@@MTGGoldfish When you are so high-level that you forget that lands tap for mana.
I too remember Mirrodin standard and 2.0. The memories of midrange aggro with greater consistency and speed than burn decks never leaves.
16:30 if you're casting two frogmites in the same turn, and the second one won't be free, make blinkmoth a creature using its own mana.
Could frogmite for 1, then for 0, then thoughtcast off of drum instead of just double frog
24:42 THIS. this is everything I thought was missing. Thank you for showing the card.
This deck got me to try Magic again. Seems super fast and fun for a very cheap price! Thank you Saff!!
15:23 That dude got the Royal Flush of Humans lol
My brother and I were having a debate during MH2 spoilers whether Modern Affinity was dead without Mox Opal. Nice to see it bouncing back with new tech.
The scary thing is this deck isnt running urza's saga. Urza saga is legitimately one of the scariest cards in modern now.
Double karnstruct on a land is scary powerful with potential to pick up a lot of hate pieces that mess with a lot of archtypes or protects your aggro pieces.
@@zarathos888 Urza’s Saga (the card) will get banned.
Well there is not much « new tech ». This Classic Affinity build uses some of the new cards, but the plays are obvious. I just do not know if it is fast enough against the other aggro decks. This is not 2004 folks. Magic has evolved 10-folds since then.
after getting destroyed by affinity a episode or 2 ago seth comes back with affinity, if only he did this every time he lost to tron
Love seeing the card you reference come on screen. So good for new players!
OMG, I don't know if I'm going to be able to finish watching this video... round 1, and you are already undervaluing the pressure Cranial Plating puts on opponents. As an OG Standard Affinity player, it's wrecking my soul to see you prioritize Thoughtcast over getting the plating equipped and finishing your opponent.
Yeah, affinity is an aggro deck that kills the oppomemt on turn3 with some luck.
If you have an option that deals damage to face, its probably the right one.
you can use summoning sick creatures with springleaf drum! i think i noticed a couple of times where you could have played something with a drum but didn't, particularly in match 5. at 32:34 you could have played the cranial plating out and a couple of turns before that you could have played another thoughtcast.
also after animating the nexus he could have left the nexus there and use the enforcer + nexus creature to instant speed the plating onto the monitor that was not blocked using both drums.
I've been playing the blasts version of affinity for a couple years and I would say running 4x Galvanic blast instead of welding jar, or running Galvanic blasts in the board would do this deck a lot of good. That humans match could've used some burn.
Agree. Galvanic Blast is nuts!
That enchantress match was really something lol. as good as it is to see the deck do well, it's also good to see it destroyed once.
Affinity being good again and being *actual* affinity makes me happy. To be clear, I've never played with it, but I love that it's back and seems like a sign of format health. Plus, I play white and run stony silence.
this is practically pauper affinity
True.
I love watching your modern games. Learning a lot as I'm new to modern.
So happy to see this deck. I can finally improve my mirrodin/darksteel affinity for artifacts deck
I was pretty amazed with this deck man, it just works so well! Here in Europe prices are much lower so I can pick this nice pile of cards for less than 30€ or so, so definetly trying this one out.
Everyone else watching this video: Affinity is back
Me watching this video: Enchantress is here
I love your budget decks, Definitely going to be trying this out!
Thanks!
Ahaha! Then read my top comment on side-boarding. With Urza’s Saga (the card) in Modern, you should expect a *lot* of hate versus artifact builds. I am running four Root Maze (main deck). Cheers & happy gaming.
I really wish to see atog fling in modern. With those lands it seems playable. You could almost play pauper deck in modern now
You can using Arcbound Ravager.
You can play Ravenous Intruder. It's basically Atog as a Gremlin.
Atog is in modern
Infamous early scooping vs that ghostly prison, could have just waited to draw into cranial or the new living weapon and won with one hit or two
It was probably still hard to win from that point but I agree that Seth really makes some premature scoops sometimes.
That was a very silly thing to do.
@@TheChibidono he vastly underestimated cranial plating in nearly every matchup. If he'd slowed down enough to do the math it was sitting at +6 to +10 power and constantly representing a 2 swing clock. With how many cheap creatures he could dump out that would have let him be a turn or two faster and go "under" the other agro decks like humans.
Agree. Seth had the win on the board. He tends to play « automatically » sometimes without really thinking about *all* his options. Enchantress can no nothing against a cranial-plated flyer.
this guy always plays bad, clicked on the video by accident, blocked the channel now. : ]
Between modern infect, pauper affinity, and a few random pack pulls... I think I have most of this deck... neat!
I love the card pop ups that were added on this one
There were a couple of games where I would prioritize cast + equip plating then playing the thought-spells next turn instead, also you can beat ghostly with plating or nettlecyst, but man Stony or Karn TGC is instant scoop most of the time.
He's played so many combo or control decks that "card draw is always better" is etched into his DNA at this point. In this agro deck, what is he trying to draw INTO? either removal for a blocker or a threat. But he already has evasive creatures, so the plating is the *best* threat he could draw if he just did the math to check how much power it was adding each time.
Loved the video! Stony Silence is more brutal than ever against this deck!
Bro your voice remains me so much the voice of that ps2 game "crazy taxi "
Love you're videos !
I am so happy right now. I left the game right after Kamigawa. It was heartbreaking to discover last year Affinity was only a Pauper thing.
Jim Davis did a version of this. I liked his inclusion of vault skirg over enforcer for more evasion and a little lifegain. He also used paradise mantle over bauble which I think is correct. You already have 4 thoughtcast and you have to sac bauble which reduces affinity which seems......bad? I also like one shadowspear with saga as a 1 of as a tutor target.
Cute! Keep in mind that white runs Stony Silence and green runs Root Maze main deck. If you want to bring Classic Affinity to a Modern tournament, I recommend having access to Islands or rare untapped lands that produce blue for Annul (four sideboard). Otherwise, expect major disappointments. (Times have changed a lot since 2004 when the Affinity Mechanic was made: the creature decks are much better and they can kill pretty much as fast or faster than Affinity.) Cheers & happy gaming! :-)
I don’t understand why you scoop to ghostly. You can cranial plating eventually and just pay for the one attacker can’t you?
Seth is an infamous early scooper
Yeah, I regret not playing that one out a little bit further. I think it's super unlikely that we could win, but it was technically possible.
I had the same thought. I understand scooping to Stony Silence though. that's brutal.
Yeah, Stony is Brutal. You could get there with attacking, but that plan needs your opponent to not have ghostly prison or any other kind of interaction.
that player posted their deck somewhere here. they were on 4 sterling grove, 3 solitary confinement and one stony silence mainboard. in addition to 12 enchantress effects. there was nearly no way seth kills them through a ghostly prison before they assemble some combination of cards that completely shuts seth down.
and while seth didn't know that exact list, he knew they were on enchantress. so he knew that they would start drawing lots of cards very soon and would likely pack various silver bullets in the main because sterling grove. like yeah it was an early scoop. but unless the opponent just completely stopped playing the game the chances of winning were still mostly nonexistent
in match 3 you go multiple turns without playing cranial plating, despite having killed meddling mage well beforehand
It is better to keep as a surprise the turn he can actually use it, then leave it on the battlefield with the opponent knowing about it.
Trying this for my first affinity deck core, thanks a ton! Got most of the deck for $35 lol. Pestmites gonna replace bauble for a while
This deck is so sweet, love your content!!
That champion of the perish makes me think of seeing epser control pushing five times in four turns against d&t.
Ahh yessssss!!! I wonder if we can still put in some Inkmoth Nexuses and Arcbound ravagers
Sweet video Seth. I wonder if boom bust or some land destruction could be do able with all the indestructible lands.
I feel kind of nostalgic with this deck...
Man, the fella playing enchantress must've been like "Well that was easy"
he's the comment below you lmao
You should activate blinkmoth to increase your affinity count more often
I need a soundboard with all of seth’s onamonopias, and reactions. “Shooo”, “bahugah”, “oh. Mygod”,”yuuuuup yup yup yup”
I remember my brother use to play a affinity cowardice deck in standard Mirrodin
looking forward to trying to brew an affinity deck that can run galvanic and thought monitor
Seth seems so happy with that shame scoop.
I’ve been trying to find a comprehensive thought monitor affinity list and glad to see this today. I think I’m gonna put some glimmervoids in and maybe get some ravagers. Not sure what other improvements (apart from the to-be-banned urza’s saga) I’d need
Inkmoth nexus in addition/instead of blinkmoth. this gives you an even faster clock with cranial
Having played affinity in pauper for a bit, I will say finding room for galvanic blast is definitely worthwhile. It gives you a lot of reach.. esp in this build where you have more card draw. You could pretty reliably threaten lethal when you're opponent is at 8 and 12 wouldn't be hard. At the least you could consider replacing vapor snag in the board and bring it in against stony silence or heavy removal decks (eg when the plating plan doesn't look so hot). Modern does have creatures with more than 4 toughness that need to be dealt with so I understand why you'd go for vapor snag but imagine the humans match up.. permanent removal is much better than giving them another etb. And galvanic blast practically beats death's shadow single handedly
There was a dimir and a grixis version of tgis deck back in the day and both would routinely win turn 2 with arcbound ravager and disciple of the vault it was wprse than eldrazi
Seth, would you consider adding white for tempered steel? It just hurts me seeing those ornithopters and memnites doing nothing
Now we need a Tezzeret deck for modern
Are you going to play hollow one with a Amoranomardicadaistinaculducar shell in modern at some point?
Why scoop at @24:54 though, they are dead to two swings with a cranial plating and you are gonna see 3 cards next turn and have the flyer already.
Curious about the inclusion of Galvanic blast?? Has that been tested?
What do you think of artificer's assistant in affinity? Would a 1/1 flier for 1 with all the scry triggers be worth it?
Mishra bauble just breaks the 100$ budget almost twice over
Why no signal pest? I feel like for the dump affinity it makes the deck nutty
Boarding in etched champion against a stomp deck is an interesting choice
Do you think Affinity Tezzeret is worth an inclusion in the board along with disenchant against Enchantress? Draining them out with disenchant to remove stony silence? Or are we just so aggro we will never need it otherwise?
Modern is looking pretty good now! Lots of diversity and most of the decks I see Seth play against aren't degenerate combos!
I'm curious about inkmoth nexus and/or ravager. I'm assuming they don't fit in the budget, but I wonder if ravager is better in the Nettlecyst slot? It's cheaper to cast and serves a similar purpose. Inkmoth might be good as an alternative win-con, and a way around things like ghostly prison because one attack by a pumped inkmoth will often end the game.
8 copies of "U: draw 2" is pretty gucci, yeah.
If you had to make a non-budget version what would you replace?
Hey, can someone explain why is mishra's bauble so hecking expensive on moto?
surprised Seth didn't pull out the hypergeometric calculator on that humans start. It was, roughly, a 1 in 2,500 chance
might make a modern artifacts deck because of this
Affinity is back yay!
35:30 « your opponent plays Stony Silence on Turn-2, you kind of lose the game. » If it *resolves* , then yes you do. Also if your opponent plays a Root Maze on Turn-1, you kind of lose the game. I recommend that you ditch the Wielding Jars: They do not help you win, and there are too many good permanents now (2021) that bypasses jars but are still very painful for Affinity to « fight through ». Cheers & Happy Gaming!
Obviously not a budget include, but would Amulet of Vigor be worth the add for the tap lands?
there was a lot of "should/could have cast xyz card" moments in this one lol
Great deck great gameplay!
Ah now I remember a new errata: "A deck may contain any number of Champion of the Parish"
Seth never realizing he can cast frogmites for 1 or 2 instead of 0 was kinda painful, not gonna lie.
If it's not free what's the point? Seriously though, I did forget that lands tap for mana once or twice ;)
@@MTGGoldfish tapping lands for mana is for tryhards anyway.
Any argument for playing Echoing Truth in the sideboard for things like Ghostly Prison?
As an Affinity turned Bots players since 2015, I miss Opal, and still approve.
sideboard could use some metallic rebuke, might help with tough matchups
Wow cyst is so fun! Time to side in the board wipes.
Sweet brew. Seems pretty good. Would love to see you revisit modern rogues with dauthi voidwalker. T1 enforcer T2 dauthi T3 profit?
26:53 Should have used springleaf drum to tap for blue and cast Thoughtcast while Opponent was tapped out.
There were a lot of missed opportunities to play spells, either with Springleaf Drum or just paying a generic mana to get an affinity snowball started. It speaks to the power of the deck, really, although Seth also benefits from his opponents not knowing what decks he's playing
What's the reason these decks are running Ink or Blink moth instead of Mishra's Factory? Is the evasion that important?
oh yes! Just as regular beatdown decks, it is always dealing the last couple of points of damage which ends up being the hardest (particularly against control).
I was kinda hoping Seth to see a land destruction deck and see them be real sad about mono indestructible lands
I think that this deck should have access to Ensoul Artifact (At least in the sideboard). Having the option to produce 5/5 indestructible creatures might be clutch in a few match-ups.
Was 21:38 a punt? You had 3 artifacts so you could have played frogmite for 1 and Thoughtcast but instead you did nothing and passed the turn. I guess you might have been trying to wait to be explosive and not let them kill or bounce frogmite with reflector mage before your big turn but it feels like it would have been correct mana efficiency wise
Much like 80’s fashion, all good things come back in style.
Why no play galvanic blast? Its a super bolt. 4 dmg... I think its really strong
I haven’t watched the videos yet, but I’ve never been too keen on modern affinity. Even a free Frogmite, a 2/2 for nothing seems bad
@15:26 you scooped here, but I think you can just chump all the champions, untap, play Thought monitor, and only need to be able to play one more artifact, and equip plating, to be totally winning. Which seems very likely? Am I missing something?
Not gonna lie, I kinda want to build affinity now. What about playing more white/blue to splash some better proactive sideboard cards?
The springleaf can tap cards that have summoning sickness
why no galvanic blast???
A non budget version could include Urza's Saga and Inkmoths over Blinkmoths. Concerning sideboard, how about Galvanic Blast over Vapor Snag?
Also, I'm thinking about some cool "main finisher", like Broodstar (which is suboptimal, but I love it so much ahahah)
My first ever FNM win was with Broodstar affinity when Mirrodin came out. There's definitely a special place in my heart for that card.
@@waynetrout4921 glad I’m not the only one ❤️
I dont think this deck cares for urza's saga. Its not an artifact, I don't want to spend 3 mana to make a body and searching for a 1 drop on turn 3 just feels suboptimal
@@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 why 3? You’re right, it’s not an artifact, but it allows you to put onto the battlefield two big/big constructs, each costing 2 mana. Also, on the third turn it allows you to search for a welding jar or a thopter, based on your needs, which is a juicy bonus!
@@MaskeJ I'm counting it as 3, since you have to tap the land itself plus two other sources.
I think this could use ginger brute and maybe Bomat Courier for even more cards and evasion.
What do you take out?