NEW Matek H743-Wing: The ultimate Matek WING FC?
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My builds using sister boards to this:
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Pretty impressive board, Lee! I really like the USB and buzzer separated board, it can help a lot! 😃
Great review as always!!!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
This board seems to have it all! 🎯
Lee, This would sure fit nicely in the Ritewing “BIG Drak”. (Hint-Hint)
You have all the other Draks and it would complete your fleet too. 😎
Whichever way you decide to go, this is going to be a special board and I’m eye balling it too for a build when it comes available.
Matek just makes great stuff and is always moving forward.
Thanks for all the great content and all the best! ✌🏼
It's surprising how quickly Mateksys bring out new products, which is fantastic. In the middle of setting up a F765-WING (my first FC ever) which I got last week, really enjoying the experience & your video on it has been really, really helpful ..... thank you.
👍 glad to hear! I want to do the same.
Do you have any advice for me?
Great video again painless. Thanks, getting one for sure for my sonic binary
Great as allways lee.stay safe my friend
Cant believe it took so long for canbus to be used. I remember my first DJI Naza builds back in the early days using canbus and having to cram hubs into the Flamewheel frames :-)
Very good review! Time to build a big VTOL arduplane with atomatic flaps, gimbal and mapping cam and what not so ever! 😎👌🏻
Looks beautiful
Matek is really cranking out FC's lately.
really interesting and exciting to see
I JUST finished setting up my F765-WING...
Next build will have this one :)
What are the extra features offered by the 743 model for you?
@@yousefsaadeh7144 Mainly the CAN-Bus and additional PWM port. The plane that the F765-Wing is currently in uses up all of the 12 ports and I would love to have another one. Also, while the M8Q-CAN and ASPD-DLVR can both work on it, they are more convenient to use with CAN-Bus as it would allow for some cleaner and easier wiring.
I’ve owned both of those sensor for quite a while now and still haven’t actually installed them. First I had to wait for iNAV 2.6 for what felt like ages and then, once it got released, I had to update the firmware on the GPS module for it to actually work over MSP... which I still haven’t done :/
Anyway, maybe I’ll finally get me this FC now that you’ve reminded me ;D I just wish that it also had another camera port.
Hi Lee thanks for the great video - again. As a suggestion for a future video if there is enough interest from others, I would like to see one of your step by step videos showing how to use a blheli, dshot esc with arduplane 4 on the h743. I thought I had all the parameters set with the help of the Arduplane guides but must have missed something as the motor doesn't spin and smoke still tries to get out! I've set servo_blh_auto to 1, otype to 6 for Dshot 600 and mask to 1 for group 1? (its a talon evo with only 1 quad brushless motor) Cheers,Bill
Thank you very much this is exactly what I was looking for.
Hopefully it has a vario barometer system in it cuz I'm going to put it in at 8 ft wingspan and bigger gliders.
I don't want my glider to become a drone or be classified as one
Thanks for this excellent review, Lee. I would really like an up-to-date comparison of the many Mateksys boards, in order to choose the best for a large motor-glider intended for "automated" thermal soaring, probably using Arduplane. I have a H743 Wing working on a Ranger 1600 as basic testbed, this one on INAV (6.1.1). This H742 board is now 3 years old and there might be better options...
Best regards.
That is an interesting idea. I'm using mainly F405-Wing boards here on the larger models (not the F405-Wing v2) and using F405-WMN on the builds that have a lot less space.
If I ware to use this or H743 slim in a large quadcopter , what power distribution board do you recommend to go with it.
Hi, thanks for the video. Matek's website (in the tip section) is highly recommended to "erase MCU and upload firmware". I'm not sure I understand what they mean by MCU? Do they refer to a downloading of a standard Ardu version or is it something else/different. Did you do that? Thank you, Itzik.
your videos are awesome, I'm new to Inav and I was wondering if I can get audio from a rmrc 1.3 vtx plus a microphine inside the fuselage on my matek h743 board
hi, i'm using ardupilot, how can i use the dual i2c feature ? what is the setup ? i want to do this because both gps that i'm planing to use are identical, it look like the compass have the same address, it can't see both... also using the second i2c port is a bit of more redundancy ....
Can you get it as a kit or do you have to purchase all the modules separately?
SUPER EXITED!!!! About this FC I will be replacing my 405 wing with this in my MINI Talon cant wait
P.S. ARDUPILOT ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're a bad influence on me Lee and loving it. I have been totally absorbed by your Matek videos and loved them. I have now decided to go the Matek way for my FMS Beaver 2M. If you were to put any receiver of your choice which one would it be to compliment the Matek F765-WSE FC? (TX16S Radio - no ELRS on it. ). Thanks mate... Paul
Or depends on the build but I have a lot of the excellent X8R recievers that I reuse here.... Happy flying
I would like to kindly suggest an idea for a upcoming video: how to setup tango2 mavlink for android phones telemetry logging.
Can you tell me what is normal buzzer sequence when connecting to PC? I think that is problem with my board, and sound is weird.
What does 'weird' mean? What does it do?
Nice reviews as usual Painless, tnx! I was searching for a review on Matek Systems H743-SLIM Flight Controller, I am tempted trying this with Arducopter for a drone build. Do you think that will be fine? Any further advice / recommendations . Stay Safe to you and yours :)
I've not used one of those. See my Ardupilot/Matek builds for the ones I've tried (F405-Wing/F722-Wing and F765-Wing)..
This is really awesome. I think the processors are kind of overkill, why are they not working on boards with a bit more memory room for the program? Maybe they are and I'm just not understanding it. The CAN bus is a nice touch for wings or maybe even long-range bigger quads. I love Matek products.
Did you faced any issue with this FC like ceasing of FC? There are few cases out there....
Watching this while setting up my 722 in a mini drak
I’m thinking of changing out my 405, to the 722, or 765, for the extra features on my Mini Drak, but may just buy a 2nd Mini Drak? I’ve got 2 Nanos, a Mini, and the Big Drak. I’m addicted, but the Mini is my favorite.
Best. ✌🏼
I just bought this setup Lee. You can’t power the can circuit w/o the lipos. USB won’t do it. Another thing; how is Betaflight or Inav going to handle the CAN connection for the GPS? Its best to just use a regular UART gps and go with Betaflight for now. The early M8Q-CAN firmwares did not support MSP connections. sigh!
Awesome video. Keep up the great work. I’m looking to put an FC in my 1300mm balsa piper cub build, any suggestions? Thanks.
Yep, lots of great choice. See the links in description. Any of those would be great choices.. Best of luck
Painless360 I went with f765 with a BN-880Q
I’m always excited to see another board with USB-C (I know, it’s the little things), but so far I’ve often been disappointed that it’s not really USB-C and won’t connect to the USB-C port on my Mac without first going through a USB-A adapter. Is that also the case on this board? Or have they got the circuitry correct to allow direct USB-C connection?
Lee, will this also work with ArduRover/Boat? The price is right and there are a lot of features it seems. I've looked before asking but I either missed it or it doesn't support it yet.
Possibly. That will be in the wiki and Misson Planner. I'm sure this thing will be back on the channel at some point.. Best of luck
Have you made a video on configuring in INAV yet. Just got my h743 soldered up and connected to the configurator.
I've not. Best of luck
can you please do another what flight controllers are available? its very confusing, we don't know which matek controllers work with inav, nor which ones include the stacked pdb.
It would be cool if the buzzer thingy would be battery-backed. Can you talk to the guys?
have a f411wse and f405 wing. this is definitely the next one. f405 does not support enough servos for everything needed
how will this be on a large wing like a SKYWALKER X8?
Hi Lee I just wish I would have seen this before I purchased the H-743. It's 2022 and INAV is still not available. I purchased this one as a recommended it because I was building a new Glider and I wanted to install a system that I could add a component without having to remove the F.C, but I don't know ARDUPILOT Pilot at all. I guess I need to learn how to use it, I am giving up on INAV on ever coming out with a firmware update for this F.C Thanks for the video and information.
Ardupilot is a great system.
Mission Planner/ArduPlane/PixHawk Build (Spring 2020): czcams.com/play/PLYsWjANuAm4p6qzsdJ4Jtnh0dVIGS8jOp.html will give you the basics of the setup.. Best of luck
Do you know if the yaapu cable can be connected to this FC.
Are you going to do a video installing into a quadcopter ? if so approx when?
What is a Yappu cable? I've not heard of that..
@@Painless360 it's the cable that connects the telem1 port to your flysky m8r receiver . See ardupilot.org/copter/docs/common-frsky-yaapu.html
@@cddoughty Hi, I built this and it works fine.
discuss.ardupilot.org/t/some-soldering-required/27613
Thank you for helping me a lot in the past weeks - specifically on Yapuu Telem on the TX16S - what a mess!
Now, I try to change from a fantastic 743slim board to a 743wing on one of my Hexas.
Need some help, because documentation for using 743wing with a Matek 12s PDB HEX is not to find.
I am shure you have the solution!
- where to connect the Curr from PDB? Cant use the onbaord Curr of the 743wing - need 180A. Is it CU2? Need to messure if the Curr from PDB is not more than 3,3V then, right?
- how to get power in the 743wing without using the onboard curr? By the vbat on the BEC-Board of 743wing? Or just neglect it, take the BATT pads and use CU2?
uff, hard stuff so far, but i dont want to turn the H743wing into a briquette (did so with some 722 and a 405..).
Thanks in advance
I'm not sure that flight controller is a good choice. It can't handle 12s batteries and isnt designed to work with an external PDB..
Do u know if inav will support the H743 I know they been working on it I’m on version 3.0.1 but use f 765 an f405 in my planes and wings. I have two H743 I want to use but afraid to down load firmware
V4.0 is nearly out and the H7 support looks like one of the improvements..
It seems that CANbus is very similar to the FrSky Smart port that uses discrete addresses for daisy chained sensors. How do they compare and are they interchangeable?
CANBus is an open standard used in lot of places like the car industry. FrSky is a proprietary system so I don't know the nitty-gritty..
What about interference/noise concerns from I^2C? I have never used I^2C myself, but I have read that it's best to keep the cable as short as possible or avoid altogether. Is that true?
I've never seen that. Careful cable routing and neat installs are always a good idea though.. Happy flying
Maybe a conduit to isolate the noise?
Its only i2c till it plugs into the module, and that length is short. From there the data is carried on the canbus, noise immune. So cable length is effectively the same as stock.
@@m3chanist ahhh ok. Now it makes sense. Thanks!
It's like buying coffee, you look at a small and see that a medium is only 30p more. Then you notice that the large is only 20p more than that...
I look at the F405 wing and think 'That would do all I need it to do'. Then I see the F765 and I think. 'It's only a few quid more and it's latest gen. Makes sense'.
Then I see that the H743 Wing is only a few quid more than that and think 'Well, for less than the price of a cup of coffee I can have the latest, fastest, tallest, strongest, flight controller, it makes sense'.
Then, while I'm mulling and trying to talk myself out of buying something that is way beyond my needs I notice that the H743 is actually cheaper than the F765 AND the F765 is out of stock anyway.
And that is how I ended up with an H743.
What is the pricing for this board? EDIT: found it on aliexpress and it's $70 US
Hi. Can you use mamba f405 mk2
Flight controller. On a fixed wing .
I been flying quadcopter now for over a year now. And now I'm trying to build a GPS Auto pilot using my old mamba f405 mk2 stack on a fixed wing.
I really need some help.
Maybe, I've not tried. These wing flight controllers make it very easy for. See the linked builds.. Happy flying
Hi, I was wondering, is it possible to connect a SiK radio through the GPS unit via daisychaining? Thanks!
UARTS are setup for one thing only. Best of luck
@@Painless360 Okay, I guess I'll plug it directly into the flight computer. I appreciate the quick response!
Great video! Would kill for a pinheader compatible flight controller that had Bluetooth compatibility. Anything out there that does those jobs?
Pin comparable with this flight controller? I'm not sure I understand the question...
how to use this thing on a multicopter there's just 2 esc ports for motors or can you connect those esc's to the pwm servo outputs? 🤔
This is designed for fixed wing. The clue is in the name. See their other flight controllers for multirotor.. happy flying
@@Painless360 well but you said "and probably also for multicopters" 🤷♂️ and i would kinda be interested to put all that power of this fc into a huge build somehow..... a rescue hexa for 7inch quads with grappling hook and dual cam or smth 🤪
You'd use a PDB and other parts if you wanted to try that..
how does this fc connect with QgroundControl app in your iphone to use ?
thank you
No idea, sorry.
So not actually available yet?
I've got an H743 WLITE sitting on my desk in front of me... I don't even have a purpose for it yet, I just knew I'd want to use one lol.
Have you ever consider building a believer its a large twin engine mapping type aircraft, under 200 quid, could probably fit 50 of those FCs in lol...
Hey Lee, I just got an H743-WLITE and figured I would pick an H743 video of yours to ask my question... Mateksys not so much help, there entire answer was "PINIO can be controlled by any AUX channel." I'm new enough to all this that I have no idea what that means. lol
Have you done any videos on the switch controlled 9V video power? I'm running Caddx Vista Polar and have always just had a plug between power and camera on my other set ups. Tried going off Mateksys wiring diagram regarding “9Vsw Power/Camera Switch” but I can't get it to work. I'm running iNav 4.1.0 and I'd like camera to energize with "CH5", my arm/disarm channel. I have power plugged into the "G" and "9V" next to "C1"
Thanks in advance for your time, whether it's to point me towards a video or if you just have an answer.
I'd use an external rc controlled switch (like the ones from MenaceRC) as they are easy to setup... Happy flying
I purchased one similar to this the h743 wlite and I put it in my 90mm viper jet. On my maiden flight about 30 seconds after take off I lost all controll and it death sprialed into a lake. I see in the fine print.
Current Senor: 220A, 3.3V ADC (Scale 150 in INAV, 66.7 A/V in ArduPilot)
Sense resistor: 90A continuous, 220A peak
Does this mean my esc draw can not be over 90A continous? Because this jett runs at around 110- 120amps at full throttle.
I am wondering if this was my faital error as I think the FC failed. I was running the gps, crossfire and had failsafe set to RTH. RTH did not activate so I am assuming the FC failed mid flight. Everything worked perfect on the bench. When i pulled it out of the water a bunch of stuff was burnt up on the FC but that could have been when it was in the water...
Very possible that the excessive current on launch was too much. The higher values are usually only supported for a very shott time... Best of luck
I am going to buy this flight controller. But I see in aliexpres MATEK H743-WING V2. There is any difference with this v2?
I've not looked at the V2. I cannot see anything obvious on the Matek website too. I'd guess a chip change as that has happened to a few of the Matek models recently due to the chip shortages.. Best of luck!
Hi im kinda new to the rc hobbyist world and i was wondering if the H743 could do waypoint missions and transmit telemetry back via a 3dr radio?
It could but you're starting at the 'harder' end of the hobby for someone who is new. Check out my PixHawk 2020 series and let me know if you have any questions.. Best of luck!
@@Painless360thanks!
@@Painless360 Also, could you tell me where to solder the 3DR Radio module onto the Matek?
My question is can this flight controller work with the Freewing 90mm F-22 raptor and how do I set it up oooo
Check out my INAV for beginners 2022 series... Best of luck!
can i use this for UAVs Drone light shows??
No idea, I don't know what software is used in those.. Best of luck
For some reason INAV 3.0.1 does not find the SD card for data logging. I get the error message "No dataflash chip found". I have the blackbox enabled and tried several SD cards formatted for FAT. I have several other models of Mateksys FCs but this is the only one that seems to have the problem. Does anyone have the same issue?
I'd check the problems in the wiki in case it is a problem on H7... Best of luck
i am returning in the hobby. i was out 4 years. i am used to cube black with here 2. i used it for fixwing flights long range. but the new cube orange is to expensive. Is this a reliable alternative that keeps the price lower? or do you say. keep with the cube?
regards
CUAV and HolyBro have good Pixhawk Cube alternatives. Modern Ardupilot a can also run on non Pixhawks too and they can be a lot cheaper... Happy flying
@@Painless360 so you dont recommend matek? You prefer cuav or holybro
Thats what I was referring to as non-pixhawks. See my series on installing ardupilot onto matek.... best of luck
Great video.
Does anyone know if it works with the DJI FPV Air Unit? HD video?
Yes. See my setups with the other boards in the family and the DJI FPV kit..
@@Painless360
Thank you.
I couldn't find clear information about it anywhere. But if you tell me it can be done, then I'm going to buy one to try it out.
Regards.
Google 'dji matek painless360' and you'll find it. Same setup regardless of FC..
Where can I buy? I can't find it for sale anywhere. I have a Finwing Airtitan build that is begging for this board. I have an F405 that I was gonna mount in it, but the remote USB and the can-bus, not to mention the H7 processor has me sold. My current survey/search and rescue long range FPV rig is a My Twin Dream running a F765 and 5 cameras, but I was sold on the Airtitan's 7+kg payload capacity.
This is VERY NEW. It'll be in the usual stockists soon... Happy flying
@@Painless360 You always seem to have a different line to spend hope or a smile ... and that lightning fast
thx
Waiting for the build install...
Me too - INAV 2.7 needed for what I want to do with it..
👍👍👍
does this come presoldered?
Not that I've seen... Happy flying
Thanks to your video clips I was persuaded to buy this. But seems this is out of sale everywhere on the world (except for shady AliExpress offers) ? What is going on ?
Due to the chip shortage, a lot of the flight controllers have been updated or retired. Check the Matek website to see if this was one affected.. Happy flying
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A lot of people are having issues with this board.
Have you played with it on the bench much? Mine won't stop going into failsafe as if it had RX loss.
If i just move the servos around for a ew minutes i'll get pauses and eventually a failsafe. Lots of people reporting the same
I've never had that here, how odd. Checking on the INAV github this has been reported and seems to be related to the use of ELRS (something I'm not using with mine here). Thanks for letting me know.
@@Painless360 try inav and let it sit on the bench for a few minutes. Fiddle with the pitch/roll and see if it happens. I bet it will, while disarmed.
No point. It has been reported to the developers already... I'd track the issue report if I were you so you can see when it is fixed. Just as likely to be an ELRS issue from what I have seen.. best of luck
hello Andrew
maybe you can explain to me the strange behavior of my matek F722 wing, mounted on an arwingpro with R-XSR and flashed with INAV 6.1.
1st behavior
autolaunch mode activated, armed, throttle stick activated, engine operating at half speed, launch carried out, launch detected, increase in speed, then return to initial speed, without possibility of increasing it, forced landing
2nd behavior, same conditions
armed, autolaunch deactivated by the sticks, unable to run the engine at full power, it accelerates, cuts, restarts at full speed, cuts etc....
after disconnecting and reconnecting the battery, the behavior becomes nominal again
latest info: 4s LiFePo4 A123 batteries
It sounds like the battery is struggling to provide the power you want or maybe something like the voltage is dropping too much. Those cells have a far lower voltage than the more conventional battery choices. Maybe it is the LVC on the ESC? I'd try it with a lipo battery to rule that out. Best of luck
@@Painless360 thanks ANdrew, i will check, but what is strange is that it works like a charm after having plugged and unplugged several times the battery, after this first episod of mal function.at the same time, the urgency is to find my 4s lifepo4 which went into orbit due to a very bad sticking of the wooden plate which secures the battery pack... I have to search 500 m² of vegetation to hope find it
Lee- could you do a video on trimming, why it needs to be done - does it need to be done, how you can do it (taranis) what the difference can be - ive seen some of your videos but they only skirt over the subject and i cannot find anyone doing a a decent trimming tutorial video :) btw your discount codes link in the comments under the video dont work bud
If you mean for fixed wing then have covered it already in a few videos but not as a seperate video czcams.com/video/OaKqAng-BVE/video.html is a good place to start but maybe it's worth a video ..Happy flying
Preview: czcams.com/video/qC1-glmYvhg/video.html :D
Would you consider doing a video on the TBS cloud updating the tango 2 and all the features? They do it on couch and it's straight forward but if you watch the comments and hours later FB there are a lot of questions still always. Just a thought since they just did a major firmware update.
A couple of videos coming on Crossfire basics and the cloud and multi bind setups. Stay tuned...
I want an onboard wifi for configuration that you can switch on and off cause a naked usb wifi chip out of a usb stick is less than 1 gramm and 1€.
Agreed. Would be nice to be able to connect to the board without the need for cables.
Be much quicker to connect with wifi to the board and configure that way
Maybe serial comm over bluetooth is easier and you may just connect bluetooth module to any of your FC... Check out MFD bluetooth module for it's Mini Crossbow AAT, it support connection via I2C connection.
Can this work with DJI?
Should do. Happy flying!
@@Painless360 ty! Might be a good video also?
Same as all the others on the channel. i.e. czcams.com/video/9ZmGUxCDiU0/video.html
A bit of a pity that this one does not have the graphical OSD.
Totally overkill but might get some of these just because i love the USB and buzzer on a cable!
Ever try installing a CAN matek digital air speed sensor to a H743 and set it up in Ardupilot ? I say goodluck lol
CANBus setup in Ardupilot isn't as easy as it should be. Series coming that shows a CANBus setup in Arduplane.. Stay tuned!
@@Painless360 Oh we need your genius ! Wink! The New 743 H V2 has a usb extender dongle with two JST plugs, UAVCAN and 12C plug. I tried the suspected easier rout last night and plugging Air S into 12C , getting it to function should be a joke to set up ! It supposed to be plug and play with the few advertised settings. More hair all over my desk again lol
CANBus setup is covered in the 2nd video in the VTOL series for a PixHawk but a lot of the stuff that needs to be turned on seems to be hidden away so it'll be worth a look...
I BOUGHT THIS BECAUSE I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN EXTREMELY IMPRESSED BY MATEK. I bought this model for my TALLON that has a 405 wing in it. I wanted the remote USB link and buzzer more than anything. I am hoping to do all preflight checks without removing the hatch before a flight. I always felt the vertical USB of the 405 was a mistake especially after dislodging mine. I am also hoping that the more powerful processor will aid in terrain follow missions. But having it in my hands, I am simply amazed that it is almost identical in size to the 405Wing with all the added features.
I also broke the vertical usb port on my f722 but they used a through hole connecter so I was able to replace it easily.
Still no INav?
Yep, use MATEKH743 target..
Lee, use this FC for a tail sitter, please.
Do you know of a foam wing thats 'ready to go' for that
? I've still not seen one...
Painless360
Here is one option. You can download the plans for free.
store.ftstem.com/ft-kraken-speed-build-kit/
Here is 2nd option, but it may require me begging other Lee to make you one.
www.crashtesthobby.com/hercules-66-videos.html
@@Painless360 Arkbird VTOL Airplane, 860mm Wingspan, I am building it with H732-WING.
All these FC's are becoming overkill .
We said that when the F3 boards came out and they can't run modern software... Happy flying
@@Painless360 Most pilots just want a rth maybe cruze and stablilization. They used to be stable . Nowadays its getting difficult to get things to work . INAV and matek are a nightmare sometimes .Maybe I'M an old fart stuck in his ways .
Time to sell my eagle tree vector
Now show me which plane need so many outputs? :)
VTOL ;)?
Something like a RMRC Anaconda with vtail, flaps, ailerons, Camera, gimbal, lighting, and other sensors for surveying, etc.... www.readymaderc.com/products/details/rmrc-anaconda-kit :)