Ride1Up LMT'D V2 Review: Ride1Up's Torque Sensor Ebike Just Got Better!
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
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Join me, Ryan from Ebike Escape, as I review the Ride1Up LMT'D V2. This affordable torque sensor ebike is perfect for city riding, with highlights including its sturdy SR Suntour suspension fork and WTB Groove tires. Watch as we dive into the components, take it for a spin, and share my concluding thoughts along with pros and cons.
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00:00 Introduction
00:49 Why We Recommend the Ride1Up LMT'D V2?
01:15 Price and Assembly
02:10 Frame Design and Height Recommendations
03:11 Tall Riders and Comfort Recommendations
03:52 Brakes and Front Fork
05:02 Lights and Cockpit
05:54 Ride1Up Display Overview and Walkthrough
07:45 Battery Removal and Specs
09:17 Torque Sensor and Saddle
09:47 Motor and Drivetrain
11:27 Throttle Only Top Speed
12:00 Torque Sensor Riding
12:38 Pedal Assist Riding
16:46 Pedaling Top Speed
17:50 Riding Position
18:53 Ride1Up LMT'd V2 Should you buy it? - Auta a dopravní prostředky
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What do you think of the changes to the LMT'D V2? Would you pick this one over the V1?
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V1 is only available on the used market now
Finally, 2nd youtube review on this new update!
I’ve been using the AKM motor in my Lmtd V1 for over 1000 miles (purchased the AKM to replace the stock Bafang) to test it. Without doubt, it’s as quiet as a mid drive. Big difference compared to Bafang rear drive motors.
How is this bike compared to the Velotric Discover 2?
I'm wondering if the higher step-thru frame height actually made the bike feel stiffer. I'd love to see a video about ebike "wobble", which seems to be pretty common. I'm wondering if this is more common with the step-thru models.
Just received mine last week. I got the step through in charcoal satin. The assembly was not difficult. Really like the torque sensor over the cadence sensor.
I’m 82 years young and find the cadence sensor models suit the elderly better.
I agree for the amount of effort required to get to higher speeds.
However, there are two styles of power management with a cadence sensor. A cadence sensor acts as an on/off switch. With one style, each PAS level corresponds to a speed target, with an arbitrary power curve set to reach it, and assistance drops off once the target is reached. With the other, each level sends a specific amount of current (power) to the motor, regardless of your speed (up to maximum assisted speed cap).
The former can be dangerous when starting from a stop, especially with torquier motors and more powerful controllers. I was thrown off twice by such a bike as it sent between 900-1000W to the motor when starting from a stop, and often made wider turns than I wanted to. I was able to set the speed targets for the first two levels very low (4, 8mph) and it has only time to send a peak of between 400-500W before tapering off. It is my least favorite due to this nature.
The latter gives you more control and is less likely to make you lose control. It’s the style used by all Ride1Up cadence sensor bikes, and newer Lectric models.
Torque sensors give you the most control as the effort from the motor is in proportion to the effort of your legs, so you can more finely control the amount of assistance. The PAS levels set the ratio of effort. If you want to exert less effort, get one with a throttle, and ride with the higher PAS levels.
If you ride with a group, a torque sensor ebike is the easiest to match speeds with other riders and is the safest for riding close to other riders, or amongst pedestrians. I wouldn’t trust a cadence sensor ebike that uses the speed-setting style in those conditions.
Awesome bike, would love to own both versions. Congrats on another great review!
I like Ride1Up as a company.
You talk about the ST forks air vs coil. I've owned bikes with both versions of SunTour suspension forks. I think you are right in that a rider could go either way - but I will caveat that's only for riders under about 225 - 250 lbs. Heavier riders will be frustrated by the coils. (Keep in mind that today, the average North American male weighs 200 lbs.) Heavier riders will immediately use up all the preload and have less travel with a coil spring Suntour fork. Suntour's air spring shocks are very adjustable for rider weight. (Yes, you can try to get a bike shop to install the optional "hard" coil springs in a coil shock, but that's a hassle.) I have an e-bike with a SunTour XCR 32 air fork with over 15,000 miles and it still works great. So the air shocks are very durable too.
Thank you for that great explanation and hands on experience. As a heavier guy myself (this is JT), I have found myself riding on the high end of the lockout for many forks. Air Forks just offer so much more adjustment.
@@EbikeEscape I found the shocks in the V1 to be the weak point.
Very timely review for me. What are your thoughts comparing the ride1up v2 to the new Velotric discover 2? I've narrowed down to these two e-bikes. thanks!
This is the comparison I am looking for too. The Level.2 seems to be at the bottom of this group.
This bike cost me roughly $1600.
Now I'm curious:
Now that R1U offers a torque sensor equipped model,
what would buying a $3,000+ ebike get you that this much cheaper bike doesn't already offer?
On Level 1, you can get the same exact exercise experience as a regular bike.
On Level 5, the speed you can attain is terrifying.
Every new customer will be a customer for life.
Unless Ride1Up gets bought out by a larger company, it is destined to be one of the most successful ebike companies around.
*Can you see the display when wearing sunglasses?*
to bad they raised the price while fitting a cheaper fork
I have the V1. I paid $1795. V2 is now at $1495 on their website.
Does the display show how many watts your using?
Yes
What is better? Front motor driven or back wheel driven?
If you power only one, rear is better for acceleration, climbing hills and easier-to-manage handling.
If you power just the front, learn how it handles at a lower power level before you max it out.
If you power both, you can still spin the front, possibly losing control if the front wheel spins out from under you. Some models let you start with just the rear then activate the front after you’ve started rolling. They’re great for riding through loose sand though, and if you fall, it doesn’t hurt much.
The Lectric Express is a much better bike and deal.
For $1.299. with two batteries
It is a better value, but you may find, as I did with my XPedition, you will have to fix or tolerate a few things, especially with some of their accessories. There were two dangerous manufacturing issues - the brake calipers didn’t line up with the rotors and can kick out the pads while braking, and the double kickstand can loosen and fall off due to being installed with a flat washer and a split-ring lock washer, negating the lock washer’s function. I had to grind down the spacers for the calipers and replace the kickstand washers with a wedge-lock washer. The front battery mount and bottle cage bosses are also quite noticeably off-center. The footboards are also quite cheaply and shoddily made. I had to grind the frame mounts to allow them to click into place. The footboards also didn’t support their large panniers, so I added 1in spacers to them.
Hopefully, they’ve improved their quality, but don’t be surprised if you find similar issues. I still like my XPedition as it does what I intended it to do, but it definitely had a couple of major and some minor but annoying issues.
The XPress frame looks similar to the XPeak’s, so it may have the same “death wobble” due to too little trail. If you experience it, it can be controlled by replacing the headset with a viscous dampening one, as some have done. Others have minimized it by not using a front rack and keeping the rear rack loaded with less than 20lbs of cargo, but that really reduces its utility. Hopefully they fix the geometry issues in future versions.
@@chow-chihuang4903 Thanks a lot for these comments. I'm likely looking for more stability, I don't want death wobble of any kind. Would the LMT'd V2 ST deliver this? It seems to currently be the best comparison and value to the XPress. I'm very much an amateur to all things bike, but even so comparing the geometry of the XPress and LMT'd I had some concerns, hence my search for more knowledge. I have to make the decision by today too, I'm out of time lol
It seems like a downgrade from the first Ride1Up LMT'd
I agree on the fork and derailleur, but this adds included fenders, lighting and a quieter motor with stronger helical gears, and it does list for about $300 less than the previous one.
I suppose you could spend that difference on an air fork - even the basic RST air fork that came on the original LMT’d feels nicer than a coil fork. I think the Altus derailleur works fine, though my LMT’d has the Alivio derailleur.
If you’re comparing step-thru models, the V2 frame looks much sturdier with that substantial gusset.