This cave kicked my ass. I went back for a rematch.

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  • čas přidán 13. 05. 2022
  • Last year, ‪@EliseFreshwaterBlizzard‬ took me to Peak Cavern, and it defeated me. I'm back for round two. ■ AD: Signup for your FREE trial to Wondrium here: ow.ly/jZ4T30siJKm ■ Elise's channel: / elisefreshwaterblizzard ■ / elisefreshwaterblizzard
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  • @tomscottplus
    @tomscottplus  Před 2 lety +4253

    Without wanting to spoil the ending: by popular request, there's a final shot of us leaving the cave, just so people don't feel like we got stuck in there this time...!

  • @EliseFreshwaterBlizzard
    @EliseFreshwaterBlizzard Před 2 lety +7789

    I just want to say that, even though I am a small channel, Tom Scott and team reviewed my documentaries + previous work and trusted me to take them through one of my favourite caves. I can't thank the team enough :) I had a fantastic time and quality of the video looks so amazing.
    For those Geologists- yes, I made a big mistake at 13:03 by saying 'carbide' instead of 'carbonate', I must have been thinking of carbide lamps! Simple slip of the tongue
    Also, if you were interested as to how the water is creating that Vados Trench at 14:30. The water is carrying debris and carbonic acid, which is why along with the weight, the trenches are formed slowly over time. I'm sure I'll get round to explaining all this in detail on my channel at some point! Thanks again, Tom ! :)

    • @stefevr
      @stefevr Před 2 lety +209

      You were fantastically professional and supportive! There should be more people like you in the world

    • @edmundblackaddercoc8522
      @edmundblackaddercoc8522 Před 2 lety +12

      Where in Derbyshire is this cave please?

    • @nairocamilo
      @nairocamilo Před 2 lety +115

      I have a question: is your surname really Freshwater-Blizzard? Cuz that's rad

    • @ragnkja
      @ragnkja Před 2 lety +27

      @@edmundblackaddercoc8522
      It’s called Devil’s Arse, so if you combine that with the county it’s in, you get a search term that will give you what you’re looking for.

    • @edmundblackaddercoc8522
      @edmundblackaddercoc8522 Před 2 lety +12

      @@ragnkja oh right, in Castleton. I didn't recognise it. Cheers.

  • @IzzyIkigai
    @IzzyIkigai Před 2 lety +4454

    "I've been sitting in an Icebath in this wet suit at home" PLEASE DON'T TELL ME YOU DIDN'T FILM THIS TOM.

    • @xremming
      @xremming Před 2 lety +447

      That would have been such perfect b-roll in this video.

    • @HereticB
      @HereticB Před 2 lety

      To be perfectly honest I would like to watch tom sitting in an Icebath in a wet suit and just chillin' maybe as a youtube short for this channel

    • @MegaLokopo
      @MegaLokopo Před 2 lety +112

      NO, please tell us you did film it for next weeks video.

    • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
      @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 Před 2 lety +111

      I imagine the only problem might be there'd be a bit too much cursing for this channel.

    • @jwalster9412
      @jwalster9412 Před 2 lety +58

      I just imagine him talking to the camera like he's going to freeze to death sitting in his bath at home.

  • @johnhaines4163
    @johnhaines4163 Před 2 lety +2738

    I thought the bit where Tom identified his mood as being the same as when he'd had accidents before showed a great deal of self-awareness and maturity. A lesson for everyone there.

    • @ragnkja
      @ragnkja Před 2 lety +105

      Yeah, I thought so too. Both identifying it and telling the others that it might be an issue and to keep him in check.

    • @jaewol359
      @jaewol359 Před 2 lety +209

      It’s like during the parkour episode where he’s feeling confident and the trainer tells him to not go for that last attempt.

    • @yargolocus4853
      @yargolocus4853 Před 2 lety +134

      @@jaewol359 definitely an injury opportunity. I heard the same from Adam Savage, about heavy machinery. The most likely time to get into an accident is when you have grown comfortable working with it (like lathe related hand injury)

    • @adamplace1414
      @adamplace1414 Před 2 lety +34

      I'm not easily impressed by self awareness (I think it should be a given, which we can then all keep quiet about) but even I found that to be really sharp by Tom.

    • @kkkender
      @kkkender Před 2 lety +38

      @@adamplace1414 what a wonderful world it'd be if self-awareness was a given

  • @sundhaug92
    @sundhaug92 Před 2 lety +1878

    I feel like Elise is the kind of person you'd want if you ever needed to be rescued

    • @pvic6959
      @pvic6959 Před 2 lety +90

      shes SO DAMN supportive and empathetic :'))) makes me want to be her friend so bad haha. she sounds great

    • @BlissBatch
      @BlissBatch Před 2 lety +24

      I feel like she's also the kind of person you'd want if you ever needed a cuddle

    • @LHyoutube
      @LHyoutube Před rokem +7

      @@BlissBatch - Or more! 😉

    • @__-bk6mm
      @__-bk6mm Před rokem +1

      Oh 100%

    • @zerglinglover2303
      @zerglinglover2303 Před rokem +10

      @@LHyoutube weirdo

  • @ailaG
    @ailaG Před 2 lety +830

    Tom: gets beaten by a cave.
    Also Tom: relentlessly parkours, welds, flies blind and does all sorts of other things to practice.
    Buff Tom: Hello, cave. Have I told you how I got this scar on my face?

  • @ln5321
    @ln5321 Před 2 lety +672

    Freshwater-Blizzard is one of the coolest last names I've seen in a long time.

    • @greensteve9307
      @greensteve9307 Před 2 lety +7

      IKR?

    • @John_Jim
      @John_Jim Před 2 lety +5

      I usually dislike those new age type of names, but this one I actually like. Maybe it's the combination of the two.

    • @pixelmaster98
      @pixelmaster98 Před 2 lety +6

      I see what you did there

    • @weakw1ll
      @weakw1ll Před 2 lety

      I habe a hard time trying

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 Před rokem +33

      Freshwater-Blizzard sounds like a disgraced merger of two disgraced videogame companies.

  • @MeTalkPrettyOneDay
    @MeTalkPrettyOneDay Před 2 lety +88

    This is an excellent example of how to go into a potentially panic-attack inducing situation. Bring tools that make it easier (wetsuit), build up to the situation (ice baths), have someone there to ground you (Elise), regularly communicate your status and needs (Tom making requests and constantly updating the camera), and don't rush (Tom getting too excited and stopping himself).

  • @tomcardale5596
    @tomcardale5596 Před 2 lety +479

    Excellent subtitles!
    "Laughs triumphantly"
    "(grunts)"
    "(groans)"
    "(crew chuckles)"
    "(cackles)"

    • @jaewol359
      @jaewol359 Před 2 lety +35

      “(Meaty whack)(both chuckle)” vibes

    • @b33thr33kay
      @b33thr33kay Před 2 lety +23

      Tom's subtitles are the best I have ever seen on CZcams.

    • @aim-to-misbehave5674
      @aim-to-misbehave5674 Před 2 lety +10

      The subtitles on the 'learning to ride a bike' TS+ video are also just comedy gold - and adds something to the experience for a hearing viewer like me while also perfectly capturing the vibes of the video for a deaf viewer

    • @nelsonnicholson6175
      @nelsonnicholson6175 Před 2 lety +8

      I really want to know how they get colour and italics and stuff like that. I've tried researching how to get those things before, but no luck.

    • @timothymclean
      @timothymclean Před 2 lety +4

      (laughs) (water splashes)

  • @joelrundle9919
    @joelrundle9919 Před 2 lety +672

    I admire you so much for two things Tom. Being able to say you needed to leave last time, and coming back and beating this cave! Love it.

    • @vieffan
      @vieffan Před 2 lety +8

      This so much. I was impressed last time. But this time even more. Props to Tom for even trying

  • @CreamAle
    @CreamAle Před 2 lety +835

    Tom really is just a big ol child. Him explaining his scar gathering process was adorable.
    What a treasure of a person.

    • @i_e_she
      @i_e_she Před 2 lety +3

      Truly :')

    • @renyhp
      @renyhp Před 2 lety +38

      am I the only one who has never noticed the scar he's talking about? I can't even see it

    • @boxmeister3059
      @boxmeister3059 Před 2 lety +24

      I do think a lot of it was definitely anxiety talking, and as an anxiety talker I can relate, but it was fun to listen to nonetheless :))

    • @theboxygenie
      @theboxygenie Před 2 lety +8

      @@renyhp Look for the video about the mechanical playground (~2015/6). There's a Park Bench about it too, I believe.

    • @chaseharms3624
      @chaseharms3624 Před rokem

      Co is fl

  • @MAlanThomasII
    @MAlanThomasII Před 2 lety +113

    Where I've lived in the U.S. you learn that wet caves are a flash-flood hazard and not to go in them. That's not really 100% true, but casual amateurs who don't know what they're doing can and do get killed, so it's a warning the general public should observe. The commenters are presumably familiar with those warnings.
    Many wet caves around here, if there's good monitoring and you have an accurate weather forecast, are perfectly safe under the right conditions. Some of the ones that kill people can have as little as 10-15 minutes warning before the exit route is submerged in flowing water, which is enough time to escape if you're calm and fast, but they should absolutely not be entered by inexperienced spelunkers.

  • @Finkelfunk
    @Finkelfunk Před 2 lety +91

    Now I have an image in my head of Tom Scott sitting in this suit in his ice water bathtub while blasting the training music from Rocky on full volume

  • @apaleslimghost
    @apaleslimghost Před 2 lety +34

    "We're coming up to something called 'Surprise View' now"
    "Oh, hello Pete!"
    was... was Pete the view

  • @Opus313
    @Opus313 Před 2 lety +55

    "...also, my brain started to shut down."
    I don't need a cave for that!

  • @katherinegaymes
    @katherinegaymes Před 2 lety +650

    Tom, here is a brief explanation for why Americans dont like wet caves (at least in my experience of a few of our caves from over here). This video seemed a lot "safer" than many of the caves in the states. Mud and rivers are "easier" to navigate without something catastrophic happening because they tend to just cause you to fall nearby. Also, you had a direct walking path surrounded by walls. American caves tend to have just enough water to be slippery, and they tend to be steeper to navigate with much more serious risk factors, such as underground cliffs over a drop that will definitely cause a nasty fall. Also, for some reason i cant figure out, we treat these as tourist spots where you are expected to walk around in casual clothes (so you had better hope your shoes have good grip). Proper safety equipment, a small group with a knowledgeable guide, and a clear walking path make your video look a lot more fun than my previous experiences.

    • @ashmaybe9634
      @ashmaybe9634 Před 2 lety +43

      Maybe, there are plenty of really gnarly caves in the UK though. With slippery rock and steep falls etc.

    • @katherinegaymes
      @katherinegaymes Před 2 lety +19

      @@ashmaybe9634 for those gnarly caves, do yall wear safety equipment or just a t-shirt and shorts?

    • @SharienGaming
      @SharienGaming Před 2 lety +78

      @@katherinegaymes not sure how its in the UK specifically, but as far as i am aware, here in germany you arent even allowed to enter those caves without safety equipment and depending on the cave, an appropriate level of experience - from what i recall from my childhood when visiting fairly safe tourist-y caves, even there everyone had to wear helmets at the very least...
      so i would expect that people going into these kinds of caves in the UK go in with proper gear

    • @nairocamilo
      @nairocamilo Před 2 lety +6

      @@katherinegaymes Good question, I think that's what makes or breaks the accident statistics

    • @ragnkja
      @ragnkja Před 2 lety +11

      This one is a tourist attraction, and as you can see, they’re outfitted appropriately for the cave they’re exploring.

  • @armaanmonnink6790
    @armaanmonnink6790 Před 2 lety +537

    Hi Tom, I have an idea for a new Tom Scott Plus video: mountain biking! I want to see if you kept practicing after the initial video, we want to see that learning curve! You could maybe start by going over small hills on a parkour to practice the techniques and than try a final big jump! Love your vids, groetjes uit Nederland🇳🇱.

    • @sby60118
      @sby60118 Před 2 lety +4

      Great idea!

    • @simonholmqvist8017
      @simonholmqvist8017 Před 2 lety +5

      Yes, mountainbiking would be fun!

    • @evgeniipavlov5440
      @evgeniipavlov5440 Před 2 lety +23

      Your last sentence made me chortle. Despite the Dutchs' propensity for bikes, mountain biking (or mountain anything) is the last thing I would associate with The Netherlands. Vaalserberg is the sole "highest mountain" in any country for which I've managed to reach the summit (amusingly by bicycle).

    • @kop-gaming6413
      @kop-gaming6413 Před 2 lety +5

      Or try to enter the driving against the wind thing in the Netherlands which already has a video on the regular tom Scott channel

    • @AalbertTorsius
      @AalbertTorsius Před 2 lety +5

      There's a cave in The Netherlands you can ride a bike in.

  • @fakjbf3129
    @fakjbf3129 Před 2 lety +68

    8:36 I think it's really impressive that you have enough self-awareness to be able to recognize that mood and make sure that other people are keeping you in check. In any kind of dangerous sport it is far too easy to get complacent and impatient, and that's how people get injured. Knowing when to stop and take a step back and reassess a situation is one of the most important skills for these kinds of hobbies.

  • @CerealKiIIer
    @CerealKiIIer Před 2 lety +89

    Thank you for having such great subtitles. It shows you care a lot. Always at the best place on the screen when needed. Color coded by speaker. Made by human instead of the auto function by youtube. Thanks!

    • @gakuyax
      @gakuyax Před 2 lety +8

      I think he said once that subtitles is a right, not a privilege.

  • @alex0589
    @alex0589 Před 2 lety +163

    My respect for Tom just went way up.
    Going back isnt easy when you have a bad experience. Exposure therapy does wonders.

  •  Před 2 lety +377

    I remember caving in southern france during the nineties. we entered a part that looked like a ~50m deep triangular rift, from the top and crept along it's upper edge, when a friend of mine suddenly lost grip and fell... about 5m to smash to the,until then perfectly invisible plane of perfectly clear, perfectly still and surprisingly cold water... still far better than dropping another 45m, or so.

    • @shibasurfing
      @shibasurfing Před 2 lety

      Yep, you did that and we're here watching a dude having 0.1% of your balls

    • @LethalLuggage
      @LethalLuggage Před 2 lety +66

      Jesus even reading that gives me chills.

    • @Carebearritual
      @Carebearritual Před 2 lety +21

      yeah this is making me stiffen up that’s terrifying. but amazing movie material

    • @nairocamilo
      @nairocamilo Před 2 lety +15

      I can see the scene like one of those accident-retelling movies from the 90's

    •  Před 2 lety +61

      well, we knew there shouldn't be a drop, since we had seen the map and had brought ropes otherwise.... but the optical illusion was so perfect, that we didn't realize, it was the 'tricky passage along the lake' part, we where facing, until Stephan dropped in.

  • @JordanBeagle
    @JordanBeagle Před rokem +19

    5:40 I love how friendly and accommodating Ellise is

  • @sby60118
    @sby60118 Před 2 lety +46

    Tom Scott went caving Episode II : revenge of the Tom

    • @gold-star
      @gold-star Před 2 lety

      👏👏👏👏

    • @sby60118
      @sby60118 Před 2 lety +4

      @@gold-star it’s too late Cave! I have the low ground!
      You underestimate my POWER!!

    • @hungrymusicwolf
      @hungrymusicwolf Před 2 lety

      Let's see who gets out underneath this time cave!
      (ahead)

  • @bernicechong5323
    @bernicechong5323 Před 2 lety +332

    haha tom going ahead and using tech to defeat the cave is like getting the cheat codes to beat the difficult part of a game (but also good on you for going back at all! I wish I had that kind of persistence to go at something again after failure)

    • @landsgevaer
      @landsgevaer Před 2 lety +16

      Aren't they *all* using tech?
      Wouldn't go there without a flashlight of some sort.

    • @lorenzmaut3708
      @lorenzmaut3708 Před 2 lety +12

      Well it's more like using cheats in a horror game to advance in the game, like maybe removing a certain enemy or replacing it with something less threatening, like some people in Subnautica installed mods to remove some spiders creatures that were useless but you had to pass trough an are to reach the end of the story

    • @yargolocus4853
      @yargolocus4853 Před 2 lety +33

      I'd more so call this a completely fair training and preparation montage. He did his research, got required items and even sat in an ice bath to prep himself in wetsuit.

    • @sharpfang
      @sharpfang Před 2 lety +19

      Not cheat codes. Just exploring easier areas to get better gear and level up your endurance.

    • @pietroalessandrini
      @pietroalessandrini Před 2 lety +10

      I feel it's more like using all thise potions you were saving for "later" and realize the boss is much easier with those

  • @narnigrin
    @narnigrin Před 2 lety +4

    "I'll never not be more ready than this"
    So ... you'll always be more ready than this. Got it.

  • @hungrymusicwolf
    @hungrymusicwolf Před 2 lety +70

    I actually feel proud of Tom, which is weird because he is much older and more accomplished than I am, but, man, this is just something that requires you to be brave and I feel proud.

  • @ArtichokeHunter
    @ArtichokeHunter Před 2 lety +392

    As an American who is not a caver but enjoys going into caves, I'm curious about the Americans being shocked by wet caves for non-cavers? I guess maybe I haven't been to wet caves actually in the US, but there are some very popular and frequently-touristed wet caves I've been to and loved, like ATM in Belize and Waitomo Caves in New Zealand, and it's not like they're "easy" but they're definitely done and safely doable for tourists.

    • @theirishninja2070
      @theirishninja2070 Před 2 lety +110

      I am also not a caver, but I think its because a lot of caves can quickly fill up with water if you aren't careful. Being in a tight space quickly filling with water is a definitely an easy way to die.

    • @brandonfrancey5592
      @brandonfrancey5592 Před 2 lety +106

      I believe the issue is flash floods. There are many areas where with little warning the water can rise fast and suddenly cutting off exits and can occur on the clearest and sunniest of days.

    • @TrondBrgeKrokli
      @TrondBrgeKrokli Před 2 lety +65

      One of my theories is that in mainland America, because it is bigger in general, nature seems to provide a lot more treacherous environments in wet caves on average, making it harder to predict when something wrong is about to happen. On the other hand, the cave visited in this video is a safe and well documented one. Europe does have its fair share of dangerous caves too, but often on a smaller scale than those you find on bigger continents. (There are some big ones underneath most central mountain ranges in mainland Europe, but I don't think Europe would win on risk factor or total size of the cave system.)

    • @rek8193
      @rek8193 Před 2 lety +91

      For someone that only knows dry(er) caves, that much water in a cave instantly makes me think of rising or falling water levels. Imagine a random point in this video where over the course of 5 or less minutes the water had suddenly risen a meter. You could be trapped underground for who knows how long or simply die on the spot. If it's rain that leads to the water rising, you may not even know it's raining until it's too late.
      The most famous recent example is probably the football team in Thailand in 2018, when their cave flooded after a rainfall, they were trapped for two weeks while people from all over the world came together to rescue them.

    • @TrondBrgeKrokli
      @TrondBrgeKrokli Před 2 lety +8

      @@rek8193 Fair point. I had almost forgotten about that event, but yes, wherever you get tropical rainfall, there is a higher risk when entering any wet cave system susceptible to changes in water table or local precipitation drainage.

  • @elijahh2220
    @elijahh2220 Před 2 lety +83

    Ah man, this is so wholesome. Tom's clearly overjoyed to be successfully doing this, and Elise seems just as happy that he's come back and conquered it.

    • @Zogerpogger
      @Zogerpogger Před 2 lety +3

      Elise seems like a wonderful human

  • @JimOHalloran
    @JimOHalloran Před 2 lety +23

    If the purpose of this channel is to answer the question "Is there anything Tom Scott can't do?", then until now the answer was "Caving". After this video, I don't think we know the answer. Good stuff! I never thought we'd see Tom go back to the cave.

  • @gooball2005
    @gooball2005 Před 2 lety +51

    I love how Tom overcomes himself like this without regard for how others might judge him. Some people try to hide their flaws and put on a facade, and other people like Tom embrace their mishaps and work to improve.

  • @twojuiceman
    @twojuiceman Před 2 lety +22

    American non-caver here. When I was in the boy scouts we booked a special off-the-regular-tourist-route guided tour of Longhorn Cavern in Texas, and it was very wet. They fitted us with helmets and knee pads and whatnot, and the water was maybe waist deep in some parts.
    It's a state park, though, so they had checked all the water levels beforehand and they knew it was safe. I certainly wouldn't venture into a wet cave without a guide

  • @jack8465
    @jack8465 Před 2 lety +16

    It seems like Tom's preoccupation with anxiety over the cold water exposure took over any anxiety about wading through a cave half submerged in water. That would absolutely terrify me. Congrats Tom, it's incredible watching you push yourself out of your comfort zones, all with a big smile on your face.

  • @sophiemay3421
    @sophiemay3421 Před 2 lety +41

    In a weird, parasocial way, I'm really proud of Tom for this.

  • @PaganSamurai
    @PaganSamurai Před 2 lety +17

    I love how supportive Elise is. She's absolutely delightful to watch in videos, and seems like genuinely a wonderful person.

  • @Dra9ontail2
    @Dra9ontail2 Před 2 lety +35

    You are incredibly brave for returning to a wet, freezing cave after your first experience with it. Also training at home with ice baths?! The dedication is real, and it paid off! I am proud of you, Tom!

  • @RJFerret
    @RJFerret Před 2 lety +123

    As someone who has caved in various parts of the US (mostly Eastern, some Western), we have more caves that are "dead"/dry and/or have dry sections. A wet suit is not typical gear for caving here. Multiple light sources, clothing for 50° temps which can get muddy, appropriate footwear, gloves if desired... There's a cave in the SE half "living"/wet and the other half dry/dead as the water flow changed such that one side is still "growing" while the other is completely dry.
    So wet mud is expected, but little standing water. I caved for years until I got my feet wet. Plenty of crawling through.
    There are three other categories of caves which are different experiences, that many US cavers don't do, "wading" which correlates to what you did; diving underwater, which is a whole other very deadly thing; and vertical caves, which require ropework, abseiling and ascending.

    • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
      @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 Před 2 lety +4

      So it's mostly just because of geology? Like, are British caves naturally wetter?

    • @IanNewborn
      @IanNewborn Před 2 lety +13

      @@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 I was talking to some geologists about Limestone aquifers recently. The UK ones are much deeper, the US ones are over a wider area. Perhaps that has something to do with it.

    • @allanp5
      @allanp5 Před 2 lety +7

      Tom and Elise were caving in Derbyshire where there is a real mixture of caves. Some, such as this one are 'active', others are fossil systems and dry. There are also a range of old mines, mainly from the 1700s and 1800s, although some are much older. Sometimes a mine will drain water from a cave system leaving it dry. Ducks (partially flooded passages but with some room to breathe) and sumps (flooded passages) sometimes free-divable are not uncommon in the UK. They are perhaps a little less common in Derbyshire though
      Many UK cavers will have wetsuits for wetter caves but probably wouldn't use them on a trip like this.

    • @brushnit9212
      @brushnit9212 Před rokem +2

      @@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 And how much. More area in America, more caves, and therefor a higher total of dry caves, wet caves, massive caves, and easily/very difficult to navigate caves.
      Also America has more mountain ranges and varied topography, possibly lending to more dry caves. So many variables

    • @Tuzszo
      @Tuzszo Před rokem +2

      @@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 Great Britain as a whole is naturally much wetter than the average for the U.S. Additionally, most of the really well-known caves in the U.S are in very dry inland regions like Colorado, Utah, New Mexico, etc.

  • @iatenailsforbreakfast8209

    Elise seems so sweet and genuinely excited to show people these things

  • @yangto996
    @yangto996 Před 2 lety +58

    So happy to see Elise back on the channel!! You guys have great interactions

  • @mamf6175
    @mamf6175 Před 2 lety +14

    Tom shows up again. This time in full gear.
    The cave: Why do I hear boss music?

  • @katbairwell
    @katbairwell Před 2 lety +84

    Tom, you are such a brave soul to go back and have another go, it seems a weird thing to say to someone I've never met, but I'm so proud of you!

  • @Uhlbelk
    @Uhlbelk Před 2 lety +8

    I remember spelunking as a child in a cave that you had to crawl on your belly to get through, without all the fancy gear and lights. Sometimes I'm amazed I am still alive.

  • @JouvaMoufette
    @JouvaMoufette Před 2 lety +16

    I like that Tom is way way more happy this time. The little bit of prep that he did went a long way.

  • @sheilaross1449
    @sheilaross1449 Před 2 lety +29

    Last summer, my partner tried to hike the Superior Coastal Trail. A couple of days in, she slipped in mud, fell hard, and had to be carried out on a back board (for over an hour on uneven terrain). She seemed to have familiar feelings about it to what you expressed in the previous caving video.
    I'm pleased for you that your second attempt went so much better. I'm hoping she'll have similar success when she tries again in September.

    • @slook7094
      @slook7094 Před 2 lety

      And that's why American cavers don't like wet caves for amateurs.

    • @MrDpinon6
      @MrDpinon6 Před rokem

      @@slook7094 7uh

  • @reverberer
    @reverberer Před 2 lety +49

    Good on ya Tom for not letting it beat ya. Having been in the same sort of position I'm glad I went back in.

  • @justmerc1642
    @justmerc1642 Před 2 lety +7

    Alternative title: Red Shirt Redemption

  • @SyntheticFuture
    @SyntheticFuture Před 2 lety +9

    I like the idea of someone going "you know what would be brilliant? If we could have a ladder here!"amd then people hauled a ladder all the way to that point 😂 That must have been a real challenge.

  • @kiranalexander8846
    @kiranalexander8846 Před 2 lety +38

    I love that you've pushed yourself to go back and do this again, and it's amazing to see how supportive Elise is. Also - very good shout on the wetsuit!

    • @kiranalexander8846
      @kiranalexander8846 Před 2 lety +4

      This is what my scout leader would have called a 'dry' cave, we had a joke that if he said it was wet, it meant we had to actually swim 😅

  • @MichaelBerthelsen
    @MichaelBerthelsen Před 2 lety +2

    "AAAAWWWWHHH, RIGHT down my back!"
    'Burt Bacharach, back, crack, and sack'-memories come flooding back...😅

  • @evgeniipavlov5440
    @evgeniipavlov5440 Před 2 lety +86

    A tad off-topic, but are the multi-colored captions something done by the producers or is it a new smart YT feature? Either way, it's great and really helpful.

    • @floobdedoop2892
      @floobdedoop2892 Před 2 lety +85

      Tom specifically goes out of the way to provide them. He's got a long twitter post about it, if I remember right.

    • @klabence
      @klabence Před 2 lety +33

      You could do colored captions in CZcams in a long way, but it's quite a hidden feature, so only music videos esp. from the Japanese use them, or third-party caption creators like Tom hires.

    • @adamsbja
      @adamsbja Před 2 lety +20

      Ever since I saw subtitles on the BBC that used them it's become my mental gold standard. Such a useful feature.

    • @h-Films
      @h-Films Před 2 lety +4

      it's been on yt for a while. but not natively supported and you have to upload a custom file

    • @rolfs2165
      @rolfs2165 Před 2 lety +2

      @@klabence At least back when community captions were still a thing, CZcams's own editor couldn't do colours or any other formatting.

  • @hugoiwata
    @hugoiwata Před 2 lety +2

    Freshwater-Blizzard is officially the best surname I've ever seen

  • @thejoker5958
    @thejoker5958 Před rokem +5

    Watching Tom conquer his fears and get through difficult situations is legitimately inspiring.

  • @punklejunk
    @punklejunk Před rokem +3

    Round of applause for Elise, being the exact patient and brilliant guide Tom needed in such circumstance. You were very reassuring, encouraging. And even when you weren't certain what was going on with Tom, you displayed tact and leadership to talk him down in just the right way. He had a great time in the end.

  • @andreassundby7497
    @andreassundby7497 Před 2 lety +2

    i am really happy for this video. don't wanne be cringy but it fealt really good, and made me really happy.

  • @evanrigel954
    @evanrigel954 Před 2 lety +33

    i'm claustrophobic and physically disabled, so stuff like this terrifies me, but good on you tom for facing it a second time

  • @MusikCassette
    @MusikCassette Před 2 lety +4

    Respect for the attempt in the first place.
    Extra respect for breaking up, when you did not feel save.
    Extra respect for coming back after what you went through last time.
    No extra respect, for going through this time, but glad for you it worked out.

  • @GuyWithAnAmazingHat
    @GuyWithAnAmazingHat Před 2 lety +184

    On the topic of wet caves, there was a scene in Moon Knight involving a wet cave, it took me a while to understand what happened after the scene, I guess Americans really do care about wet caves a lot more.

    • @Natibe_
      @Natibe_ Před 2 lety +83

      Wet caves especially in the western US have a tendency to flood quickly and in ways that are hard to predict. On the east coast (and, I assume, in Britain) wet caves are a lot more predictable. For example, I’ve been to an underwater river in Tennessee, the river cuts down through the rock and there’s even a shoreline within the cave! But it was perfectly safe because the flooding in the area is much less unpredictable. My guess is that the stigma against wet caves has a lot to do with Hollywood making the media in this country and them being worse over there.

    • @Its-Just-Zip
      @Its-Just-Zip Před 2 lety +26

      @@Natibe_ eastern US caves can be a bit more like this. But yeh, America's geology is a bit more conducive to rapid flooding in caves.

    • @skylar7320
      @skylar7320 Před 2 lety +28

      @Natibe_ I think you’ve got something there. Living in the western US, caves can flood incredibly fast and at huge distances from the storefront is how I was taught. Very similar to our flash floods out here which can travel somewhere in the tens of miles ahead of a storm over previously dry riverbed and under a perfectly clear sky.

    • @MobiusPeverell
      @MobiusPeverell Před 2 lety +5

      @@Natibe_ I think you're right about it being an East/West thing. I was certainly never warned about it growing up in Pennsylvania - though most of our caves were more of shallow depressions in the rock than proper caves anyway.

    • @adamsbja
      @adamsbja Před 2 lety +8

      @@skylar7320 I've had arroyo safety drilled into me so much I never thought about the influence on caves but yeah, I think you're right. In the Southwest we're taught to be wary of anywhere that looks like water's flowed there recently, particularly during monsoon season.

  • @kylem9476
    @kylem9476 Před 2 lety +40

    As a fellow underground explorer, I applaud your determination to go back under.

  • @phyphor
    @phyphor Před 2 lety +6

    I was amazed by your ability to keep talking about your feelings last time.
    I am even more amazed by your ability to go back and face something that defeated you before, especially when it did do so in such a brutal way.
    And then to have you recognise that your mood can lead you to doing things fast and dangerous so asking to be checked is another great example of how to be.

  • @kamackmac
    @kamackmac Před 2 lety +2

    Wow I haven't wanted to purchase from an ad-read in a long while. But when you said that you've looked at your viewer statistics, and a lot of us like long video essays/documentaries, I was like, "WAIT A SEC, THAT'S ME." I watch so many long videos that my *therapist* and I get distracted with me talking about the random things I know. Jack of all trades, master of none. When money isn't so tight, I may just have to give Wondrium a shot. Might take a year, but I'll get there I hope.

  • @PontusWelin
    @PontusWelin Před 2 lety +5

    Good job Tom!
    I think that feeling of this type of compliments being patronizing is worth talking about. It’s probably based on personal insecurities and false assumptions of others expectations on you. But what you did is so strong! It’s not easy to face your fears! You should be proud!

  • @ABH-82
    @ABH-82 Před 2 lety +18

    Freshwater-Blizzard is easily one of the best surnames in the world

  • @damionlee7658
    @damionlee7658 Před 2 lety +5

    I'm totally made up for Tom going back and getting to see the chamber this time. Huge props to Elise, both accomplished and very informative & entertaining.

  • @vish7963
    @vish7963 Před 2 lety +24

    man the person who writes subtitles on your videos needs a pay raise!!

  • @vega0727
    @vega0727 Před 2 lety +9

    Major respect for even attempting again after such a tramatic previous experience.

  • @SMTRodent
    @SMTRodent Před 2 lety +9

    I absolutely noped out of the last video before Tom got far at all. It's cool to have another go at seeing the cave.l

  • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721

    This video is one of those things where I didn't realize how much I wanted it until I saw it. I'm so happy to see some closure. This channel practically has an entire plot, now.

  • @joshtheowl3590
    @joshtheowl3590 Před 2 lety +8

    Tom has a copy
    Cave has a copy
    Cave has a Tom
    Tom has a cave

  • @shannonb6552
    @shannonb6552 Před 2 lety +4

    Thank you, Tom, for the excellent captions you and your team provide! Really sets the standard for CZcams captions.

  • @amanda-we9fv
    @amanda-we9fv Před 2 lety +9

    Elise is so professional and caring, wow!

  • @ktang001
    @ktang001 Před 2 lety +3

    I'm alright with dry caves, not sure about wet caves. I guess I will have to experience it for myself to find out how I cope with it. And Elise is the kind of person I would trust to guide me through it!

  • @BoogerDad
    @BoogerDad Před 2 lety +5

    Elise being an absolute gem. I'd go see it, just to meet her

  • @anto687
    @anto687 Před 2 lety +3

    Glad to see you back, and also need to thank you for introducing me to Elise’s channel in your first visit. I really really enjoy her content and am proud to be a supporter on Patreon.

  • @Zelmel
    @Zelmel Před 2 lety +7

    Good on you working on going back through and confronting a place/thing that gave you a panic attack previously! A big problem from panic attacks can be aversion to perceived triggers so doing this kind of prep and exposure can be really hard for many people.

  • @wohlhabendermanager
    @wohlhabendermanager Před 2 lety +2

    12:20 What's a boulder? Is it like a big rock?
    And to anyone who understood this reference: Over my shoulder. That's what I told ya.

  • @Blabla130
    @Blabla130 Před 2 lety +2

    The most exciting "Previously" since "Previously on Avatar"

  • @Buttersaemmel
    @Buttersaemmel Před 2 lety +3

    backing out of it not beeing able to complete the full way trough but still comming back to finally get trought with it...mad respect Tom!

  • @ThePokevader
    @ThePokevader Před 2 lety +7

    Unbelievable timing on this; I was thinking about this very video last night before bed and Im pumped to see the rematch

  • @kylr_1415
    @kylr_1415 Před rokem +2

    I knew I should have kept this video for when I was feeling sad. Whole mood improved by a 18 minute video. Tom never disappoints

  • @Dakiraun
    @Dakiraun Před 2 lety +2

    Yeah!! So glad you decided to have a go at it again. It looks like an amazing (and huge) cave to explore, and I'm glad you found a way to deal with the cold water that works for you. Ever since the last/first one, I've been watching Elise's channel, and she's SO good about caving, I don't think you could have hoped for a better person at your side. Well done - and glad you had fun!

  • @domsusefulstuff
    @domsusefulstuff Před 2 lety +2

    I've always appreciated your candidness during your adventures and it was great to see your honesty and openness about this experience. I often remember your resolve at difficult times and it helps me be braver. I'm glad you got to see the cave, well done!

  • @WryAun
    @WryAun Před 2 lety +3

    Good on ya mate! Takes real character to go back in and face a situation like that again. I'm impressed!
    Thanks as usual for the captions!

  • @nathanisip
    @nathanisip Před 2 lety +2

    Well done, Tom! Kudos for giving it a second chance. Peak Cavern is beautiful and it’s a delight to see the parts beyond the public tours.

  • @taylorhancock5834
    @taylorhancock5834 Před 2 lety +2

    I’m incredibly proud of you for training, going back in, and actually going through the cave! As someone with a lot of cave-related fears, this actually quelled quite a few of them, and I just have to give full props to everyone who took you through the cave. The words of encouragement and advice obviously made the trip a lot easier and I hope I have people like you if I ever decide to go caving myself!

  • @takinastabatit
    @takinastabatit Před 2 lety +7

    Okay, I was alright until you got to that last watery bit with "less headroom." Then I couldn't breathe. Good on you for going back! That vadose trench was so cool.

  • @Munden
    @Munden Před 2 lety +1

    Way to go Tom! I admire that you posted the first cave video, and now even more so that you went back to try it again, and succeed!

  • @OGSinisterPotato
    @OGSinisterPotato Před 2 lety +1

    All your videos are genuinely a pleasure to watch. Thanks for the content :)

  • @christinesizemore3
    @christinesizemore3 Před 2 lety +1

    I'm so happy for you that you were able to revisit and conquer a personal stumbling block. I'm also very impressed with how effectively you're able to introspect and see how you're feeling, intuit what effect it will have, and mitigate (or delegate) to stay safe and healthy!

  • @yazunhc
    @yazunhc Před rokem +4

    Tom is always so adorably giggly.

  • @cearaa1950
    @cearaa1950 Před 2 lety

    Glad to see you've gone back to the cave and had a great time!! This video was great to watch, and gave me real food for thought when you brought up that you often hurt yourself when you were excited. Makes me want to take a hard look at myself and see if I've got anything similar!

  • @ljphoenix4341
    @ljphoenix4341 Před 2 lety +2

    Bravo Tom, well done for going back and trying again!

  • @cuddlestsq2730
    @cuddlestsq2730 Před rokem

    Brilliant! Well done, Tom! I'm happy you could get through it this time.

  • @wolframstahl1263
    @wolframstahl1263 Před 2 lety +6

    Not sure if this is Tom being brave or stubborn. Either way, I'm once again impressed.

  • @stephenmacartney
    @stephenmacartney Před 2 lety +1

    Been subscribed to Elise's channel since your last collaboration and her content is great! So glad to see this update!

  • @TheAv0cado
    @TheAv0cado Před rokem +2

    Shoutout to the cameraman, who had to do this as well

  • @esverker7018
    @esverker7018 Před 2 lety +2

    Still so psyched to see Tom in the Peak District caves, so close to where my family lives inn Edale/Castleton! I grew up visiting these caves.

  • @Hmm...Whats-Their-Name
    @Hmm...Whats-Their-Name Před 2 lety +2

    Oh bud, I'm so proud of you for giving this a second go! So exciting to watch

  • @TommiSRP
    @TommiSRP Před 2 lety

    Thank you for going back! Im proud of you for setting a very good example for those who will watch the videos. You're a top notch lad Tom, glad I found your content!

  • @ajrobbins368
    @ajrobbins368 Před 2 lety +4

    You're an inspiration, Tom. Being honest with yourself and knowing your limits by cautiously testing them is very wise!

  • @XDeadzX
    @XDeadzX Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks for the amazing subtitle job on this video. So rare to see videos so complete and feature rich.

  • @jama211
    @jama211 Před 2 lety +2

    Well done, you may be a derp, but you're a good derp. On ya Tom.